Me/Mo UW Solo Build

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by lambchop9428
The only reason i wondered about the fast casting and IW damage was because twice now, A grasping Darkness has interrupted my Power Drain while i was trying to interrupt rend enchantments. Both times the nightmare was behind the Darknesses and i couldn't wait for all of them to use there disrupting blow ><.
Eep...

Well, the first room should always be scouted fully for nightmares before triggering quest. If thats not it, I assume you mean the nightmare + graspings in the room before smites. I prefer to dodge that group entirely, or if not, just rush the nightmare with my wand. Because there is a limit in cast time reduction, I think in partitions of 1/4... no matter how much you boost your fast cast, your power drain won't be effected.

Quote: Originally Posted by m30wc0w Well it seems like a curse. Sure, you've used it as a curse, so it seems more natural that way. That doesn't change the fact that the skill is basically an elite form of empathy. A comparable oddity would be if Soul Leech (renamed to Ether Leech or whatever) was a mesmer elite. It would seem fitting, but it's relative, Mark of Subversion, is clearly a necro skill and not mesmer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SziP
Ive made a similar build but silightly different. The darknesses are my worst enemies in a UW run, the rest is pretty easy. I don't suppose you'd like to share it with me? I've always found the Aatxes hardest with my build now, the graspings are much more predictable after some practice.

Vengal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

A/

Sorry if this question is a bit noobish, but where can I find the -50hp focus? Im assuming thats a collectors item?

EDIT: Nvm. Read it on pg 4

Rehevkor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blue Note Cafe

W/R

Seven, your best bet is to just get a collector's sword (or something fancy like an Icy Dragon Sword if you have money to burn) and buy a Sword Pommel of Enchanting separately.

Btw, excellent guide Avarre. I just started a mesmer recently, and discovered that it's my favorite of all the professions. I'll definitely give this a shot once I beat the game with her

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Injektilo
Hydras are very good with this build, just start off with Prot Spirit and Breeze already on, weather the barrage of Meteors and then put up Sympathetic and renew Prot and Breeze and you're off and running. Also, heading out from Dunes of Despair, after I've killed the Enchanteds (Can be tough since the Bows pack some interrupt that Dazes you) I go through the first teleporter thing on the left and then head straight across the Wurm infested bit and to the left again (When travelling through Wurm-zones I drop Mending so that I can maintain Prot Spirit indefinately, even whilst just wandering about) and you'll find a few Sand Giants, I'm unsure as to the validity of this claim and whether or not it's just small sample size or whatever, but they have dropped an absolute barrage of max damage, perfect upgrade purples and golds for me.
I've tried following your route, but have hit a couple of problems. Do you kill the wurms on your way over to the sand giants? I tried just running away from them, but they keep popping up making it incredibly slow to get across that plain. Plus, they just seem to follow me forever and won't give up; I get to the sand giants and I still have a damn wurm on my tail.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrinn
Hi Miss,

I have been using this build with a +16% enchanting sword (and only 185 att pts) and having no probs with hydras, griffons, trolls, phys dmg avicaras, drakes, UW, etc. I just recently found a +19% axe, so I could hook you up with that sword if you want. Just message me in game. Good luck. Thanks for the offer, that's very kind of you! Not long after I posted however, I found someone selling a +17% axe, so running around with that has made life a lot easier. I've been farming griffons & hydras for a while now.

Farming the UW is a lot harder though. I've never managed to go to the UW with a group; trying sitting in ToA and get a group to take a mesmer to the UW. Not a chance. Therefore the UW experience is new for me, and I waste a lot of platinums going down there, just to be killed by the first nightmare that spawns. Wondering if anyone fancies taking me along to watch them sometime so I can get a better idea of where to go? I will just die and watch from your PoV, all the drops are yours. If anyone is willing, give me a message in-game, it would be very much appreciated.

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

I don't do the run much anymore, and these days I tend to die from minor slipups that are ever so common since I don't like paying attention to enchants.

However if I'm available when you pm me, I probably wouldn't mind. Just don't be alarmed if I die horrifically (I'd pay the run cost, of course)


Usually for reaching giants, I can just sprint across the plain. Wurms slow you down but usually don't keep following near the portal where the giants are. If one does, just kill

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Slightly off-topic, but some time ago I was asked what changes I had my necros do to their skillbar to complement my build better when two man running.

I hope this answers all possible, conceivable questions.




Drain ench added to help slow down the selfheal on mobs... nothing special

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

Hmmm...interesting. Having just got a 55Hp mesmer setup, I've only killed griffons, minotaurs and devourers...just for fun. But wandering around the the UW with a mesmer sounds like more fun, I must try this one day.

Good thread btw.

Draracle

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Built my Solo mesmer last night... only to find out something I already knew: I don't like to play with myself :P. Other than that, it is is very humourous and works quite well. Really, this is easy to do.

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

I saved up the cash to try the UW again (I died instantly first couple of times I tried), and managed to clear the 12 aataxes in the first area - got my first ecto & my first sapphire in one run

I can finally experience the UW (on my own) since no-one in ToA will take a mesmer in a group. Thank you Avarre

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draracle
Built my Solo mesmer last night... only to find out something I already knew: I don't like to play with myself :P. Other than that, it is is very humourous and works quite well. Really, this is easy to do. Yeah, the speed of the smite run is not exactly stellar, but that wasn't the aim. Spending long periods of time alone with IW to cut away gets tiring fast... one reason why i often go afk midrun (or midfight at times) and die unexpectedly

I'm going to revise my previous statement and say that killing the terrorwebs may be possible... because they don't attack constantly, youll have +3 regen to counter their moderately slow attacks (they cast spells like fireball and immolate which just do 5 damage, slower). So long as you get one behind a statue or so, it might be possible to still bring them down (just stay out of meteor showers). I'll try it, tweaking build if needed at some point..

Avarre

Avarre

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As I said in my last post (yes sorry for double), terrors may be possible. In actuality the hardest part was taking enough hits to keep energy from dying:



Drop ess bond versus them, use powerdrain to gain energy. Full tactic to killing them and that room is being added to first post...

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Is this build valid for the new UW?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

No, Fingers of Chaos will demolish your enchantments instantly, and there is shatter enchant hate. It is unlikely the PvE Tombs can be soloed by mortal man or woman.



AND THEN I LAGGED AND DIED ARGH.

Just to say, Unwanted Guests is completely possible, added strategy to the first post.

osiB

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

How do you get the Cities of Ascalon quest? I've done the first quest that Symon the Scribe has to offer but he won't give me the Cities of Ascalon quest afterwards.

Melisande

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Berkeley, CA

Blades of Angmar [BofA]

Me/N

Very nice build. I haven't actually played a 55hp monk before so I needed (and still need) quite a bit of practice but I'm working on it! I also find that bringing along a N/Mo friend with vengence, ressurect, and +3 mending (helps with energy if u end up with 60dp) plus an extra set of armor helps a lot with the learning process; saved me at least 5k.

Also, rogue's armor works perfectly fine. I got a set of Ascalon's rogue's simply for looks and tried it out. I think you just need close to 30 energy (with offhands) to be able to manage. That way you can cast sv, prot spirit and healing breeze in quick succession without having to worry about energy at all.

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Yup, max energy is only really a concern versus terrorwebs, because when fighting the last one energy really starts getting tight, to the point that you may have to switch to a staff. Learning the build with a supporter is handy too (I practiced tanking terrorwebs with Mr. Jerrypants).

osiB, the first quest (the one where you find the 3 monuments) gives you the cesta, it isn't listed as -50 in the rewards window as that does not show all the mods of the items you will receive.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Okay Avarre, I've seen this thread for a while and think mesmer farming is great. But lets see a build that can do it w/o the 55 monk skills, then Ill be prout of you. If you would like some help figuring it out, I can point you in the right direction just hit me up in game.

Wafflecopter

Wafflecopter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Neat, I always new I had a pve mesmer for something :P

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Sentao, what's with the completely random post?

I never said anywhere in this thread that this was a fully original or impressive build. I did, however, state that it was a build meant to complete a smiterun, and it can go beyond that to completing unwanted guests.

I never posted it for pride, I posted it because it's an easy build, an easy run, and could profit people perhaps.

In any case, if I look past the somewhat offending tone of your post..

Killing aatxes without 55 monk setup is pretty simple, using an empathy/signet of midnight arrangement. Me/N for enfeeble can work, although Me/Mo for a stronger self-heal and prot spirit (whether 55 or not, it helps) is a bit better. You can clear the labyrinth easily with that (and I believe a form of the build was heavily documented awhile ago). However, the challenge to examine are the grasping darknesses. A necromancer can quite possibly take down a group of 4 at once (resolve + echoed SS) but a mesmer lacks to spread damage to bring them down, especially as your focus of damage would have been empathy for aatxes in my previous example. Also, you'd be having to use epidemic + signet of midnight, which keeps you alive on a % chance basis. A 55 build, while taking much less skill or effort, is based on numerics completely and not on a %to miss, and can also go much further than a non-55.

Also, when you consider the smites, you can't hex them (smite hex, and that hurts when you're at normal hp), you can't blind them (mend cond, and there's nothing you could do after using sig of mid), and you don't have the survivability to stand against them long. Don't even start about vengeful aatxes + Keepers, or even terrors for that matter.

Not to say I won't put thought into it, however.

dahlen

dahlen

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Destiny of Guilds

Now, this build is the leet!
Got 4 ectos for far. Bulletproof!

osiB

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
osiB, the first quest (the one where you find the 3 monuments) gives you the cesta, it isn't listed as -50 in the rewards window as that does not show all the mods of the items you will receive. That's odd, the first quest I got was "Counting of the Fallens" and not the one where I find 3 monuments. He doesn't offer me the quest where I have to find the 3 monuments.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Sentao, what's with the completely random post?

I never said anywhere in this thread that this was a fully original or impressive build. I did, however, state that it was a build meant to complete a smiterun, and it can go beyond that to completing unwanted guests.

I never posted it for pride, I posted it because it's an easy build, an easy run, and could profit people perhaps.

In any case, if I look past the somewhat offending tone of your post..
I'm sorry that it came off as offensive, it wasn't meant to be. I know how you and you SMS buddies have come up with tons of builds for farming, and would like to see a long lasting one made w/o the 55 hp setup for a mesmer. Once again, sorry if I came off as offensive, I meant it as a challenge to create a build that would be away from the normal (55) and still work very efficiently.

Quote:
Killing aatxes without 55 monk setup is pretty simple, using an empathy/signet of midnight arrangement.

[...] Cut out to make post not take up a full page.

Not to say I won't put thought into it, however. That is all very viable information in creating the build, and I would like to chat with you about what it would take to pull it off. My friend and I took a Me/W and his N/Mo (to make things quicker and more efficient) and got through to the smites, where stupid mistakes were our problem. Contact me ingame if you want to discuss a build or formulation thereof that can do this. Once again (third time?) I'm sorry if I offended you, it did not mean to be that way.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Illusionary Weaponry {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Mending
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit <------ ( Smiting skill)
Healing breeze
Power Drain
Protective Spirit

5 + 3 Fast casting
12 + 3 + 1 Illusion
2 + 3 Inspiration
9 Healing Prayers (+7 breeze, +3 mending)
8 Protection Prayers (15s spirit)

^
( no smiting!?!? )

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Illusionary Weaponry {E}
Sympathetic Visage
Mending
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit <------ ( Smiting skill)

Healing breeze
Power Drain
Protective Spirit

5 + 3 Fast casting
12 + 3 + 1 Illusion
2 + 3 Inspiration
9 Healing Prayers (+7 breeze, +3 mending)
8 Protection Prayers (15s spirit)

^
( no smiting!?!? ) You don't need points in Smiting for Balthazar's Spirit to work, as you still gain 1 energy per hit, no matter how many points you put into Smiting.

Great thread by the way .

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra
I'm sorry that it came off as offensive, it wasn't meant to be. I know how you and you SMS buddies have come up with tons of builds for farming, and would like to see a long lasting one made w/o the 55 hp setup for a mesmer. Once again, sorry if I came off as offensive, I meant it as a challenge to create a build that would be away from the normal (55) and still work very efficiently. Out of point, but I cleared the first aatxes using a Me/W riposte-stance build. Aparrently there were allegations that Racthoh's build was 'hard' and I couldn't do it. Try it with 60 armor, warriorfreaks

Ok so I was bored. If I ever kill smites (not even physically possible with 60AL and zealots fire imo) I'll put up some more info..

SmokeN

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

non atm

W/

WoW mate grate build.
just finished today to build my mesmer.
went in 2 globs at aaxte part and then died near the smite crawlers sters :P
(at the last aaxte group)

lyroth.grimstone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nice video Avarre. I was bored the last time and i tried solo mesmer in UW. After couple of fails i got hang of it and now i can own UW alone . Sympathetic Visage helps a lot with my build. Didnt check all posts if someone else used it.

Ammm and i really like the music in video. What band is it?

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyroth.grimstone
Nice video Avarre. I was bored the last time and i tried solo mesmer in UW. After couple of fails i got hang of it and now i can own UW alone . Sympathetic Visage helps a lot with my build. Didnt check all posts if someone else used it.

Ammm and i really like the music in video. What band is it? Well if you checked the big post at the start, you'd notice I use SV and the reason the vid has resolve is I was still testing stuff at that time. The actual skill list I put up has SV *bish*

Song is :Sonata Arctica - I Want Out

Mr Ownager

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Canada

Hidden Village of Shadow

Really informative thread Avarre, thanks. That aside I have a question. I've been working on my own 55 mesmer, (which is hard because I can't play much ), But I've heard that there was a supposed UW nerf is this true?

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but here's an easy IW build for Elemental Titans:

Illusionary Weaponry
Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Vigorous Spirit
Mantra of Resolve
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending

You can tank just about any number of Titans and Maelstroms with Vigorous Spirit/Healing Breeze. No secret really, just maintain PS, HB and VS and slash away.

Wild Growths aren't too bad, just make sure you don't take them on alone as they don't hit often enough to maintain a constant HB (which you need to counter poison). And though it's possible to kill Rotting Titans, it's best to avoid them with this build...unless you're up for a real challenge.

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Ownager
Really informative thread Avarre, thanks. That aside I have a question. I've been working on my own 55 mesmer, (which is hard because I can't play much ), But I've heard that there was a supposed UW nerf is this true? I haven't noticed anything, but then again the last time I went into UW I was trying to afk and kill at the same time. So I didn't exactly get as far as normal

Thanks for the information LuxA, I think some ideas for the build have been posted but yours seems more solid. Only concern I have is the massive energy loss from resolve after the update, although if you're taking multiple titans and killing waterborn first it might not be crippling..

Mr Ownager

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Canada

Hidden Village of Shadow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
I haven't noticed anything, but then again the last time I went into UW I was trying to afk and kill at the same time. So I didn't exactly get as far as normal Thanks. I wanted to know if I had wasted my time making this.
But I guess not. Excellent, money for the win!

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Just tried this out on Hydras, and once you get the hang of using the numerical keys (I'm a point'n'click kinda guy) it's real fun I'm only at 185 points and it's well doable.

The only problem I've come across is that last annoying Hydra in a group that doesn't return enough energy to allow the immediate recasting of HB and PS - result = death , but I'm sure that's just a timing thing on my part.

Thx again for the fun build. Btw, has the 15% DP on a 55hp build always resulted in the life bar being reduced to 1 on revival at a shrine??

Avarre

Avarre

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Yes, it has. DP reduces base (480) life, so your runes send you to -17 life (and removing your focus returns you to 33).

You don't need HB versus a solo hydra, so just cast PS. If needed, switch to a staff, cast, switch back and kill it quickly.

Dr Ripley

Dr Ripley

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Seattle

Force of Arms [FoA]

I use something close to this build for hydras as well.

Mouse - since Illusion is so high, you can replace SV with Conjure Phantasm instead (hydras aren't using adrenaline based skills anyways). Conjure + IW usually wipes out hydras fairly quickly. Also, putting more points into protection instead of healing will keep protective spirit going longer, giving you more time (and thus more energy) to spam healing breeze. You'll still have enough pips in breeze+mending to stay alive just fine. You should be able to take on 6+ hydras at once as long as you pay attention to who casts meteor first and last...

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Thx for the advice all. That was my first attempt at this build and so I am sure the occasional death was just the result of a) not paying attention whilst being amazed at the inneffectual attempts of 6 hydras to smack me down b) lack of manual dexterity c) all round incompetence.........................

........or any combination of the above

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouse at Large
Thx for the advice all. That was my first attempt at this build and so I am sure the occasional death was just the result of a) not paying attention whilst being amazed at the inneffectual attempts of 6 hydras to smack me down b) lack of manual dexterity c) all round incompetence.........................

........or any combination of the above Practice makes perfect. Perhaps taking on such a large number of enemies that can't turn you into falay of mesmer wasn't a good idea.

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Yes, it has. DP reduces base (480) life, so your runes send you to -22 life (and removing your focus returns you to 33).

You don't need HB versus a solo hydra, so just cast PS. If needed, switch to a staff, cast, switch back and kill it quickly. So, in theory, you could carry on by swapping out an item for one runed with major or superior vigor? Obviously there would be a penalty in terms of energy and a stat, but is it doable?

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Avarre I can only say thanks for this build. It's given me an idea how to modify it to make farming ice imps easier. You know how to make a flexible build.

Avarre

Avarre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouse at Large
So, in theory, you could carry on by swapping out an item for one runed with major or superior vigor? Obviously there would be a penalty in terms of energy and a stat, but is it doable? With 15% dp -> remove focus -> 33hp
With 30% dp -> remove focus and one super rune -> 36hp
With 45% dp -> remove focus and two super runes -> eh 39 hp I'd suppose.

And so on