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Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

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16 Sep 2006 at 19:13 - 401

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ombrepierre

You're wrong, I look at my character's face very often. Because :

1. I like to take a lot of screenshots during my adventures
2. I'm a roleplayer, and I spend a lot of time to talk with the rp community, trying to be at my best face *smile* Yes, it's very important. Really.
3. It's (it was, now, maybe ? GAILE!!! Please, help me!) a very beautiful warrior girl

You still are over reacting to it, I dont really care if you enjoy rping, its barely any diffrent from the original face. I work as a characiture artist at an amusment park, I draw people all day and its my job to make exagerated faces based on features, and Im telling you there is almost no diffrence in the face, and the diffrence that was made was for the better cause the lips dont look fake like they did before, stop crying. If the lips changing on your video game character make you this upset then you really need to rethink your life.

None of these images people are posting are showing their characters look bad, they just have a slight diffrence. and because of that everyone is running around sayng "OMG FACE IS TEH DIFFRENT IM MIND GUNNA SPLOAD. I CAN NOT HANDLE CHANGE, MY WORLD IS THE RUIND!!!!!111111"

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 19:32 - 402

Before:

After:

Don't try and say this is not a small change. My Mesmer was my best looking character, until recently. His face has always been my favorite, until they added makeup! I can barely stand to look at his face uncovered now.

It only happens when he's facing the light; his face is normal when facing away. I've had and loved my Mesmer for eight months, spending thousands of platinum and hours on him. ANet, PLEASE don't force him to cover his once-perfect mug with a mask for the rest of his days! I know this is probably just a consequence of the "glitch" being fixed, but I implore you, PLEASE do something, anything, about this!

EDIT: An yes, both of these pictures were taken at the same angle, with my character facing the light source.

Tien ak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Crystal Indignation

R/W

16 Sep 2006 at 19:56 - 403

Im sorry but I don't understand why people are going aganinst peoples opioions and also I don't understand why yet again, Arena net seem to be were not changing it deal with it.

Also gaile how can you say it doesn't matter, so your saying that all these RPG's you've played you wouldn't mind if a company chaged your character, and lets just say you didn't like it, then one of the staff memebers says tough. How is this good customer support? you expect me to buy your expansion after ruining my game don't make me laugh.

You all might think oh well your going over the top, well thats only beacuse certain people like to

A) couse proberlem and just disagree without thinking about how the person effected.

B) their not infected and find it funny winding everyone up.

End of day your only ruining Guild wars for yourselves, many people are angry about this change, and some very good ideas have been said such as the optioion to change it back.

Gaile please don't try and ignore anouther mistake of Arena net's by trying to shut a thread down or completly ignoring the issue by pinning the blame on your customers saying how were the proberlem.

I've also noticed which has to be honest wound me up the most how all the Oriental looking characters look fine and they've had the improvements yes but look the same no stupid teath showing.

I find it hard to understand how a comapany who has came from Blizzard one of the best companies around can just turn around to thousands of customers who are not happy with this change and say "hey sorry guys but your overreacting...you know this thread is over close it please...no wait a second please buy Nightfall

" I mean seriously are taking the mick do you want me to buy more chapters? treating me like you own me and that once i've bought your game you own everything I do isn't my kind of fun.

It's like buying a car for the look then someone from the company and putting bright Yellow and pink spots all over it then when you ask to change it back they say " hey your totaly overreacting...wana buy anouther car?

"

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

16 Sep 2006 at 19:57 - 404

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrile

I would however like to report one thing on this thread we're told is maybe being monitored and point out this long running glitch to people, and which I hope could be fixed -

It occurs with the camera pulled right back (which is why it's such a small picture) and while running forwards. It's more difficult to get a screenshot of it than I thought but is very obvious when moving.

thats why i never crafted fow skirt.... it might be no so easy to get a ss of ur own char, but its pretty noticeable in-game on teammates...

deathnite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 20:04 - 405

i found an error on some ele faces but not all of them, i checked the face under different lighting and it doesnt go away, this must be a facial error tho, on the top upper portion of the lips its really really choppy, the first pic and second one are under different lighting too, please fix this

....the choppiness wasnt here be4 the update and i dont see why lips should be choppy for any reason :\

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

16 Sep 2006 at 20:04 - 406

my mesmer looks old and has almost no hair O.o

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

16 Sep 2006 at 20:09 - 407

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

Are you serious? Her expression was much better before to me. ah and also, this is her face after the 19/5 update:

Thanks to anet for reducing the retarded look, i really appreciate that although i still prefered the 1st look/expression. That chin is still a bit large, I think. maybe my eyes are playing jokes on me but is it possible to help her? PLS, she is only 1 year old and doesn't deserve to stay like that!

Noticeable here and same with my female elementalists

There is a dark outline and a change to the eyes that gives them this less intelligent look and more HEY GUYS I LIKE SEXY TIME! HIGH FIVE!

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

16 Sep 2006 at 20:33 - 408

Interesting: Gaile completely dodged the "stylist" question making only a mention that it's not an issue of...

Let's try again worded differently out of respect for another person rather than a customer and fellow gamer:

To Gaile G. or Alex W. - Since the new looks on the character may not appeal to some people (fellow indiviudals who share a game interest); is Ant planning on adding in the feature to enable changing the character looks? This is a highly requested "feature"* and now would be a great time to add it in.

* This is a "feature" and not new content, and according to Anet, global features such as this will be free and availble to all - pending Anet renaming said feature as new content or simply calling it an option.

My consern now, seeing that the question was completely dodged and since I worded it politely and in good measure, is that my "sarcastic joke" about Anet charging for a stylist (ala Maple Story) might indeed be something Anet is looking into. Care to debunk that consern or at least shed some light on this?

Thanks in advance for taking the time to respond.

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

16 Sep 2006 at 20:43 - 409

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasAGuest

hehe, no I meant Giving the players the ablility to change the characters looks via an interface or NPC or something. With the new looks those that do not like the new looks should be able to change "faces" and "hair" to something they do like.
Now that some characters no longer look like they used to when the players made them, Anet should finally release this mythical "stylist" and allow the players to self-"fix" and adjust their characters. Some of these characters are not exactly PvP only characters that can be re-rolled instantly with titles, amount of exp and armor in a five minute time frame. Some are over a year old with millions of exp (my ranger for example has 3 million exp, both protector titles and more - I would be ticked if she were suddenly ugly -hehe).

You mean you want an in game plastice surgeon I thought there was a suggestion for that?Check out Sardalac.

koa_Torqual

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

W/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 20:48 - 410

After reading Gaile's post I am going to give up on this. So, the changes are corrections of bugs, and there will be no roll back. We are all overreacting.

Just remember, no-one asked A-Net to change our characters' appearance. This situation is of A-Net's making and - though players appreciate their efforts to mitigate it - it's not right for an A-Net employee to make us feel guilty for voicing dissatisfaction with something we don't like and didn't ask for. When you enforce changes on customers without warning you run this risk. A-Net have been in control of this, they made the decision to do it, and the choice of how to handle it has also been theirs. Personally I refuse to feel guilty. It's made out like we asked the art team to work the weekend to fix our character's faces. A-Net decided to change them in the first place, and made the change on a Friday. The subsequent problems could have been avoided by not messing in the first place with faces people had been using for over a year. Please A-Net don't blame consumers for your mistakes. No company that does this is ever right.

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

16 Sep 2006 at 20:54 - 411

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

You mean you want an in game plastice surgeon I thought there was a suggestion for that?Check out Sardalac.

Read again my question and take special note to whom it is addressed please. No offence, but I am looking for an official word on it, not more speculation or hopeful wishing from fellow posters. I'm also not looking for opponants towards highly requested features to reference other games nor am I seeking flameboys with no opinion outside of their own closed state of minds to bait and flame to try and close the thread.
I have also seen in Sanitarium the many (note MANY) requests for this feature there; I even reference it in my question as having seen the request before.
Again, I am happy with the changes on my characters as I can't really tell a difference. But for those who are not happy with, now would be a good time to put in a highly requested feature.

Edit: I took what Gaile said as a good thing, so I'm not complaining at the reason behind the change. It's a good change for the better of the game. I'm asking for (again) official word on whether the option to change appearance to a more appealing one (for those who are not happy with the looks now or before) is now in the works to offset this. Now would be a great time to put it in whether via a /command switch (ala EQ) or some NPC that can do it. We know GW Devs can put a NPC in really fast to alter shield stats (crimson carapce anyone?), so why it can't be done quickly with "looks" is really beyond me... again, unless they are planning on adaopting Maple Story business model and charging people for eye candy rather than content.

deathnite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 21:03 - 412

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoudeous

so your guoing to coplain about such a slight change when 1 you wont be looking at your characters face while playing and 2 wouldnt be up that close.

seriously, its not like they gave you a totally new face, they just made it functional. The new face actualy looks better as teh old one doesnt even have the shape of a real human head.

"oh no anets the devil for changing my face for the better, why couldnt i keep the old horrible one"

Im sure you would also complain if your character had the old face yet looked retarded in cutscenes when its mouth moved.

most of you arnt even taking the before and after pictures in the same lighting sources.

this is all funny as hell. I bet all of you can't recognize clark kent as superman becasue he has glasses

i think the people who have instiagted this are the people who dont have problems with their chars or in other cases like the new changes on their chars, again thats great you might like the changes, but take into consideration the people who are upset and fustrated over this, a lot of peoples chars who are messed up happen to be their favorite and most played chars and were made over a year ago, with the most time and money invested into it. and to have that char changed really does make a difference to some people, i kno for myself my ele doesnt feel like my ele anymore, why not understand how others are feeling before u make stupid comments and posts to others who are upset about their chars

luinks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Purple Ravens

Mo/E

16 Sep 2006 at 21:35 - 413

my buns are still giant!

just kidding

i dont know if they fixed it, i can see a difference still, but not so noticeable in the size, maybe i cant see the change anymore

Moiax

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Pink Animal Clan

E/

16 Sep 2006 at 21:41 - 414

It may look minor to some, but you're not the person who opens the client every day. I opened it, and this was the first thing I noticed. I think it's great that they are getting the faces ready for movement, but I'm not a very big fan of the racoon eyes.

This may be another topic, but why do the tats always reset to default colors after logging the character out?

Frostlight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

16 Sep 2006 at 21:53 - 415

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

About Eyes: Character eyes were not touched. No redrawn eyeliner. No accentuated features. Nothing at all. What was changed was a bug, a glitch, an error, that had lighting placed differently (incorrectly) below the eyes. So the eyes were always designed with the "eyeliner" that some of you have noted. With the corrections, the eyes are now more balanced between upper and lower lid; they have a full eyelid instead of a faded area near the bottom lid. So the new look to the eyes is not an error, this is the correction of an error. Obviously, we won't roll back to "readopt an error" in order to address personal preference. (If you look carefully at the "before" shots, there's a disturbing discordance in the colouration above and below the eye. There's a fuzziness and a blurring, even a lacking of certain art elements near the bottom lid. And that is what has been fixed.)

While personally I'm not really bothered by the updates, and appreciates the hard work being done by the artists, that line of reasoning somehow reminds me of George "now that I have improved technology, this was what I've meant to make all along!" Lucas.

With the bug/glitch corrected around the eyes, isn't it still possible to update the design so that the net effect comes to resemble the original look? (if it's too difficult, that's a different problem).

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Scene: Restaurant

Customer: Hey, this soup tastes funny. It used to be just right, now it's too salty.

Manager: Oh, yes. We found that the chef had been using less salt than what's on our recipe. We've now hired a new chef who uses the right amount of ingredients.

Customer: But I've been having this soup for years and I like the way it used to taste. Can't you change the recipe and put in less salt than before?

Manager: No, that would make the recipe incorrect.

Customer: ...

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

16 Sep 2006 at 21:56 - 416

From the 2 Monks above from what I can see is that of the Factions log in screen as to before and the now is just the Nightfall.I would say it is just the new enhanced features in it as well as the lighting.

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

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16 Sep 2006 at 22:04 - 417

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathnite

i think the people who have instiagted this are the people who dont have problems with their chars or in other cases like the new changes on their chars, again thats great you might like the changes, but take into consideration the people who are upset and fustrated over this, a lot of peoples chars who are messed up happen to be their favorite and most played chars and were made over a year ago, with the most time and money invested into it. and to have that char changed really does make a difference to some people, i kno for myself my ele doesnt feel like my ele anymore, why not understand how others are feeling before u make stupid comments and posts to others who are upset about their chars

nope my faces got it just like everyone else, its just that they look almsot exactly the same, so im not complaining.

people have yet to realize that all that was changed physically was the mouth, the rest is the lighting. And the lighting was something that did have a problem.

and to al those who are saying it affects them cause they have to look at the character everyday. Well you must not be playing the game and just siting in outposts all day, cause during gameplay you shouldnt be that upclose to your face. Not to mention that when you are in an outpsot your model is shown at a lower res to other people anyway so they wouldnt notice.

this is the stupidest thing in the world to complain about. If you dont like it then stop supporting anet and quit. go play barbie fashion model all day cause its obvious your not here to play an RPG

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 22:11 - 418

One id like to say:

If Anet only setup lipsynching with expansions from 3 on up, and didnt update older models unless they had the expansion, people would seriously complain.

Ombrepierre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

France

Les Jumelles Ecarlates [RP]

W/

16 Sep 2006 at 22:14 - 419

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostlight

With the bug/glitch corrected around the eyes, isn't it still possible to update the design so that the net effect comes to resemble the original look? (if it's too difficult, that's a different problem).

I agree, and hope that the thing is possible...
I understand the last message of Gaile. The light of original model was an error. But for a lot of players, the characters seemed with their advantage.
So, the Frostlight's idea would allow to satisfy all the community : try to find the original design (before the last update of the 9/15) with good lighting on eyes and lips...

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 22:17 - 420

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ombrepierre

I agree, and hope that the thing is possible...
I understand the last message of Gaile. The light of original model was an error. But for a lot of players, the characters seemed with their advantage.
So, the Frostlight's idea would allow to satisfy all the community : try to find the original design (before the last update of the 9/15) with good lighting on eyes and lips...

I agree. We don't want the glitch again, just its effects. If they can be replicated while having the lighting working, so much the better.

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

16 Sep 2006 at 22:27 - 421

Why waste so much human resources to "undo" things that are so meaningless such as tiny changes on an ele's lips and eyes...... Most of them look fine and even better to me. Anet did a nice job adding new features and people should seriously stop whinning about these small changes and move on.

The only 3 screenshots I feel they have the right to cry are ducky ele lips, crying panda-eye mesm, and the "too much drug" mesm faces.

Cherrie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Echowald

Marked by [Fury]

Me/

16 Sep 2006 at 22:37 - 422

well how about my rotting-teeth mesmer http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...2&postcount=67 ... She hasn't improved since the update at all, still looks like she lacked basic mouth hygiene and I really really hate that... Can I please get her teeth back to some normal healthy color please?

And no I'm not exaggerating, she looks like that in every possible lightingh fromn every possible angle that shows the space between her mouth.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

16 Sep 2006 at 22:40 - 423

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moiax

This may be another topic, but why do the tats always reset to default colors after logging the character out?

Don't know, but it happens a lot to my necro for some reason...

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 22:43 - 424

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misa

Why waste so much human resources to "undo" things that are so meaningless such as tiny changes on an ele's lips and eyes...... Most of them look fine and even better to me. Anet did a nice job adding new features and people should seriously stop whinning about these small changes and move on.

The only 3 screenshots I feel they have the right to cry are ducky ele lips, crying panda-eye mesm, and the "too much drug" mesm faces.

I'm assuming my Mesmer's case is one of the last two. You'd have to be blind to call his change tiny.

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

16 Sep 2006 at 22:48 - 425

I agree that the mesmer's teeth really do need to be fixed. A male warrior, fine, but we all know that mesmers actually have some concept of personal hygiene, leaving the poor girl with teeth like that is just an insult both to the person and the profession.

In other news, I've not had a problem with the "new" look, all it looks like is that the res has been cleaned up in the face textures. With the notable exceptions of the over-enhanced lips and a couple of others who showed obvious changes, I think a good few people in the thread are overreacting, the pics they post show clarity and not much change.

Lynxius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

16 Sep 2006 at 22:48 - 426

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Don't know, but it happens a lot to my necro for some reason...

Happens to my monks tats as well.

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

16 Sep 2006 at 22:51 - 427

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus

Happens to my monks tats as well.

Same. But this is minor; if my Mesmer only looked disturbing on the char select screen, I wouldn't be complaining.

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

16 Sep 2006 at 23:50 - 428

Yeah, the mesmer thing is not only ugly, it's baffling. What caused. So the lighting on the eyes is fixed? I am grateful for that, thank you ANet. But now can you fix the lighting on the necks of countless male mesmers? It's obviously not 'fixed' in its current state, I'm afraid... if lighting has no effect on this shadow thing ringing the bottom of male mesmers' heads while lighting on most other faces had been improved, it's broken. I'd like to be even more grateful!

As for the warrior bald spots... I'm still eagerly waiting on that one with crossed fingers. It's 15 months overdue for a fix! I've been asking about a fix for it for months now, and I know I'm not the only one.

Anyway, good work so far, my character's faces haven't changed much, but I think it's for the better, and it seems that way for most (but clearly not all) faces. I'm sure it's very difficult getting all this just right. I don't expect perfection, but I'm confident ANet can address most of the complaints in this thread.

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

17 Sep 2006 at 00:09 - 429

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ombrepierre

I agree, and hope that the thing is possible...
I understand the last message of Gaile. The light of original model was an error. But for a lot of players, the characters seemed with their advantage.
So, the Frostlight's idea would allow to satisfy all the community : try to find the original design (before the last update of the 9/15) with good lighting on eyes and lips...

Yes, that would work very nicely. I understand they were trying to help by fixing the lighting beneath the eyes, but unfortunately that makes it LOOK like most characters are wearing eyeliner now, even if the art team did not add eyeliner or anything to change the eye art. That's what's pissing people off. So if fixing the lighting bug makes the eyes appear to have heavy eyeliner, and people are complaining "hey I didn't pick loads of eyeliner, please make it go away!" perhaps they should change the art so that it looks eyeliner-free with the new fix to the eye lighting.

What people are essentially asking for is to make their characters look the way they did before the face updates, which is not unreasonable, especially if all they have to do is remove whatever detail is making it look like the character is wearing eyeliner. Not that hard. They do still need to fix the duck-lips and the faces that continue to have the runny-mascara effect in direct light, that's just awful and hideous, and they should fix it unconditionally.

One more thing, I would like to post my assassin

She used to have this nice smirk that I enjoyed, now she doesn't really have a facial expression. If her lips were closed a bit more it would help.

I'm pretty lucky, the only changes I got were more eyeliner on my warrior and my ele, and an open mouth on my monk and assassin, on which it only looks unpleasantly different for the assassin. The 2nd face update did fix this problem with my warrior where there was a bunch of pink stuff around her eyes and her lipstick was kind of orange, but now she looks much better and only has the eyeliner issue; my ele's faces was also very pointy and narrow but got fixed, so thanks! I am personally not crushed over the addition of what appears to be eyeliner on my characters that got it, but on some other faces I've seen it does look bad, and it especially looks bad on males, so if they undo the eyeliner look that's totally fine with me.

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

17 Sep 2006 at 00:18 - 430

These pics show my problem with my warrior. Her mouth never used to be open. And I doubt anyone would say she looks fine. Looks like she was beaten with the dumb stick. I just want her mouth closed like it was before. Does not matter what lighting I use her mouth still looks like that under every condition. I do not have any before pics. Wished I did.

http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw055vx8.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw058ev0.jpg

Have to click on the pics a few times to get max resolution.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Sep 2006 at 00:34 - 431

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathnite

i found an error on some ele faces but not all of them, i checked the face under different lighting and it doesnt go away, this must be a facial error tho, on the top upper portion of the lips its really really choppy, the first pic and second one are under different lighting too, please fix this

....the choppiness wasnt here be4 the update and i dont see why lips should be choppy for any reason :\

Thank you for your image examples. I'll bundle them into a new packet of screenshots for the Art Team, to save them time in reviewing any possible glitches.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasAGuest

Interesting: Gaile completely dodged the "stylist" question making only a mention that it's not an issue of... Let's try again worded differently out of respect for another person rather than a customer and fellow gamer: To Gaile G. or Alex W. - Since the new looks on the character may not appeal to some people (fellow indiviudals who share a game interest); is Ant planning on adding in the feature to enable changing the character looks? This is a highly requested "feature"* and now would be a great time to add it in.

Answered earlier. This is not something that we can offer at this time, even while we appreciate the popularity of the request. There is a very focused design list, and with Nightfall less than six weeks away, we cannot divert the significant resources that a "face changer" element would require in order to offer it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherrie

well how about my rotting-teeth mesmer http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...2&postcount=67 ... She hasn't improved since the update at all, still looks like she lacked basic mouth hygiene and I really really hate that... Can I please get her teeth back to some normal healthy color please? And no I'm not exaggerating, she looks like that in every possible lightingh fromn every possible angle that shows the space between her mouth.

I understand. I will pass along your example, too.

And luinks, you almost gave me a heart attack with that "enhanced" image. You rascal.

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

17 Sep 2006 at 00:44 - 432

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Thank you for your image examples. I'll bundle them into a new packet of screenshots for the Art Team, to save them time in reviewing any possible glitches.

Thanks a million, Gaile! My kingdom for you if that bald spot goes away!

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Sep 2006 at 01:00 - 433

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJM

Thanks a million, Gaile! My kingdom for you if that bald spot goes away!

Have you tried the "growover thing" You know, the guy with the three hairs that are 17 inches long, which he winds around and tries to cover... aw, never mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koa_Torqual

Please A-Net don't blame consumers for your mistakes. No company that does this is ever right.

Honestly, koa-Torqual, I'm quite sure that we are not doing so! We had mistakes in the faces, and they were corrected as quickly as humanly possible. I think a few errors remain, and I have every confidence that they, too, will be corrected. But we can't roll back time if that means closing mouths that have been readied for the much-requested feature of speech, nor add back a lighting error that overlighted the lower lids, or that makes the art look different then, and now.

I really do understand that some characters look different than what you originally chose. I totally understand that you might have made a different choice if you had been able to see the real art, and not the bugged one. I love the new eyes; I totally and completely understand that some of you do not.

I don't want anyone to think we're less than sympathetic with this situation. As I have said, I care about my characters' appearance a lot and I feel what you feel! But the alternatives being proposed by the community are not do-able. If we reasonably could add such options, we would, but truly they are not possible. With respect, as I stated a day or two ago, we will continue to address errors, but must ask for your understanding about the changes that will remain.

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

17 Sep 2006 at 01:08 - 434

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Have you tried the "growover thing" You know, the guy with the three hairs that are 17 inches long, which he winds around and tries to cover... aw, never mind.

No, haven't seen that yet, which town is it in?

Skids

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK FTW

R/Mo

17 Sep 2006 at 01:27 - 435

It seems to me that I detect a change of tone as Gailes posts progress through this thread. Whilst I can sympathise that it is frustrating to be "faced" with so many complaints when you are trying to implement a beneficial change to the game, its worth realising that some may only have just noticed changes, and a lot of us are feeling even more annoyed by the people posting to say "stp complaining - the faces look ok".

@ Gaile: I do not see why the lighting cannot be changed back. Please could you explain why this cannot be done, if this is the main reason for the facial changes?

You say that the lighting is changed to correct an eror that has been around for a while, but lets be honest about this; none of us players knew the lighting was wrong did we? Its therefore not so much an error as a change for the sake of it.

Scenario: I buy a nice car with what the dealer says is a Sunburnt Red paint finish. Im perfectly happy with it and drive around for a while. then the dealer contacts me and says I have to return it because the colour of the car is in fact Suntanned Red. They give me a new car that is Sunburnt Red but I like the original car better because I got used to it.

Kedlai Everwinter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where Iz Teh Bonuz

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17 Sep 2006 at 01:36 - 436

Quote:

Originally Posted by czymann

These pics show my problem with my warrior. Her mouth never used to be open. And I doubt anyone would say she looks fine. Looks like she was beaten with the dumb stick. I just want her mouth closed like it was before. Does not matter what lighting I use her mouth still looks like that under every condition. I do not have any before pics. Wished I did.

http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw055vx8.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw058ev0.jpg

Have to click on the pics a few times to get max resolution.

Seconded, close mouth please!

Honestly though, Gaile, is it -really- that much of a big deal to close mouths slightly, to move them back closer to what they used to be like? I know that it's not possible to make them exactly as they used to be.

In other words: is it -impossible- to close the mouths again?

That said, I'm not normally one to gripe, and -please- don't think I'm complaining, I'm simply seeking clarification

As for the obligatory compliment: The new eyes look damn nice.. my character has these beeeaautiful brown eyes now o_o

EDIT: Actually, I just loaded up GW and had another look at Ked, her mouth seems to have been closed a bit more (It's still slightly open, but not the :B look previously). I guess it's just time for me to get used to the new face!

Lynxius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

17 Sep 2006 at 01:50 - 437

The player Comunity apreciates the fact that some faces got corrected.

However, its amazing how this particular 16 month's issue was utterlly ignored(because I posted it here in this same thread,before, along with another player having the same problem) and still hasnt been fixed:

Baldness aint my thing.

Even still, ive waited since i created this character, which was 15 months ago, for this minor anoying problem (which isnt satisfying at all, seeing your character with a bald huge spot on the head each time he walks) to be fixed.

Il stop posting here concerning this particular problem for now, at least until this problem is heard, and that the player comunity is told that a fix is on its way.

And what makes me think Arena Net will even take what I just typed into consideration?

Nothing, but i might as well try my best to help notice the anet team on certain minor things(which do matter alot, after all, detail is For the Win) they should improve/fix, for the good of the whole community of this wonderfull game called Guildwars.

I hope I was clear, and formal enough for your understanding, Miss Gray.

Regards.

-Lynxius

deathnite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Mo

17 Sep 2006 at 02:20 - 438

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Thank you for your image examples. I'll bundle them into a new packet of screenshots for the Art Team, to save them time in reviewing any possible glitches.

ty gaile

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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17 Sep 2006 at 02:21 - 439

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Answered earlier. This is not something that we can offer at this time, even while we appreciate the popularity of the request. There is a very focused design list, and with Nightfall less than six weeks away, we cannot divert the significant resources that a "face changer" element would require in order to offer it.

I am glad you pointed this out.

Though personally i did not suffer too badly from the face updates, and would be buying Nightfall purely from what i have read from PC gamer, But i am not too sure about those whose characters has now been suddenly and abruptly distorted after playing them for so long about their inclinations for the next chapter since players have been known to leave games at the wimps of lesser things.

Your honesty is appreciated yet how this will affect sales only time will tell.

Sooner is better than Later is all i have to say about the face changer issue.

Lynxius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

17 Sep 2006 at 02:35 - 440

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

I am glad you pointed this out.

Though personally i did not suffer too badly from the face updates, and would be buying Nightfall purely from what i have read from PC gamer, But i am not too sure about those whose characters has now been suddenly and abruptly distorted after playing them for so long about their inclinations for the next chapter since players have been known to leave games at the wimps of lesser things.

Your honesty is appreciated yet how this will affect sales only time will tell.

Sooner is better than Later is all i have to say about the face changer issue.

Correct.
As i mentioned earlier, small tiny Details do matter a whole lot, and they can indeed ruin gameplay, and therefore, give a bad first impression on future sales.