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Frank Dudenstein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chapter 2 has districts full of Tank-assins that make it all but impossible for legitimate assassins to get into groups and get through the dang game....

Great to see chapter 3 will be full of Tank-ervishes doing the same thing!!!

Oh well, I guess it's a Paragon for me - CAN'T WAIT

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I said if Anet keep adding new classes every chapter, it will only get worse. I think I will be right.

What I wanted to see in a chapter 3 preview is that they're adding good, fun to play new PvE areas, a few new skills for the existing classes, and some new types of PvP. Instead we get more gimmick classes that will ruin balance and have far too many of, and are just remixes of existing classes.

linh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

This coming preview weekend and the ability to buy more char slots must be linked together

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

I am excited and can't wait to play a Dervish. I can see that Wa/De will be popular but have a feeling they will no hold up, but will have to see. I'm already gathering an idea for mine as we speak.

TheUndertaker

TheUndertaker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I'm assuming you mean Assassins who think they are tanks. Not W/As. And you are probably right. But Wammos make it tough for real tanks to get through the game also.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

wow new class that make ritualists and assassins looked weak! I can't wait to try out both class.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

is it just me, or is this a PERFECT time to release buyable charachter slots?
for those of you who shout "anet held out on us just to make money"
i shout back at you "DUH."
No new slots available for preview, but you can either use your own account or get a temporary one. if you are full, but want your own? buy one!
brilliant timing, and a great wat to boost sales of the slots.

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

I'm excited for the Dervish and can't wait. Far as more classes coming I lvoe it, the fear of it is unfound. The only reaosn would lost of power in PvP. I think people are afraid that thier 4-year old Wa/Mo will lsoe thier edge and PvP and are afraid of the competion being spiced up. Thier will never be a loss of balance, such things were thought with the Assassin and Ritualist. But if anyone has cared to noticed they found thier palce in the ranks of PvP/PvE/AB.

I love the Devish and have my ideas already ocming togather. Far as thier Primary I think an attack evasion may be it or prehaps the ability to restore health after the death of a foe cause they apper to be like reapers.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Why are so many of you already making judgements against this? Why aren't all of you excited to the new possiblites that have arisen once more?

No no, lets all nag already shall we? By the gods, you all need to pull your finger out of where ever you put it up, and stop smelling the goods cause your going to miss alot of this game all over again.

I'm excited on the prospect of everything. This is going to give everyone more defintion to play people now. But no no, lets nag!

Perhaps by chapter 5 we wont have any new classes, as I hope we have this epic game where we have to help the Gods, or stop some evil god from taking back his place from Grenth. By that time, we'll have....6 new professions and 6 Core professions with countless tactics and possiblities and flavor for a superb game.

Lets hold our judgements for now everyone, and just be excited. I mean c'mon, we're getting a preview event already! That alone will be cool.

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth`
I said if Anet keep adding new classes every chapter, it will only get worse. I think I will be right.

What I wanted to see in a chapter 3 preview is that they're adding good, fun to play new PvE areas, a few new skills for the existing classes, and some new types of PvP. Instead we get more gimmick classes that will ruin balance and have far too many of, and are just remixes of existing classes.
Please tell me how you already know that:
-Nightfall will have no fun-to-play PvE areas?
-Nightfall will have no new PvP types?
-Nightfall's new classes will ruin GW balance?

It's sometimes fun to whine and complain, but as they say, "assuming only makes an ass out of you and me".

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005



FOR THOSE WITHOUT EMPTY SLOTS WHO ARE WORRIED

remember those *temp* accounts they had for Factions events?

same here


YOU DONT HAVE TO DELETE TO ENJOY/TRY

seanedsw28

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

they are definitely have potential, but A-net is going to have to pony up more slots or either:
1. generate slots for the preview event, and lock them when done
2. release single slots (of which I will buy 1)

Well now we now why warrior stances were adjusted to "ear shot"

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Why are so many of you already making judgements against this? Why aren't all of you excited to the new possiblites that have arisen once more?

No no, lets all nag already shall we? By the gods, you all need to pull your finger out of where ever you put it up, and stop smelling the goods cause your going to miss alot of this game all over again.

I'm excited on the prospect of everything. This is going to give everyone more defintion to play people now. But no no, lets nag!

Perhaps by chapter 5 we wont have any new classes, as I hope we have this epic game where we have to help the Gods, or stop some evil god from taking back his place from Grenth. By that time, we'll have....6 new professions and 6 Core professions with countless tactics and possiblities and flavor for a superb game.

Lets hold our judgements for now everyone, and just be excited. I mean c'mon, we're getting a preview event already! That alone will be cool.
Probably because people dont wan't another gimped pve Assassin class. From what I take in the opinions of most people of the factions classes are pretty sour. You don't see many of them in your groups even in cantha. They really have no spot in pve. I was dissapointed with both classes in factions though I made both classes I didn't enjoy either to much. Most people probably feel the same way because I see this all over the forums. People dont wan't another class created for a position that does not need to be filled.

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

it really looks like an elementalist, anyway finally spears in gw and also i hope there will be egyptian areas

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Unless a Wa/Mo is good an Assassin can drop em quickly, I've seen more then a dozen times and will continue to see it. I think the two new classes will make Warriors work harder to stay the max damage maker and dealer.

Rent

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

So you already know how much armor Dervishes are going to have? Do tell.

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

I can that we will be in the Egypt likeplace alot if you havn't noticed from the cloths and classes. They look very much like people in hyrophics(sp?).

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Gotta love the people who are already complaining just by judging a short preview on two classes. Pre-emptive complaining is funny.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

hehe - im freaking out!! I feel like i did when they first annouced factions. Im very excited!! and everyone is right, it would be a perfect time to allow us to buy the character slots, ive been wanting that to come along anyways

And for those who are saying things like...they shouldnt keep adding character classes and such, well would you really want a new game, and just have to use the level 20 characters you already have? I wouldn't, I want to both make new ones, and use the ones i have - i have very much enjoyed making brand new characters in factions and leveling them up!

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

... Looks like the built the new professions with PvE in mind only...

Guess only time will tell. Might be some good obscure skills to use as a secondary.

I can't imagine a wammo clone with AoE attacks being a dominant PvP force. Paragons look alright I guess, but that depends soley on how powerful their shouts are.

Plix

Plix

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rent
So you already know how much armor Dervishes are going to have? Do tell.
*clap for Rent*

I dont anything can be said definitly until at least the PvP event. We just have n o choice but to wait until then and hope for the best.

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

I'm not saying that I know at all, and saying that was extremely pointless. I just feel that with the said abilites that two new classes will have will make warrior work harder. Already a ranger with holy spells can drop a warrior so I can only imagen what a character made to fight in hordes can do.

temp

temp

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

my bedroom

Band Of Death UK

i must say they look and sound ace... BUT i think its too soon, i havent even completed factions with my rit yet, sheesh calm down :P

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth`
I said if Anet keep adding new classes every chapter, it will only get worse. I think I will be right.

What I wanted to see in a chapter 3 preview is that they're adding good, fun to play new PvE areas, a few new skills for the existing classes, and some new types of PvP. Instead we get more gimmick classes that will ruin balance and have far too many of, and are just remixes of existing classes.
You continue to dazzle with your brilliant posts. I mean, you're right. They should never add existing classes because it's impossible to balance right? They shouldnt add new skills because that will provide balance issues too. Hell, they should never add anything new because it's too hard to balance. Brilliant!

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

The thing is..Assassin's aren't designed to tank...

Dervishes from the sneak peek DO seem to be tanks...It says basically instead of good armor, they will have Defensive Enchantments and such to keep up with warriors on the front line. But front line soldiers none the less.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
You continue to dazzle with your brilliant posts. I mean, you're right. They should never add existing classes because it's impossible to balance right? They shouldnt add new skills because that will provide balance issues too. Hell, they should never add anything new because it's too hard to balance. Brilliant!
couldn't have said that better myself /cheer!

Leon_Ux-ixen

Leon_Ux-ixen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

America, how I dispise it...

Order Of The Mystic Phoenix

R/Mo

Never said they were I just said they ould drop unexperinced tanks. Thier only good for one-on-one battle if they attack a group they dead.

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Yes, what an awesome PvP profession a wammo with AoE attacks will make...

/sarcasm

Reks

Reks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/P

The new professions look and sound most interesting. I'd like to know how well they'd fit into PvP/PvE, especially for the capabilities of a Warrior vs. Dervish as a frontline person. :0

Then again, I'm also sad for my Assassin, who may(read: just guessing) have little reason to go on to Chapter 3 with the addition of another Melee class.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

The thing is..Assassin's aren't designed to tank...

Dervishes from the sneak peek DO seem to be tanks...It says basically instead of good armor, they will have Defensive Enchantments and such to keep up with warriors on the front line. But front line soldiers none the less.

Sir Jameson

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Order of the Ascended

D/A

We'll just have to see if Nightfall adds more character slots to our accounts, otherwise i might have to delete a character

The Primeval King

The Primeval King

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Theres A Frog On My [Cape]

W/

Anet is genious. Doubting their intelligience is like doubting your wammo's ability to be fat and annoying. They didn't ruin the balance at all with the assasin or ritualist. They just implemented new ideas to make guild wars more fun and entertaining. These new classes won't ruin the 'balance' at all. They just change the state of guild wars a little so there are more options for how you want to play. Sick of your old ranger? Make a Paragon and throw stuff. Tired of only being able to hit one person at a time with your assasin? Bam! Dervish! Anet is just broadening the ways of how to play guild wars while having fun at the same time.

Bibblenorn

Bibblenorn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Miendrak'el Myrth [MeM]

I have a bit of a worry about new expansions. I know this probably has been brought up before though. Is the player base expanding at a similar rate to the expansion of PvE areas? I recently ran a character (my warrior) through Tyria. She had been sitting in Ascalon for 10 months. Alot of the mission towns were darned near deserted. Trying to get through the Crystal Desert took 4 days instead of the 1 it should have taken. With the release of new expansions, will this problem get worse?

All I can say is that I am thankful to my guild. Without them, I might never have completed several missions.

Also, don't get me wrong, I am excited about the release of Nightfall. I am a packrat at heart, and all the new items! *drool* Ivory and Motherofpearl.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

I highly doubt that Anet would make a game that is going to throw everything out of balance -_-

They got us all hooked on the chapter 1, then they got us all hooked on chapter 2, My guess is that they want to and will continue to do this.

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

I can bet about almost anything when Nighfall will go out, We'll see complaint about that like Faction before when it came out. Off course I will try these profession, but let not be too hasty to them and judge like hell if you dont like them (Like before).

It's just a thing I wanted to ask it because I know this is what will happen too.




...... I can't wait to test them anyway

danakin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Houghton, MI

Northern Brethren

E/Me

I would assume that the models would be changed for the final release. Most betas are not full and complete. We can only hope that we get different models.

However, I am glad we get to finally head to Elona. It narrows down the list of Chapter 4 locales to Orr and, um , the Mists? Seriously, they are running out of places to go to. New lore will have to be introduced if they expect to continue the series with future chapters.

There is a Digg story linked to the announcement of Nightfall at http://digg.com/gaming_news/Guild_Wa...fall_Announced It would be neat if Guildwars made the front page, just to rival all of the WoW stories.

Domino

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

Enchantments won't you you any good when mobs spam enchant removal like nobody's business.

Warriors are the only tanks, bottom line. I think Dervishes will suffer the same hate as Assassins do.

Hopefully some of these tanking assassins will delete their characters, and make Dervishes... so the decent assassins can start the slow process of rebuilding our reputation.

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
Gotta love the people who are already complaining just by judging a short preview on two classes. Pre-emptive complaining is funny.
So is preemptive "OMG!!!! I'm so excited, gotta try these classes out!!!!! They own!!!!!" I was excited about assassins and look what happened there. So I'm not going to get excited or complain until I've actually had a chance to try these professions out. They could turn out to be the best professions ever, or they could suck. We'll see....

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino
Enchantments won't you you any good when mobs spam enchant removal like nobody's business.

Warriors are the only tanks, bottom line. I think Dervishes will suffer the same hate as Assassins do.

Hopefully some of these tanking assassins will delete their characters, and make Dervishes... so the decent assassins can start the slow process of rebuilding our reputation.
You can't "spam" enchantment removal...Alot of PvE areas dont even have it, and most PvP teams just dont bring it, or the mesmer has 1-2 of them, and they have Hellish Recharges or costs.

Also.."The profession's most powerful ability, however, is to temporarily transform into the physical embodiment of a god."

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
they will have Defensive Enchantments and such to keep up with warriors on the front line.
Enchantments ftl, make an earth ele if you wanna rely on enchants to tank, it just doesn't work.