How To: ''legendary defender of ascalon''

holyjew888

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wisconsin

Guardians Alliance [ALLY] now recruiting

D/A

i have seen the 3 mentioned here, another(4got name) and a warrior(also name forgotten)

sorry for the continued delay in updateing, ill get the pics on in 2 weeks when i get back from israel(despite the news it really is safe here so dont sidetrack into this topic)

emoxcore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

No Guild

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holyjew888
ya like 1 person i saw had the title
how is everyones pre char doing(gimme lvl +% till lvl up)
lvl 17..59%

If your talking about the Ale-Hound title, no one has it anymore since the person who did have it had a error and was sent to post,Once he reset his quests,he skipped the first quest and did the second one, and everytime he warpped or try to walk into Ascalon City, it took him right to the academy =/ and he deleted his post character and started over. But since he doesnt play anymore he gave his accounts to me.

CidBlackwood

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ascalon

Aislin Blackwood
Level 6 53%
Me/X

Its going alot faster than expected. All I have to do is shut of Local/Guild/Team/Trade/Alliance/Emote chat and I can go woooooooooooooozzzz... anyway... I'm going to do this with one character from all of the prophecies classes wewt. If you want to do anything along with me just add me to your friends list and PM me I'll be happy to abuse your futile att- err... I'll be happy to help you. =D

Iscana

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

I'm wondering if it's possible to have both Legendary survivor and Legendary defender on a char? Since lots of people here talk about dead leveling Striders and Charr. And how can I do it, using a pet and dead level with him some striders?

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flesh of Satan
if you use strategy it's possible to do it quicker than most think, there is already another lv 20 poped up, so that makes 4 total that i've seen
Hey... It's been a while Still play Pre alot?

I've seen 5 myself (all Warrior btw...), and I'm very sure there are lvl 20's in the Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese or Korean districts, and probably people that just didn't show up in Ascalon to show off their title 24/7 (like most lvl 20's do).

And what "strategy" are you talking about, I'd love to hear

And the level 20 person at the Ultimate Fan Party was a friend of mine, he was the one I sold my 6 Superior Runes, Victo's Bulwark, Superior Salvage Kit and a couple of gold experience scrolls to. He thanked me that I made it possible for him to get to that party, and asked if I had any suggestions for the suggestions he could make to ANet. I said he should suggest that we got titles in pre-searing, and I guess he suggested this, with succes Don't know if he still plays pre though, I doubt it, not much to do besides afk'ing after hitting lvl 20.

amish lifeguard

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

Havent played my Pre Charr for nearly 2 weeks. I can barely play as it is. My internet connection SUCKS BALLS. i got a new computer for christmas so im goign to try and get that set up, then its easy rollin from there.

Cygnus_Zero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/Me

This title reflects free time and dedication, not skill, so I have no interest in it. Thanks for posting on behalf of those that are interested in it though Holyjew.

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Originally Posted by Cygnus_Zero
This title reflects free time and dedication, not skill, so I have no interest in it. Thanks for posting on behalf of those that are interested in it though Holyjew.
I wasn't aware that any titles in this game represented skill...

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yunas Ele
I wasn't aware that any titles in this game represented skill...
Exactly. Even the Champion (high ranked battles won) is time and dedication, if I'd be playing GvG for 19 months, insead of PvE'ing all the time, I'd have a Champion title. It's more a matter of choice then a matter of skill.

SoadLink

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Thanks for the guide...working on mine now. Lvl 7.5 at the moment and I started today. Trying it on an ele, so we'll see how that goes.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscana
I'm wondering if it's possible to have both Legendary survivor and Legendary defender on a char? Since lots of people here talk about dead leveling Striders and Charr. And how can I do it, using a pet and dead level with him some striders?
OMFG READ THE POSTS!!

You can't get both titles!!! once an enemy kills your pet and u res it and it is killed again the enemy won't get anymore exp. Same with if u did it with a team, there is no Hard res so that wouldn't work.

CidBlackwood

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ascalon

Just pick one of them, you can only display one at a time anyway...

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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even if you could get ldoa + survivor at the same time via pet leveling (which again, you CAN'T) I don't think anyone would get them... Very few people even have the dedication to leave the game AFK long enough to get this title... let alone BE INFRONT OF THE COMPUTER FOR THE ENTIRE 1000+ HOURS CLICKING RES PET!!! Although I guess you could risk botting it if you really wanted to ah well not like its possible...

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by CidBlackwood
Just pick one of them, you can only display one at a time anyway...
But both count towards KoaBD track, making it that much easier to get PKM.

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

I started my character "Defiant Mouse" before I read this post. I am at lvl 6 when I decided to read through this guide. Took about 5 hours just killing everything in the map between Ascalon and Ashford Abbey. I have only done the first quests that I needed to get my first 2 warrior skills and the first 2 monk skills. I have currently Survivor title showing but the Defender is not showing yet. We shall see how it goes im gonna kill in the main maps til I stop getting exp then move to the Char. After that it will be time to get the secondary professions first wuests out of the way and hopefuly I will still be living.

Mega Mouse

amish lifeguard

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

If you DID get both Sl and LDoA, you dont have to show off LDoA because your're lvl 20 haha, that;s a title in its self.

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscana
I'm wondering if it's possible to have both Legendary survivor and Legendary defender on a char? Since lots of people here talk about dead leveling Striders and Charr. And how can I do it, using a pet and dead level with him some striders?
No, it's not possible, it has been stated many times throughout this thread. Although, at one time there was a way to get it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yunas Ele
I wasn't aware that any titles in this game represented skill...
lol



Quote:
Originally Posted by Flesh of Satan
according to A-net there's only 3 characters with lv 20 in Pre, this was said by them at the Ultimate Fan party to one of the other lv 20's ......he aslo claims to have convinced them to un-nerf the possibility of doing it after I and Him did it, i know there was alot of others that came close but for sure from Anet they say only 3.....and i'm 1, he's the other and of course the 1st Antipowers that wear the title--this includes int. districts
Well there was you, Anti,Cloud, and Merciless. In Euro there is King, his wife, and wolf, I'm sure there are others. There's more than 3, and even if they are basing it on American districts there are more than 3, and soon Alpha and Starchild will be joining the list

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Exactly. Even the Champion (high ranked battles won) is time and dedication, if I'd be playing GvG for 19 months, insead of PvE'ing all the time, I'd have a Champion title. It's more a matter of choice then a matter of skill.
you still need skill to get champion title...

mighty_xena

mighty_xena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Las Vegas, Nevada

Heroes Elite Righteous Crusade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by God Apprentice
No, it's not possible, it has been stated many times throughout this thread. Although, at one time there was a way to get it.


lol





Well there was you, Anti,Cloud, and Merciless. In Euro there is King, his wife, and wolf, I'm sure there are others. There's more than 3, and even if they are basing it on American districts there are more than 3, and soon Alpha and Starchild will be joining the list
..just an FYI

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mighty_xena
..just an FYI
Level 20 bear ftw!

Grats on getting the title!

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Muhkuh
you still need skill to get champion title...
No you don't. A day of pressing shadow strike->vamp gaze and chucking up an aegis in between can get you a champion title. Going off-topic here though so I won't say anymore...

gojensen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

GrNO

W/Me

Damnations... I've been trying for 2 days now to death level a moa, and every time it hits lvl 16 I get the dreaded err 59. And this even with me in front of the computer doing laps around the ressurection shrine. Boo So, this means I gotta kill the bird at level 15... which at level 19 would give me 32 xp.

Which means I need to kill around 400 of em just for level 40? And from level 16 to level 20 would require about 1000 kills? AAAND it takes about 10 hours to level a moa to level 15? Which would mean that if I played 24/7 it would take about 400 days to complete?! Seems a lot more than the suggested 200-400 hours in the original post.

Is anyone able to death level a moa above level 15 these days? *sigh* I had my sight set on this... but I'm not sure I am willing to sacrifice 400 _days_.

(Okay, remembered that one was supposed to do all quests at lvl 19 for experience, and not death levelling... it's still about 200+ days to go from level 16 thru to 19??)

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gojensen
Damnations... I've been trying for 2 days now to death level a moa, and every time it hits lvl 16 I get the dreaded err 59. And this even with me in front of the computer doing laps around the ressurection shrine. Boo So, this means I gotta kill the bird at level 15... which at level 19 would give me 32 xp.

Which means I need to kill around 400 of em just for level 40? And from level 16 to level 20 would require about 1000 kills? AAAND it takes about 10 hours to level a moa to level 15? Which would mean that if I played 24/7 it would take about 400 days to complete?! Seems a lot more than the suggested 200-400 hours in the original post.

Is anyone able to death level a moa above level 15 these days? *sigh* I had my sight set on this... but I'm not sure I am willing to sacrifice 400 _days_.
I've only ever leveled off moss spiders (well char too but thats nerfed) and it takes them about 8 hours to get to level 18. I don't go beyond that because I have the same problem as you, err59... I can usually leave it afk for the entire time too, although it helps to check up on it once or twice if possible. Got err59 maybe 2/10 times if i leave it without touching game for entire 8 hours and 1/10 times if i check up on game and move around a bit every now and then).

I don't know where you got the 10 hours to lvl 15 part from? You are running around the shrine entire time? Sounds boring. Not to mention your kiting from the moa, reducing its damage output, which would probably account for the longer time. Moss spiders also start 1 level higher than moas so they are better, IMO. They are outside barradin estate if you didn't know. But ya, I think this will take a lot longer than the 200-400 hours now that char dleveling has been nerfed... but its afk time mostly so not too big of a deal...

So ya... use moas, don't run around constantly, just check up on the game every now and then to make sure no err59. Hope that helps...

mighty_xena

mighty_xena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Las Vegas, Nevada

Heroes Elite Righteous Crusade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gojensen
Damnations... I've been trying for 2 days now to death level a moa, and every time it hits lvl 16 I get the dreaded err 59. And this even with me in front of the computer doing laps around the ressurection shrine. Boo So, this means I gotta kill the bird at level 15... which at level 19 would give me 32 xp.

Which means I need to kill around 400 of em just for level 40? And from level 16 to level 20 would require about 1000 kills? AAAND it takes about 10 hours to level a moa to level 15? Which would mean that if I played 24/7 it would take about 400 days to complete?! Seems a lot more than the suggested 200-400 hours in the original post.

Is anyone able to death level a moa above level 15 these days? *sigh* I had my sight set on this... but I'm not sure I am willing to sacrifice 400 _days_.

(Okay, remembered that one was supposed to do all quests at lvl 19 for experience, and not death levelling... it's still about 200+ days to go from level 16 thru to 19??)
Sounds to me you're death leveling either 1 or 2 Moas at the shrine that's why its taking them a long time to level up. Try Barradin Estate, the MOST spawn you'll get is 4 striders & 2 moss spiders OR 4 moss spiders. Either one is ok. All you have to do is keep zoning back and forth to the outpost(town) till you find that spawn. Also check up on the hill if there are striders there.

In regards to ER59, that can't be avoided. It happens to me to but the most I'm online is 10 hours. I normally kill it when its level is same as mine so I get 100xp everytime. Those days are over for me since I just hit level 20 yesterday.

gojensen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

GrNO

W/Me

Nah, I wasn't running around the entire time... just once every hour or so... it seems pretty darned consistent that it disconnects every 10 hour unless I zone or something. Last disconnect I was running around, cast Soul Barbs (just for fun) ... went to the toilet and wham, Err 59 (for some reason I get Err 40 for a few minutes after that... don't know what that is about...)

(This also means that my 1800 deaths have been a total waste :lol

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gojensen
(Okay, remembered that one was supposed to do all quests at lvl 19 for experience, and not death levelling... it's still about 200+ days to go from level 16 thru to 19??)
Why does everyone believe this? All the quests didn't even get you from level 16 to 17, let alone from 18 to 19. You WILL need to death level on level 19, there's no way around it. The quest still should be done on level 19 though, don't get me wrong, just pointing this out.

emoxcore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

No Guild

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Why does everyone believe this? All the quests didn't even get you from level 16 to 17, let alone from 18 to 19. You WILL need to death level on level 19, there's no way around it. The quest still should be done on level 19 though, don't get me wrong, just pointing this out.
Sucks for me since the first thing I did was all my quest..When I made my nerco I wasnt planning on staying in pre-searing untill I met a few friends and saw other highlvled people, so i just kept my necro there, so from lvl 17-20 im deathlvling >.> no more quests for me

mighty_xena

mighty_xena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Las Vegas, Nevada

Heroes Elite Righteous Crusade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by emoxcore
Sucks for me since the first thing I did was all my quest..When I made my nerco I wasnt planning on staying in pre-searing untill I met a few friends and saw other highlvled people, so i just kept my necro there, so from lvl 17-20 im deathlvling >.> no more quests for me
If you'll ask me, all quests should be done precisely starting at 19.25. You'd be short if you started all quests at exactly level 19. I started all my quests when I reached level 16 (big mistake).

Flesh of Satan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

none

from lv 19 to lv 20 was the longest wait ever def save as many quests you can till 19, and i'd reccomend buying vamp weapons/offhands they are out there

BlackIce

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Blood of the Fold

Mo/R

I just created an account because im curious to the fact that people are posting that death lvling by charr is nerfed (and im assuming they mean not possible). and they are death lvling striders and moas....Knowing that would take a HUGE amount of my valuable time, and many others, I can say that death lvling by charr is still possible after the latest patch, i did last night, just 4 of them though (much better than moas and spiders lol). Although i will not post my exact method, respecting the possibility that others have found a way and want to keep it secret, if u notice charr behavior, especially certain groups u just might find it. Good luck to u all =).

Flesh of Satan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

none

death lv'ing the charr IS possible still.....but it's not as easy as some other areas you can maximize your time spent afk lv'ing up other green named characters faster then doing the charr route not to mention being afk the entire time also

every single shrine in Pre you can death lv at with a good spawn that is...



oh and BTW------ Hello Max, Leo, Merci, and friends....i still remember when I made lv 20 over a year ago it was just about doing something no one else could, now with the addition of the title everyone wants it to be rare, I can't even count how many haters i've encountered after I came back to GW from a 8 month exit, so everyone who does actually get the title be prepared to get dissrespect from everyone else

bouvrie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flesh of Satan
every single shrine in Pre you can death lv at with a good spawn that is...
You mean high level charr spawn at all those shrines that have healing monks guarding them? There's no way to deathlevel at Ranik for example, since the monk works wonders. Of course, unless there's an AI bug there, preventing the monk from healing ya when you try?

Holy Warblade

Holy Warblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

40 days in, got to level 17 and currently 15% towards level 18.
Wintersday celebration is certainly taking a lot of my time away from Pre at the moment.

BUT, I still enjoy death leveling through charrs. I can't possibly imagine having to do it through moas and spiders. Pulling 14 charrs so far to the shrine is pretty standard with the newest update.

4-9% a day is highly achievable through a single 7hr round of death leveling.

To all those who keep dedicated to getting the title, kudos. It takes a lot of patience and dedication to get thru this journey.

To all those who have already achieved it recently, congratz!
See you there soon!

amish lifeguard

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

god, ive fallen so far behind, i could be lvl 18.5+ easy arghh, my computer still cant run GW very well, let alone stay on for 7 hours while Dlvling. Good luck all.

also, about the champion title. that title does take skill. get into a top 100 guild then PM me. you must be very very expierenced at gvg to get champ points.

gojensen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

GrNO

W/Me

So another question... How do you get a lvl 20 pet in pre? You can't deathlevel with the pet around can you? (At least not off Moa/Mossies as the pet will kill'em )

mighty_xena

mighty_xena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Las Vegas, Nevada

Heroes Elite Righteous Crusade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gojensen
So another question... How do you get a lvl 20 pet in pre? You can't deathlevel with the pet around can you? (At least not off Moa/Mossies as the pet will kill'em )
Well, in regards to your question, if you're looking for a Level 20 pet the quickest way to own one without putting any effort death leveling it....would be a strider. Barradin Estate just outside the rezone area have strider spawn up to 4 of them. If you decide to death level one and charm it at level 20, make sure there are NO agro moss spiders around when you do it. Otherwise the spider(s) will get the xp. Of course your minimum level has to be 14 and up.

About your other question, you can't deathlevel a moa or spider when you have a pet in a field. Besides, it will only kill it to the extent of ALL foes including potential pets don't gain xp from pet. They only gain xp from your character. The reason why I know is I tried to death level the 4 level 10 charr bosses in the Northlands using my Level 20 Dire Bear for about 2 hours. Unfortunately, nothing happened and all 4 of them are still level 10's.

gojensen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

GrNO

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My question was more directed to how can a pet level up beyond level 16 when the highest available mob is level 10. I'm of course counting on the same experience guides for pets as for characters (i.e. no XP if monster is more than 5 levels below you...)

However, this may all be moot for me as I simply can't get the Charrs separated, and 4 level 7-8 charrs is too much for me and my lil ole Brown bear.

Cronnie

Cronnie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alliance of Xen [XoO]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gojensen
My question was more directed to how can a pet level up beyond level 16 when the highest available mob is level 10. I'm of course counting on the same experience guides for pets as for characters (i.e. no XP if monster is more than 5 levels below you...)

However, this may all be moot for me as I simply can't get the Charrs separated, and 4 level 7-8 charrs is too much for me and my lil ole Brown bear.
They dont level up on mobs, they level up on you

So you would have to get rid of the pet you have now, start charming the pet then stop, run to a nearby res shrine and let it level up.

Once it is 20, capture it.

It is probably very hard and since i havent done this myself not sure if this is the exact method but.....

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bouvrie
You mean high level charr spawn at all those shrines that have healing monks guarding them? There's no way to deathlevel at Ranik for example, since the monk works wonders. Of course, unless there's an AI bug there, preventing the monk from healing ya when you try?
Invite a level 16 Necro, let him make 10 minions, let him stand next to the monk, make him leave. I very much doubt the monk has a chance against 10 minions made with 12/13 Death Magic.

And you CAN get your pet to level 17 without death leveling. The level 10 Charr bosses level up to level 11 when they kill you 10 times on level 16. This way you should get about 1% each run (probably a bit less, as it was only a bit more then 1% at level 16), and your pet could also. But still, death leveling a pet to level 20 is probably most effective.

gojensen

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

GrNO

W/Me

Uhm... I'm not sure I would want to try that with a bear (Besides wouldn't he run away from the res shrine..?)

I'm also having a really hard time getting more than 1 mob near enough to the res shrine so that death levelling will work... if they start too far away they'll just run away once they've done their dirty deeds...