(1) Kind of a Big Deal
(2) People Know Me
(3) I Have Many Leather Bound Books
(4) My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany
(5) I Like to go to Sea World and Take My Pants Off
[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles
Tobias Funke
Gaile Gray
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Originally Posted by Tobias Funke
(1) Kind of a Big Deal
(2) People Know Me (3) I Have Many Leather Bound Books (4) My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany (5) I Like to go to Sea World and Take My Pants Off |
Seriously, though, thanks to everyone for your votes and your comments. Please keep 'em coming!
neuro_999
/Signet^Infinite
I like the change, i have 150/190 Elites capped by now, and my head will blowup if when archieve the 190 the tittle dont count for the KOABD
Thax for hear the comunity Gaile... i love u (With my gf permision)
cu in elona.
I like the change, i have 150/190 Elites capped by now, and my head will blowup if when archieve the 190 the tittle dont count for the KOABD
Thax for hear the comunity Gaile... i love u (With my gf permision)
cu in elona.
AlienFromBeyond
I voted in favor of changing it.
morbis
Skill Capture title should be an account based title and once you capture an elite skill you should be able to buy it at in towns for that campaign for 3 to 4 times the cost to purchase a skill on any character that doesnt already have it captured. A lot of people will disagree with this but having to take a newly created character through multiple campaigns and complete them just to capture one skill is crazy. Our heros know all the skills we have captured account wide, so it only makes sense if we can purchase elites that we have spent the time to capture with one character and not have to go through the process 2, 3 or even 9 times just to use the same elite on multiple PvE characters.
Swinging Fists
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
As you may know, the Skill Hunter title in Guild Wars was designed to offer new tiers with the release of each campaign, so it doesn't ever max out.
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10048851
Anyways, I am all for the idea of making the title campaign-specific. We should be able to max it. As for cheapening the KoaBD title, that happened as soon as Nightfall came out anyways. Each chapter brings new titles and thus it's easier to max 5. If KoaBD was the goal, then your new goal is People Know Me. After that, I'm Very Important, or whatever else ANet comes up with. FYI, I say "I'm Very Important" because that's the next line in the KoaBD and PKM sequence that these titles are taken from.
One question / issue that needs to be handled is how core skills are handled.
Also, more festival games. We need to max our AFK titles too, ya know...
Thargor
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Originally Posted by Emik
I'd like all skillhunters and other repliers to post THEIR current eliteskill number and THEN vote instead of going with the 'majority' coz you don't have a mind of your own.
They'd best change the KoaBD title into CUT (Completely Useless Title) since everyone has it. |
It has been pointed out in this thread by many people (including myself) just how simple it is to get KoaBD and how this change will have no effect to the ease of gaining it.
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It really saddens me how many people vote yes 'becoz it was the most popluar answer' Get an own opinion ffs. |
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| Skill Hunter shows devotion towards the gametitle and seperating them gets rid of that |
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Opal Bridewood
I like the idea, and especially the "International Protector and Cartographer titles". Getting all three Cartographer titles is a nice achievement one should be able to show
Guinevere Ac
campaign specific titles + core title. wich means nchapters+1 maxed titles 
+ core title. wich means nchapters+1 maxed titles
Bubba
I am in favor of the change with 110 elite skills capped and counting (I recently started my quest for gaining them all), but what I also would like to see changed is the title screen. Give it a bit of a usability boost by dividing the titles over some extra tabs like 'PVE titles', 'PVP titles' and 'campaign-only titles'. It's not a real problem, but would make it a bit easier on the eyes.
TheBaron82
/signed
With more and more titles coming out can we get some sort of filter option for titles? For example Check to display all account based titles only, all character titles only, all titles.
With more and more titles coming out can we get some sort of filter option for titles? For example Check to display all account based titles only, all character titles only, all titles.
Lady Llewyn
I am strongly in favor of this change. This is one of my favorite titles. It's the one I display on my monk all the time. I am currently up to level 4 of it and working toward level 5 as I go through Nightfall.
Currently, even those of us who have gotten the "max" available on this title get no credit toward Kind of a Big Deal--which it is! :grin:
Lady Sinaea
Co-host of GuildCast
http://www.guildcast.com
Currently, even those of us who have gotten the "max" available on this title get no credit toward Kind of a Big Deal--which it is! :grin:
Lady Sinaea
Co-host of GuildCast
http://www.guildcast.com
The Silver Star
Well it gives people who have... no... life more ways to get the title to get there "People Know Me" title, however why do people know them? because.. there always online.
Im in favor of this, more people to just look at and think.... "Im not the biggest geek out there"
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Im in favor of this, more people to just look at and think.... "Im not the biggest geek out there"
/signed
Div
I'd rather not have everyone run around with KoaBD's. It just ends up lowering the variety of titles we see displayed by characters. Maybe make skill hunter contribute towards KoaBD when one acquires say, 240 elite skills, but can still go higher (like how sunspear points work i believe). That way, people can "max" the title but it won't result in everyone having KoaBD and someone who is running around with a level 7 chest title is laughed at for not having KoaBD (when imo a level 7 chest or wisdom title is MUCH harder than trying to get KoaBD or maybe even People know me if each campaign can result in 3 relatively easy titles- mission, cartographer, skills)
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Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"
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Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"
Sophitia Leafblade
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We're considering making that change, and we'd love to hear feedback from players, particularly those who are working hard to achieve the Skill Hunter or Kind of a Big Deal titles. Here's how a change might work:
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Slainster
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Oh yea, like what Jamki said.
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Anyhow, bring it on is what i say!
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"
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Viruzzz
well. my vote would be yes: add campaign specific skill-hunter titles, but i don't want to see the "international" stuff, that is a bad idea i think. its kind of a mini-KoaBD title. where you have to max 3 (or 4 with the next chapter) titles in order to get another one. and on top of that this would count towards the KoaBD title as well.
a lot of the people who have KoaBD right now have it with master cartographer titles, protector titles, and skillhunter/treasure hunter/wisdom. I think it would be a bit stupid (and pointless) to add a second koabd-like title
so in conclusion, my vote goes for splitting up the skillhunter title, but against the international titles
a lot of the people who have KoaBD right now have it with master cartographer titles, protector titles, and skillhunter/treasure hunter/wisdom. I think it would be a bit stupid (and pointless) to add a second koabd-like title
so in conclusion, my vote goes for splitting up the skillhunter title, but against the international titles
TheYellowKid
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Actually, no. All Anet employees, be it artists, programmers or cleaners, all work on the same problem at the same time. In fact, their building is just a long corridor with a PC at the end, and they all queue up in front of it and work on 'The Problem', moving to the back when they've had their go. They blink with one eye at a time, because seeing with two is cheating. Gaile has been hogging the PC so much with this title fiasco, chapter 4 is now cancelled.
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but anyway, I voted yes because at the end of the day whats the point of a title you can never max? Seems like a better idea to split it into titles that can be maxed and have those go towards a title that can never be maxed
but if this does go ahead can we get some change to the way titles are display? I dont even really go for titles but have about *100* unfinished titles and the LB title im going for at the mo is right at the bottom and theres no way to organise it or hide titles from another campaign to make it a bit easier to keep an eye on the title im after, just an idea (also make salvage and precious inscriptions stack!
RoadKill97
/Signed, because every title, except Kind of a Big Deal and those "international" titles, should be maxable.
Sure, this will make easier to gain the first level of KoaBD, but so what? If you want to feel more leet than an average hardcore PvE-player, then work for the third level of KoaBD, or maybe some other title, like Savior of the Kurzick/Luxons.
And saying everyone and their dog has KoaBD is BS. Come on. How many players have you seen with the KoaBD? I've seen thousands and thousands players and so far only 5-6 had the title. Half of them are known hardcore players and regular posters on here, Guru.
(This post was not directed to against anyone specific.)
EDIT: I've seen over 20 players with the KoaBD in the past week. However, I'm still supporting the change.
Sure, this will make easier to gain the first level of KoaBD, but so what? If you want to feel more leet than an average hardcore PvE-player, then work for the third level of KoaBD, or maybe some other title, like Savior of the Kurzick/Luxons.
And saying everyone and their dog has KoaBD is BS. Come on. How many players have you seen with the KoaBD? I've seen thousands and thousands players and so far only 5-6 had the title. Half of them are known hardcore players and regular posters on here, Guru.
(This post was not directed to against anyone specific.)
EDIT: I've seen over 20 players with the KoaBD in the past week. However, I'm still supporting the change.
mr_groovy
Oh Almost forgot to mention.
Gaile Please Introduce Tabbed Titles, Like the Quest Log. And maybe put some order back too (Not as it is now, that we have to scroll Way down for our elonian titles ).
How will the new Internatinol Titles work on Koabd? Let's say I got 3 Protector Titles ( Which I do ). That gives me International Protector. Now I got 3 Titles Maxed out + The international Maxed out. Will this International also count towards Koabd, or is it a Seperate Title?
Ps. Still would love to see any Visual Effect for having any of the tiers in KOABD.
Gaile Please Introduce Tabbed Titles, Like the Quest Log. And maybe put some order back too
).How will the new Internatinol Titles work on Koabd? Let's say I got 3 Protector Titles ( Which I do
Ps. Still would love to see any Visual Effect for having any of the tiers in KOABD.
jjiinx13
I vote in favor of changing, but I would also like to see the Skill Hunter as account based. Prior to Factions release I had capped all Elites available in the game. But silly me, I didn't have the skill points to do them all on one character. so they were done on multiple characters. Does that make it less of an achievement.
Wyldchild777
Greetings,
I voted for splitting the titles into campaign specific tracks. However, there is some things that I would like to address about it:
1. As others have said, the core skills - what will they count for? Either make them a separate track (Core, Tyrian, Canthan, Elonian), have them add to all the continents (thereby giving a head start on new chapters), or ignore them completely. I'm in favor of the first option (a separate track).
2. Since this a skill hunter title track, what about the non-elites? Aren't they skills as well? This has bothered me since the titles were first introduced. Add the non-elite skills as a requirement for this title, in combination with splitting the tracks as above, and make the track 5 ranks to max. This, I believe, will produce the time-sink and gold-sink that is wanted in these titles, as well as keeping them a little harder to achieve, as others have posted worries about.
Personally, I'm hoping for both the above to happen, but the final decision is up to ArenaNet, and I guess I'll live with what they decide, since I'm not about to stop playing over such a thing as this .
Edit: Oh yeah - and add a sort option for the title screen. It's getting too crowded with all the different tracks that are available. Maybe sort by title rank, alphabetical, or category (cartographer, protector, skill hunter, PvP are good choices).
Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777
I voted for splitting the titles into campaign specific tracks. However, there is some things that I would like to address about it:
1. As others have said, the core skills - what will they count for? Either make them a separate track (Core, Tyrian, Canthan, Elonian), have them add to all the continents (thereby giving a head start on new chapters), or ignore them completely. I'm in favor of the first option (a separate track).
2. Since this a skill hunter title track, what about the non-elites? Aren't they skills as well? This has bothered me since the titles were first introduced. Add the non-elite skills as a requirement for this title, in combination with splitting the tracks as above, and make the track 5 ranks to max. This, I believe, will produce the time-sink and gold-sink that is wanted in these titles, as well as keeping them a little harder to achieve, as others have posted worries about.
Personally, I'm hoping for both the above to happen, but the final decision is up to ArenaNet, and I guess I'll live with what they decide, since I'm not about to stop playing over such a thing as this
.Edit: Oh yeah - and add a sort option for the title screen. It's getting too crowded with all the different tracks that are available. Maybe sort by title rank, alphabetical, or category (cartographer, protector, skill hunter, PvP are good choices).
Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777
arcanemacabre
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2. Since this a skill hunter title track, what about the non-elites? Aren't they skills as well? This has bothered me since the titles were first introduced. Add the non-elite skills as a requirement for this title, in combination with splitting the tracks as above, and make the track 5 ranks to max. This, I believe, will produce the time-sink and gold-sink that is wanted in these titles, as well as keeping them a little harder to achieve, as others have posted worries about.
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reetkever
Please don't add normal skills as well. If you want the max title for 1 character for 1 Campaign then, how much gold will you spend on skills then? Also, you'll need about 5 million XP for all the Skillpoints. Not to mention if you want all 3 titles. Or even all 3 titles on 8 characters.
I like the idea of having seperate Skill Hunter titles, though. Like Explorer titles. It gives people with only 1 chapter the possibility of getting more maxed out titles, as well.
I like the idea of having seperate Skill Hunter titles, though. Like Explorer titles. It gives people with only 1 chapter the possibility of getting more maxed out titles, as well.
TheYangg
Yeaaahhhh Split it up in 3 or 4 Title Tracks PLEAAASE!!!
But remember to add "Ebon Dust Aura", otherwise it won't be possible to Max the Elonian Title!
But remember to add "Ebon Dust Aura", otherwise it won't be possible to Max the Elonian Title!
DaS_BrOt_2MaL
triple Skillhunter please
edit: The Yangg: well... u get the Lighbringer Sig at Rank 3. This Elite counts towards the Skillhunter track. I believe it to count against that Elonian Track as well
edit: The Yangg: well... u get the Lighbringer Sig at Rank 3. This Elite counts towards the Skillhunter track. I believe it to count against that Elonian Track as well
Nexus Icon
I vote for, even though i do love being officially "Elite" at the moment
I also favour any skills you've unlocked being made available to all of your other PvE characters, either automatically or through purchase at the skills trader.
One thing that is stopping me playing with any of my other characters at the moment apart from my warrior is the knowledge that I'd have to unlock the elites for them all over again.
Not very appealling at all, and just a pure grind, something I thought ANet were trying to avoid.
Maybe make it so that the unlock only becomes available when you hit the tier, but it's still needed.
Going through a campaign in intricate detail once is fun, doing it ten times just to make sure your PvE characters are as flexible as PvP characters is a chore.
Oh, and IMPLEMENT THE EBON DUST AURA BOSS ALREADY!
I also favour any skills you've unlocked being made available to all of your other PvE characters, either automatically or through purchase at the skills trader.
One thing that is stopping me playing with any of my other characters at the moment apart from my warrior is the knowledge that I'd have to unlock the elites for them all over again.
Not very appealling at all, and just a pure grind, something I thought ANet were trying to avoid.
Maybe make it so that the unlock only becomes available when you hit the tier, but it's still needed.
Going through a campaign in intricate detail once is fun, doing it ten times just to make sure your PvE characters are as flexible as PvP characters is a chore.
Oh, and IMPLEMENT THE EBON DUST AURA BOSS ALREADY!
Karlos
As someone who has all 290 Elites and no max title, I am obviously for it. However, I also like the idea of giving the max rank for those who temporarily max the title before a new chapter comes out.
If the title is decentralized however, a little more work should perhaps be put into it. i.e. Make it Elite skills plus all skills of 2 professions or something.
If the title is decentralized however, a little more work should perhaps be put into it. i.e. Make it Elite skills plus all skills of 2 professions or something.
Servant of Kali
That's a nice suggestion Gaile, i support it.
I would also like to see more money-sink titles, suck as Drunkard and Chest titles. It would be cool if now that we have titles, titles are the domain of grinders, and armor and weapon skins are more available to casual players who dont want to grind (but are spending much time in game, just dont like mindless boring bot-like grinding). Before titles, armor and weapon skins were the only thing grinders could get, so that was ok, but now the concept is a bit obsolete.
I would also like to see more money-sink titles, suck as Drunkard and Chest titles. It would be cool if now that we have titles, titles are the domain of grinders, and armor and weapon skins are more available to casual players who dont want to grind (but are spending much time in game, just dont like mindless boring bot-like grinding). Before titles, armor and weapon skins were the only thing grinders could get, so that was ok, but now the concept is a bit obsolete.
Avarre
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Yeaaahhhh Split it up in 3 or 4 Title Tracks PLEAAASE!!!
But remember to add "Ebon Dust Aura", otherwise it won't be possible to Max the Elonian Title! |
cataphract
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I'd like all skillhunters and other repliers to post THEIR current eliteskill number and THEN vote instead of going with the 'majority' coz you don't have a mind of your own.
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TheYangg
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The Elonian track currently considers Lightbringer Signet, an Elonian non-cappable skill, towards the title. It would still be possible to max unless something was changed.
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or maybe ArenaNet is just friendly and fix it with the Introduction of Ebon Dust Aura...
We'll see..
NeHoMaR
More titles? Welcome. I voted yes.
Anyway that "all chapter" skills title is a must, maxed when you get the other 3 ones maxed (then when a 4th GW comes, change that title for max when you have 4 perfect skill titles)
The idea of add a positive effect to titles is GOOD, like more B.factions for PvP titles; Add something like that to Skill tiltle: the more elite skill you have = cheaper than 1k per skill you buy (good idea)
Obvioully people with all skill already capted, will have all titles already (when implemented)
Anyway that "all chapter" skills title is a must, maxed when you get the other 3 ones maxed (then when a 4th GW comes, change that title for max when you have 4 perfect skill titles)
The idea of add a positive effect to titles is GOOD, like more B.factions for PvP titles; Add something like that to Skill tiltle: the more elite skill you have = cheaper than 1k per skill you buy (good idea)
Obvioully people with all skill already capted, will have all titles already (when implemented)
Servant of Kali
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I'd like all skillhunters and other repliers to post THEIR current eliteskill number and THEN vote instead of going with the 'majority' coz you don't have a mind of your own.
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And im sorry, it doesnt matter how many skills i capped. I have the right to vote. And i vote against grind.
Avarre
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I know this very well I'm "Elite Skill Hunter" but i suppose this is a bug and will be fixed...
or maybe ArenaNet is just friendly and fix it with the Introduction of Ebon Dust Aura... We'll see.. |
290 elites, voted for seperation. KoaBD holds no real value as it is, and it makes little sense why there should be a chapter-spanning title.
Minnion
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Remove titles completely. They mean nothing at all, and are completely grind related. I realize that Anet is bound and determined, for whatever reason, to try and remove all the gold from characters by continually creating titles that are nothing but gold sinks (putting in a Drunkard title in a game aimed at 13 year olds? good idea there).
Instead of coming out with more silly titles, maybe release a finished game instead, and not do like EA does and release a poorly tested and implemented game, actually fix the stuck character issues, or fix the numerous Z axis issues that still crop up on nearly every bridge. There are so many other items that should be resolved first, but I guess adding ridiculous titles is much more important. Thanks for nothing. |
korcan
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That's a nice suggestion Gaile, i support it.
I would also like to see more money-sink titles, suck as Drunkard and Chest titles. It would be cool if now that we have titles, titles are the domain of grinders, and armor and weapon skins are more available to casual players who dont want to grind (but are spending much time in game, just dont like mindless boring bot-like grinding). Before titles, armor and weapon skins were the only thing grinders could get, so that was ok, but now the concept is a bit obsolete. |
upier
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It really saddens me how many people vote yes 'becoz it was the most popluar answer'
Get an own opinion ffs. I saw someone reply to my previous post that Core elites are not multi-cappable. So that means that they 1. need to make skills recappable which is plain right BOLLOCKS. or 2. let them count towards all three titles simultaneously which brings me back to my previous reply. We've already got enuff half hanging titles and making such changes makes it even worse in the already hard to manage titles list with several unfilled things in it. People with only Proph and Nightfall will have a never ever filled Factions title saying Canthan Skill hunter: 60/110 for instance I mean come on, what gives. I'm currently at 183 elites and i like my title. It's the only thing i'm going for whether it counts towards KoaBD or not. Skill Hunter shows devotion towards the gametitle and seperating them gets rid of that I'd like all skillhunters and other repliers to post THEIR current eliteskill number and THEN vote instead of going with the 'majority' coz you don't have a mind of your own. They'd best change the KoaBD title into CUT (Completely Useless Title) since everyone has it. |
my guess would be (and my guess is as good as yours) that if you dont own a specific chapter - the skill hunter title for that chapter will NOT appear- even if id be just the core skills. it might appear only after you cap an elite in that chapter.
and i have no reason to see why one would have to/be able to re-cap core skills that one capped already.
i am sorry - id imagine your speculation is just something that is highly illogical - so ill leave it at that - ranting from somebody that feels that having a title that might be achieved by many as attack on thier virtual penis. and what really saddens me is the fact that since ppl dont agree with you - youd consider them not thinking with their head. newsflash - that fact that some of us disagree with YOU - shows that we are able to think on our own.
i do feel that having a title that can not be maxed is a bit of a design flaw.
Karlos
Heh. This is off-topic, but not all very expensive, rare skins are nice. Have you seen Assassin FoW?