Lightbringer Procession - Note: AFK Farming/Exploit Has been Removed

and this is why titles hold very little merit

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Nah Silver Spook, I was referring not to LB farming groups requiring a high LB title to quickly farm. It would be requiring it for missions that I was referring to. Obviously, when farming anything at all a specific build or group build is preferable. Otherwise we would all sit here and lament that our warriors can't get into UW trap groups.

So I did the Torment farming thing to get to R4 Lightbringer - (round them up in 2 groups, 1 heros, 1 hench, go afk) - and got about 200 pts per hour while asleep. I still want to know how someone got 26000+ points...

same way you did ! you average just near 5k a day that way, so sey they did it for 5 days. bam, 25k. the game has been out for well over a week and that area is not too far in so..

Where in Turais Procession are this tormentors? Don't remember to see him there!

"Tormented Lands" - warrior monsters in roughly the center, around a Whispers Informant who gives the bounty for them. They respawn where they die, so you can get them grouped up by pulling them to one or two locations.

Yep, the best place for them to auto spawn while you afk is the norther west portion of the center of that map. There is a spot where you can get 3 respawn every 2 mins. You park in the right spot and 3 of them will get withing henchie agro. They die very easily. 180 points an hour is slow compared to active farming, but good spot for afking.

Nerfed

glad I didn't update, lol.. 40 or so away from 10k, wee.

*sigh* if those who knew about it had kept their mouths shut it wouldnt have gotten nerfed. I'm glad i found it the day of the release.
hint for the next person who finds an exploit like that..dont tell anyone and it wont get nerfed near as fast if at all.

Why is everyone saying that it got nerfed? What exactly got changed that's not listed in the patch notes?

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Okay, I see what everyone means by the farming getting nerfed. Farming Torment creatures as opposed to respawning Tormented Lands still works though.

The thing they changed was to get rid of the wisper dude that gave you lightbringer points for the kills.

Tormented Lands farm is really slow anyways, only 200~ points an hour, though it was guaranteed to not suddenly end from killing too quickly. I'm pulling in around 450~ points an hour off of Torment creatures.

But you actually have to BE there...was nice going afk and getting points...brings back fond memories weekend afks.

Well it's good for you guys, you shouldn't be doing that anyways. Work for your LB points or don't have them.

Those Tormented Lands were part of a quest arc anyway - once you'd done it they never spawn again...


Shame they removed the Whispers guy (haven't checked but just going on info here) as that was a nice boost whilst doing that arc...

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-->Gert Butterfing
I ran the whole zone when a guildy mentioned this to me and all the priests didn't want to talk to me (rank 8 sunspear so I'm assuming they are all giving sunspear points).
-->AlienFromBeyond
I understand afk farming, was just making a point to those that said you get alot more in other zones that this was to be done while doing homework or sleep or something.
-->Cherno
They spawn regardless if you have the quest, they just stopped spawnning when you finish the quest line.

Ya they took away the Whispers guy. Now there are only priests that give blessing for Sunspear.
And if i find another way to get easy earn for LA points ill post here. Ppl that found out about that trick indirectly helped me to get my rank 3.

I think the basic problem here is this -

Lightbringer's Gaze itself is too powerful (the other one does not seem as much so).

Because Lightbringer's Gaze is too powerful, it excludes other solutions, and makes them weaker by comparison in the areas concerned. In turn, the Lightbringer ranks are obsessed about far more than should be the case (seriously the only title that should be being obsessed about in NF is Sunspear, and that's reasonable, especially at the mainland it isn't too hard to hit rank 8 without needing too much farming - just hug the edges - getting your optimal map scraping in the process - picking up the Sunspear bounties as you get to the rez shrines, and then doing a full clean of the area, you shouldn't need to clear anything more than once or twice to hit Castellan).

It can be a nice thing to give farmers some advantages in return for the effort, but they should be kept small and not vital, as previous advantages have been. Wisdom/TH bonus is nice, but really, it only comes into play with golds, and even then only golds that have multiple mods that you really, really want to salvage, and you probably won't find THAT many of those before you've opened a million chests and ID'd a zillion golds anyway. Top Kurzick and Luxon alliance bonuses are nice, but the Elite Mission is the only really significant one and you can get a taxi anyway even if you didn't farm (the discount merchants are not a big enough advantage to complain about). 5k/15k armor is beautiful (in most cases, sometimes it looks like a real dog, sometimes worse even than the 1k/1.5k armor), but all it actually changes is your looks, you still have to get the same runes, the same insignia (if Elonian crafted), you still have to get it infused to use in parts of Tyria, and so forth.

Lightbringer's Gaze is not a small advantage, and it is proving vital to get into groups, according to the previous going (I have not progressed the storyline much in NF myself, preferring to focus my Elonian attention on exploration for the time being, so I haven't encountered the Torment Realms yet). It desperately needs a significant nerf if GW is to survive as GW and not to degenerate into a 'you MUST have this!' fest like, say, Final Fantasy XI has succumbed to being ...

Is there really a good reason for Anet to take this dual stance towards farming? On the one hand they discourage it (the drop nerf) and on the other hand they're telling us (by making LG the way it is) that Nightfall is basically, yes, about mindless farming, that's how the game is designed deal with it. Do MMOG's need to focus on farming to survive, is the GW model fundamentally flawed?

Or was NF simply, as I suspect, rushed to release to take advantage of the Halloween weekend event for promoting the game? Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely answer, given the amount of bugs we've experienced over the past week and a half, and the missing content (legitimate Sunspear rank 9 and the elite mission) ...

Let me get this straight. You're ranting about Lightbringer's Gaze, and claiming it needs a nerf, when you haven't even used it yet? Time for me to post an IMPORTANT fact.

Savio and I, while we are pretty good PvEers, beat Nightfall with only heroes. No other players were used in any mission we went on (that means we only had 2 copies of lightbringers gaze. Two! Not eight.) The Margonites are PUSHOVERS. They fail at life. It is possible to take on two groups of them at the same time and still win. If somebody isn't letting you into some group because your lightbringer rank "isn't high enough" then ignore them and make your own group. It's doable!

Err, the ammount of bugs that are in nightfall is minimal compaired with the other two campaigns. Plus, I like the fact that they are holding off on the elite missions, but that might just be me.

Lightbringers gaze isnt that good, it deals holy damage... but torment mobs have armor vs that. And it takes a ton of points for it to be especially effective.

You dont need it to farm points or win missions.

Need? No. But put 4 or 5 people together at rank 4 or 5 and you own everything. It's almost too easy.

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oh well, my afk whispers informant lover left me after 10.5k afk'd points.. a few hours of play away from getting my ranger to a still afk-able LB farming spot.. where I can get over the 200 lb/s per hour I was getting already.. oh well @_@.

finally got r7, anyone got r8 yet? it that the max? if not do u still get blessing after r8?

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Also, Margonites don't have armor against holy. Holy damage doesn't INHERENTLY ignore armor. Many of the skills that do holy damage do ignore armor and don't specify it, but there are others that do not, like Lightbringer's Gaze. Examples: Judges Insight makes you deal holy damage, as does Heart of Holy Flame. Those do not make your attacks ignore armor. Since it is an untyped form of damage, it should do damage in this order from least to greatest, since it only cares about base AL: Warriors;Paragons;Rangers and Dervishes;Rest of casters.

Don't need Lightbringers Gaze (or people for that matter) for any of the game. Did it all with Heroes/Henchmen, didn't have to re-do a mission, on a Ranger. Sort of want it to help get Masters though, much quicker.

*shrugs*
The Problem is not Lightbringer. The problem is the playerbase. Lightbringer is just another exclamation mark to the "GuildWars Nightfall - the Single Player experience" theme. You know, it's just another reason to not go PUG.
Besides how can a skill in PVE be overpowered?

FFS people...Lighbringers Gaze is not needed to beat the game it just makes the end stuff easier, WE HAVE SETTLED THAT...can we get back to the topic of the thread and answer whether or not you can continue to get the hunts even after you to 15,000 LB points? Or did they cap it like they did once you hit 7,500 SS points? Also if you can continue to get the hunts has anyone reached the 25,000 mark? And if so does it FINALLY stop? Or do we got to get to 50,000? And do the hunts stop after 25,000 LB points or will we be able to max this title out without using, what in my eyes is an exploit, (which is what A-Net nerfed for the LB title) to max this title out? (the exploit i am reffering to is letting the monks rez as you go and fight another group that will earn you SS points for those of you who were wondering).

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer the few questions that i asked here.

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