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TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 20:56 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun

I'd have to agree. Most ppl play assasins like Warriors. They are ment to get in and get out. The only TP I see ppl do it to the enemy. Even the stupid Henchies TP away. I have seen some Assasins kick major butt when played right, unfortunately most ppl don't do that.

I just wanted to throw out a question here. Does anyone else think that Anet will begin spreading it's players too thin? There are certain areas that are already hard to get a PUG, if they add a new Chaper every 6 mo, soon it will be impossible! It's nice to have new chapters & such, but I don't think they are pulling in so many players that they make up for the spread.
Is it me or does Anet need a new buisness model soon? I mean, maybe paying to open different types of armor or weapons or something, but if they keep adding new Missions, they players will all diffuse over the maps. Not only that, but ppl will be locked into whatever chapers they have making some of the spread totally unable to connect. I dunno. I like new content & such, but the peeople need to be able to cplay together!

Spreading em too thin is definitely a major concern. Unless they do change their business model I don't see a way of avoiding it. Anet will just have to work super extra hard to make sure more and more ppl start loving (and keep loving) the games and fill up the districts. I haven't seen finding enough pp for a group, for missions at least, too hard to do when I've taken my chars back to prophecies, but of course I'm on the American servers where there are always a bajillion kiddos online.

When I switched my second account onto Europe for a little while, and this was even before factions came out, it was ridiculously hard to get a group for the lesser played missions. And when I did find a group I usually couldn't understand a thing they were saying

I can't imagine how hard it must be for European players now.

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

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18 Jul 2006 at 20:57 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Pips

I'm really excited.

I also hope we get new models for the new classes and the current pictures just use placeholder models.

My predictions on new skills:

Cafemonger - Obsessionation - 5/1/60 - Enchantment. For each hour you have been online (maximum 24), you gain +2% chance for the next 50..250 loot drops to be assigned to you.

And...the new skill for Dervishes to temporarily change into a god!

Woot! Southpark FTW!

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 20:58 - 203

Whats that gods name? I'd sacrafice some virgins for that hottie.

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 20:58 - 204

Build Ideas:
R/P and R/D: Expertise + Spear/Javalin throwing/Scythe slashing
P/W: The frontline commander with Tactic, "Charge!", "Retreat!"
N/D: The "Unholy" warrior. Reaping Souls with my scythe.
Mo/P: I'll smite you with my Spear of Light and my spear of steel.
D/A: I'm thinking something like the Archdevil in HoMM V

As for weapons:
I think...
- scythe going to be two-handed.
- Maybe slightly more range than hammer
- slightly less damage than hammer (15~32)
- Lots of skill that causes bleeding and deep wound.

Spear..
- two-handed
- Skill that allows it for armor penetration
- Same max damage as bow, higher min damage. (20~28)
- Normally a melee weapon, with skills that allows you to throw them
(I'm keep thinking it's going to be something like Javazon in Diablo 2)

.neuronster.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

My house.

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

E/Mo

18 Jul 2006 at 21:03 - 205

"LIEK ZOMG A SYTHE"

It's going to be hard to get into a group as a dervish, nonetheless it seems like a very cool class.

(until the simple-minded try to tank with them and blame the monk for their own foolish deaths)

eVeRt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

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18 Jul 2006 at 21:04 - 206

Just wondering, is there any sign of A-net using some Class suggestion idea's from this forum? Since alot of people put alot of work in those it would be hella cool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffyx

Whats that gods name? I'd sacrafice some virgins for that hottie.

That's god, South Park style!

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:06 - 207

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halc yon

These classes sound a lot like some of the concept classes suggested by these forum members.

The dervish class was proposed

and check out this concept that i had on a commander unit that uses shouts and stuff, similar to the paragon. is it just coincidence?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3025416

I remember seeing that concept class you posted there. Watch and see if they steal some of your ideas on skills there :P They should give you a big ol' in game trophy if they did. You just type /trophy and a godly statue falls from the sky in any city/outpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by eVeRt

Just wondering, is there any sign of A-net using some Class suggestion idea's from this forum? Since alot of people put alot of work in those it would be hella cool.

:P Check out the post I quoted. it was pasted on the last page.

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

18 Jul 2006 at 21:11 - 208

I reckon the Dervish's scythe will automaically strike foes adjacent to your target for half the damage from your normal attack.

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

18 Jul 2006 at 21:12 - 209

hmmm a dervish is a muslim monk. Odd name choice.

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 Jul 2006 at 21:13 - 210

First off, i want to start off with the charcter models, The armor models looks really nice for the both of them. As for the models them selfs, they might not be the offical version that we will see, but so fair i really like the way they both look. As for them being alot like other charcters classes, we will have to wait and see what their skills are. As for assassin, yep most people that play them suck. But their are some that are good at them. But nightfall sounds cool, can't wait till the 28th. WOOT!!

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

18 Jul 2006 at 21:14 - 211

wanted to add the name choice fits for anyone who doesn't have a lot of gold in the game hehe.

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

18 Jul 2006 at 21:15 - 212

"GLFM for Mission - NO DERVISHES"

I see the Assassin issue all over again with this class due to all the oh-so-morbid preteens having wet dreams over the thought of using a scythe as a weapon. I really wish the Dervish class used something else, oh well. I actually like the discription of the other class better, they just look horrible....

blah.

The Shadow

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Wait... I thought you knew!!!

Natural Stoned Killers

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:16 - 213

As an older player, I'm concerned...

I've been playing Propheicies campaign since mid-December.

I bought factions about a month after it was released.

I don't get all that much time to play (about 10 hours a week) due to my other responsibilities (job/wife/kids/etc.)

I have so many more fond memories of Prophecies than I ever will have of Factions. Factions seems to have been rushed, the character classes of Rit and 'Sin not truly fully developed (can you say no hand-to-hand combat with the 'Sin?). No replayable high-end farming areas such as ToPK or SF. I don't accept elite missions as those; they take quite a while to do successfully and require a ferry to get to. Also, when Factions came out, it was extremely buggy...

I understand that the Nightfall team has been in the works for close to a year (vs. 6 months for factions), but I'm concerned that Nightfall is going to be another short, underdeveloped game. As others have noticed, the character models are stolen from other professions (ain't broke, don't fix it), but they've had a year to at least try. They seem to have taken the dervish class from other games (let's try be original here). The Paragon class seems to be a combination of Warrior (shouts), Ranger (ranged/spear), and Rit or Monk (support). I understand that coming up with new classes, skills and overall ideas for characters isn't easy... so I say TAKE YOUR TIME ANET!!!

I was hoping to have the time to be able to take my Canthan characters completely through Tyria and vice-versa, but it looks as if I'm going to be very short of that goal (2 Canthan characters haven't even been to LA). I'm feeling like I'm rusing through Cantha because of the impending release of Nightfall. I still just think 6 months is just too soon...

All that said... I will buy nightfall, and I will play it. But, if Nightfall is just as underdeveloped as Factions, I'm going to be extremely disappointed.

I expect to get flamed for my opinion... but that's just what it is... mine

/endrant

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:23 - 214

Whirl Dervishes, Whirl!

Pictured above: A sweatshop full of Turkish Whirling Dervishes warm up their spins before they head out to farm Trolls for ebay gold.

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

18 Jul 2006 at 21:26 - 215

Possible storyline for Nightfall?

So all is quiet now that Shiro is dead and out Hero's have returned to rest on the outskirts of Lions Arch, in the safety of the Ascalon settlement.

THEN.....

Gwen shows up all grown up now (after many years, maybe 4) seeking the hero's of her youth. Much has changed in Elona as Evil in the form of the Fury, Darkness and others has come to the real world (Tyria Elona etc..) In search of something, or to conquer. Meanwhile the Sheppard’s of the Mists (INTRO'd in Factions) have also grown worried about the balance of the real world and the Mists spinning out of control. After all the Grasps not only kill in the physical they kill the spirits in the Mists as well. (GOTO ToPK for further details)

It is now up to the HERO's to stop the Darkness from spreading further into the real world and causing the world to spin completely out of control.

The HERO's realize they can't win of course and must Acend (again for the 3rd time) to understand what the Darkness is, seeing it, petition, whatever. Only by Ascending once again for the 3rd time, they can enter the world of the Mists in such a way they can take the battle to the Grasps.

question after I acend again and again am I acended yet or just think I am...

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

18 Jul 2006 at 21:26 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

Whirl Dervishes, Whirl!

Pictured above: A sweatshop full of Turkish Whirling Dervishes warm up their spins before they head out to farm Trolls for ebay gold.

Boui-La-La-La, I admit. Dervish is a odd name, I would've perfered Templar.

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

18 Jul 2006 at 21:34 - 217

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

Boui-La-La-La, I admit. Dervish is a odd name, I would've perfered Templar.

Nah, it's not so odd. There's a Magic card called Whirling Dervish, that gets +1/+1 for every creature it damages.

Sigh...I used to play way too much Magic >.<

Oh oh, and it has protection from black!

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:35 - 218

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

question after I acend again and again am I acended yet or just think I am...

I figure by Chapter 4 we'll all just be Super Saiyajins. Once you ascend 4 times you get the ability to go into beserk mode where you crush your foe with a flurry of long, drawn out super dialogue.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:38 - 219

I think that the new class, the "Paragon" is gonna be an awsome play.

I mean, Another way to play my favorite class! the monk!

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

18 Jul 2006 at 21:39 - 220

I have only one prayer for Nightfall. God, Allah, Vishnu, Buddha, Flying Spaghetti Monster, listen up:

Locational unlocking will be earned as in Factions; once unlocked, an area is accessible to all other characters without completing storyline missions.

TheMosesPHD, you're really working on that there post count, eh?

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

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18 Jul 2006 at 21:41 - 221

My thoughts...

Scythes rule, you don't, I want one, shut up, I win, GGNORMKTHNXBAIWTFBBQPWND!

paragon metal armor WILL have 80 AL like a warrior.... if it doesnt then I will be VERY suprised, even if they are a "supporting" class.

nikko83

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

18 Jul 2006 at 21:41 - 222

Hmm, those Dervish look strangely familiar.

Ohh, that's what that is, the Dervish think they're Zasalamel from Soul Caliber III

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:42 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjlr

Locational unlocking will be earned as in Factions; once unlocked, an area is accessible to all other characters without completing storyline missions.

That's in factions? I seem to have missed that...

The paragon better have 70-80 armor, just universal, and no more armor bonuses. That would still totally rock.

I can already see it. Dervishes harvesting corn...

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

18 Jul 2006 at 21:51 - 224

Hmmm, all I have to say is that the PvE had better be damn good. Ok, from a storyline point of view the Paragon is promising, being 'the guardian angel of the Elona people'. Hehe, fun taking then through the Crystal desert what with all those ghostly Elonians out there...

Bit dubious about ivory being used as a resource (if true) what with connotations to elephant slaughtering and all that.

Timing seems rather sudden and pretty short notice for the pvp weekend, good way of diverting attention from recent controversy I guess.

CK0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

18 Jul 2006 at 21:53 - 225

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikko83

Hmm, those Dervish look strangely familiar.

Ohh, that's what that is, the Dervish think they're Zasalamel from Soul Caliber III

That's how they get their "original" ideas so quick. I wonder what they will 'think' of next in CH4 ?

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 21:58 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

My thoughts...

Scythes rule, you don't, I want one, shut up, I win, GGNORMKTHNXBAIWTFBBQPWND!

paragon metal armor WILL have 80 AL like a warrior.... if it doesnt then I will be VERY suprised, even if they are a "supporting" class.

I sort of see both new classes at 70 AL. The Dervish is supposed to be up in the action there, but the paragon description's very first sentence describes it as not being a frontline fighter. It's also a ranged unit like a ranger so 80AL isn't really needed. Honestly I don't know if they'll ever make another class with 80 AL. I think high armor is the warrior's own little niche.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cljr

TheMosesPHD, you're really working on that there post count, eh?

Such accusations! :O

waiver

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

GAS alliance [2nd rated Luxon, 17mil]

18 Jul 2006 at 21:59 - 227

Storyline following the elonians and before their demise? :O

I might actually follow this one.

EDIT: SCYTHE. I'm totally dying my darvish's armor black. Pff.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:01 - 228

Yall win...The idea of Muslim warriors weilding scythes was created in 2005 with the release of that game.

I don't have to /sarcasm on that one.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

18 Jul 2006 at 22:07 - 229

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Yall win...The idea of Muslim warriors weilding scythes was created in 2005 with the release of that game.

I don't have to /sarcasm on that one.

Yep and the term "Whirling Dervish" was coined by Acclaim too.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:09 - 230

Hey everyone,

Got a new Guide for this up and stickyed at the top of the forum.

It's more or less a clone of this at the moment, but will update as things do on...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10006055

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:09 - 231

Lets open another can of worms and wonder how many character slots will be given for chapter 3 :X?

1 or 2? OR is A.net gunna give us a present and go against there:

chapter 1=4
chapter 1+2= 6
chapter 1+2+3= 7 or 8 OR maybe 9, but doubt due to character slots buying to be implemented.

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

18 Jul 2006 at 22:12 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjlr

I have only one prayer for Nightfall. God, Allah, Vishnu, Buddha, Flying Spaghetti Monster, listen up:

Locational unlocking will be earned as in Factions; once unlocked, an area is accessible to all other characters without completing storyline missions.

TheMosesPHD, you're really working on that there post count, eh?

Could you explain that becaue I really think I totally missed out there. It sounds like you're saying that all I have to do is unlock every city with one character, and then all my others can travel there without having to trek through the wilderness.

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:18 - 233

Quote:

Posted By: Cjlr
I have only one prayer for Nightfall. God, Allah, Vishnu, Buddha, Flying Spaghetti Monster, listen up:

Locational unlocking will be earned as in Factions; once unlocked, an area is accessible to all other characters without completing storyline missions.

Just plain no.

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:18 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiery

Lets open another can of worms and wonder how many character slots will be given for chapter 3 :X?

1 or 2? OR is A.net gunna give us a present and go against there:

chapter 1=4
chapter 1+2= 6
chapter 1+2+3= 7 or 8 OR maybe 9, but doubt due to character slots buying to be implemented.

I'm thinkin it'll be +2 per merged chapter. Since they're always talking about Guild Wars as a game where you don't need to buy all expansions, it would seem sort of strange to sell one option that gives you +2, then another option that only gives you +1 to slots. That is unless ANet has become uber greedy and decided to make us rely on buying slots.

I'll tell you one thing though: they better start giving us more storage expansions per chapter like they did with the crafting materials and factions. Storage is already pushing it with 5-6 PvE chars and 7-8 PvE chars with only 20 slots in storage will be ridiculous.

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:20 - 235

temporarily look like a god? shit yes, I want to be like, balthazar or something. Just rip shit up.

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

W/E

18 Jul 2006 at 22:22 - 236

Hmm I bet the paragon will become a real hit in pvp.

moo moo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

[WET]

Me/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:29 - 237

I hope the Angel Fissure has Wing's WOOT. Now that would be badass, like those pics of Aion. Im happy so far about the 2 new prof. Seems like the shape shifter thingy will be the new popular prof.

victo bei

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Little Nutter [PWN]

18 Jul 2006 at 22:30 - 238

Honestly, i think guild wars' first chapter is the best, and let me guess... the 3rd chapter is gonna be even worse then faction.. How good can it be if anet only spend few months on making it, everything is prob. Recycled?

im very disappointed in anet after got randomly banned for a week, that stupid event and also that update, which they changed some warrior's basic stuff (all dmg reduction goes for phy only).now warriors just got a lot SUCKER, and the bonus item from Gw game of the yr edition is more powerful then those already in game -> should i buy the game again and start over? This is just sordid

Don’t bother quote stuff i said.. im not gonna read it

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 Jul 2006 at 22:31 - 239

Well you gotta take in effect that Nightfall has been in the works since last year yearly this year? I don't know, but it should be intersting to find out more information about it.

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

18 Jul 2006 at 22:38 - 240

So now we know about the two new classes...

COOL...

SO do we get a Horse or no?

I SO WAN"T A HORSE....