Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer! (No Map checks!)

Myster Grim

Myster Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

GMT -5

Band of the H A W K

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vel
Stuck at 99.5%. Will someone be kind enough to look at my stiched up UMap and tell me where I am missing .5%. I have not finished the game yet so, Chantry area is not unlocked yet.

Will really appreciate your help. Please.


Thanks,

Vel
Now my eyes are blood shoot from trying to find my remaining .6 left. It seems to me you have a little fuss SE of The Astralarium and some more in the Vehtend Valley around the Large Island in the Northern half. How do you make the Stitched U map?

Isfit

Isfit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Vienna

D/

Ah yes here's my outzoomed Map. Pls help me, I dont have Photoshop

Vel

Vel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myster Grim
Now my eyes are blood shoot from trying to find my remaining .6 left. It seems to me you have a little fuss SE of The Astralarium and some more in the Vehtend Valley around the Large Island in the Northern half. How do you make the Stitched U map? Thanks man. But no luck. I have not uncovered anything after 2 hours of trying in those areas. Either I am doing soemthing wrong or I did not understand the area you are referring to. I used photoshop and took print screens and then layered them up using difference blending. Hope it makes sense.

Thanks,

Vel

ennea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Allies for Luxon Execution

R/Mo

hey guys. my image is too big for imageshack so i uploaded it on megaupload.com. i've uncovered 99.4% so far. i tried Luxa's method but i couldn't spot any differences. <.< my monitor can't support resolutions higher than 1024x768 so this is the only image. please help. >.<

here's the linky: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7Y77GMWH ty^^

DynaBlue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

California

SBT

W/N

Just got my Elonian GMC today. I don't know if there is any more that can be mapped but I haven't even done The Ruins of Morah so I can't get into the Mouth of Torment or the end area by the Chantry of Secrets.

I found this title to be easier to get than either the Tyrian or Canthan GMC; I didn't even have to do endless map comparisons or go hunting for that nagging last .1%; it just worked out that I hit 100% as I ran out of visible fog. Now to work on the PoE title...

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
Just a quick question---how do you map the north-western area in the citadel at pogahn passage--the area by the western birdge. I have a little fog there but cannot reach it in mission / out mission. Please lead me in the right direction, thanks. Could you post a pic April? When I get home tonight I'll post a picture of that area, and maybe we can find what you're missing.

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

woot.



Thanks again to SilentVex for getting me to 99%.

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

[L] [GET]

As many of you know, I am currently trying to bench mark what each area of the Elona map is worth.

Just got finished mapping the starter Isle with an Elonian character.

I ended up with 21.9%

Some people have posted that they got 22% or even a little more. Can anyone confirm this with absolute certainty?

Livingston

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

^When I mapped it out with my tyrian it turned out .2 or .3 less than that Livingston. Would the tutorial are account for the difference?


Also. If you post a map, and request for someone to look at it, do not post it a second (or third or FOURTH) time until someone has had a chance to look at it and respond to your request. I will delete any duplicate requests. This thread is a enormous help to alot of people, but at the moment alot of people are in the same boat as far as their mapping goes. It will take some time to get to everyone, so do not make it more difficult by posting your maps/needs/questions multiple times.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

I skiped the tutorial and got 21.9% off starter island, If thats the max then i can srop worrying about starter island and try to find the last 6% on the main land. Can any one confrim that only the desert challange mission counts to the map.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

Spike: it does(Ruins of Sahlahja) and it gives you a pretty big chunk

anyways I got my EGMC (giving me KoaBD) last weekend.....

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
I skiped the tutorial and got 21.9% off starter island, If thats the max then i can srop worrying about starter island and try to find the last 6% on the main land. Can any one confrim that only the desert challange mission counts to the map. Hmm, I did the tutorial just to make sure I got everything I could. Maybe I've missed a spot somewhere. I'll have to triple check it, and post the shots if I can't find it.

Livingston

Edit: Here are my maps, anyone see a spot I'm missing?

Map 1
Map 2
Map 3

There may be a spot I am missing to the east of Fahrunur, but I'm not positive.

Edit 2: Got it, but it didn't give me 22% - still 21.9

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

Anyone know how much that desert challenge mission adds to your maped % ? and does the sunspear arena on starter count as well?

I think it maybe that some people are includeing the 4th mission as part of starter island which in my opinion it should'nt be. Maybe this is where thier geting the extras tenths.

Its possable you missing a lil bit north of Kamadan.

dwc89

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

earth

Hey,

At 98% and a little stumped. Could use some help. I do know that I need to get some of the challenge mission mapped - but what is left is not 2%.


Thanks in adavance
ign - Huntress Velasca

darktemplar32489

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

[kiSu]

W/

http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw238zu1.png

im at 96.5% but cant find any place to explore
ill pay 20k to know where i am missing

kyrasantae

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

Echo of Darkness [EOD]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Anyone know how much that desert challenge mission adds to your maped % ? and does the sunspear arena on starter count as well? The Sunspear Arena definitely counts. Even if you are past level 10 you can still map the lobby area.

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
I skiped the tutorial and got 21.9% off starter island, If thats the max then i can srop worrying about starter island and try to find the last 6% on the main land. Can any one confrim that only the desert challange mission counts to the map.
Did you get your total while you were still on the isle or did you tally it after you had been transported to the new area on the mainland?

Also, does anyone have a copy of Silent Vex's map? The link to it is currently broken, so I have put Zophar’s on the front page, however he's missing quite a few areas on the starter isle.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Anyone know how much that desert challenge mission adds to your maped % ? and does the sunspear arena on starter count as well?

I think it maybe that some people are includeing the 4th mission as part of starter island which in my opinion it should'nt be. Maybe this is where thier geting the extras tenths.

Its possable you missing a lil bit north of Kamadan. I'm not counting Consulate Docks mission as that is indeed on the main land.

So did you have 21.7 without that bit, and without the tutorial area?

Livingston

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

Thanks for the 100% maps that I got to compare too only piece of advice I have to give is WALL HUGG and GET IN THE CORNERS!!!!! and wiggle back and forth most common missed area people are also not doing is the "Remains of Sahlahja" challenge mission with the wurm

Cashane

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayla Slays
Grrr. This is exactly the thread I was looking for, but my Tyrian Character has 21.5% of noob/starter island. (She has 99.6% of Cantha , 97.7% Tyria). So is your ele a new char- with all of the tutorial area exposed? I have not done the consulate mission with this character yet because it takes you off the island - I was looking for a true starter Island mapping benchmark, so that might be .4% (ish) I can hope! I think that 21,5% for starter island (not included the docks mission) is correct.
Here is my counts, I will update as I do other areas :

Shekah + Churnir Fields : 1,1%
Kamadan : 0,3 -> 1,4%
Plains of Jarin+Sunspear Hall+Astrolarium + Champion's Dawn : 3% -> 4,4%
Cliffs of Dohjok+Jokanur Diggings : 2,8% -> 7,2%
Zehlon Reach : 3,1% -> 10,3%
Fahranur + Blacktide Den : 3,1% -> 13,4%
Beknur Harbor + Issnur Isles + Kodlonu Hamlet : 3,2% -> 16,6%
Lahtenda Bog : 2,6% -> 19,2%
Metani Keys : 2,3% -> 21,5%

I'm pretty positive I didn't miss any 0,1%.

Edit : nm.. seems I missed a whole 0,4%. Pretty amazed as I've literraly covered each area with red trails (along with hugging the walls in each city/village as well).. If anyone else took %s for each areas, I d be glad to know where I might have missed something. Are there % you can get in missions and not in the explorables?

Sureshot Kenny

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

URU-Ages Beyond Myst (URU)

R/Mo

I don't have Photoshop so is there a tutorial for using LuXa's method with Paint Shop Pro 7? It has layers but I've never used them. I have GMC for Cantha but only 92.3% for Tyria and 90.6% for Elona and need to find where to clear.

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

Livingston: Here's my map.

I took a look at your noob island maps and the only obvious differences were the places I couldn't get (starter area and inside arena). The only other possible place I saw was outside the very SE town. Go out the west exit, and follow the left wall all the way to the SE corner of the zone by the 8 sided boat thing. If that doesn't get you a bit, blame it on the jpeg fuzz (it was nearly impossible to compare the water...).

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
Livingston: Here's my map.

I took a look at your noob island maps and the only obvious differences were the places I couldn't get (starter area and inside arena). The only other possible place I saw was outside the very SE town. Go out the west exit, and follow the left wall all the way to the SE corner of the zone by the 8 sided boat thing. If that doesn't get you a bit, blame it on the jpeg fuzz (it was nearly impossible to compare the water...). Right about to leave. Thank you for checking. I'll post the bitmaps for yah as well.

And I'll upload the map as soon as I get back.

Thanks again,
Livingston

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

Desert mission (challenge) DOES count towards 100% as does the sunpear arena as for people that are NOT from ELONA you DONT NEED all of starter island to have 100%

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
Livingston: Here's my map.

I took a look at your noob island maps and the only obvious differences were the places I couldn't get (starter area and inside arena). The only other possible place I saw was outside the very SE town. Go out the west exit, and follow the left wall all the way to the SE corner of the zone by the 8 sided boat thing. If that doesn't get you a bit, blame it on the jpeg fuzz (it was nearly impossible to compare the water...). Since you didn't give any names here was my best guess:



Was this the place you meant?

Livingston

Sprites

Sprites

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

royaume de la lumi??re :D

LOGW

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
BTW guys After I already had the map compiled and was doing the Map ID numbers for the Xfire plugin and I found this. lol
I noticed we all forgot to add it. lol

Oh well...

I'll add it back in later...

how do you get to that arena? found nothing :/

i'm around 76% now

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

I'm sure I got my 21.9% BEFORE I did the docks mission and with out the tutorial and sunspear arena. Someone on here posted that the starter island was 22%. So when I got to 21.9% I assumed that the tutorial was the missing 0.1%

Sujoy

Sujoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

In Livia's Cleavage (.)ME(.)

The Early Monk Heals The Worm [EMHW]

Mo/

your 100% maps are missing Sunspear Arena!

cba

cba

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

You Touch My Tra [LaLa]

Rt/N

Nothing sucks more than to get 99.9% Elona, and then stare countless hours at pre-made maps by the current Cartographers. I finally made 100% after about 5 hours of scraping areas that probably had 1 pixel uncovered. After that, and a few beers later, I think Anet took pity on me, and gave me my Grandmaster title. I didn't uncover anything, but perhaps the title could come down to ever the tiniest pixels on the Umap. I swear I would have jumped off my building if I couldn't find that elusive .1%!!! =P

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

well im now at 99.4%. I have every location which exists, including the arena. But being tyrian in birth I cant use it.

Im completely and utterly stuffed as where to look.

comparing maps hasnt helped.

I even opened the map in GWs and the 100% I have in paintshoppro and compared them accross screens. Still nothing.

Having already 100% in the other day, i know this could take a while.

But I got my KOABD title yesterday and I want to add it

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sujoy
your 100% maps are missing Sunspear Arena!
That's because they were not mapped by Elonians, which are the only ones who can access it (unless you manage to get a foreign character to Elonia under 10th level).

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
well im now at 99.4%. I have every location which exists, including the arena. But being tyrian in birth I cant use it.

Im completely and utterly stuffed as where to look.

comparing maps hasnt helped.

I even opened the map in GWs and the 100% I have in paintshoppro and compared them accross screens. Still nothing.

Having already 100% in the other day, i know this could take a while.

But I got my KOABD title yesterday and I want to add it Comparing across screens is worthless as your brain can not store the data as perfectly as it can when you tab in and out with an overlay. I hope you were using the overlay method first...

Livingston

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livingston
Was this the place you meant? That was exactly the place I meant. Make sure you've hugged the wall by the res shrine there. If that didn't net you anything, then you'll have to wait until Monday when I can compare your bmp's with mine. Sorry if that sounds dirty.

Cashane

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Rt/Me

I hadn't visited the Sunspear Arena, I just tried but it didn't give any %.
If my memory serves me well, the tutorial area (Island of Shehkah) granted 0,2%, but maybe a part of it is already uncovered when you go in Chahbek Village.

woundedfighter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

FL

W/

99.5

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Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]



My third Grandmaster Cartographer!

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
That was exactly the place I meant. Make sure you've hugged the wall by the res shrine there. If that didn't net you anything, then you'll have to wait until Monday when I can compare your bmp's with mine. Sorry if that sounds dirty. Yeah I hugged the hell out of all the walls around there and nothing...

;_;

If there is more than 21.9% on the starter Island I have no idea where the rest is...

Livingston

fibassassin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

FiB

W/E

Hi Guys

Im just so stuck on 98.6% me and my wife has been going over and over the maps, but i cant seem to find the missing spot.

Livingstone Great work on helping people, this time im calling for help.

And congrats to all of the 100% Granny's

cba

cba

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

You Touch My Tra [LaLa]

Rt/N

1.4% is a huge chunk missing. You should be able to find many spots when you look at Livingston's maps. Hell, I was able to stare at his maps and pick up parts that were .1% in three areas, giving me 99.9% total. Once you hit that, GL on the rest.

Post a copy of your map and I'll see if I can offer suggestions as to where you need.

fibassassin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

FiB

W/E

cba

I feel like a map already, lol

Hope these will help

*EDIT*

thx so much

cba

cba

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

You Touch My Tra [LaLa]

Rt/N

Sorry man, I can't see the details on your maps. You're gonna need to bump up the size so I can get a better look. When you're talking about .1% pieces, that makes it all the harder.

fibassassin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

FiB

W/E

Sunspear Arena just gave me 0.1%