Characters looking different :/

sledgeunderhill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gathering of Friends [GoF]

I didn't see a change in my character face either. Hopefully we'll see some additional updates (or evidence from others that progress was made).

I want to stress that I am quite pleased with the response we've heard from ANet and their representatives on this issue. I'm patient to see how this will play out in the coming weeks.

Mr Toraan

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ohio

We Don't Do it on Purpose [pimp]

Mo/Me

Sorry for the double post (sort of) but my guild leader just complained that her mesmer now (post update) looks like a dork. Guess ANet didn't fix it...

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

yeah the update we just had (Like 5 minutes ago) changed a few things on my female eles face

Her lips now are brighter in color, the eyes still remain the same and have that whorish eyeliner

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathnite
a net it says in the update that u updated character faces, but please mine still looks like this

Before (hot):

After (yikes):
Ahh poor Aeris. You have my condolenses! However you spell that word.

Did this only happen to Tyrian faces? Because most of my girl characters are canthan faced and nothing happened to them. Also my monk looks like he has eyeliner on, it's good for me though.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Well they removed a few glitches from the mezzes etc.
but my ele still has those panda eyes >,>'

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Good to see ArenaNet is doing SOMETHING about it though...

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

My ele still has duck lips.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by WasAGuest
That doesn't tell about new looks though. Animations I got (understand); but no mention on the ability to change the looks of the characters.
The faces were not built to have anthing moveable other than the eyes. The faces had to be rebuilt and weighted to takemore facial animations, and the older face shapes, since they originally weren't made with facial animations in mind, probably wouldn't have taken the animations well. The new faces were built with animations in mind, and so might look a bit different, as well as the new shadowing giving some bad looks to the faces. The changes aren't huge, personally I can't see much difference at all on alot of them, though some are downright hideous with the new lighting.

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus
This has been like this since prophecies came out.
A bald dot pops over, instead of improving current faces that are glitch free, why not work on the ones that actually need fixing? Priority is the right name for this situation.

Anyway, I would apreciate it very much if this was fixed, which im sure will, and I do apreciate the fact that the artists are monitoring reports on this thread.

Keep up the good work.
And if this takes time to be fixed we can wait, after all ive been waiting for 15 months(when i made this character).

Regards
-Lynxius
Amen. I sure as hell hope it's solves soon. I've been just about smacking my head on my desk trying to find armor to cover it up, but since knight's armor got nerfed to near-uselessness (in PvE, at least), there's been nothing, except ugly and expensive obsidian armor. It would be REALLY NICE if this issue, which has always been a problem, I assume for tens of thousands of customers, would be solved.

I don't want to sound obnoxious (I'm legally disabled... one part of that is that I can sometimes be a total ass and not be aware of it until someone points it out.... making me feel horrible ) but I think this particular fix is LOOOOONG overdue and I am still eagerly waiting for it. My fingers are crossed...

Brittany

Brittany

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Perth, Australia

R/

Seconding the poor werewolf girl from near the start of the thread, that particular ranger face has been hit hard.

Just before retail, I was once a beauty.



Now it's all HAI GUYS HURRRR

SirErnieMacGloop

SirErnieMacGloop

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Area 52

My character's mostly missed the bad messups, but this is my take:

Monk: no longer the carefree 'Dwayna will take care of everything' healer, now a serious disciple of life force.
Ele: no longer an elvish princess, looks like a pekingnese (sp?) face all smashed in.
Rit: looks like my old GF, no longer the buxom tease, now just an over worked mouth
Storage War: gone is the twinkle and smile that showed she enjoyed bashing your head in, looks like she stubbed her toe now.
Main War: used to look like me, now looks like a cross between Vinny Barberino and a RL frd of mine that went psychotic. At over 2100 hours on this character, this one pains me the most, the last thing I want to reminded of when I'm playing is a RL frd who would've gotten along with the Columbine guys.

None of this is quantifiable in any way, but the character of my characters has changed.

I don't believe A-net can give me back those things that have changed without scrapping the whole lip-sync thing, and thats ok, if they give us the option to re-select what we want our character to look like.

$.02

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Actually, I think that face is alot better :/

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Actually, I think that face is alot better :/
Agreed. More polygons FTW.

Rusty Deth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Woodland Realm

Mo/N

Mine were made cooler.

and they gave my ranger more of a beard as well.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Odd, my Ranger uses the same face as Brittanys, but it is still the old face but with a slight crack between the lips, showing it's been redone for facial animations. I want that cool face

My Documents

My Documents

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Crippled Black Phoenix



Left, Sept 14th Update: No apparent change in facial features/make-up, though I'd imagine she's a bit pissed part of her head is detached from her neck.

Right, Sept 15th Update: Neck and head sewn back together, but wait... runny mascara? Possibly the result of the painful surgical procedure rendered by the last update?

TBH, it's only apparent in certain lighting situations. Oft seen when facing direct light source and not so much away. Looking away she looks pretty much the same as before, just... fuller? Added polys/vertices are my guess.

Either way, thanks for giving my neck back anet. All I know is Nightfall better introduce hair stylists. My necros hair is ~17 months stale. :(

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Might as well bring Anet's attention to one of the male monk hair style. (the long hair one from cathan) there happens to be a bald spot when you zoom out and its driving me crazy.
fix this and i promise i will buy nightfall.

Brittany

Brittany

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Perth, Australia

R/

Hrrm alright, if I turn -away- from the light in LA, suddenly I look pretty alright again. So as long as I can go through the rest of the game not looking at any light sources I'm set! :P

At retail, facing the light in Zen Daijun or some place, facing away from the light in LA.

Ulivious The Reaper

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo


Well, i can say one thing, i love the new look, looks more smooth than the old

(olds the black armour new is the teal) i like it, thanks Anet, my monks pretty ^.^

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

The monks have massive buns now o__o;

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

BEFORE 9/15 UPDATE:


AFTER 9/15 UPDATE


It appears that it reverted to my old face, but in higher definition. No complaints.

Also, one Ele face is very odd...





MOLYMOLYMOLYMOLAAAAAAAY!

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'm honestly getting fed up with this.

I was one win away from glad point, and we couldn't go any farther because there was a new build...aka, I lost out on a glad because they were changing the way some of the chars faces looked.

If that doesn't bum ya out a bit, not sure what would.

icedragon981

icedragon981

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

At my computer

Teh Nine [lll]

N/

Eh, all my characters look the same. (But most of the changes seem to be with female characters, while all mine are male.)

deathnite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathnite
a net it says in the update that u updated character faces, but please mine still looks like this

Before (hot):

After (yikes):
YES !! in the second build u fixed the lips however like the other person said , the eyes are still the same and have like a pound of eyeliner all over it, anyone notice the lips being a bit pixilated at all?

this is what she looks like now (massive amount of eyeliner/pixilated lips >_<):

Misa

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Also, one Ele face is very odd...





MOLYMOLYMOLYMOLAAAAAAAY!
That ele face always has a beauty mark on it. That's my Ele's face btw.

Edit:

Gaile, would you please notify the art team to take a look at this thread?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10028462

It's a collection of graphic glitches players found in game. ^__^

Ombrepierre

Ombrepierre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

France

Les Jumelles Ecarlates [RP]

W/

I'm really disappointed with the new apparence of my warrior girl *sigh*

At left, before... Very beautiful character. At right, the new model, horrible...



Please, Gaile, say at your team I need to come back my former character!

(Sorry for my bad english, I'm french : D)

Andisa Kalorn

Andisa Kalorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[PMS]

Well the update fixed the most obvious problems on the faces of my characters, which I'm very happy about... my mes can now show her face to the light again! I can live with my necro's new open mouth I suppose but I'm still not that pleased about it.

Now the faces look decent, please fix the right shoulders of ALL my female characters (except my assassin). To varying degrees, they all have their right shoulder dislocated into their back when looked at from behind. It's worst on my necro, but all others except the assassin have it. The recent update seems to have made it worse (I could ignore it before, but now it just jumps out at me, especially in the worst cases). This is a problem with the model itself... not just a specific armor, not a specific movement, and not even a specific class. I think that's big enough to warrant a fix.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by aspectacle
Mesmer before and after:

Your mesmer looks old, or like they're sleep depraved and on several drugs.

I luckily, was not effected by the changes. I did notive some changes to my character's faces, but mostly they just are now higher quality.

Frostlight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hmm, since it was said that Anet is looking at these threads, I thought I might register and post some glitches. Image from the char creation screen:



Right: a black dot
Middle: the scalp pieces don't come together at the seam above the ear
Left: lighting glitch and the seam again

They show up clearer in game especially if you rotate your view a bit. Anyway, not a big deal but my monk has one side of the head shaved and the scalp seams are a bit disturbing , and I don't remember noticing them before the update.

Ombrepierre

Ombrepierre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

France

Les Jumelles Ecarlates [RP]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
There is barely a change.

Better eye liner?

I mean come on, how vain can you get?
The eyes are made up too much, and the lips are too thick...

Look at how the difference is big :


Left, before. Right, new model.

It's no more the same character!

Kedlai Everwinter

Kedlai Everwinter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where Iz Teh Bonuz

W/

Hmm, they didn't close my warrior's mouth... are they still working on changes or was that update the only one that they're doing? Because I still notice a -lot- of skin problems on various characters, particularly all the female warrior chins, and on both sides of the nose.

Still, I've noticed the changes that -were- made and they look good so far. Keep up the good work!

aspectacle

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by My Documents

Right, Sept 15th Update: Neck and head sewn back together, but wait... runny mascara? Possibly the result of the painful surgical procedure rendered by the last update?

TBH, it's only apparent in certain lighting situations. Oft seen when facing direct light source and not so much away. Looking away she looks pretty much the same as before, just... fuller? Added polys/vertices are my guess.
I am also still getting those same lines on the face of my mesmer too (not the same face though). Looking at the new character creation screen there are 4 tyrian female mesmer faces which have the lines - #2 on row 1, #1, #2 & #3 on row 3. You might extend that to #1 on row 1 too, but I'm not sure what it used to look like - so that might be normal.

It only seems to be the mesmers with the glitch too.

shinrinningu

shinrinningu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Behind you

I was exiled

R/Me



I wouldn't have mind if the face looked more manly. But, yeah... there's eyeshadow and possibly eyeliner on him now. Reminds me of the emo schoolkids nowadays wearing black eyeliner to go to school. I hope they can change it to a face without eyeshadow/eyeliner and any lip biting or revert it back to the less fruity face (i.e. the Orlando Bloom face).


Edit: Here's the face before the update.


(had to jack it from the mesmer screenshot forum, apologies to the player who the character belongs to)

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

I'm impressed. Sure, there are a lot of people still unhappy, and perhaps justifiably so, but the artists at Anet are obviously TRYING to fix the problems. Every one of them that I personally noticed has been fixed.

Knowing that this thread is really doing some good (and I assume it will continue to do so) I feel obligated to post pictures of other faces that might need an edit, even if I don't use them myself.

These lovely ladies could probably do with some poly adjustment around the eyes. Mesmers are THE VAINEST, you know. ^-^



And really, people, stop judging other people's opinions. If THEY say THEIR character is bad now, THEY are right, not you. Who cares if you think that the addition of eyeliner to a fierce warrior woman is an improvement, the person who picked that face thinks it's bad, and that's all that matters.

Raging Pacifist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Ocean Machines

W/

How about we get a choice wheather we want the ability to talk in cutscenes or look good?

Maybe for each character affected, you would get the choice to change the face to the new version, or keep the old version. I personally don't care if my mesmer can speak in cutscenes if I'm just going to delete her anyway. and in the character creation screen, just add version 1 and version 2 faces, instead of removing the old faces.

I don't see why we suddenly need lip synching if we did fine without it and the game is based around pvp.

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

Only problems that I have that are bothering me are the open mouths. Just close the ones that were originaly closed. Also I think that there will be many people who will not be satisfied with their new looks once the fixes have been set. I think that we should beable to have a couple of chances to pick new faces. I would not want it to be something that can be done at will at any time. Perhaps limit it to 5 times per each character.

DawnFrostbringer

DawnFrostbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Virginia

House Of Eire

E/Mo

I don't see what the problem is in half of these complaints.. Some of the before and after pictures differ mainly because of lighting and angle changes.

One thing I do believe is that the models were always like this.. but with the refinements in geometry we're just noticing some of these things for the first time. I remember seeing some strange looking geometry before the update. In some cases maps need to be cleaned up.. in other cases points may need to be pulled.. but in most cases I see no trouble.

I haven't noticed problems on any of my 18 character faces.

Dawn

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
are you on crack? she looks way better, she was so pale+crappy makeup before.

honestly most of the proph ele faces really sucked ass before, they were all pale and ugly nothin was defined.
obviously theres little bugs with the changes with eles and all others, but still eles got way better changes over all.
Are you serious? Her expression was much better before to me. ah and also, this is her face after the 19/5 update:


Thanks to anet for reducing the retarded look, i really appreciate that although i still prefered the 1st look/expression. That chin is still a bit large, I think. maybe my eyes are playing jokes on me but is it possible to help her? PLS, she is only 1 year old and doesn't deserve to stay like that!

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
These lovely ladies could probably do with some poly adjustment around the eyes. Mesmers are THE VAINEST, you know. ^-^

My mesmer's face is bottom-left one and eyes "shadows" werent still corrected in yesterday's update - these are my old screenshots from previous posts:




On login screen they are not visible but in some game locations (like Shing Jea Monstery) u can also see dark shadows on left/right sides of lips...

Also i noticed that Prophecies areas/outposts (like my guild hall) less likely cause "bad shadows". Shadows more often appear in Factions' areas/outposts.

After last update all i saw was "a little more" open mouth .... and some white pixels inside.. this looks "sad".. .. plz close it again like before...

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Warrior still looks the same, post update. UGH!