Ch3 Storyline Revealed!

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

The customizable henchmen and HvH is what I'm looking forward to and interested in, but I don't want to get my hopes up yet. Though, it's very exciting to know. Just got to wait and see.

I can't wait to explore Elona, though.

Saix The Spartan

Saix The Spartan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

A/

300 new skills 250 of them duplicates.

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.


This is the what I have been Waiting for. Build your team, Sculpt it to your will. Then send your men in against the others. Test Builds, conquer others builds. Be the battle. I sooo can not wait for this!!! The battle is won before you even enter battle. Oh man... This is going to be AWESOME.

My henchies are better then yours!!! I can not wait.

I can not wait.

I can not wait.

PLEASE let this be in the PVP Preview event this weekend!!!!

Quantum Duck

Quantum Duck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Err7

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saix The Spartan
300 new skills 250 of them duplicates.
Lets go with 300 new skills and 30 duplicates (330 skills learnable skills on the list total), just like last time. 75 each for the new guys, 15 new standard skills for the core guys, 10 new elites for the core guys, and 5 duplicates of non core standard skills for the core guys.

I will be very surprised if it isn't exactly like Factions in this regard.

Overnite

Overnite

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex

• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.
I always thought Guild Wars was an online single player game...

Suddenly, the evil paladins and blue aliens don't look so bad...

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?c...ct%5Fid=646706


When a corrupt ruler summons the power of an outcast god and infects the land with a creeping darkness, it will take a band of heroes to save Elona. Guild Wars Nightfall is the roleplaying game gamers have been waiting for – an intimate, heroic experience where your decisions shape your personal game experience and your customizable party becomes an extension of your character. In this third campaign in the award-winning Guild Wars® universe, this is Guild Wars® like you've never seen before. With more than two million copies sold worldwide, Guild Wars® is the award-winning epic roleplaying game that revolutionized online gaming with its free gameplay.
Wait, wait, wait. Does this mean that the zones condition sbased on what you did in them?

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

looks to be well worth the price, hell, a new continent with customizeable hench is worth it alone.

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ischuros
I wonder if we'll have to pay to upgrade Henchmans armour/weapons, and if they're 'dynamic/unique' to us, like your pet, they level up with you and you get like level 3 henchies to start and then by using them you get higher level henchies.
It looks to me like all classes get customizable henchman pets. I only hope they give *real* pets better AI and controls, too.

Customizable henchmen sound like a wonderful money sink -- it will also take a lot of "stuff" out of circulation, as people start equiping their pet henchmen.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenrath
Certainly sounds a bit bigger than Factions, hope it's a bit more like Prophecies (at least the PvE bit)

Noticed some of the bits have long been suggested by the community (commands for henchies). I wonder if older chapter owners will benefit from that or will they miss out again like the storage thing...
Hasnt ANet already come out and said thats the way theyre doing it? Basically, that the stuff we ask for for months will be available in new chapters only(Good business decision. I dont like it at all, but understand it.).
The storyline now, its "sort of" like PoP2,(never played it, never seemed interesting), in PoP2, theres ONE guy, with 2 personalities, in Nightfall, a guy summons an evil god's power, and then the trouble starts. As to the other stuff...
• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.
Bout time! I hated being about 3-4 lvls higher than henchies. If they wanted hechies(and players) to be close to henchie lvl at certain areas, they should have been "locked" from the begining(wouldve also prevented "running"), believe it when I see it, Would be nice to at last be able to give appropriate skills for an area
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• Two new professions: The Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior and The Paragon, the guardian angels of the Elonian people.
Should be interesting to see skills

• 300 new skills.
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• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.

Lot of places to see, like it

RuPee

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

NICE! i finally become my inner fascist and i take control of every aspect of an npc's life! muahahahahaha.

seriously tho the HvH concept looks promising. now people will have to come up with completely original pvp team builds.

[FnG] Lazz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Fun 'n' Games

W/Mo

First time I've posted on here in a while. This is the first time I've heard about Nightfall and one thing I must say - judging by the few pictures that are released, Im not particularly impressed with the character graphics.

I know games shouldn't necessarily be judged on graphics but compared to other games that are coming out around the same time, its graphics will seem inferior and judging by the characters, they don't seem to have improved an awful lot from the origional GW.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Moved to GW: NightFall.

CHUIU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Team Legacy

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Actually each core class got 30 skills in factions.

Thats including the copies.

Without the copies, its 25.
Ah true! Thanks for the correction.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
They don't have to stick with the same skill numbers as Factions, ya know...

70 Dervish
70 Paragon
20 x 8 current professions
300

Fat chance. This is a standalone expansion just like factions. At the most we will see enemies as assassin/ritualist with the potential for some new greens but they won't add skills to the set. They may add skills to factions with a later update though (equivalent of Sorrows Furnace to Guild Wars).

Llednar

Llednar

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

In your closet.

Steve Erwin wants a [Rez]

W/E

Nightfall seems wonderful, it will be interesting to see how the whole custom henchmen thing will turn out...

With enough manipulation and knowledge of the AI's I'm sure someone could fashion a spike team out of the henchmen.

Khift

Khift

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

P/

It's a bird!

It's a plane!

It's a SUPERHENCHY!



That. Is. Going. To. Be. Awesome.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Wow...sounds like they went back to focusing on PvE with Nightfall. Excellent!

Not too excited by the customizable henchmen (because I don't use them), although this may replace many of the "cookie cutter" PuG requests.

20 New Missions - a much needed expansion to the 13 missions in Factions - YES!!!

No mention of new armors for Core/Factions characters, or whether any of the 300 new skills will be for Factions characters, though...
you silly little sausage of course there will be new armors!

angshuman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
an intimate experience

Quote:
where your decisions shape your personal game experience


Will Anet finally give me the Role Playing game I have been craving for all this while? This has given me a glimmer of hope!

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Very nice, hope it's great when it comes.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

It does indeed sound like theyre aiming for the PvE with this one, considering how pissed off *most* people got with factions.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

I guess the core team focus on PvE and the factions team on PvP. Chapter four could end up PvP focused since the factions team is working it. Just a guess.

Reza

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

are we going back to good old days?

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

• 300 new skills.

• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.
Those are the items that excite me -- and *55* explorable areas? Let's hope they're not the size of postage stamps.

Twenty story missions is very good.

Yup, I'm a happy camper.

Reza

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

emm... hmmmm.... can we sell our henchies?

WTS W/E henchman fully customized with brand new armor and all skills unlocked 500K! :P

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

how come this is still not up at guildwiki?

Reks

Reks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/P

I've always wanted customizable Henchies. However it looks as if Nightfall is leaning towards traditional single-player RPGs.

pixel.summoner

pixel.summoner

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Near Seattle, Wa.

Order of the Shining Lion

N/

/excited

someone get a mop, i'm drooling a lake here....

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reks
I've always wanted customizable Henchies. However it looks as if Nightfall is leaning towards traditional single-player RPGs.
I love (good) traditional single-player RPGs

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Hey, there,

I need to share something I just posted in another forum, because I think it's really relevant here, too.

I was reading the forums this evening and started to get that déjà vu feeling. Back in 2004, when we announced Guild Wars Prophecies, we saw a lot of retailers pick up on the news and post about the game on their sites. That was good – we appreciated them getting the word out that our game was coming, and they, of course, profited from sharing the info by lining up sales of the preorder and the game.

However, there were some problems with what they posted: Some of it just wasn't factual. For instance, how many veterans remember the "cloth map" that was allegedly going to be part of the Prophecies Collector's Edition? Or how about the supposed "Special Edition" that at least one retailer offered, with a contents list like the CE contents but a price that was $20 lower? Does anyone remember about 412 "release dates," too?

The problem with all these things is: The information did not come from ArenaNet. The information was wrong.

We love to share information. We're excited about Nightfall and can't wait to tell you about it: facts, figures, dates, the whole nine yards! So if we had things nailed down, we would announce details from the rooftops! But things are not locked down yet and neither the box contents nor the game content is finalized. Therefore, we're not making any announcements.

Bottom line: Wait to hear it from ArenaNet. We'll give you the straight info, and as soon as we can.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth

heal me bitch" at the monitor.
AMEN!

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over.
EDIT: O noez! gail shoots my happy-bubble.
plz plz plz let it still be as cool as it sounds

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Well Gaile, I almost started saving up for Nightfall from the original post because it sounded so fun.

Now I'm afraid o.o

Reks

Reks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/P

Hmm maybe we've jumped the gun too quickly. =x

inscribed

inscribed

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Well, I was pretty excited....

Knowing my luck, the customizable henchies and the "55 explorable areas" are going to be the details that end up being false.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

Glad I didn't get my hopes up, but I really hope the Hero vs. Hero pvp is real.

Paperfly

Paperfly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ugh, customisable henchies is probably the worst news (or unfounded rumour, if you read more into the post above me than was carefully not-said ) I've heard about Nightfall so far.

...Maybe I should dig up my five-page rants on the Bioware forums trying to get the henchman system scrapped before NeverWinter Nights came out? The worst thing is that I was pretty much proved 100% right about that one.

I'm sorry; it's my problem, I'll deal with it. - Mr Burns, about bloodsucking lawyers rather than awkward henchmen.


@ Gaile: We certainly appreciate that game store descriptions can be and have been unreliable. And any outright denials and confirmations would be most welcome, I'm sure!

However, this is plausible information from a retailer you've worked closely with in the past. That automatically gives it a ~75% credibility rating (relative to all the other speculation this forum is designed to generate). A disclaimer form yourself that some things, sometimes, have turned out to be inaccurate doesn't actually alter this rating (which, you'll note, is pointedly not absolute) and might even be construed as a tactical error.

Why? Because those of us who have followed the release of a number of major games understand publishers' desire for a meticulously controlled release of publicity-type material. And so your post, which does not confirm or deny any specifics, can be interpreted as saying "Whoops, we weren't ready to reveal that yet" as readily as it could "It's wrong, but I'm not saying it's wrong, even though it is and we could put the speculation to rest".

...This on the long-understood convention that a "no comment" counts as a "yes". Of course, politicians and major corporations have been railling against this convention for decades, but since their motives are suspect they don't really get a say about it.

In other, less laberynthine words, I'm fishing for information - a nice 'confirmed' or 'denied' - here.

Nocere Moriari

Nocere Moriari

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Bolivia

Ancient of Days

N/R

submisive henchmen..... sounds to good to be true
And like Gaile Gray said, lets wait to hear it from Anet!!

Twonaiver

Twonaiver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

S??o Paulo Brasil

R/

My mouth was dripping in the first pages, plz, that isnt true ?
its very sad then, i hope some os if is true, i was about to pick another chapter right now.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.
Ooh!

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.
I wonder.

Storyline...seems like another darned Good vs. Evil one. U_U

Well...

EagleEye33

EagleEye33

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a House...duh

Untouchable Heroes

R/E

It sounds awesome i cant wait to test it out during the preview, woot

Ganik Thress

Ganik Thress

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Xen of Onslaught [XoO]

W/E

Good Vs. Evil is the most universal theme there has ever been in any type of epic. You can't have a huge war story that involves the theme of for example, secrecy distilled into for example, an intimate, yet subtle relationship of two cowboy, err, man-lovers who are against all odds with their secret, yet have an audience under 20 call it nothing but super gay gayness.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

that was, eh. Good, while it lasted.