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Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

18 Jul 2006 at 22:39 - 241

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Originally Posted by victo bei

Honestly, i think guild wars' first chapter is the best, and let me guess... the 3rd chapter is gonna be even worse then faction.. How good can it be if anet only spend few months on making it, everything is prob. Recycled?

You realize that they have several different teams working on different chapters right? And that it's not just a "few months" working on each chapter but at least a year?

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Don’t bother quote stuff i said.. im not gonna read it

Im quoting and responding to you anyway so that ignorance doesnt spread even more...

Clinically Proven

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

[MMAD]

18 Jul 2006 at 22:42 - 242

Looks awersome

I'm so going to get a Paragon

shadow ranger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

E/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:46 - 243

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

So now we know about the two new classes...

COOL...

SO do we get a Horse or no?

I SO WAN"T A HORSE....

No. ;-\

Dervish looks kinda cool, glad i made that pvp char called Last Right now.

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

18 Jul 2006 at 22:47 - 244

LFG - R/D with pet Gator, Chopper

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

18 Jul 2006 at 22:53 - 245

I suspect the dervish will have 80 al +20 vs ele

I also suspect we will see by the slot sales before then. I'm not deleting anyone for this or the PvE event.

Guild Terror

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

18 Jul 2006 at 23:08 - 246

what is with the hate with sins and Rit...

sins are the best one man killer when player proper(pvp)...but in pve... there underpowred

Rit's only good use is the sprit spamming, great for prot, but its other uses are limited

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

18 Jul 2006 at 23:37 - 247

Surprised that in all these pages noone has mentioned this..
Paragon Armor=White FRICKIN Mantle OH YEAH!
Dervish Armor=semi Shining Blade-esque
instead everyone is like "Zomg they look like eles, Anet suxxorz." tut tut tut, oh and every class Anet makes is going to look like a rip off, because guess how many RPGs with different classes have already been made? ALOT. Just because some other game has made the clas doesn' mean, "ZOMG Anet has no imagination." It's just like some person trying to go and say they created a new color, when every single color in the spectrum has been found,(this is of course only to my knowledge)

I do worry about all the idiots moving to the Dervish class, but I like it, it gives me a challenge, and it takes some of the heat off of my sinny poo.
I love the turning into a God thing

, they of course aren't going to make that too unstoppable tho...(I hope) I just love the idea of walking into a mob with a monk in tow and just swinging away, then when things start going wrong(if they do) it's GOD TIME!

Just some of my thoughts...

saneo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

18 Jul 2006 at 23:46 - 248

dervish looks awesome, paragon's chest piece looks romanesque, but i don't care for kilt, looks like he stole his elementalist sister's aeromancer.

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

18 Jul 2006 at 23:48 - 249

The Temple of Anubis, newest place to farm.

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

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18 Jul 2006 at 23:48 - 250

I hope ANet doesn't continue putting locked gates in the next chapter, the african theme provides many nice possibilities for wide, open PvE landscapes that are worthy of exploring. The classes also seem interesting (IMO better than Factions chars when the info was released), so I think the PvE portion has lots of potential, let's just hope it manifests itself.

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

18 Jul 2006 at 23:48 - 251

There is also something that I though of. All the recent changes may to bring the game inline for chapt 3.

Enhanced range of shouts and rewriting of warrior armor.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

18 Jul 2006 at 23:49 - 252

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markaedw

I suspect the dervish will have 80 al +20 vs ele

I also suspect we will see by the slot sales before then. I'm not deleting anyone for this or the PvE event.

I don't think it will be that high - I bet it will be very similar to the assassin's armor (it's freaking robes, after all), and that his main defense will be stances (i.e. whirling defense, anyone?)...

Stryker Wild

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Arcanic Lords of Ambivalence

A/R

18 Jul 2006 at 23:57 - 253

The Dervish looks like it's going to be a powerhouse for PvE and the Paragon looks like it will be the new addition to every build for PvP.

The Dervish looks like it might be too balanced for PvP and have more power as a farmer or tanker.
The Paragon seems to be the character that every PvP team will want to bring along to gather that edge over the other team.

Here's what I'm hoping for...

The Dervish becomes an AoE melee character where all of its attacks do damage to characters in the vicinity.

The Assassin seems to get nerfed where it's never been strong in the first place... give the assassin some more skills to make it a powerhouse. Maybe, make the Dervish have a bad quality about it that the Assassins can take advantage of.

I'd love to see better use of pets. Pets are worse then the NPCs, often getting blocked by the character controlling them or delaying their attack. Increase the ability of pets, and possibly allow the pets to have a chance at inflicting various conditions depending on the pet.

Spear-throwing Paragons? I love the idea of spear-throwing, but for some reason, I have a feeling they will not implement their spear-throwing too much. They seem like they will be more of a support character than an attack character, and that it will be better for them to hold a magical item which increases energy than a spear. I hope they have good spear skills to allow option on playstyle.

And finally, we can all pretty much guess the Dervish's dance emote. I mean, there's a dance group and religion based on the Whirling Dervishes. Basically, they'll probably spin and spin and spin some more for their dance.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

19 Jul 2006 at 00:03 - 254

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Originally Posted by Claire Wolf

I'm liking the new classes and such, but I'm worried about how fast these campaigns are being released. Unless you spend every day on GW grinding on through missions, there is no way you would be able to enjoy the game. Only one or two characters that have finished the game would go onto the next one, leaving the other characters further behind.

Thats the exact point of guildwars though, you don't need to have every character finish every last mission. Lets say you have all 3 chapters, but none of the ele skills / elites from factions appeal to you, why bring your ele through factions then? You could just as easily skip factions and go straight to nightfall with your ele. There is no rule anywhere that says every character you own must finish every mission. This is what makes Guildwars so good, months from now you could take you character from chapter 6 and decide to bring them to Tyria and beat up the bad ole lich. The game will be fairly fresh and you might have to come up with new ways to deal with old problems, such as frostgate

Random Nonsense

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Illicit Awakening [iA]

Mo/Me

19 Jul 2006 at 00:07 - 255

I think the Armor on the two Nightfall Professions looks good. However, I think that there skills might be annoying in PvP, and I'm not liking this to much. I have no desire to play the two new Nightfall Professions, and if they plan on coming out with two new professions every 6 months that is a horrible idea. Thank you ex-Diablo people for Hellgate:London (which got numerous awards at E3.)

Arena Net should add Zodiac Armor, or some type of armor where you can use Rubies and Sapphires.

They also need to open up a new PvE realm (statue) which I seriously thought they were going to add when Factions was released. I thought I read somewhere they are working on this now.

I think the PvE part of Factions is piss poor. I just hope the PvE in Nightfall is good, and it's like Chapter 1. Chapter 1 was good, and fun.

They need to quit nerfing skills that don't need to be nerfed.

It's going on Mid July, where are my $9.99 slots? I bet they won't even be available until September.

Guild Wars is going to be so deluded, *sigh.*

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

19 Jul 2006 at 00:08 - 256

Let's see..
Dervish is another melee character with obviously poor defense. Crap.
Paragon looks to be the Captain class from LotR:O, well at least we get another ranged character, I would be interested to see where it throws spears from..

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

19 Jul 2006 at 00:16 - 257

I'd love to know if ANet plans on allowing two extra slots for this expansion as well (if you link accounts)....

That might put a crimp into those that are planning on purchasing extra slots when they come available.

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

19 Jul 2006 at 00:18 - 258

I can see good W/P and D/Mo coming up...

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

19 Jul 2006 at 00:22 - 259

If they are anything like Sin/Rits I'm going to be disappointed.

Sin/Rits have 1 bar that you can play in PvP and really no other choices. These classes seem more diverse than Sin/Rits so we'll see.

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

19 Jul 2006 at 00:25 - 260

Even with the 2 slots from chaptter 3 you are going to be 2 short.

Stryker Wild

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Arcanic Lords of Ambivalence

A/R

19 Jul 2006 at 00:32 - 261

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Nonsense

Arena Net should add Zodiac Armor, or some type of armor where you can use Rubies and Sapphires.

I think I read on GameSpot that the Paragons armor is going to use Mother of Pearl and Ivory.

On a side note...

Do you think Nightfall will mean a change of day/night in the GW world? I'd love to see missions have completely different enemies whether they're performed in the day or night.

I would love to see IWAY nerfed, but these two new characters seem to only enhance IWAY. Shouts are only going to make IWAY stronger, not weaker. Please nerf IWAY ArenaNet!

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

19 Jul 2006 at 00:40 - 262

a new game isnt all that bad as long as storage gets a major overhaul. it was nice to get a materials panel added to storage but with 6 characters now, even the 250 max isnt enough for some stuff. there needs to be more general slots, materials need to be taken up to 500 at a minimum and we need a armor and weapon panel added to storage too. increase the bags and backpack by 5 slots each if they refuse to increase the actuall storage. also with 2 more professions maybe an increase to the party size by 2 would be nice. also i hope they issue preview keys as i dont have spare slots to use either

saneo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

19 Jul 2006 at 00:42 - 263

maybe instead of them just upping the max on materials in storage, you could buy more space, another 250 of everything for another 50 gold or something.

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

19 Jul 2006 at 00:45 - 264

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Frost

a new game isnt all that bad as long as storage gets a major overhaul. it was nice to get a materials panel added to storage but with 6 characters now, even the 250 max isnt enough for some stuff. there needs to be more general slots, materials need to be taken up to 500 at a minimum and we need a armor and weapon panel added to storage too. increase the bags and backpack by 5 slots each if they refuse to increase the actuall storage. also with 2 more professions maybe an increase to the party size by 2 would be nice. also i hope they issue preview keys as i dont have spare slots to use either

I agree, I am in need of more storage badly, The material slots are really nice though, But i think they should add more regular slots.

kagy600

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

[KOR] Kights of the Reich

19 Jul 2006 at 00:50 - 265

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markaedw

I suspect the dervish will have 80 al +20 vs ele

I also suspect we will see by the slot sales before then. I'm not deleting anyone for this or the PvE event.

As someone else said maybe not as high armor but I deffinity think that it will be +x vs ele.

Also I feel that the warrior armor and shields were modified for this class.

These delvish i beleive will have armor and/or shields with -# elemental and +armor vs ele.

Just speculation

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

19 Jul 2006 at 00:52 - 266

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

Even with the 2 slots from chaptter 3 you are going to be 2 short.

That's ok slots will be available before Nightfalls comes out.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

19 Jul 2006 at 01:01 - 267

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjlr

Locational unlocking will be earned as in Factions; but once unlocked one a single character, an area is accessible to all other characters without completing storyline missions.

Just in case I was misunderstood, I've clarified myself...

Sheesh, you people. I thought the conditionality of it was well-expressed. But then,

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Originally Posted by "THE BASIC LAWS OF HUMAN STUPIDITY" by Carlo M. Cipolla

Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.

golem bigstick

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Elite Rifle Squad Faction

W/

19 Jul 2006 at 01:06 - 268

ok first off i love the concept of these 2 classes alot more than the factions ones. i really hope they utilize the various combos that seem to be hinted at.

that said my main point was on dances. i think the male paragon should have jays dance from clerks and possibly the upcoming clerks 2. that would be freaking funny to see a dance from one of the funniest movies ever made put into the game. please agree with me on this!

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

19 Jul 2006 at 01:09 - 269

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

You actually think people left, LOL!

Actually, yah... a lot of people have left, a lot of my friends are leaving. Not a "thats it, im quitting gw" and they're back in two weeks, really really left.

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

19 Jul 2006 at 01:24 - 270

Ranger all ready have the best elemetal protection in the game. Rangers shouldn't tank, the Dervish melee weapons are close quarters, even with protection builds base 70 is armor is not enough.

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

19 Jul 2006 at 01:33 - 271

Yeah, sadly, I might be bailing out on this game when NWN2 comes out. Making your own weapon and character models FTW!
So I wouldn't be at all suprised to find out that people really are leaving.

Indian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

[SWIM]/[HooD]/[RFE]

Me/

19 Jul 2006 at 01:37 - 272

nice, very nice indeed

keep it up! Dev's

i was sorta losing interest in GW, but this announcement has gained more interest inside me. looking forward to try the event.

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

19 Jul 2006 at 01:39 - 273

i actually want people to leave so we get these whiners off the forums. Anet is great and they will keep building up their fans. Anet don't worry you doing a great job.

Wicked Shadow

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gamerz Unlimited [GU]

N/

19 Jul 2006 at 01:49 - 274

Finally, my dreams of a scythe-wielding necromancer of doom shall be realized! *ominous laughter*
Dervish look awesome, but I'm skeptical about how paragons are another support class. I guess it makes sense if ritualists and assassins can't be carried over.

ayanaftw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

[MOJO]

Me/

19 Jul 2006 at 02:03 - 275

amazon and paladin woot -_-

Urban_Nomad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

3rd Era

R/Me

19 Jul 2006 at 02:06 - 276

Anet has already said that not every chapter will bring new professions, so I wouldn't worry too much about deavaluing professions.

As for these new ones, I think they're great. Amazing, really.

The paragon seems more greek than African to me, however.

Paragon = Achilles, godlike general, commanding an army from the rear, throwing spears, very greek, but very nice.

Dervish dyed black = Medieval Darth Maul, plaing and simple ;-)

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

19 Jul 2006 at 02:21 - 277

Quote:

Originally Posted by talon

ZOMG. This is gonna pwn so hardcore

If so, Anet will probably nerf it soon!

primal98

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Jul 2006 at 02:21 - 278

1) Both classes sound BADASS
2) Both classes look like CRAP

that being said, forgive me allmighty devs for even beginning to doubt your infitinite wisdome :P Yay beta event ^_^

~prime

Matix411

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ontario

19 Jul 2006 at 02:37 - 279

Oh man, both professions look so rad.
The chest piece on the Paragon male looks pretty awsome too.

As much as I feel I'm losing a bit of interest in the games, it's not enough to make me leave entirely. I'll stick around for Chapter 3. They claim it's supposed to be a chapter 'like no Guild War player has ever seen." Well, let's hope for once they stick to their words.

Regardless.

I want this game now.
Gahh.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

19 Jul 2006 at 02:40 - 280

THe paragon Male looks like a white mantle leader. woot white mantle FTW