I used the build, and approve. It is working great.
The build mesmer uses with a SS doesnt need SoD though, its nice to have but isnt required. I just kept hacking away with IW.
A few Problems i ran into is twice in a row my heal breeze got interrupted by attaxes. Dying nightmares spawn twice alot more making it impossible. And I cant figure out how to cast with grasping darknesses all around me, please explain.
Me/Mo UW Solo Build
MMSDome
Seaman_yemen
yay i hav enuf cash to buy FoW now thx for build XD
Avarre
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
I used the build, and approve. It is working great.
The build mesmer uses with a SS doesnt need SoD though, its nice to have but isnt required. I just kept hacking away with IW.
A few Problems i ran into is twice in a row my heal breeze got interrupted by attaxes. Dying nightmares spawn twice alot more making it impossible. And I cant figure out how to cast with grasping darknesses all around me, please explain. SoD lets you tank so much more. At 10 prot, you can take 3x what you could before, and interrupts are a much smaller problem. It makes things a good deal faster when you take smites 10+ at a time
When fighting graspings, they'll use their interrupt first. So pre-enchant and wait them out. I like to aggro the 2-3 aatxes on the left + the 7 graspings if I'm feeling lucky, with SoD you're fairly safe from interrupts, and there isn't even that risk once you get SV up. Cast prot/breeze, wait for graspings to arrive and watch their interrupts. When they're expended, use SoD, breeze, respirit, and SV... or however you prefer to order it
If there are two nms, immediately wand the first one and then interrupt the second. It's possible, otherwise just die and res from necro When soloing though, you'll have to get lucky with wand hits or run behind spirits to rebuff.
The build mesmer uses with a SS doesnt need SoD though, its nice to have but isnt required. I just kept hacking away with IW.
A few Problems i ran into is twice in a row my heal breeze got interrupted by attaxes. Dying nightmares spawn twice alot more making it impossible. And I cant figure out how to cast with grasping darknesses all around me, please explain. SoD lets you tank so much more. At 10 prot, you can take 3x what you could before, and interrupts are a much smaller problem. It makes things a good deal faster when you take smites 10+ at a time
When fighting graspings, they'll use their interrupt first. So pre-enchant and wait them out. I like to aggro the 2-3 aatxes on the left + the 7 graspings if I'm feeling lucky, with SoD you're fairly safe from interrupts, and there isn't even that risk once you get SV up. Cast prot/breeze, wait for graspings to arrive and watch their interrupts. When they're expended, use SoD, breeze, respirit, and SV... or however you prefer to order it
If there are two nms, immediately wand the first one and then interrupt the second. It's possible, otherwise just die and res from necro
When soloing though, you'll have to get lucky with wand hits or run behind spirits to rebuff.
Ention
Ok, Avarre, I've recently been expirementing with the SOJ adaptation for Trolls/Avicara, and I find myself struggling to get enough energy needed to keep the build running.
SOJ-15 energy
Mantra of resolve-15 energy
Prot Spirit-10 energy
Breeze-10 energy
Arcane Echo-15 energy...
65 energy...but my bar only has 36...
can you tell me how I should order the skills? Or how I can keep them from waring on my energy so much? I get alot of energy from the trolls, its just that, after all these enchantments, by the time I get enough to renew my prot spirit, it's already failed. Any solutions?
SOJ-15 energy
Mantra of resolve-15 energy
Prot Spirit-10 energy
Breeze-10 energy
Arcane Echo-15 energy...
65 energy...but my bar only has 36...
can you tell me how I should order the skills? Or how I can keep them from waring on my energy so much? I get alot of energy from the trolls, its just that, after all these enchantments, by the time I get enough to renew my prot spirit, it's already failed. Any solutions?
Avarre
Ok saying you regen to about 20 energy after casting enchantments.
Prot spirit - 10 remaining
Breeze - 0 remaining
after 5 hits - mantra of resolve - 0 remaining
pause to allow energy to refill (so resolve doesn't end, vs avicara)
Echo, SoJ, recast enchants.
Prot spirit - 10 remaining
Breeze - 0 remaining
after 5 hits - mantra of resolve - 0 remaining
pause to allow energy to refill (so resolve doesn't end, vs avicara)
Echo, SoJ, recast enchants.
caploves1019
wow ty for the mesmer info been trying to build one for awhile
woot woot
oo thx. I cant wait to try this out with my mes. But i have a couple of questions. 1. dose it matter what type of amor u have? and 2. where can i find a -50hp off hand weapon thing? thx agian for the build
Avarre
Armor does not matter, enchanter's gives the largest boost however is not needed. AL60 is safest in case of error.
Cities of Ascalon quest, Ascalon City (Post Searing).
Cities of Ascalon quest, Ascalon City (Post Searing).
Shadow-Hunter
Sry to ask, But what Music is it in the Video? i kinda like it but cant figure out who has made it and what song it is X.x
Also i nice guide, but i pefer to 2 man it with my Monk ;P
~Shadow
Also i nice guide, but i pefer to 2 man it with my Monk ;P
~Shadow
woot woot
O ok thx. Now i have to get my runes
bobert_monduvia
omg i want a mesmer now =D
awesome guide
awesome guide
flaren
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Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter
Sry to ask, But what Music is it in the Video? i kinda like it but cant figure out who has made it and what song it is X.x
The song's "I Want Out", by Sonata Arctica. Cover of the original by Helloween I believe.
And nice build Avarre, brought back my interest in my mesmer when I get bored.
And nice build Avarre, brought back my interest in my mesmer when I get bored.
Lyphen
I've been having a lot of fun using these builds in Cantha, against Jade Brotherhood members. Haven't really made alot, but it's still a good time watching everyone flop and die!
lundis
this build works great!
i have some minor problem with the graspings but i started yesterday and i have found 2 ectos(not much but i have serious money problems^^) so im happy
thx for a great build!
i have some minor problem with the graspings but i started yesterday and i have found 2 ectos(not much but i have serious money problems^^) so im happy
thx for a great build!
bobert_monduvia
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Originally Posted by bobert_monduvia
omg i want a mesmer now =D
awesome guide well...i made a mesmer.
levled, skills etc.
build works awesome. <3
went into UW today, got 2 ectos in the first chamber and didnt run into and serious problems. Thanks so much for the guide.
awesome guide well...i made a mesmer.
levled, skills etc.
build works awesome. <3
went into UW today, got 2 ectos in the first chamber and didnt run into and serious problems. Thanks so much for the guide.
Avarre
Good to see it still works and people can still find it useful
Hopefully it will never get nerfed because well... its already slow
Hopefully it will never get nerfed because well... its already slow
Shadow-Hunter
Btw, is it possible just to kill off the 9-10 Aatxes, then kill the Gasping Darkness, and then just Run like hell to the smiters? Becouse atm i pefer not to fight Aatxes, becouse i think its the hardest Part of the run.. (3 PS interupts in one run AINT! fun >_>) I havent tryed it yet, but i think its possible.. Unless the Aatxes follow you into the smiter Area :S And then when all the easy shit smiters has been maimed then return and give the remaining Aatxes and Dyders a shot?
~Shadow
~Shadow
Avarre
Very risky and probably impossible because those aatxes have a patrol route that goes to the stairs. It's possible to dodge one group, though (the one that goes to the right, near the bridge).
antoninus
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Good to see it still works and people can still find it useful
Hopefully it will never get nerfed because well... its already slow
slow but SOLO 
i'm thinking of making a mesmer so i can use an alternative proffession to 2man uw farm but i dont know which to delete!! i have a reserve slot for pvp, i love my rit, i'll NEVER delete my monk, i just brought my canthan necro to toa, i have a wammo but.. its a wammo we all need wammos! so that leaves me with my ranger.. hmm... very nice build avarre, i guess for you mesmers out there it feels Awwesome actually getting to WHACK aatxes to kill them.
edit* Yes soloing would be nice too =D i tried soloing the place with SoJ W/Mo with sprint and it took so long..
Hopefully it will never get nerfed because well... its already slow
slow but SOLO i'm thinking of making a mesmer so i can use an alternative proffession to 2man uw farm but i dont know which to delete!! i have a reserve slot for pvp, i love my rit, i'll NEVER delete my monk, i just brought my canthan necro to toa, i have a wammo but.. its a wammo we all need wammos! so that leaves me with my ranger.. hmm... very nice build avarre, i guess for you mesmers out there it feels Awwesome actually getting to WHACK aatxes to kill them.
edit* Yes soloing would be nice too =D i tried soloing the place with SoJ W/Mo with sprint and it took so long..
Avarre
Not to mention that if you don't want to solo, a mesmer 55 tank's (the build listed below the first uw solo) only weaker capacity to a monk is the lack of spellbreaker, meaning you just have to be more careful... though you gain the function of hard res without losing SV.
Darth Marth
Thanks for the awesome build, Avarre! I'm soloing Hydras with the greatest of ease and practicing for the UW!
I'm soloing Hydras with the greatest of ease and practicing for the UW!
Slainster
Ill try this once Ive completed my survivor titles
Avarre
Not before?
nightsquire
I tried this, and I just can't Underworld solo with it. Its probably my fault though, as i just become so nervous in there with the nightmare, and forget to cast my spirit until the aatxes have con too far. i guess it's just my nerves, but i'd love to have some ingame help. I was thinking of maybe a complete prot spirit, healing breeze, interrupt mesmer. That way your elite could be spellbreaker (for those ngithmares), and you could continually cast echoed clumsiness on the attxes. i don't know, just a thought.
But i do adore farming outside of aughury rock with this build. it is incredible, i just cant use it in the area it was built for, which sounds stupid, btu im either not fast enough, or too nervous.
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anyway, here are some pics of my mass farming with it in augury:
But i do adore farming outside of aughury rock with this build. it is incredible, i just cant use it in the area it was built for, which sounds stupid, btu im either not fast enough, or too nervous.
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anyway, here are some pics of my mass farming with it in augury:
Avarre
Being nervous and new to the run is practically a physical detrimental force to you. One you get more comfortable running the build and area, it will become a lot easier. A good idea is to try the solo build in areas like you are now, and the 2-man build to learn UW, nm patterns, etc. After which it is a good deal easier, especially as while 2 manning you have res - you can learn your limits easier and practice charging in
Feppa
Avarre i wanna thank you for all theese builds they are reat!
I used your UW build to farm Blessed Griffons outside Camp Rancor and it is great the drop quiet good drops sometimes and alot of gold.
I saw you wrote they dont drop much but they actually do i have got alot of golden items from them often bows and sometimes sword once i even got a Fellblade.
Well it was Req 13 and it wasn't a big profit but anyways you make pretty much money and they are very easy.
I got a movie when im farming theese at that run they dont drop anything good but trust me they really do drop good stuff so if you have given up hope on other farming palces try this!
Link for movie: http://files.filefront.com/Gw_Mesmer.../fileinfo.html
I used your UW build to farm Blessed Griffons outside Camp Rancor and it is great the drop quiet good drops sometimes and alot of gold.
I saw you wrote they dont drop much but they actually do i have got alot of golden items from them often bows and sometimes sword once i even got a Fellblade.
Well it was Req 13 and it wasn't a big profit but anyways you make pretty much money and they are very easy.
I got a movie when im farming theese at that run they dont drop anything good but trust me they really do drop good stuff so if you have given up hope on other farming palces try this!
Link for movie: http://files.filefront.com/Gw_Mesmer.../fileinfo.html
Feppa
Avarre i wanna thank you for all theese builds they are reat!
I used your UW build to farm Blessed Griffons outside Camp Rancor and it is great the drop quiet good drops sometimes and alot of gold.
I saw you wrote they dont drop much but they actually do i have got alot of golden items from them often bows and sometimes sword once i even got a Fellblade.
Well it was Req 13 and it wasn't a big profit but anyways you make pretty much money and they are very easy.
I got a movie when im farming theese at that run they dont drop anything good but trust me they really do drop good stuff so if you have given up hope on other farming palces try this!
And watch out for the Summit Heretics they use Shatter Enchantment.
Link for movie: http://files.filefront.com/Gw_Mesmer.../fileinfo.html
Edit: So sorry i double posted im blaming my computer for that its slow and i thought it stoped and pressed again, sorry. And i
forgot to say that the movie is the old version now i got Chaneling instead of Power Drain for extra energy.
I used your UW build to farm Blessed Griffons outside Camp Rancor and it is great the drop quiet good drops sometimes and alot of gold.
I saw you wrote they dont drop much but they actually do i have got alot of golden items from them often bows and sometimes sword once i even got a Fellblade.
Well it was Req 13 and it wasn't a big profit but anyways you make pretty much money and they are very easy.
I got a movie when im farming theese at that run they dont drop anything good but trust me they really do drop good stuff so if you have given up hope on other farming palces try this!
And watch out for the Summit Heretics they use Shatter Enchantment.
Link for movie: http://files.filefront.com/Gw_Mesmer.../fileinfo.html
Edit: So sorry i double posted im blaming my computer for that its slow and i thought it stoped and pressed again, sorry. And i
forgot to say that the movie is the old version now i got Chaneling instead of Power Drain for extra energy.
MMSDome
the build has been working great but i always run into trouble with coldfires(solo) i know i can run away from mael storm but thats always a pain in the...butt... any special words of wisdom?
and night squire i recommend for hydras and griffons that you use the troll farming build replacing mantra of resolve with flame like Avarre has, much more efficient imo.
and night squire i recommend for hydras and griffons that you use the troll farming build replacing mantra of resolve with flame like Avarre has, much more efficient imo.
Avarre
Ugh, for coldfires there's not much to it except move in and start hitting, interrupting maelstroms as possible. You CAN stand in maelstrom and cast if your timing is very good, but it's generally better to pull out of it's range and wand them until it ends, or move around to another coldfire that's not in the radius.
MMSDome
o yea and 1 last question whats the name of the song in the video
Avarre
Here's answer..
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Originally Posted by flaren
Quote:
The song's "I Want Out", by Sonata Arctica. Cover of the original by Helloween I believe.
Search thread, so many people ask and the answer is everywhere :O
Search thread, so many people ask and the answer is everywhere :O
SnipiousMax
Avarre, have you tired a Spirit bond version of this build?
Darth Marth
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Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
Avarre, have you tired a Spirit bond version of this build?
A solo Spirit Bond build would probably look something like this:
Illusionary Weaponry, Protective Spirit, Spirit Bond, Power Drain, Sympathetic Visage, Essence Bond, Balthazar's Spirit, Elemental Resistance
12 + 1 + 1 Illusion, 8 Protection Prayers, 10 + 1 Fast Casting
I'm using your build extensively, Avarre and it works great with practice. Only thing is, from what I've seen Hydra farming seems to be more efficient than UW farming with it. (Those Aatxes take SO...LONG... to kill, it's much more dangerous, and there's the 1k entrance fee) I can rake in about 25k a day mainly Hydra farming with this build; how much do people make UW farming with it?
Illusionary Weaponry, Protective Spirit, Spirit Bond, Power Drain, Sympathetic Visage, Essence Bond, Balthazar's Spirit, Elemental Resistance
12 + 1 + 1 Illusion, 8 Protection Prayers, 10 + 1 Fast Casting
I'm using your build extensively, Avarre and it works great with practice.
Only thing is, from what I've seen Hydra farming seems to be more efficient than UW farming with it. (Those Aatxes take SO...LONG... to kill, it's much more dangerous, and there's the 1k entrance fee) I can rake in about 25k a day mainly Hydra farming with this build; how much do people make UW farming with it?
Shadow-Hunter
That would depends on how many ectos that drops.. >_> i have done Full runs where 0 ectos dropped, in this case its only what you get from the gold + crappy merch stuff -1k.. Other times you get 4 ectos in a Run, witch can make a neat profit of around 28k ..
Edit: altho, its still more profitable to 2 man UW, becouse with a necro you can lay down like 10+ enemys in the same time as you lay 1 down solo x.x
~Shadow
Edit: altho, its still more profitable to 2 man UW, becouse with a necro you can lay down like 10+ enemys in the same time as you lay 1 down solo x.x
~Shadow
Darth Marth
I know. With a 600 tank and Smiting bonder, a 2-Mesmer team can be as fast as a 55 and SS. Runs take something like 20 or so minutes for a 2-man group, right?
Runs take something like 20 or so minutes for a 2-man group, right?
Shadow-Hunter
2 man mesmer team.. Exactley how is the SS build for the mesmer :P ? It seems possble as its just a change around of the N/Me prof. But the lack of Soul Reaping must make it sucky to w8 around for energy, where the necro just see xx monsters * 11 energy over his head after a battle.
And yea, i guess that a 55/SS Monk+Necro team can do the smiters around that time maybe a little faster/slower depending on how the Monk Aggro..
~Shadow :P
And yea, i guess that a 55/SS Monk+Necro team can do the smiters around that time maybe a little faster/slower depending on how the Monk Aggro..
~Shadow :P
Darth Marth
No, the 600 tank tanks and the bonder uses Retribution and Holy Wrath to do around 50 damage per attack. It's about as fast, and the bonder doesn't have to do anything.
Ragged_Ine
I had a question about the necro's bar that you posted. What is the use of Vengence?
Also I have ran this in the Uw a few times solo and I found that the best possible thing to do when 2 nightmares spawn is to interupt one, then when the other renders your enchants, recast prot spirit very quickly and try to break agro with what ever mobs are on you. With a ss necro, I have held a mob of coldnight's before with just prot and and SOD after 2 nightmares spawned. But that takes alot of work from the necro and the 55, so breaking agro is probley the best thing to do.
Also I have ran this in the Uw a few times solo and I found that the best possible thing to do when 2 nightmares spawn is to interupt one, then when the other renders your enchants, recast prot spirit very quickly and try to break agro with what ever mobs are on you. With a ss necro, I have held a mob of coldnight's before with just prot and and SOD after 2 nightmares spawned. But that takes alot of work from the necro and the 55, so breaking agro is probley the best thing to do.
GerryHYH
Sorry lol, I just really wanted to say thank you for the author to spend his time patiently going through the guild!
Caged Fury
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Originally Posted by Ragged_Ine
I had a question about the necro's bar that you posted. What is the use of Vengence?
Vengence is used to res a dead 55-er. Due to having a low health to begin, and the death penalty, they will drop dead straight away if ressed with Rebirth or Resurrect because they are based on a percentage of their health.
Vengence is used as it brings them back with full health, so they can swap armour or weapon set to increase their health. When Vengence end and they die, they can then be ressed with Rebirth or Resurrect.
Vengence is used as it brings them back with full health, so they can swap armour or weapon set to increase their health. When Vengence end and they die, they can then be ressed with Rebirth or Resurrect.