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TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 16:09 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordDeArnise

They did mention that it will be a PvP weekend. Both classes look very promising; guild leaders may just as well build a Paragon just for the feel of "leading" the battle. Dervishes seem to be somewhere between a tanking War and the high attack/low defense Sins. Imagine how they would fare battling in Cantha. And since we're getting early reports of the Dervishes' capabilities, don't you think we're going to see swarms of PvE mobs in Nightfall?

Wah! That's a very good observation. Yay giant mobs!!

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

18 Jul 2006 at 16:18 - 82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

I can't believe that they would be so stupid as to try and shoehorn 2 new classes into the game with each new chapter.

At least they're not going to bother trying to continually support every new class.

Chaser

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Dansville, N.Y.

Vx Nine

W/N

18 Jul 2006 at 16:18 - 83

Im still waiting for a martial arts profession.

This is going to be interesting

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 16:22 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaser

Im still waiting for a martial arts profession.

This is going to be interesting

Bah! Double ditto. I'm Wielding Zealous Diamond Encrusted Platinum Plated Brass Knuckles of Fist Mastery!

devils wraths

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

the fianna [fi]

E/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 16:26 - 85

what makes it sound better is it mentions new arenas on the site

mrcake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/N

18 Jul 2006 at 16:29 - 86

should be interesting, hope i dont have to delete a character to try out the new classes.. although it would give me a reason to kill my assassin....

come on anet stop teasing and at least release 1 screen shot of a new pve area .. just one......

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 16:35 - 87

Aha! What I just realized is that a Scythe on the Dervish will probably be the longer type of Scythe like the classic Grim Reaper wields since it says the Dervish has many skills that attack many enemies at once. If that's the case then it will prolly play similar to the spears/glaive type weapon I was hoping for. So though the Paragon has the wrong type of spear for me, the Dervish will be what it's all about. So basically: Yay for me!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcake

should be interesting, hope i dont have to delete a character to try out the new classes.. although it would give me a reason to kill my assassin....

come on anet stop teasing and at least release 1 screen shot of a new pve area .. just one......

Well they should have the ability to create an event account for the PvP weekend like they did last time. You won't get the skills permanently unlocked but if you don't mind that you can try out the new chars without having to lose an old one.

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 16:35 - 88

Oh, my, GOSH, i can be part warrior, part assassin, AND PART MONK! this is like a whammos wet dream

but back on topic, i can't wait, thanks for the info, i'm going to get nightfall, well, not unlike i wasn't gonna get it, but this has enticed me even more

Lucifer PVP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

W/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 16:52 - 89

Is it just me or does both new classes have the same models as a monk and elementalist with different armor.......

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

18 Jul 2006 at 16:55 - 90

Yep, they do.

/sigh
This means lots of more time trying to get Grandmaster Cartographer and skill capping :/
I dunno. I can't say I'm terribly excited about a class that seems like the embodiment of a Whammo, or a Rit/Earth Ele/Tactics shouts.
And all the new skills dammit

Alberic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

United States

[AB]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 16:57 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_eX

SCYTHE FIGHTERS WITH HOODS!

Best class ever.

Zasalamel ftw!

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 16:58 - 92

Yeh, they're still in beta it tho so i HOPE they change it.. and give us nice faces unlike those faces they gave for factions, i mean seriously we're supposed to be FIGHTING the afflicted, not being one.. arrgh, all my characters are strictly tyrian born, because i can't stand that and assassin and ritualist weren't enough reason to be canthan born,

[sarcasm]
but on another news new whammo skills for me, but i'll have to replace healing hand with somthing else :'(
[/sarcasm]
:P

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

18 Jul 2006 at 17:08 - 93

I like it already! Can't wait for these new classes.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

18 Jul 2006 at 17:15 - 94

The hooded Dervish = Pwn. I may have to delete my assassin.. Ahaha.

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

18 Jul 2006 at 17:17 - 95

AWSOME gonna play them both who needs warriors or assasins any more >_<

Jumping Is Uselss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

-... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-

18 Jul 2006 at 17:21 - 96

I cant wait for Nightfall. I wonder how the armors will look like?

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

18 Jul 2006 at 17:22 - 97

Hmm. "Commander" class. Tsk, it should have been a proper "bard" class. Mark my words - increase in idiocy and abuse in public PvE/PvP incoming. As if there aren't enough egotistical people blaming everyone else for when things go wrong already...

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 17:25 - 98

yeah... if i like dervish a lot more than my sin i think i'll get rid of him.. no wait i'll get rid of my warrior.

Yeah you can kinda pinpoint on those, like aeromancer gloves i think on the paragon male.

Heck the dervish female looks like a rit :P

Eh no biggy, i just hope they don't change change the male dervish character look much, dying that armor be so awesome, can you imagine that in black or something... awesome

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

18 Jul 2006 at 17:25 - 99

Interesting. Sounds like the Dervish will be inferior to the assassin in single opponent damage, but will be superior in damaging groups of folks. Probably will be much better suited to PvE than in PvP, from an initial glance, but who knows when the skills actually come out.

I can see the Paragon being nicely paired with a Monk or Ritualist primary/secondary. Monk/Paragon for pure support, and a Paragon/Ritualist to create your own army to attack from a distance with.

Although this is a bit stereotyped, I think Guild Wars will have a nice mix with these additions:

Melee-based: Warrior, Assassin, Dervish
Missle-based: Ranger, Elementalist, Necromancer
Support-based: Monk, Ritualist, Paragon, Mesmer

Not a bad frontline, midline, and backline, IMO.

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

18 Jul 2006 at 17:28 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberic

Zasalamel ftw!

RAWR

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

18 Jul 2006 at 17:29 - 101

This is pretty cool... although I forsee a problem right off the bat.

You're going to get a million Dervishes who think they're billy-badass and charging mobs full steem ahead.

Oh well, maybe it'll take some of the hate off of Assassins

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

18 Jul 2006 at 17:34 - 102

Not too excited about 2 more melee-ish classes, but anything new is a good thing. I wish that they had more info but it was good timing on their part... no more "I hate ANET" threads for now

And I still find it funny that people before speculated about a bare handed fighter just because the classes were shown without weapons...

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Jul 2006 at 17:35 - 103

omg i love the way the Paragon sounds and looks, im already in love with that class!

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 17:37 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtBatz

Okay, I'll ask it again

If your character can NEVER level, if the level of armour and weapons isn't increasing, if hences are maxed at 20

How are they supposed to increase the difficulty of PVE?

Are you saying that you find the pve in both factions and prophecies incredibly easy? If so, try a smaller party, you'll find the difficulty increases quite substantially.

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

18 Jul 2006 at 17:42 - 105

At least now there won't be a million Assassins running around with idiotic animu names.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

18 Jul 2006 at 17:45 - 106

Why does that ele have funny armor?

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 17:45 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar

RAWR

see page 2

Kareem

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Minnesota

Guildless & Looking

18 Jul 2006 at 17:46 - 108

Eh, as long as the new professions are not worse than the Assassin, I'll be happy..

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 17:46 - 109

In my opinion, both of these are way better than the assassin or ritualist, I cant wait to try.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 17:47 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rent

At least now there won't be a million Assassins running around with idiotic animu names.

Nope, now you'll have people going to google and looking up the names of the angelic / demonic host

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

18 Jul 2006 at 17:47 - 111

Quote:

At least now there won't be a million Assassins running around with idiotic animu names.

Your right there will be a million biblical names like Elijah and Hezikiah and Amos and Ezra and such.

I wonder if the armor for both the Dervish and Paragon will MAX at 70 like the assassin?

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

18 Jul 2006 at 17:53 - 112

nice choices for new classes! i can't wait to give it a go. i was hopeing for a new race though...that would have been interesting.

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

18 Jul 2006 at 17:55 - 113

they're both support roles so I'd bet the armor is 70

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 18:01 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

Your right there will be a million biblical names like Elijah and Hezikiah and Amos and Ezra and such.

I wonder if the armor for both the Dervish and Paragon will MAX at 70 like the assassin?

Maybe I'll name mine Jesus or Moses. :O
And Dervish will probably have 60 armor since its robes.
Paragon will probably be 70 since Anet wont want to replace tanks. Yet at least. D:<

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

18 Jul 2006 at 18:02 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtBatz

Oh jesus. I sure as hell am NOT deleting any of my level 20's. That's so fricking dumb of Anet if that's true.

Its a PvP preview event. If you were interested in PvP you'd have an extra slot to begin with. If they had a PvE event, then it would be dumb not to provide an extra slot or two.

But not very dumb.

SaucE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OgreSlayingKnife.com

[MEEP] Biscuit of Dewm

N/

18 Jul 2006 at 18:03 - 116

I like the dye combo on the Dervish Armor. I hope they come up with some better armor options though. I dont hate them, but I dont really like them either.

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 18:11 - 117

YAY! I'm so excited whew... i've never been interested in more fighting classes warrior assassin.. ranger is okay but these look exciting and will certainly add more varity ^^ I think this will break the cookie cutter build as they say.. with these two classes the mix of classes in a party could change significatly .. this of course depending on how they work. Not sure which one I'll try first... probably the one people are playing the least... that's why i made a ritualist and loved it...

I've been dying for information so i'm so happy to see... not if i could get a sneeky peek at an area... at least the beta test will be sooner rather than later ! Yay~ It's revived my GW interest some.

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

18 Jul 2006 at 18:13 - 118

I firmly believe...ANET jsut wanted to give me a good birthday present. Just like how you know, they're out to get you, yes you specifically, and make your life worse...they jsut happen to like me. : )

I'm thinking...Dirvish will be an Adrenal User, and Paragon will be energy based. I'm guessing that Paragon will have 3 pips of regen, and similar armor as a ranger. Dervish will have caster armor, and primary attribute will allow for the innate ability to evade attacks. This is my guess : )

Maybe I'll make one of each...

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

18 Jul 2006 at 18:16 - 119

*jumps around like a little school girl*

WOOOOO!!!!

I am liking them both, even tho I am a spellcaster-only sort of fellow, this has made my day also today

KazafES

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

18 Jul 2006 at 18:20 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtBatz

Why?

If the level and strength of the weapons doesn't increase, if the effectiveness of the armor doesn't incresae and if the henches aren't improved, how are you supposed to keep increasing the toughness of monsters in the game?

Factions had lots of level 28 mobs running around. If the players CANNOT increase in effectiveness, how are you going to increase the challenge level for Nightfall? Doesn't bother me if they raise the cap in the slightest, as long as it's balanced.

Do you see the promble if the strenght of weapons increase means all the item now will be unless.

I think they should let you have a 3rd job but u can only add half the att point in it also u can't bring 3rd job elite