The Haves and the Have Nots...
eternal pho
THANK YOU Capitalist. You've said everything that newer players need to read =D. It is true and does totally make sense that the older players are the rich ones because time is what makes that happen. For example, a new employee can't really complain that he or she doesn't make as much as his or her manager. If you are experienced with this game, then you'd probably know many farming spots and ways to make money and you wouldn't call others Ebayers. I have never been the "lucky type of person", but after 15 months of playing and a bit of farming I managed to afford things.
capitalist
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Originally Posted by fgarvin
C'mon, really guys. When playing, all you see is your character's head and your Guild's cape.
I'll bet my req8 15^50 Wingblade does just as much damage as your req8 15^50 Felblade. |
cosyfiep
I have some green items....I traded some of them for better ones (what does and ele really need with a hammer???) so I have bought a few greens (under 5k) as well (still cant farm a good curses +1 wrapping).....I really dont care what they look like, but what they do----
As for armors, I do the quests, get the rewards, kill the beasties.....and when I have enough for the armor I like, then I buy it.....with all of my characters I can get the armors I want in time.....I dont have 100 plat (only about 40 right now---saving up for my rits 15k armor pieces)....no ecto or shards to speak of.......
I also get those crap drops....NEVER have gotten any item worth more than 50k......and I think I sold that one for 10k later, oh well. Others I still have and use (or traded to my hubby for one he had).
I play the game cause I enjoy it....I buy what I want cause I like what it does or looks like.....really dont give a rats arse about what other people spout while playing.....I just dont read those dialogs....."Im welding..." stop reading....
guild cape? there are only 2 people in my guild right now, and we dont really care what others think.
As for armors, I do the quests, get the rewards, kill the beasties.....and when I have enough for the armor I like, then I buy it.....with all of my characters I can get the armors I want in time.....I dont have 100 plat (only about 40 right now---saving up for my rits 15k armor pieces)....no ecto or shards to speak of.......
I also get those crap drops....NEVER have gotten any item worth more than 50k......and I think I sold that one for 10k later, oh well. Others I still have and use (or traded to my hubby for one he had).
I play the game cause I enjoy it....I buy what I want cause I like what it does or looks like.....really dont give a rats arse about what other people spout while playing.....I just dont read those dialogs....."Im welding..." stop reading....
guild cape? there are only 2 people in my guild right now, and we dont really care what others think.
Maxiemonster
I don't like farming so I'm always poor, but I don't mind, walking around in 1.5K Canthan armor instead of a FoW set doesn't make the game less interesting. I had 2 FoW sets once (because I found an exploit, not because I farmed), and only heard "nice armor" several times, so apperiantly, it doesn't impress anyway (including me), and I'm pretty sure 99% of the people buying FoW armor buy it to impress others, and not because they like the looks (most are ugly in the first place).
Also, as I don't play a Warrior, Assassin or Ranger, most collector's items that are available for my (caster) chararacters are only available from collectors, crafters or even quests. Playing casters rocks!
Also, as I don't play a Warrior, Assassin or Ranger, most collector's items that are available for my (caster) chararacters are only available from collectors, crafters or even quests. Playing casters rocks!
milias
Personally, even though I have "perfect" items, I still prefer to use collector/green items on my chars. Two of my chars are actually wearing desert collector armor 
Y.T.
such a nice post!!!
new players begging for gold in pm *cos u have evrthing, llok, u're wearing fow armor* r disgusting; also there r ppl who yell at u in pugs - they got no idea how to play and run and aggro 3-5 patrols and get the group wiped out in fow, and they'll yell at u back in toa - *hey u bought ur armor on e-bay stop sh** up and stop telling me how to aggro, leroy ftw and u're a noob*
such ppl r discovering guru forums and - surprize! - they continue to beg and yell here, flooding the forums with endless posts like *all chars with chinese names r sweatshop farmers and steal my money (dunno how they do it but w/e), they have to be banned NOW* or *ppl who sell stuff for more than i can pay for it have to be banned* or *ppl who get fow armor pay RL money on ebay and have to be banned* or.... but u got the idea
look, every time u see a girl parking new shiney porche near ur car - <insert not-so-expencive-as-a-porche car name here> - at ur fitness club u dont go home in tears and call ur dad a noob and loser cos he cant get u the same porche by friday, or seriously think about starting a world revolution, right?
new players begging for gold in pm *cos u have evrthing, llok, u're wearing fow armor* r disgusting; also there r ppl who yell at u in pugs - they got no idea how to play and run and aggro 3-5 patrols and get the group wiped out in fow, and they'll yell at u back in toa - *hey u bought ur armor on e-bay stop sh** up and stop telling me how to aggro, leroy ftw and u're a noob*
such ppl r discovering guru forums and - surprize! - they continue to beg and yell here, flooding the forums with endless posts like *all chars with chinese names r sweatshop farmers and steal my money (dunno how they do it but w/e), they have to be banned NOW* or *ppl who sell stuff for more than i can pay for it have to be banned* or *ppl who get fow armor pay RL money on ebay and have to be banned* or.... but u got the idea
look, every time u see a girl parking new shiney porche near ur car - <insert not-so-expencive-as-a-porche car name here> - at ur fitness club u dont go home in tears and call ur dad a noob and loser cos he cant get u the same porche by friday, or seriously think about starting a world revolution, right?
Skyy High
You forget, MSecorsky, that the only reason items have any value at all is because of their rarity. If you make all of the rarest skins available to all, the ones that have them now (and had to pay top dollar to get them) lose, period. Cue mass exodus for all of the top players, and the subsequent annihilation of the game economy. If there are no rare items to strive for, what's the point of trying to acquire more wealth? The PvE in this game is not exciting enough to hold anyone on for very long without the promise of new and shinier items to reward you for your time spent.
The game is the epitome of balanced right now. You have your collectors items if you don't want to pay anything but NEED a perfect weapon right now. You have your cheap purples and golds, with reqs 10+, which are perfect in every way but are only worth a few plat because they have undesireable skins. Greens also fit in that category; they're cheap and perfect. Lastly, you have the rare weapons that rich people who have been playing for a long time can strive for. Changing the system in any way wouild be unbalancing, as it eliminates the last category of weapons.
The game is the epitome of balanced right now. You have your collectors items if you don't want to pay anything but NEED a perfect weapon right now. You have your cheap purples and golds, with reqs 10+, which are perfect in every way but are only worth a few plat because they have undesireable skins. Greens also fit in that category; they're cheap and perfect. Lastly, you have the rare weapons that rich people who have been playing for a long time can strive for. Changing the system in any way wouild be unbalancing, as it eliminates the last category of weapons.
EternalTempest
A reflection on FOW armor from somone how been playing pve (causally) since the early beta of the orginal GW.
With non-locked chests and having monsters drop the same loot in the same spot (aka targeted farming), those that knew where and how made a killing and it was easy for them to buy FOW.
Latter Anet did lots and lots of changes to make FOW a challenge to get (unless you ebay it).
For me Fow does NOT equal skill.
Due to the fact the ability to get FOW was hard.. easy .. hard tells me that I have no idea when you get FOW. This can drive the people who earned fow the hard way nuts.. but it's the way I see things. It's how you play in your FOW armor that makes a good impression on me.
To be honest I could care less about perfect golds or hand made modded collector / greens. Same as 15k/Fow vs 1.5k armor.
My reaction to you is on the following:
-How you communicate/chat
-How you play your character and build
-If you have cool armor / equipment I'll say how good it looks (but I don't equate that to how well you play)
With non-locked chests and having monsters drop the same loot in the same spot (aka targeted farming), those that knew where and how made a killing and it was easy for them to buy FOW.
Latter Anet did lots and lots of changes to make FOW a challenge to get (unless you ebay it).
For me Fow does NOT equal skill.
Due to the fact the ability to get FOW was hard.. easy .. hard tells me that I have no idea when you get FOW. This can drive the people who earned fow the hard way nuts.. but it's the way I see things. It's how you play in your FOW armor that makes a good impression on me.
To be honest I could care less about perfect golds or hand made modded collector / greens. Same as 15k/Fow vs 1.5k armor.
My reaction to you is on the following:
-How you communicate/chat
-How you play your character and build
-If you have cool armor / equipment I'll say how good it looks (but I don't equate that to how well you play)
Skyy High
Oy...when is the last time anyone ever suggested on these boards that any special armor or weapons = skill?
Anyone? Anyone at all ever seen such a comment? I know I haven't.
So why then, is every other bloody post here repeating the "FoW armor != skill" mantra? Who are you trying to convince, we all know that already. It's prestigious, it at the least suggests that you know how to make money or have been playing for a long time, and to many people it looks cool. The same goes for the rare weapon skins. Isn't that enough to strive for? I say yes, therefore leave those items as difficult to acquire.
Anyone? Anyone at all ever seen such a comment? I know I haven't.
So why then, is every other bloody post here repeating the "FoW armor != skill" mantra? Who are you trying to convince, we all know that already. It's prestigious, it at the least suggests that you know how to make money or have been playing for a long time, and to many people it looks cool. The same goes for the rare weapon skins. Isn't that enough to strive for? I say yes, therefore leave those items as difficult to acquire.
Gonzo
I have the skin I want, total 25k. Ok, it's a req. 12, but it is a Celestial Axe, my favourite skin. And it's true, you don't see it a lot, but sometimes I do see it and I'm very happy with my new axe skin.
Thallandor
kudos to the OP for clearing the air of the Myths of the haves and havenot.
/claps
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Well I agree that good looking armor doesnt mean skill but let say it like this.
Char. A is playing the game for a good 2 months now, he has accumulated his 15^50 or 20/20 non rare skinn weapons and he is happy whit it, he also likes how his Droks armor looks like.
But after so many times farming in FoW/UW he has accumulated a small ammount of Ecto/Shards, after this he decided he would like to have FoW armor because of its looks coz old armor is boring for him, So he has to make MANY trips to FoW and UW to get Ecto and Shards, after many trips to FoW/UW he get a lot of experience on game mechanics and how to solo/team farm this places. After a long time of extra work he also got some good drops he didnt need and maybe bought him some rare good looking weapon skinns and perfect mods.
After his accomplishemts over the game a noob who envyes his armor and weapons tell him he is a noob, an idot and he has no skill coz this armor can be bought over eBay. Possibly he tells him this in very crappy english.
I know i bought my high end weapons and 15k armors with expensive dyes because the look nice. I started as an ele farming hydars wanting to put the money for something nice in this case Geomancer 15k. I also started as a Necro SS with my 1.5k Shing Jea armor in UW, I was crappy at first but then after a while i got the hang of it and I can SS nuke rally well, after a lot of trips to UW/FoW I bought myself 15k Kurzick, people before complimented my skills, now they complimente my looks and skills, so in some way for the players that dont buy money off eBay 15k/FoW armor means they have invested a considirable ammount of time into the game and they have to have some skill in playing it.
Char. A is playing the game for a good 2 months now, he has accumulated his 15^50 or 20/20 non rare skinn weapons and he is happy whit it, he also likes how his Droks armor looks like.
But after so many times farming in FoW/UW he has accumulated a small ammount of Ecto/Shards, after this he decided he would like to have FoW armor because of its looks coz old armor is boring for him, So he has to make MANY trips to FoW and UW to get Ecto and Shards, after many trips to FoW/UW he get a lot of experience on game mechanics and how to solo/team farm this places. After a long time of extra work he also got some good drops he didnt need and maybe bought him some rare good looking weapon skinns and perfect mods.
After his accomplishemts over the game a noob who envyes his armor and weapons tell him he is a noob, an idot and he has no skill coz this armor can be bought over eBay. Possibly he tells him this in very crappy english.
I know i bought my high end weapons and 15k armors with expensive dyes because the look nice. I started as an ele farming hydars wanting to put the money for something nice in this case Geomancer 15k. I also started as a Necro SS with my 1.5k Shing Jea armor in UW, I was crappy at first but then after a while i got the hang of it and I can SS nuke rally well, after a lot of trips to UW/FoW I bought myself 15k Kurzick, people before complimented my skills, now they complimente my looks and skills, so in some way for the players that dont buy money off eBay 15k/FoW armor means they have invested a considirable ammount of time into the game and they have to have some skill in playing it.
Yawgmoth
Expensive armors are like rank in pvp - they don't mean that those that got it are better, more skilled than those that don't. But still, there's a much much higher c-h-a-n-c-e that ones that have them got some expierience.
I'm yet to see a noob in a FoW armor, maybe thats because in Europe eBaying gold is much less popular than in the US. From my long time observations, difficult area runners in fow armors have near 100% chance of success, those in 15k armors 80-90% and its only 50% for the 1,5k users. During FoW chest runs warriors in expensive armors die much less - we know that stats are the same, so it has to be skill.
If i didn't say that yet, I fully agree with Capitalist's original post.
And i still think the game needs more rewards for hardcore players
I'm yet to see a noob in a FoW armor, maybe thats because in Europe eBaying gold is much less popular than in the US. From my long time observations, difficult area runners in fow armors have near 100% chance of success, those in 15k armors 80-90% and its only 50% for the 1,5k users. During FoW chest runs warriors in expensive armors die much less - we know that stats are the same, so it has to be skill.
If i didn't say that yet, I fully agree with Capitalist's original post.
And i still think the game needs more rewards for hardcore players
Mr Bunny
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
To dispel a common myth, there is ABSOLUTELY no benefit to exceeding your requirement...whether you just barely meet the requirement or exceed it by 7 levels - it does EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
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A req 8 axe used at 16 Axe Mastery does 62.5% more damage than the very same axe used with only 8 in Axe Mastery.
For more info, see guildwiki's description of damage mechanics, or the weapon damage calculator on this very site.
Medion
I think he meant it the other way around Bunny;
With 16 axe mastery, there is no difference between a req 8 axe or a req 13 axe.
That's the way I read it anyway.
With 16 axe mastery, there is no difference between a req 8 axe or a req 13 axe.
That's the way I read it anyway.
Lady Ana Stacia
I have been following this thread with some amusement. Then today had a strange thing happen. I was bored and so was giving free runs from the Marketplace to Kaneing. Along with boredom it was to counter the scammers advertising they would run it for 500g.
I was on my ele and yes I have 15k end game armor when someone commented on my armor. I said thank you and then got asked if it was 1.5 or 15k. When I replied yes it was 15k all I heard was your rich blah blah blah. Why is it so hard to convince people I didn't buy it because I am rich I bought it because it is the look I *LIKED* and not because I wanted to show I was *elite*
Sheesh never encountered being harrassed over my armor while doing something just to be nice and help others out!
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I was on my ele and yes I have 15k end game armor when someone commented on my armor. I said thank you and then got asked if it was 1.5 or 15k. When I replied yes it was 15k all I heard was your rich blah blah blah. Why is it so hard to convince people I didn't buy it because I am rich I bought it because it is the look I *LIKED* and not because I wanted to show I was *elite*
Sheesh never encountered being harrassed over my armor while doing something just to be nice and help others out!
:-)
makosi
A little off-topic but why to people yearn for req. 7/8 15>50? Other than the fact that they allow a little more flexibility in your builds, i can't see any other benefits. Who in GW goes in to battle with less than 12 Swordmanship/Axe Mastery at lvl 20? We all know that the 'low req = greater chance of a critical hit' was a rumour.
Back on topic: I agree with everything the OP said. I consider myself a 'have' in GW and earned every gold coin in accordance to the EULA. If i want to buy a Zomg Godly Sundering Zodiac Axe of 'Pwnage' then I will but my req. 9 15>50 Dadao sword looks cool and does the same thing. My personal prefernce is to burn gold in armour.
Back on topic: I agree with everything the OP said. I consider myself a 'have' in GW and earned every gold coin in accordance to the EULA. If i want to buy a Zomg Godly Sundering Zodiac Axe of 'Pwnage' then I will but my req. 9 15>50 Dadao sword looks cool and does the same thing. My personal prefernce is to burn gold in armour.
Curse You
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A little off-topic but why to people yearn for req. 7/8 15>50? Other than the fact that they allow a little more flexibility in your builds, i can't see any other benefits. Who in GW goes in to battle with less than 12 Swordmanship/Axe Mastery at lvl 20? We all know that the 'low req = greater chance of a critical hit' was a rumour.
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But if you're doing an attack build (not tanking), then 12-15 is probably the most common (superior runes are NOT worth it).
Also, a person with 14 swordsmanship and a req 8 sword does the same damage as someone with 14 swordsmanship and a req 13 sword.
The Herbalizer
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A little off-topic but why to people yearn for req. 7/8 15>50? Other than the fact that they allow a little more flexibility in your builds, i can't see any other benefits. Who in GW goes in to battle with less than 12 Swordmanship/Axe Mastery at lvl 20? We all know that the 'low req = greater chance of a critical hit' was a rumour.
Back on topic: I agree with everything the OP said. I consider myself a 'have' in GW and earned every gold coin in accordance to the EULA. If i want to buy a Zomg Godly Sundering Zodiac Axe of 'Pwnage' then I will but my req. 9 15>50 Dadao sword looks cool and does the same thing. My personal prefernce is to burn gold in armour. |
Req 7 with a 15>50 / 15%-10-Al / 15% -5 Energy are considered the most perfect item you could buy aside from no negative/unconditional weapons. I have however, needed to use 7 sword in a build but that was in a freak circumstance.
fgarvin
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Originally Posted by capitalist
Not your guild's cape, that is on perma-hide.
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apocalypse_xx
I agree with OP totally on this issue. I am so sick and tired of people constantly complaining about others trying to sell perfect items for 100k+ectos and saying that all FOW armor owners ebayed. Get a grip people, for those skilled players or those players with half a brain of their own, making GW cash is extremely simple. Don't believe me, let me give you an example...The Totem Axe. I was at work when they were released but I heard about on these forums, I saw the stats and immediately realised that everyone was going to want one. So while doing 1 run I developed my OWN build to quickly solo the areas and then made literally 100's of plat from selling Totems at around 20k each. I still always hang onto a few Totems for those spamming WTB and then ask 10k, which I usually get (8-10k) even though someone will always tell me, no way, they sell for 5k not 10k, it is my axe and I can ASK whatever I want for it, and no one forces anyone to buy anything. So, IMO, MOST times FOW armor and definatley rank DO speak highly of the players skill, and the "have nots" are generally the unskilled, immature babies that need someone to hold their hand in everything they do, except the small percentage that just don't care about making gold.
Just to add one more thing, I have very limited time for PVE anymore, but yet I still find it extremely easy to make cash whenever I want to...learn to think for yourself and watch just how far it can take you.
Keep up the good work Capitalist
Just to add one more thing, I have very limited time for PVE anymore, but yet I still find it extremely easy to make cash whenever I want to...learn to think for yourself and watch just how far it can take you.
Keep up the good work Capitalist
xMikex
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Excellent post, capitalist. In short:
Almost every perumtation of "perfect" item is available either through a collector or a green item. Very few green items exceed 100K, let alone 50K. Granted, all of those items have a 9 requirement, but in the end, how many times do you find yourself only having enough points in your build for an 8 or 7 requirement? To dispel a common myth, there is ABSOLUTELY no benefit to exceeding your requirement...whether you just barely meet the requirement or exceed it by 7 levels - it does EXACTLY THE SAME THING. If you have a chip on your shoulder because you can't get the exact statistics you want on the exact skin you want, then you simply need to (1) find ways to accumulate the cash to get your heart's desire or (2) get over it. 99% of you should pursue #2, in order not to become bitter, as many of those have who post about the economy being broken. It's really hard for an individual to separate NEED from DESIRE, but it's very easy for third parties to spot that in your threads. |
it does do something....havenet you read the swordsmanship dispription ..something like swordsmanship skills are more effective with higher swordsmanship...swordsmanship skill do more damage, with higher swordsmanship.
Count Feanor
It really isn't that hard. I make money by selling green items I farm and also sell materials. Like many have said, if you use your brain and some of the information available (farming guides, builds, etc) here on Guru, you'll be on your way. Seems to me people are just lazy. I'm a casual gamer and usually don't have more than 2 days a week to play. I flucuate between 150 to 300k because I supply what people demand. Find out what that is and do that for a while. Being the leader in my guild, I use the money I make to help every member to become self-sufficient money-wise. I help them with money and materials for armor and help them set up farming characters and point them in the right direction. All my members are self-sufficient and have over
100k. There are two that I'm helping to get to that point; they will be soon.
100k. There are two that I'm helping to get to that point; they will be soon.
Avarre
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it does do something....havenet you read the swordsmanship dispription ..something like swordsmanship skills are more effective with higher swordsmanship...swordsmanship skill do more damage, with higher swordsmanship.
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Fist_of_God
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We were all noobs when we started this game... remember that.
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Sli Ander
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except the small percentage that just don't care about making gold.
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If I want that Totem axe or Kephkets refuge or whatever, I go out and try and farm it. If I don't want it bad enough to ignore my pride and cough up the dough/farm the area constantly, I guess I don't want it badly enough. This game is a good balance of casual and hardcore players. The casual players can satisfy their needs with cheaper armor that does the same(and sometimes looks better) and weapons, and the hardcore guys get the rare stuff through sheer grind: making money, getting it themselves, or trading another weapon for it.
I want the cool skins too. I like adding a nifty look to my monk, trying to make him look heroic. So what do I do to get them? I go kill monsters. And if I don't have the cash to buy something I can't farm easily? I count to ten, give up, and go vent my anger on the nearest troll. Maybe he'll drop enough so I can buy it...
Two April Mornings
Good post capitalist, maybe people will realize that some of us worked to gain.
BunnyMaster
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lol. That pretty much sums up me. All the gold I earned, I earned by working my way through Tyria, no farming. No running. I'm the epitome of a casual player. I have a steady 100k in my storage, anything else I earn is spending money.
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I understand why people want to sell items for 100 plus K. Because someone is obviously willing to pay it.
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And who needs money in this game? All the stuff I needed can drop from monsters: weapons, armor and runes. Hell, some monsters are nice enough to drop mods so I can make my own uberweapon. I don't need money for HP/MP-pills or to repair my weapon like in other games.
Horseman Of War
I dont know about youguys, but Id rather find a green than a gold... at least its for sure max.
Hell, I earned all the greens I have, too- with the exception of Ungues of ht Oni I bought for 10k... but I earned that 10k too.
I take pride in my greens more than my golds, simply because I had to fight someone for it, not just get lucky on a 'chest run'.
I have not ever been a FARMER so to speak... but I am proof that dedication to an objective will yield the results you desire. Most of my green drops were obtained with my Mesmer-> so you know I aint solo farmin.
I have almost 300k gold saved just WAITING for me to get to the 15k armor area... this is after playing roughly 4 hours a day for two months with newly created Factions characters... granted it is MUCH easier to amass a fortune in factions with the bigger rewards and higher level enemies on average. Heck you can make 50k easy just standing around Shing Jea selling max items for a few hours.
Actually lets see GW1- took me 4 days of fire islanding to save up for my 15k armor....
GW2- had 15k after getting done with Naphui Quarter.
Besides, if you REALLY want gold, just get really good at dragons throat and play that a few times... easy to get some plats...
With how cheap items are being sold for these days, there is no reason why anyone playin the game for a few weeks shouldnt have been able to find at least ONE wanted item for cheap from another player.
Sheesh Totem Axe is goin for 5-10k now... everyone should have one :P Ive even seen Kanaxai's Greens go for 30k recently...
Besides... if you arent SKILLED enough- youre items will be useless compared to someone with with seemingly lesser items/ low cost armor.
Hell, I earned all the greens I have, too- with the exception of Ungues of ht Oni I bought for 10k... but I earned that 10k too.
I take pride in my greens more than my golds, simply because I had to fight someone for it, not just get lucky on a 'chest run'.
I have not ever been a FARMER so to speak... but I am proof that dedication to an objective will yield the results you desire. Most of my green drops were obtained with my Mesmer-> so you know I aint solo farmin.
I have almost 300k gold saved just WAITING for me to get to the 15k armor area... this is after playing roughly 4 hours a day for two months with newly created Factions characters... granted it is MUCH easier to amass a fortune in factions with the bigger rewards and higher level enemies on average. Heck you can make 50k easy just standing around Shing Jea selling max items for a few hours.
Actually lets see GW1- took me 4 days of fire islanding to save up for my 15k armor....
GW2- had 15k after getting done with Naphui Quarter.
Besides, if you REALLY want gold, just get really good at dragons throat and play that a few times... easy to get some plats...
With how cheap items are being sold for these days, there is no reason why anyone playin the game for a few weeks shouldnt have been able to find at least ONE wanted item for cheap from another player.
Sheesh Totem Axe is goin for 5-10k now... everyone should have one :P Ive even seen Kanaxai's Greens go for 30k recently...
Besides... if you arent SKILLED enough- youre items will be useless compared to someone with with seemingly lesser items/ low cost armor.
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Getting money is easly, first tome player think 1 k is a lot, I did the same, when I started to play I also thought the they are crazy buying 100k+ items,, Now I do the exact same skinn, wnter 20/20 Zodiac Longbow +30 hp, paid more for the bow than a green bow with these stats is worth, had to buy the mods also, but I dont care coz it looks great, and my platinums are a combination of 0 and 1, no use in my Real life.
I cant go and buy myself a Pizza and a Coke with 2 platinums, I cant spend then on my new shoes, cant spent them on any thing that I appreciate and/or need in my life, So when I get a certaion ammount of money I sepnd it so that guys that stock up on money can keep it for them selfs.
I cant go and buy myself a Pizza and a Coke with 2 platinums, I cant spend then on my new shoes, cant spent them on any thing that I appreciate and/or need in my life, So when I get a certaion ammount of money I sepnd it so that guys that stock up on money can keep it for them selfs.
Horseman Of War
as a side note, sorry for double posting again...
but that guy at the top of this page has a good point...
you get plenty of collector items... just make your own max and then mod it as you see fit... nice thing is you can continue to upgrade it... (like you start with 10% sundering... find a 16%, a 18%, and finally a 20%)
but that guy at the top of this page has a good point...
you get plenty of collector items... just make your own max and then mod it as you see fit... nice thing is you can continue to upgrade it... (like you start with 10% sundering... find a 16%, a 18%, and finally a 20%)
QuietWanderer
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such a nice post!!!
new players begging for gold in pm *cos u have evrthing, llok, u're wearing fow armor* r disgusting; also there r ppl who yell at u in pugs - they got no idea how to play and run and aggro 3-5 patrols and get the group wiped out in fow, and they'll yell at u back in toa - *hey u bought ur armor on e-bay stop sh** up and stop telling me how to aggro, leroy ftw and u're a noob* such ppl r discovering guru forums and - surprize! - they continue to beg and yell here, flooding the forums with endless posts like *all chars with chinese names r sweatshop farmers and steal my money (dunno how they do it but w/e), they have to be banned NOW* or *ppl who sell stuff for more than i can pay for it have to be banned* or *ppl who get fow armor pay RL money on ebay and have to be banned* or.... but u got the idea look, every time u see a girl parking new shiney porche near ur car - <insert not-so-expencive-as-a-porche car name here> - at ur fitness club u dont go home in tears and call ur dad a noob and loser cos he cant get u the same porche by friday, or seriously think about starting a world revolution, right? |
Age
I am a have not and I have been playing this game for over a year now and I only have 2 pieces of 1 piece of 15k for my Warrior and Ranger but really want my Monks and I don't have no where near close to 500k.
eternal pho
Maybe once those whining people get enough money to buy nice stuff, they'll stop calling others E-bayers =D. As many have posted, please..please...stop accusing people of E-baying their gold. It's really not that hard to get money.
unienaule
Three cheers for capitalist!
My 2 cents:
In Guild Wars:
Time = Money
Money != Ownage
My 2 cents:
In Guild Wars:
Time = Money
Money != Ownage
capitalist
Thanks for all the positive feedback. Let keep this up so new players can read it 
Doomlord_Slayermann
I would just like to point out that EVEN IF you have a perfect weapon (say 15^50%) it makes absolutely no difference from having a 13^50% or even a 10^50%. The mentality of item-based power is so hard-coded into most RPGs that many of the casual players miss it entirely in Guild Wars. Good job capitalist and may the people that play Guild Wars like Diablo 2 go back to Diablo 2 and never return.
Optimizer
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I would just like to point out that EVEN IF you have a perfect weapon (say 15^50%) it makes absolutely no difference from having a 13^50% or even a 10^50%. The mentality of item-based power is so hard-coded into most RPGs that many of the casual players miss it entirely in Guild Wars. Good job capitalist and may the people that play Guild Wars like Diablo 2 go back to Diablo 2 and never return.
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Sweetest
i have 6 fissures and 5 mil gold and 1k + ectos 
but once you get everything that you want , there is not much to spend your money on so it starts to stockpile
but once you get everything that you want , there is not much to spend your money on so it starts to stockpile
Kook~NBK~
Something I did early on (and I mean VERY early on) was to tailor my builds around the best available weapon I had at the time. I switched back and forth from axe to sword so many times it's not funny! It's called "making do." For a long time I was using a 3:1 vamp. bow for my B/P ranger. Every time I'd find a 4:1 or 5:1 bow, I'd expert salvage it (because I already found a +30hp mod for mine) trying to get the string. I got LOTS of wood planks doing this, but I finally got my 5:1 string. (it's a regular half-moon bow, too - no special skin)
Sometimes gaining wealth is the luck of the draw. I've personally gotten only 5 or 6 black dye drops in 15 months of playing, and only 1 item have I ever sold for more than 40K, most other weapons being worth 1 - 5k.
As for appearances, I have the armor on my characters to make them more enjoyable for me to play. Of my 5 characters, only my Mesmer has FoW armor - simply because I like the way it looks better than any other Mesmer armor out there. If I liked the FoW armor for my Warrior, Monk, Ele, or Ranger, better than what's they've got, I'd be saving up to get it for them, too. (I'd have to REALLY like it, tho!) I also dyed my armors in colors that I like. If no one's impressed with my dye jobs, I don't care!
I'm not a poor player, but I don't have any "uber-leet" weapon skins (I do have a storm bow, but IDK if that counts anymore). Buying them is a waste of money, as far as I'm concerned. When I'm in ABs and people start spamming what they're wielding, I respond by saying "I'm wielding a stick."
For the "gotta have low req." crowd: It makes no sense to me needing a req 7 Axe if you're going to be using it with Axe skills. You're going to have your axe mastery pumped up to at least 12 anyway (unless you want your skills to be ineffective), so having anything less than req 12 won't make one bit of difference!
Sometimes gaining wealth is the luck of the draw. I've personally gotten only 5 or 6 black dye drops in 15 months of playing, and only 1 item have I ever sold for more than 40K, most other weapons being worth 1 - 5k.
As for appearances, I have the armor on my characters to make them more enjoyable for me to play. Of my 5 characters, only my Mesmer has FoW armor - simply because I like the way it looks better than any other Mesmer armor out there. If I liked the FoW armor for my Warrior, Monk, Ele, or Ranger, better than what's they've got, I'd be saving up to get it for them, too. (I'd have to REALLY like it, tho!) I also dyed my armors in colors that I like. If no one's impressed with my dye jobs, I don't care!
I'm not a poor player, but I don't have any "uber-leet" weapon skins (I do have a storm bow, but IDK if that counts anymore). Buying them is a waste of money, as far as I'm concerned. When I'm in ABs and people start spamming what they're wielding, I respond by saying "I'm wielding a stick."
For the "gotta have low req." crowd: It makes no sense to me needing a req 7 Axe if you're going to be using it with Axe skills. You're going to have your axe mastery pumped up to at least 12 anyway (unless you want your skills to be ineffective), so having anything less than req 12 won't make one bit of difference!