Lightbringer Procession - Note: AFK Farming/Exploit Has been Removed
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Originally Posted by aohige
For those people that asked me about how to split up the two groups, I took a video recording of my current monk run. Will put them up in the morning on youtube 
Once you get used to it, my method is actually quite easy.
(which puts the two groups very far apart, barely in the radar range)
If you're VERY good, you can do what Senator Tom suggested and have two groups both at the three heroes, and a THIRD group with just henchies.
It takes a lot of patience, skill, and luck, and does have dangers of overflowing on the henchie side, so I wouldn't recommend it as a "safe" farming though. However, it does theoretically give you the highest amount of points, probably in the 1200/h range. I find that if you lead the lone Scythe of Chaos FAR from the places you will place the Heroes at, it works nicely. Just set up the Monk Hero with all the enchantments and position the Monk and Ranger at the Res Shrine and the Henchies and second Ranger at the other place. Then pull each Scythe to the rangers one at a time.
Once you get used to it, my method is actually quite easy.
(which puts the two groups very far apart, barely in the radar range)
If you're VERY good, you can do what Senator Tom suggested and have two groups both at the three heroes, and a THIRD group with just henchies.
It takes a lot of patience, skill, and luck, and does have dangers of overflowing on the henchie side, so I wouldn't recommend it as a "safe" farming though. However, it does theoretically give you the highest amount of points, probably in the 1200/h range. I find that if you lead the lone Scythe of Chaos FAR from the places you will place the Heroes at, it works nicely. Just set up the Monk Hero with all the enchantments and position the Monk and Ranger at the Res Shrine and the Henchies and second Ranger at the other place. Then pull each Scythe to the rangers one at a time.
mrlopes
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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire
A quick question: Do you guys keep Guild Wars minimized or do you leave it open in the window? I keep getting crashes or out of memory errors if I minimize it or try to maximize after 5 hours or so. Also, if I look at the memory usage by GW when it's minimized, I can see that it constantly keeps going up and up. People in town have gotten these errors too.
My question for the people AFKing all night: Do you leave it running in fullscreen? I have the same problem, if minimized = memory error crash after a while, if maximimized no problems.
So i keep it maximized and turn off the monitor.
My question for the people AFKing all night: Do you leave it running in fullscreen? I have the same problem, if minimized = memory error crash after a while, if maximimized no problems.
So i keep it maximized and turn off the monitor.
mrcake
My heroes wont stay where the flag is set, i set them to guard but every now and again talkhora decide she is going to go towards the ranger and sometimes the scythes decide to go for her.
Other times the ranger decides to move from the spot the flag was placed at and the scythes go for the monk
Other times the ranger decides to move from the spot the flag was placed at and the scythes go for the monk
Cyan The Archer
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Originally Posted by mrcake
My heroes wont stay where the flag is set, i set them to guard but every now and again talkhora decide she is going to go towards the ranger and sometimes the scythes decide to go for her.
Other times the ranger decides to move from the spot the flag was placed at and the scythes go for the monk Could be because the ranger is loosing too much health and therefore leaving his or her position to get some regen. Remember to put Tahlkora on "Avoid Combat" and NO touch skills.
I noticed that there is a bug with the Reapers, when they are around max size. Sometimes one of the duplicates will go up the wall and go straight for the backline. Just need to flag them right.
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Have the same problem with memory issues. 512mb ram here.. :/
Other times the ranger decides to move from the spot the flag was placed at and the scythes go for the monk Could be because the ranger is loosing too much health and therefore leaving his or her position to get some regen. Remember to put Tahlkora on "Avoid Combat" and NO touch skills.
I noticed that there is a bug with the Reapers, when they are around max size. Sometimes one of the duplicates will go up the wall and go straight for the backline. Just need to flag them right.
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Have the same problem with memory issues. 512mb ram here.. :/
mrcake
Got it working now, only one ranger and one group of scythes but it will do for now.
Senator Tom
woot
Cyan The Archer
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Originally Posted by Senator Tom
woot Grats^^ Will probably get mine soon aswell.. Just my stupid internet is not working for some stupid reason i dont know... Cant even see how much i got from afk'ing last night!
(Gotta be fast before they nerf it
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mrcake
Still cant manage to get 2 groups of scythes going.. if anybody wants to give me a lesson or let me join them for some afk, im me in game
ign: Lazy Axe
ign: Lazy Axe
Cyan The Archer
mrcake, if you're having a hard time doing the split, then do what aohige posted. Alot easier(I'm doing that). Spears are easiest to do it with, but i believe Scythes give a bit more an hour.
Here is his post quoted:
don't post huge quotes like that please. -the moderators
Here is his post quoted
don't post huge quotes like that please. -the moderators
dj deviate
are both the touchers kitted out with runes and top items?
if so thats quite a pricey setup
if so thats quite a pricey setup
hui33
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Originally Posted by dj deviate
are both the touchers kitted out with runes and top items?
if so thats quite a pricey setup Dun have to... mine used the stuffs i picked... it worked well
The tuffest part is the positioning...
if so thats quite a pricey setup Dun have to... mine used the stuffs i picked... it worked well
The tuffest part is the positioning...
jinkas
There are no touchers. They are R/N because they degen the Spears to death (Suffering + Apply Poison), protect themselves (Enfeebling Blood), and do a small amount of damage (Grenth's Balance, which neither of my R/N heroes uses often because their health doesn't get low enough for the AI to consider it). Don't get specific runes just for this (neither one of my ranger heroes has any runes on). You don't need a good weapon, either--you have no points in Scythe Mastery (they aren't even X/D or D/X) because they just use a scythe to spread poison to all the Spears at once (weapon damage is irrelevant).
Rah Balder
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Originally Posted by dj deviate
are both the touchers kitted out with runes and top items?
if so thats quite a pricey setup Nah no need for Runes and stuff. Just a shity Scythe to spread the poison.
if so thats quite a pricey setup Nah no need for Runes and stuff. Just a shity Scythe to spread the poison.
dj deviate
cheers guys have to try that as the other way i always end up with my guys dead through over spawning
Batou of Nine
I have been doing the classic all hency/hero party farming 1 Spear copier. Untill i saw this post had continued! EEGADS! you people are too creative lol!
Well so far i got it to work for one Spear mob. I now have to try 2. I can also do 1 scythe mob, so perhaps ill try that also.
Quick question however, I understand why Grenths Balance is in the R/N bar, but at the same time it isn't seeing much use, if at all. I sat and watched Jin farm for about 15 minutes and not ONCE did she use Grenths Balance. Is this skill simply there for emergencies? Like if the bonder somehow runs too low on energy and cant use a direct heal right away, Jin can buy some time if she gets too low on HP by using Grenths?
Cause during these normal farming conditions i have yet to ever see this elite used... Just Curious!
cheers!
Well so far i got it to work for one Spear mob. I now have to try 2. I can also do 1 scythe mob, so perhaps ill try that also.
Quick question however, I understand why Grenths Balance is in the R/N bar, but at the same time it isn't seeing much use, if at all. I sat and watched Jin farm for about 15 minutes and not ONCE did she use Grenths Balance. Is this skill simply there for emergencies? Like if the bonder somehow runs too low on energy and cant use a direct heal right away, Jin can buy some time if she gets too low on HP by using Grenths?
Cause during these normal farming conditions i have yet to ever see this elite used... Just Curious!
cheers!
Jade_Onyx
It's mostly there for shits and giggles. I've watched entire movies and shes never used it. Helps with the initial killing though (to kill everything but the ones you want).
And ya, runes don't matter, I just kept mine at whatever she was set up for and she uses the preorder scythe.
And ya, runes don't matter, I just kept mine at whatever she was set up for and she uses the preorder scythe.
aohige
Good lord, it took an HOUR to process the uploaded file on youtube.
Their encoders must be screaming for help. o_O
anyways, here it is.
Setting up the farm
I'm using Medhi's Vow on both Rangers, btw, since they get ene back quickly.
But it's not necessary. The damage of Medhi being max doesn't matter at all,
since there aren't any points into scythe mastery anyways, and Torment creatures AR are high enough that weapon damages from weapons without meeting the req requirement is almost none.
In otherwords, any scythes will do, regardless of damage.
Their encoders must be screaming for help. o_O
anyways, here it is.
Setting up the farm
I'm using Medhi's Vow on both Rangers, btw, since they get ene back quickly.
But it's not necessary. The damage of Medhi being max doesn't matter at all,
since there aren't any points into scythe mastery anyways, and Torment creatures AR are high enough that weapon damages from weapons without meeting the req requirement is almost none.
In otherwords, any scythes will do, regardless of damage.
Arduin
Thanks for the nice info all, especially you, aohige. Currently busy farming two groups of Spears, which already netted me approx 3000 points, in 3.5 hours. Not as much as with farming the Scythes, but I keep screwing up on those To anyone who has problems with farming those Scythes too: just use those Spears, they are a lot easier to set up.
Only 'bout 40h to go ^^
Only 'bout 40h to go ^^
Lost
Not wanting to read through 999999 pages, but is the randomish nature of the heroes/henchies when combating the spears unavoidable. To illustrate what I mean:
I decided to Lightbringer farm in the Nightfallen Jahai. Right outside I set up my heroes (Koss, two monks) on a spear from the right group and the henchies on a spear from the left group. I AFK'd somewhere within range of both.
I go away for 20 minutes and come back to see the heroes battling 4 spears and the henchies battling 3. I came to their aid and brought both groups down to 1 again. I decided to reposition the flags (is there an optimal spot for flag placement? I tend to place it right in front of a spear) and let the henchies try again.
I come back 15 minutes later and this time the hero group has 3 spears but the henchies are preforming properly. I do nothing with the flags and just kill the excess spears. After this all of a sudden the heroes and henchies both go 7 hours without my interference and do well giving me lots of happy points.
But then suddenly the heroes cause a string of overspawns and dies before I get back to my computer. Fortunately I AFK'd on the side of a wall and all of the spears aggrod me but couldn't hit me. The henchies still only had 1 spear to fight.
Now back to my point. It seems overspawning is just so random. It can be 10 minutes or 10 hours before they fail. Is it luck or can I make improvements?
I decided to Lightbringer farm in the Nightfallen Jahai. Right outside I set up my heroes (Koss, two monks) on a spear from the right group and the henchies on a spear from the left group. I AFK'd somewhere within range of both.
I go away for 20 minutes and come back to see the heroes battling 4 spears and the henchies battling 3. I came to their aid and brought both groups down to 1 again. I decided to reposition the flags (is there an optimal spot for flag placement? I tend to place it right in front of a spear) and let the henchies try again.
I come back 15 minutes later and this time the hero group has 3 spears but the henchies are preforming properly. I do nothing with the flags and just kill the excess spears. After this all of a sudden the heroes and henchies both go 7 hours without my interference and do well giving me lots of happy points.
But then suddenly the heroes cause a string of overspawns and dies before I get back to my computer. Fortunately I AFK'd on the side of a wall and all of the spears aggrod me but couldn't hit me. The henchies still only had 1 spear to fight.
Now back to my point. It seems overspawning is just so random. It can be 10 minutes or 10 hours before they fail. Is it luck or can I make improvements?
Cyan The Archer
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Originally Posted by aohige
Their encoders must be screaming for help. o_O
anyways, here it is.
Setting up the farm
I'm using Medhi's Vow on both Rangers, btw, since they get ene back quickly.
But it's not necessary. The damage of Medhi being max doesn't matter at all,
since there aren't any points into scythe mastery anyways, and Torment creatures AR are high enough that weapon damages from weapons without meeting the req requirement is almost none.
In otherwords, any scythes will do, regardless of damage. Why do the Spears not run when your rangers use Whirling Defense?(If thats the skill, a bit too small to see)
Lost, what is your hero skills and Henchmen?
mrcake
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Originally Posted by Arduinna
Thanks for the nice info all, especially you, aohige. Currently busy farming two groups of Spears, which already netted me approx 3000 points, in 3.5 hours. Not as much as with farming the Scythes, but I keep screwing up on those To anyone who has problems with farming those Scythes too: just use those Spears, they are a lot easier to set up.
Only 'bout 40h to go ^^ Think i will try the spears tomorow.. getting 2 scyth groups going this late on a friday is proving a bit of a chore.
Just cant stop them chasing after my monk
Hope i have better luck with spears tomorow!!
Only 'bout 40h to go ^^ Think i will try the spears tomorow.. getting 2 scyth groups going this late on a friday is proving a bit of a chore.
Just cant stop them chasing after my monk
Hope i have better luck with spears tomorow!!
dj deviate
what rank are torment creatures in nightfallen garden as ive been doing it in NF jahai and there 28 and just keep over spawning
BlackRecluse
got the hang of it a few hours ago, got up to 10,000 points xd
mrcake
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Originally Posted by dj deviate
what rank are torment creatures in nightfallen garden as ive been doing it in NF jahai and there 28 and just keep over spawning
They be 28
dj deviate
lol im just crap at it then look like i just gonna have to keep practicing either the over spawn or i kill it before it duplicates
aohige
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Originally Posted by Lost
Use a life bond/life barrier hero to keep the tank alive, and hide the monk where it can't get hit.
With those enchants maintained, the overspawning won't be an issue.
The best way to do this is use a hero that can do good area damage, but not TOO powerful.
The R/N build provided by Juicey (which he got from another player) works nicely, and I tested out if D/R can do the same, and with some damage output adjustments, it seems to work fine.
The idea is to slowly (but not too slowly) damage massess of enemy, continuously.
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
Why do the Spears not run when your rangers use Whirling Defense?(If thats the skill, a bit too small to see)
It is, and WHY the Spears don't disperse when deflection from WD is spamming them, I do not know. 
I tried it out, and they didn't move an inch, so I kept it in the build. If I need them to get hit for my ene regen while I'm setting up the enchants, I disalble it temporary.
I tried it out, and they didn't move an inch, so I kept it in the build. If I need them to get hit for my ene regen while I'm setting up the enchants, I disalble it temporary.
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Originally Posted by mrcake
Think i will try the spears tomorow.. getting 2 scyth groups going this late on a friday is proving a bit of a chore.
Just cant stop them chasing after my monk Hope i have better luck with spears tomorow!! Scythe to Spear point gain ratio seems to be 10:9. Meaning, 1 group of R/N can get 500/h from a group of Scythes, and 450/h from a group of Spears. For sacrificing 10% gain, you are almost guarnteed a safe and easy farming. That's why I perfer the Spears.
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I seem to like Scythes much better than Spears, they're much easier to pull to the Rangers.
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3283 Points away, I'm going set it up tomorrow; too sleepy.
Kaida the Heartless
The shrine is so much more effective when you trap the baddies IN the mouth and not the hill...
Monk + Return + Bodyblock /w Warrior = Scythes Perma-trapped I don't know why, but noone has suggested Essence Bond on thier monks. Healing Light + Divine Boon > Glimmer Regardless, ignore my pointage in that pic, it's a bit old. Gonna try this ranger thing everyone is talkin about. Apparently, it works O.o
mrcake
I use essence bond like was suggested in juiceys post.
Finally managed to get 2 groups of spears on the go, more to do with manging to get them far enough away from the shrine so i could split them without worrying about the other getting aggroed by first group.
Rah Balder
Wewt finally got my Holy Afkbringer title
 Thanks to evryone who posted helpful information especially Juicey, couldnt hav pulled it off without ya Screenies  GL to all afk'ers out there.
Slainster
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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
Instructions: exit Gate of the Nightfallen Lands, look for a spawn of torments right near the shrine-- if there is one, make sure a Scythe of Chaos is in it.. if not, keep respawning until you see one there.
Could I ask from what outpost you are exiting to get this area? Trying to figure out if i have it yet ^^
mrcake
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Originally Posted by Slainster
Could I ask from what outpost you are exiting to get this area? Trying to figure out if i have it yet ^^
The outpost is 'Gate of the Nightfallen lands' the area it exits on to is 'Nightfallen Jahai'
Slainster
thanks.. so i guess im off to find this outpost
mrcake
Its over to the left when you come out of gate of torment if you keep your mini map on you should see the portal eventually.
mwpeck
Thanks, everyone who posted these tips. I tried with the scythes and found it too hard to get them setup just right, but the spears are MUCH easier.
I have idled for about 16 hours using the spears, I got about 12K points(there was some time where I wasnt farming them). And thats just in a day. The spears are sooo easy, you dont even have to body block. I just set my rangers an equal distance from my monk, and I set the monk out of aggro range, but in casting range and they have never gone for the monk, in about 13-14hours of overall farming. Today - r5(was r2 yesterday) Tomorrow - r7(hopefully higher)
BlackRecluse
damn im really having trouble setting up two groups, so if anybody ever needs a partner to farm with PM me at Fear Stryker
Cyan The Archer
To those who are having trouble setting it up, look on page 15 and use the tactic aohige posted. ALOT easier.
SumXone
why do you guys not use necro/monks or necro/x as farmers?
this way, you can squeeze more enchantments into your build, or whatever fits your need best. also, take disease instead of poison, it automatically spreads to all torments. this way, you can give your necro an offhand item and an +5 axe instead of that scythe. it works very well -5 degen from disease is just right for having constantly 7 torments on you. for the little exra punch read on: take vocal minority, to lower the spears damage even more, and prevent them from selfhealing with chants. a necro has no problems at all dealing with the damage, the bonds suck it all up. for even more safety (lags etc, i dunno) i gave my monk symbiosis. this way the farmer has about 1000 health. (farming spears only, doing this while farming scythes is not very productive^^) for the little extra kills: take holy wrath and retribution and cast it on the farmers. that way, the scythes or spears take more damage while attacking (equals to about 2-4 pips of degen) but as soon as they stop attacking to call to torment, this extra damage stops, giving them enough time to complete the duplication. it works quite well, and speeds up the process quite a bit. i would recommend this to anyone, who rather takes on one group instead of 2. this way, you get far more than 600 points/h with only one group.
Evilsod
I was wondering earlier. Since Apply Poison + Well of Suffering is slightly too potent. Why not use Rotting Flesh on its own instead? You'd keep them all at a -6 degen, not too strong, not too weak.
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