Me/Mo UW Solo Build
R_Frost
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Originally Posted by Avarre
With 15% dp -> remove focus -> 33hp
With 30% dp -> remove focus and one super rune -> 36hp
With 45% dp -> remove focus and two super runes -> eh 39 hp I'd suppose.
And so on
btw everyone, try farming hydra's. ive gotten 2 -20 health offhands from them recently. with a 15% DP just switching out the -50 for the -20 gives you 13hp, ive found you can take on much larger groups at 13hp for a short amount of time. when your DP recovers up to 6-7% then switch out back to the -50 again and continue to take on bigger groups til your DP is gone
With 30% dp -> remove focus and one super rune -> 36hp
With 45% dp -> remove focus and two super runes -> eh 39 hp I'd suppose.
And so on
btw everyone, try farming hydra's. ive gotten 2 -20 health offhands from them recently. with a 15% DP just switching out the -50 for the -20 gives you 13hp, ive found you can take on much larger groups at 13hp for a short amount of time. when your DP recovers up to 6-7% then switch out back to the -50 again and continue to take on bigger groups til your DP is gone
Tiela
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Originally Posted by R_Frost
yeah go out of Destiney's and kill griffons, rockshots and sand giants or out of augury and take on hydra for practice. or go in the first area of the Elona's mission and practice on minotaurs and dune burrowers.
Thank you Frost !
As soon as I'm ready I'll try to contact you for an UW party
Thank you Frost !
As soon as I'm ready I'll try to contact you for an UW party
Avarre
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Originally Posted by R_Frost
i know this is a little late from the date of the post but if your looking for a monk or necro to go along if im availible i would be more then happy to do a 2 man UW run with a 55 mesmer. i know what the necro takes to support a 55 monk but does anything change for a 55 mesmer? ive done plenty of runs with my 55 monk and a few with my 55 mesmer. just message me in game, Richard Frost(Me/?), Nathan Wilde(Mo/?), or Lizzy Deathbane(N/Me) im usually on in the range of 7-10pm pst. this goes for any 55 Mesmer looking to have some UW fun
The mesmer and necro setup for 55 mes:
Mesmer
Shield of Deflection
Sympathetic Visage
Ess bond
Baltha Spirit
Mending
Power drain
Healing Breeze
Prot spirit
10 prot
9 heal
12 fast cast
11 illu
rest insp
Necro / Monk
Spiteful spirit
Desecrate enchantments
Suffering
Watchful spirit
Rebirth
Vengeance
Smite Hex
Ess bond
You can clear unwanted guests, smites, terrorwebs, vale + quest, mindblades with very high luck (I've managed it once, and only once), and twin serpent mountain. Max tanking without dp = 15 smites with slow reduction of hp, 12~ smites forever. You'll need SoD for more than 5. You may drop FC for more prot if you wish, I use FC so I can challenge mindblades.
Ill add the guide to the build to the first post over the weekend.
Additional Info : The SS Me/N
Spiteful spirit
Awaken the Blood
Desecrate enchantments
Suffering
SV
Spirit of Failure
Res sig
Power drain
12 curses
9 illu
10 insp
rest FC
Inferior completely to a necro, but more mesmery.
Mesmer
Shield of Deflection
Sympathetic Visage
Ess bond
Baltha Spirit
Mending
Power drain
Healing Breeze
Prot spirit
10 prot
9 heal
12 fast cast
11 illu
rest insp
Necro / Monk
Spiteful spirit
Desecrate enchantments
Suffering
Watchful spirit
Rebirth
Vengeance
Smite Hex
Ess bond
You can clear unwanted guests, smites, terrorwebs, vale + quest, mindblades with very high luck (I've managed it once, and only once), and twin serpent mountain. Max tanking without dp = 15 smites with slow reduction of hp, 12~ smites forever. You'll need SoD for more than 5. You may drop FC for more prot if you wish, I use FC so I can challenge mindblades.
Ill add the guide to the build to the first post over the weekend.
Additional Info : The SS Me/N
Spiteful spirit
Awaken the Blood
Desecrate enchantments
Suffering
SV
Spirit of Failure
Res sig
Power drain
12 curses
9 illu
10 insp
rest FC
Inferior completely to a necro, but more mesmery.
boxcarracers052
Good guide, Thanks! I'm glad I didn't blow 50k on monk runes, got my ascalon armor with all sups for less than 1k!
tramssii
Wow, this motivates me just enough to make a mesmer. Thanks
Tindalos
The build seems solid, and I know I'm below optimum (can't get a high enough enchanting bonus on the sword) but for the life of me I cannot target the nightmares and my UW runs end within moments of starting. Any suggestions on targeting?
Avarre
Do enough runs to know the usual spawn points, so that you're already ready to target when they pop up.
Tiela
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Originally Posted by Tindalos
The build seems solid, and I know I'm below optimum (can't get a high enough enchanting bonus on the sword) but for the life of me I cannot target the nightmares and my UW runs end within moments of starting. Any suggestions on targeting?
if this can help (Im also an UW beginner ) :
I always carefuly aggro aatxe with an illusion wand and wait a few second for a possible nighmare pop. When I'm hearing nightmare, I'm using the ctrl button to show all available targets and I click on the nightmare, interupt it and kill it. Also, a good thing is to choose an high screen resolution (1400x1050 for my concern) and placing camera as far as you can : this will give you a large range of vision and you're not gonna miss the bad guy
) : I always carefuly aggro aatxe with an illusion wand and wait a few second for a possible nighmare pop. When I'm hearing nightmare, I'm using the ctrl button to show all available targets and I click on the nightmare, interupt it and kill it. Also, a good thing is to choose an high screen resolution (1400x1050 for my concern) and placing camera as far as you can : this will give you a large range of vision and you're not gonna miss the bad guy
Tindalos
Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn't realized there were spawn points and that they were spawning randomly. Between keeping an eye out for "threat places", looks like there are perhaps 3 in that first room that may or may not have a nightmare, and keeping the camera back I was able to catch them and clear the first room!
Thanks again for the tips! I'll get this down yet!
Thanks again for the tips! I'll get this down yet!
Shadwu
This made me want to do mesmer 
)
I just have to start it :l
) I just have to start it :l
boxcarracers052
Just to let you guys know, The new +5 energy Katana from Crafter at the end of Imperial Sanctum, the Last Factions Mission, helps a TON! Add a 20% enchanting pommel and you are set.
Avarre
I'd still take a FFS (double IW/SV 10% make things alot faster and safer) over it, but now that +5e swords are cheap... go for it
Shadwu
I dont want to read all 13 pages, so Where to get -50 off hand?
I have ench last 10% longer mod (could get better :L), what other mod should be?
Is there place to train this build, with same skills? (there was avicara builds etc, but they use SoJ)
I have ench last 10% longer mod (could get better :L), what other mod should be?
Is there place to train this build, with same skills? (there was avicara builds etc, but they use SoJ)
Avarre
-50 offhand, quest 'Cities of Ascalon'
Practice build on Losaru bladehands (they have ripostes) or any melee mob (minotaurs in desert etc).
Practice build on Losaru bladehands (they have ripostes) or any melee mob (minotaurs in desert etc).
Shadwu
Ok, now I have almost ready mesmer. I just need ench last longer mod, and maybe another mod? Anyone has like 15% longer mod to sell?
Shadwu
I went to UW to try. I killed two Aatxes, and it felt very nice (never soloed in UW). Then Nightmare suprised me (dont know locations yet), and I got killed.
Thanks for this build, gotta practise more.
:S
Thanks for this build, gotta practise more.
:S
Sentao Nugra
I SOOOO can't wait to try the duo mesmer run with the buff to Mantra of Recall... just have to get through school first. We will have to work something out with time soon, gotta finish this run ><.
Shadwu
Vigorous spirit would be good in this build?
captainccc
WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW....Awsome guide!!!
I tried 55 necro and didnt like it much but i love mesmers...mabey i should have read this before buying all those monk sup tatoos =(
Still think i should make one? i mean you can farm more places with this build....i think....makes sense anyway.
/Edit: ya its cool that i made a 55 monk, some places you cant farm unless you have bonetties and SoJ so i guess ill have both ^_^
I tried 55 necro and didnt like it much but i love mesmers...mabey i should have read this before buying all those monk sup tatoos =(
Still think i should make one? i mean you can farm more places with this build....i think....makes sense anyway.
/Edit: ya its cool that i made a 55 monk, some places you cant farm unless you have bonetties and SoJ so i guess ill have both ^_^
MeatZ Ball
where can i get the Essence Bond ?
Avarre
At the skill trader. Unlock with faction and buy anywhere, Ember light camp, or whereever else it is..
FANGfucious
ok so im the worlds most lazy guy and refuse to read this thread over again from the first time i read like 10 pages of it haha
ATM i have a 55 mesmer following your build... its tight major props for this and thanks
i was wondering if with the factions update if there are any changes modifications for the build as a whole... like any skills changed around so they dont work with the build or anything?
i have not had time to do a solo run myself in the UW so i havnt checked myself im sorry if theres already been a few posts and answers to this question but......... im lazy? haha
thanks in advance to any replies =D
again great build
~FANG
ATM i have a 55 mesmer following your build... its tight major props for this and thanks
i was wondering if with the factions update if there are any changes modifications for the build as a whole... like any skills changed around so they dont work with the build or anything?
i have not had time to do a solo run myself in the UW so i havnt checked myself im sorry if theres already been a few posts and answers to this question but......... im lazy? haha
thanks in advance to any replies =D
again great build
~FANG
Evilsod
How does this work though since they boosted Savage Slash to 1/2 cast? Or do you just use SV before you run in and leave it to that
I might have to start going UW again, havent been for ages since my old SS/SV (who ended up becoming the 55monk...) bought Factions.
I might have to start going UW again, havent been for ages since my old SS/SV (who ended up becoming the 55monk...) bought Factions.
Avarre
I haven't changed the build any with factions skills... none of them really fit the purposes.
I'll try again sometime and see how savage effects it.. with ecto prices slightly better maybe it will be worth farming.
I'll try again sometime and see how savage effects it.. with ecto prices slightly better maybe it will be worth farming.
Evilsod
I think it would be a major problem tbh. Even before the patch the Aatxe sometimes got worryingly close to Illusionary Weapon and Breeze. I have been interrupted a few times too. I suppose if they have no energy then you'll be alot better off. Plus you can always sacrifice some energy to cast Breeze so they interrupt that instead of SV...
I'd say ecto prices are on the way down though. I was in ToA (europe) late last night and there were about 8 55 duos to a single full team.
Thinking about it, it would be quite easy to choose a more useless skill and switch it for Distortion. Would give you a fair bit of protection from them.
I'd say ecto prices are on the way down though. I was in ToA (europe) late last night and there were about 8 55 duos to a single full team.
Thinking about it, it would be quite easy to choose a more useless skill and switch it for Distortion. Would give you a fair bit of protection from them.
Theos
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
I think it would be a major problem tbh. Even before the patch the Aatxe sometimes got worryingly close to Illusionary Weapon and Breeze. I have been interrupted a few times too. I suppose if they have no energy then you'll be alot better off. Plus you can always sacrifice some energy to cast Breeze so they interrupt that instead of SV...
I'd say ecto prices are on the way down though. I was in ToA (europe) late last night and there were about 8 55 duos to a single full team.
Thinking about it, it would be quite easy to choose a more useless skill and switch it for Distortion. Would give you a fair bit of protection from them. The aatxe seem to have actually gotten alot better with interupting; soloing has become increasingly more difficult. The price of ecto won't stay up much either so :/ Perhaps the best option would be to just dual run it.
I'd say ecto prices are on the way down though. I was in ToA (europe) late last night and there were about 8 55 duos to a single full team.
Thinking about it, it would be quite easy to choose a more useless skill and switch it for Distortion. Would give you a fair bit of protection from them. The aatxe seem to have actually gotten alot better with interupting; soloing has become increasingly more difficult. The price of ecto won't stay up much either so :/ Perhaps the best option would be to just dual run it.
Avarre
Possibly, as there isn't really anything you can remove from the build to fit in distort etc (besides the fact it would own your energy). The tanking build if you want to run a Me/Mo 55 tank for 2 man runs is on the first post, with some pictures...
Ention
I tried it and it works fine. I've only tried it a couple of time in UW and it failed. However, that was my own fault for making stupid moves. I'm just gonna use it for Hydras until I geta bit more practice, then I'll see about UW Thanks Avarre. It's a great build and its made me alot of money.
P.S.: Somethig I was wondering about. My friend loaned me his 20% enchantment sword, and even with that, I cant recast as soon as my spells go out. Theres aabout a 5 or less second period where I have to go without IW because its recharging when it ends. Is this normal? If its not its probably my fault...as I said before I can make alot of stupid moves (had to buy new armor...55hp doesnt really work with hp boosting armor o.-) so is it normal or am I making a mistake?
Thanks Avarre. It's a great build and its made me alot of money.P.S.: Somethig I was wondering about. My friend loaned me his 20% enchantment sword, and even with that, I cant recast as soon as my spells go out. Theres aabout a 5 or less second period where I have to go without IW because its recharging when it ends. Is this normal? If its not its probably my fault...as I said before I can make alot of stupid moves (had to buy new armor...55hp doesnt really work with hp boosting armor o.-) so is it normal or am I making a mistake?
Cymboric Treewalker
The sad thing is this is really a Monk build... run by a Mesmer.
Eaimirth Etaivella
fast casting may help with them not interrupting breeze/ps; interesting idea, read it when you first posted it actually. Yet I have to agree with Cymboric in that a monk can do it faster and more efficiently. Mesmers will have to wait for their PvE claim to fame...warriors(running, trolls, etc.)rangers(port ftw!), necros(ss...), eles(nuker title, nothing more),monks(too many to count) have their boat set to sail. Mesmers will just have to wait I guess.
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Possibly, as there isn't really anything you can remove from the build to fit in distort etc (besides the fact it would own your energy). The tanking build if you want to run a Me/Mo 55 tank for 2 man runs is on the first post, with some pictures...
Nah i tried it soon after i posted that. I just forgot to post the results...
Well i died on the 3rd group of Aatxe. The 1st group, cast PS and SV before they reached me, drained all there energy. Once SV Recharged, used it again instantly. They will NEVER hit you with Savage Slash as it requires 10 energy, and they always use Riposte/Deadly the moment its availble. The 2nd group happened in exactly the same way.
The 3rd group, i cast SV way too late and the Aatxe got an incredibly speedy Savage Slash in (RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO!) right before it cast. Next thing i know im bleeding w/ deep wound, go to cast Healing Breeze and get interrupted. Next thing i know im dead.
Aslong as you cast SV before they reach you there is no way the boost to Savage Slash has any effect on you what-so-ever as they never get chance to use it.
Well i died on the 3rd group of Aatxe. The 1st group, cast PS and SV before they reached me, drained all there energy. Once SV Recharged, used it again instantly. They will NEVER hit you with Savage Slash as it requires 10 energy, and they always use Riposte/Deadly the moment its availble. The 2nd group happened in exactly the same way.
The 3rd group, i cast SV way too late and the Aatxe got an incredibly speedy Savage Slash in (RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO!) right before it cast. Next thing i know im bleeding w/ deep wound, go to cast Healing Breeze and get interrupted. Next thing i know im dead.
Aslong as you cast SV before they reach you there is no way the boost to Savage Slash has any effect on you what-so-ever as they never get chance to use it.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker
Still wondering why you think it's sad that mesmers have builds that allow them to farm... Who cares if it's primarily using a secondary class, the point is to be able to play in any way you want, and if you want to farm then gogogo.
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fast casting may help with them not interrupting breeze/ps; interesting idea, read it when you first posted it actually. Yet I have to agree with Cymboric in that a monk can do it faster and more efficiently. Mesmers will have to wait for their PvE claim to fame...warriors(running, trolls, etc.)rangers(port ftw!), necros(ss...), eles(nuker title, nothing more),monks(too many to count) have their boat set to sail. Mesmers will just have to wait I guess.
All these comments coming 6 months after I posted the build, and the importance of it really diminished with the lower ecto value, boggle me.
frickaline
Well I'm late to the party but, oh well, I'll still pipe in.
Very impressive nice job!
(And who cares if another class can do this also, that's hardly the point here. Its the mesmer forum after all and when I hide in here, there are no other classes.)
Very impressive
nice job! (And who cares if another class can do this also, that's hardly the point here. Its the mesmer forum after all and when I hide in here, there are no other classes.)
Cymboric Treewalker
Avarre:
You seem a bit angry without reason, but I will address your points anyway.
Some of the builds could in no way work worse with a monk as the primary.
Build 1:
Illusionary Weaponry {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Mending
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Healing breeze
Power Drain
Protective Spirit
Certainly this build focuses on the strength of a mesmer in Illusionary Weaponry. It leans heavily on monk skills, but it is logical to say that it is a Mesmer build.
Build 2:
Shield of Deflection {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending
Power Drain
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
9+1+3 Fast Cast
7+3 Illu
5+3 Insp
9 Heal
10 Prot
I am not sure that a high Fast Cast alone makes this build a mesmer build. Certainly the skills list is that of a monk with two mesmer skills tossed on top. I have not run this one as I don't have the monk Elite, but to me this one feels more monk than Mesmer.
Build 3:
This is the one I ran just before posting my comment:
Shield of Judgement {E}
Arcane Echo
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending
Mantra of Resolve
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
5 + 3 + 1 Inspiration
12 Smite
2 + 3 Fast cast
9 Heal
8 Prot
This could clearly be run by a Monk more effectively than a Mesmer.
While your illusionary weaponry builds rely on Mesmer skills and I think would be properly labeled as Mesmer builds I am still not sure I could call them true mesmer builds... then again to me all 55 builds are really monk builds to me -- as they depend on the monk skills for survival and fall apart without them.
I did not mean to offend you as the builds were very well put together and work very well too. The rest of your tone is very suprising and arrogant. It dissapoints me that you make statements such as "you make these kind of comments as if they matter" and "if you had a clue".
Then again your statement that "wondering why you think it's sad that mesmers have builds that allow them to farm" reveals what the disconnect is. I am sorry you were offended.
You seem a bit angry without reason, but I will address your points anyway.
Some of the builds could in no way work worse with a monk as the primary.
Build 1:
Illusionary Weaponry {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Mending
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Healing breeze
Power Drain
Protective Spirit
Certainly this build focuses on the strength of a mesmer in Illusionary Weaponry. It leans heavily on monk skills, but it is logical to say that it is a Mesmer build.
Build 2:
Shield of Deflection {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending
Power Drain
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
9+1+3 Fast Cast
7+3 Illu
5+3 Insp
9 Heal
10 Prot
I am not sure that a high Fast Cast alone makes this build a mesmer build. Certainly the skills list is that of a monk with two mesmer skills tossed on top. I have not run this one as I don't have the monk Elite, but to me this one feels more monk than Mesmer.
Build 3:
This is the one I ran just before posting my comment:
Shield of Judgement {E}
Arcane Echo
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending
Mantra of Resolve
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
5 + 3 + 1 Inspiration
12 Smite
2 + 3 Fast cast
9 Heal
8 Prot
This could clearly be run by a Monk more effectively than a Mesmer.
While your illusionary weaponry builds rely on Mesmer skills and I think would be properly labeled as Mesmer builds I am still not sure I could call them true mesmer builds... then again to me all 55 builds are really monk builds to me -- as they depend on the monk skills for survival and fall apart without them.
I did not mean to offend you as the builds were very well put together and work very well too. The rest of your tone is very suprising and arrogant. It dissapoints me that you make statements such as "you make these kind of comments as if they matter" and "if you had a clue".
Then again your statement that "wondering why you think it's sad that mesmers have builds that allow them to farm" reveals what the disconnect is. I am sorry you were offended.
wilson
i really dont know what this is all about, i really love this build. the first day i used it i was amazed and i still am everytime i use avarre's IW build. it's just so much fun i have used it for so long, but never really saying something about it, being along time leecher
it requires some practice for sure, so i wouldnt recommend going to uw right away. i started with minotaurs (the "little" ones outside ice tooth cave), then moved to the destert for their bigger cousins, then it was losarus and finally trolls, before actually going down to uw. my first few runs tunrned into a disaster being there alone, all by yourself is a nice experience though. but when i managed to survive my first smite run, i was so happy, like a little child getting christmas presents (slightly exagerated, but.. )
this build is not some "copy" of an existing build, it stands for itself and it is very solid. it has very little flaws, and with some twitching it can be adopted to many a situation imho. but i dont really have to tell you, just read avarre's origianl post. try it and see for yourself how much fun this build can be.
i'll just check if i have a screenie of my first successful run, when i'm finally home later
screenie of my first smite run - i actually survived
i have used it for so long, but never really saying something about it, being along time leecher it requires some practice for sure, so i wouldnt recommend going to uw right away. i started with minotaurs (the "little" ones outside ice tooth cave), then moved to the destert for their bigger cousins, then it was losarus and finally trolls, before actually going down to uw. my first few runs tunrned into a disaster
being there alone, all by yourself is a nice experience though. but when i managed to survive my first smite run, i was so happy, like a little child getting christmas presents (slightly exagerated, but.. )this build is not some "copy" of an existing build, it stands for itself and it is very solid. it has very little flaws, and with some twitching it can be adopted to many a situation imho. but i dont really have to tell you, just read avarre's origianl post. try it and see for yourself how much fun this build can be.
i'll just check if i have a screenie of my first successful run, when i'm finally home later
screenie of my first smite run - i actually survived
Avarre
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Originally Posted by wilson
Quote: Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker Build 1:
Illusionary Weaponry {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Mending
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Healing breeze
Power Drain
Protective Spirit
Certainly this build focuses on the strength of a mesmer in Illusionary Weaponry. It leans heavily on monk skills, but it is logical to say that it is a Mesmer build. This is the focus of the thread itself, the only one that was posted originally.
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Shield of Deflection {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending
Power Drain
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
9+1+3 Fast Cast
7+3 Illu
5+3 Insp
9 Heal
10 Prot
I am not sure that a high Fast Cast alone makes this build a mesmer build. Certainly the skills list is that of a monk with two mesmer skills tossed on top. I have not run this one as I don't have the monk Elite, but to me this one feels more monk than Mesmer. This was posted later as people asked about 2 man running, which is more profitable. It is a mesmer fulfilling a monk's role.
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Build 3: This is the one I ran just before posting my comment: Shield of Judgement {E} Arcane Echo Essence Bond Balthazar's Spirit Mending Mantra of Resolve Healing Breeze Protective Spirit 5 + 3 + 1 Inspiration 12 Smite 2 + 3 Fast cast 9 Heal 8 Prot This could clearly be run by a Monk more effectively than a Mesmer. This is a monk build I displayed stats for because not everyone knows the monk build for this, and so that those that do would have a brief guide on the capability of mesmer skills. Quote:
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