In principal I'm against this. This is the WoW-ing of GW. It's one thing if it's for vanity....which is what titles always have been. Now, farming/grinding for countless hours gives you that advantage. I suppose we really just need to see how this plays itself out.
Having said that.....I am very curious, as I have a warrior who has dual GM Cartographers and Protector titles, and has all elites capped to this point (thus is poised to get KoaBD shortly after NF).
Titles With Effects: Good or Bad?
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I personally don't think it's that big of a deal. If you're that worried about someone possibly putting in an enormous amount of time and effort to be rewarded with a slight bonus that you won't have, then you are way to serious about this game.
Regarding the Lightbringer, the quote stated that it is a PvE only title that gives bonus damage against demons. Last I knew, players couldn't be demons so even a PvE character taken into PvP won't benefit.
And if there happens to be some title that increases critical chances that's useable in PvP, I highly doubt they'd let it be much. Doing so would disrupt gameplay, and you know as well as I that A-net has worked their butts off to keep everything in this game series balanced. Besides, if you're that jealous of the slight bonus, then stop complaining and play the damn game and get it yourself!
I think some of you really need to relax and be patient. It is, afterall, just a game...
Regarding the Lightbringer, the quote stated that it is a PvE only title that gives bonus damage against demons. Last I knew, players couldn't be demons so even a PvE character taken into PvP won't benefit.
And if there happens to be some title that increases critical chances that's useable in PvP, I highly doubt they'd let it be much. Doing so would disrupt gameplay, and you know as well as I that A-net has worked their butts off to keep everything in this game series balanced. Besides, if you're that jealous of the slight bonus, then stop complaining and play the damn game and get it yourself!
I think some of you really need to relax and be patient. It is, afterall, just a game...
I think it's an AMAZING idea. I know that some people will complain because they want absolutely NO BENEFITS for hours played, but in my opinion this is a good compromise between the extremes of both parties. (No benefits or tons of benefits)
Besides, the titles really make sense if you think about it. If a person has the wisdom title track, then obviously they have spent tons of money and time farming. The title allows them to do what they like with less penalty. Honestly, if you never bother unlocking stuff in PvE this change doesn't affect you in the slightest.
Edit 1: Also, this opens a small version of specialization in "jobs." Now if people want their mods salvaged without losing the weapon, they can go to those in their guild that HAVE the ability to do so. If people want to farm demons, then they can turn to lightbringer members to lead groups. Etc etc.
Edit 2: Furthermore, I think a lot of people are worried about the "elitism" of having titles and not being able to find groups. Don't forget that heroes are being introduced with this change... so the elitism shouldn't be AS MUCH of an issue in PvE as it has been in the past.
Besides, the titles really make sense if you think about it. If a person has the wisdom title track, then obviously they have spent tons of money and time farming. The title allows them to do what they like with less penalty. Honestly, if you never bother unlocking stuff in PvE this change doesn't affect you in the slightest.
Edit 1: Also, this opens a small version of specialization in "jobs." Now if people want their mods salvaged without losing the weapon, they can go to those in their guild that HAVE the ability to do so. If people want to farm demons, then they can turn to lightbringer members to lead groups. Etc etc.
Edit 2: Furthermore, I think a lot of people are worried about the "elitism" of having titles and not being able to find groups. Don't forget that heroes are being introduced with this change... so the elitism shouldn't be AS MUCH of an issue in PvE as it has been in the past.
I absolutely love the idea! This will add a new depth to PvE!
There's really no reason to complain, it's one of the coolest additions to the game imho. I just can't see any way it can be unbalanced as the extra bonuses are very minor and 'niche'
I' can't wait to see what bonuses will the "People Know Me" title give
There's really no reason to complain, it's one of the coolest additions to the game imho. I just can't see any way it can be unbalanced as the extra bonuses are very minor and 'niche'
I' can't wait to see what bonuses will the "People Know Me" title give
I like it, it's... different.
As long as it doesn't touch PvP, it's fine with me.
I doubt Anet is going to implement anything that would be overly ridiculous, and minor bonuses don't bother me much
I'm not rich, and I can't afford to grind out most titles to a very high level, but...
I'm not really thinking about it as a competition. I play with guild members, friends, and henchmen most of the time, and I'm going to run heroes quite a bit as well; If it benefits me, it benefits me. I don't care if it benefits someone else more - my experience is usually completely separate from theirs.
Henchmen and heroes are never going to ditch you because you have less ranks in a certain title, or can't afford fancy armour or weapons. Friends and guild member shouldn't either.
As long as the titles aren't necessary to play, barring a few exceptions (sunspear ranks matter, I think, and it wasn't a huge issue), this shouldn't really matter.
As long as it doesn't touch PvP, it's fine with me.
I doubt Anet is going to implement anything that would be overly ridiculous, and minor bonuses don't bother me much
I'm not rich, and I can't afford to grind out most titles to a very high level, but...
I'm not really thinking about it as a competition. I play with guild members, friends, and henchmen most of the time, and I'm going to run heroes quite a bit as well; If it benefits me, it benefits me. I don't care if it benefits someone else more - my experience is usually completely separate from theirs.
Henchmen and heroes are never going to ditch you because you have less ranks in a certain title, or can't afford fancy armour or weapons. Friends and guild member shouldn't either.
As long as the titles aren't necessary to play, barring a few exceptions (sunspear ranks matter, I think, and it wasn't a huge issue), this shouldn't really matter.
And here I thought I had wasted time getting to the third level in the Wisdom Title Track... 
I *like* this idea; it gives a benefit to dedicated players. Since it's PvE only, I don;t see how it hurts balance at all. It *does* add a bit of grind to the game, but it's voluntary grind, like getting FoW armor.
Good stuff.

I *like* this idea; it gives a benefit to dedicated players. Since it's PvE only, I don;t see how it hurts balance at all. It *does* add a bit of grind to the game, but it's voluntary grind, like getting FoW armor.
Good stuff.
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Buying titles is possibly the worst thing that happened to GW - Not like Drunkard, but buying Golds to ID etc.
I earned my 1st two ranks in wisdom through the help of guildies, some chest running and more. I was happy when i got it - But it makes me sad to think people can just buy that...
Then again ive seen golds go for 1k a piece - and only the Really hardcore players or the Really old players can shell out 250k for some 1nd rank title without thinking about it....I wouldnt
hmmm I seem to have argued with myself....
Decision - I play with guildies or hench (or soon heros) they dont care where my title came from, they do discriminate . I like this idea!
I earned my 1st two ranks in wisdom through the help of guildies, some chest running and more. I was happy when i got it - But it makes me sad to think people can just buy that...
Then again ive seen golds go for 1k a piece - and only the Really hardcore players or the Really old players can shell out 250k for some 1nd rank title without thinking about it....I wouldnt
hmmm I seem to have argued with myself....
Decision - I play with guildies or hench (or soon heros) they dont care where my title came from, they do discriminate . I like this idea!
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People already complaining when they dont know the details... The fact that the wisdom title gives a higher % chance to salvage a mod is minor. It doesnt make them a better player, does it? And we dont know what the chance is. Defualt player chance might be 50% for all we know, and the titles might only add a small amount on top of that such as 15% or something. Or it could be that the maxed out title gives double the chance, but that doesnt effect your gameplay in the slightest. Does it stop you from playing the game? No. Does it stop you from getting good weapons? No. Does it stop you from salvaging a mod? No.
We also dont know the details on the Lightbringer title. If its anything like the Sunspear title then it would probably be earned while working through the game, so most people would have it at a moderate tier anyway by the time they complete the game. And i think you are forgetting something here. Even if it does give a tiny advantage to a character, it isnt limited to that character. Its the team as a whole that benefit from that advantage at the time.
We also dont know the details on the Lightbringer title. If its anything like the Sunspear title then it would probably be earned while working through the game, so most people would have it at a moderate tier anyway by the time they complete the game. And i think you are forgetting something here. Even if it does give a tiny advantage to a character, it isnt limited to that character. Its the team as a whole that benefit from that advantage at the time.
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Geez, 5 pages of replies and based on number of responses, roughly 4 of them look like something chicken little would scream, "OH MY GOD THE SKY IS FALLING". Do you really think that ANet would put a new feature into the game that would suddenly cause the balance to shift in a substantial way? Not very likely. The dev teams are very familiar with what people like, dislike, complain about, etc, and i'm 100% certain that the majority of the concerns already expressed here have been looked into. Not to mention that nobody really has any idea how things are actually going to work. As far as the wisdom title goes, it's really not that hard to get atleast 1 rank in the title. Tell your guildies you're working on it, you'll probably get plenty of item loans to ID.
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