I do have KOBT and I do not think it is a cheap title. You really need to pour some effort into these titles. As for the new skill hunter titles, they are anything but cheap. In fact, they are pretty costly.
KOBT means someone knows how to play the game, and as far as the ones I met go, I could just trust them at what they did. Even if it gets easier to gain the title, KOBT will never be your average Pug. And for those now at level (1) it is time to move up to level (2) I guess. Show the world that you reached the far corners of every chapter.
[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles
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NeHoMaR
Maybe a little off-topic, but, why not add a title (account based) like "I have all Elites" or something? that just max when you unlock ALL elites available in game. And another one "I am the skill King" or something (account based too) maxed when you unlock ALL skills in game.
EDIT: I forgot you just could BUY this titles (with real money) if added, just buying "skill packs" in store, feature I completely disagree; It's like buy a FOW armor with real money, even I think get all skills is a lot harder than get 3 FOW armors (I WANT Arenanet earn money, but think in different ways please)
EDIT: I forgot you just could BUY this titles (with real money) if added, just buying "skill packs" in store, feature I completely disagree; It's like buy a FOW armor with real money, even I think get all skills is a lot harder than get 3 FOW armors (I WANT Arenanet earn money, but think in different ways please)
Sid Doog
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This cheapens "Kind of a big deal", I vote against.
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Fried Eyed The High
I can see the problem with this. As a whole few ppl actually have this title so taking it away from the ones that do is like WTF. On the other hand I like the idea. But Anet if you really wanna do this. Do it right. It wouldn't be that hard during implementation to not take the the title from other ppl. They have the skills so why take it away. Most elites are campaign specific anyway. So why take it away? Put the extra effort to code the update so you don't lose the title.
dudehere120
right now i have 225 elites capped. i have all 3 chapters, but not all the elites from any of the three. so i would lose my title all together 
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beanerman_99
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Kind of a Big Deal is already easy for people who want to get it (3 protector + 2 cartographer) so I don't see the need for 3 more relatively easy titles.
But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles. If you add the international skill hunter title, I'm ok with it, since we're not losing the current skill hunter title that way... Less people would see KoaBD as impressive, which is the whole point of titles in general IMO. Before NF, I considered KoaBD impressive because it required at least one "difficult" (read: lots of work) title in addition to two cartographers and protectors. With NF, it got a lot easier. Splitting skill hunter will give people a lot of "easy" titles to get for KoaBD (2) |
I don't want to loose all my hard work at capping skills and all the Platnium it cost me. I should NOT have to redo this or loose anything at all.
I think the simplist solution is to make the Title to be maxed with each chapter. If you got all of Tyrias Elites then it would be maxed for you and count towards KOABD. Same for each chapter you buy. Buy a new chapter and you may get a new tier to complete but it would still count as maxed if you got all from the previous chapter. Just my 2 cents.
dudehere120
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Kind of a Big Deal is already easy for people who want to get it (3 protector + 2 cartographer) so I don't see the need for 3 more relatively easy titles. But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles. |
lennymon
I voted for the change, but I think a great way to do this would leave the display as is, and give max title for each chapter with all elites capped.
Same would apply to protector and cartographer:
Cartographer <2/3 maxed, perhaps a display title here just for bling?>
Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer 100%
Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer 100%
Elonian Master Cartographer 98.7%
Protector <2/3 maxed, same deal>
perhaps a 'Captain Planet award or something'
Skill hunter <unchanged, unmaxable international skill hunter here>
Tyrian 90/90
Canthan 90/90
Elonian 79/91 (too bad about that ebon dust aura
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along these lines with the subtitles ONLY counting towards the KOABD track and the category titles only for display/bling!!!!
This is untrue of course, since while a skill pack [unlocks] these skills for your acct, the skill hunter is of course character based (and it SHOULD stay this way). While an unlock makes those skills available to pvp and heroes, your character is still blissfully ignorant.
Edit: heh, look what I dug out of the ancient post archives(ok 2 months ago)... I am not criticizing Gaile, but since this post from 2 months ago clearly states that all titles are attainable confirms that splitting it up is the right choice
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=10
Same would apply to protector and cartographer:
Cartographer <2/3 maxed, perhaps a display title here just for bling?>
Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer 100%
Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer 100%
Elonian Master Cartographer 98.7%
Protector <2/3 maxed, same deal>
perhaps a 'Captain Planet award or something'
Skill hunter <unchanged, unmaxable international skill hunter here>
Tyrian 90/90
Canthan 90/90
Elonian 79/91 (too bad about that ebon dust aura
)along these lines with the subtitles ONLY counting towards the KOABD track and the category titles only for display/bling!!!!
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EDIT: I forgot you just could BUY this titles (with real money) if added, just buying "skill packs" in store, feature I completely disagree; It's like buy a FOW armor with real money, even I think get all skills is a lot harder than get 3 FOW armors (I WANT Arenanet earn money, but think in different ways please) |
Edit: heh, look what I dug out of the ancient post archives(ok 2 months ago)... I am not criticizing Gaile, but since this post from 2 months ago clearly states that all titles are attainable confirms that splitting it up is the right choice
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=10
Konrow
I'm all for it seeing as it makes it more fun to hunt campaign specific elites and i might have a shit at kind of a big deal now.
Alleji
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Onoes1!11 mah poor epeen!
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Evilsod
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right now i have 225 elites capped. i have all 3 chapters, but not all the elites from any of the three. so i would lose my title all together
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Sue I Sidel
/signed.
Great Idea
Great Idea
NeHoMaR
I think the 16% of people that voted NO are the ones that misunderstand this poll, amazing. That people think they must capture the skills again OMG. If you already captured all elites you just will have 4 maxed titles after update, 1 per chapter and 1 "international" that will be as impressive as Elite Skill Hunter (5), exactly the same. And in the case, for example, you have all tyria elites now, excluding 1, you just need cap that one for the Tyria Skill Hunter. I don't see anyone losing anything. About that KOABD title, what's the problem?, everybody will have it, but a few will have the next one that need 10 perfect titles, not even talk about the one that need 15 titles or 20 or 25!
Developers, please add MORE titles, whatever you want, All HARD to get please. Never add again an easy to get title (like Sunspear) not even think about that please!
Developers, please add MORE titles, whatever you want, All HARD to get please. Never add again an easy to get title (like Sunspear) not even think about that please!
dwc89
A title for capping all elites in a chapter would be good- and something for having all in game as well. I have all 290 available atm - says I'll get master skill hunter when I have 380, a bit of a wait for those extra 90 skills I'd say.
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navatar1
I definatly think this would be a good idea. When titles were first started I focused a bit on the skill hunter title, and then I found out it couldnt be maxed even if you had all the currently available skills. So I kinda let my title drift by the wayside while I focused on other max attainable titles.
I don't think it would take me too long to become max canthan or tyrian skill hunter, and am dissapointed by the people voting against this because they feel it would cheapen the koabd title, with 3 campains out lots of people will be getting this one soon enough, if they really want to, this will just be a little boost for some of us.
Only thing I'm wondering about is the core elites. Would those be left off the campaign elite hunter tracks in favor of the international one, or would they be hooked onto when that profession debuted?
I don't think it would take me too long to become max canthan or tyrian skill hunter, and am dissapointed by the people voting against this because they feel it would cheapen the koabd title, with 3 campains out lots of people will be getting this one soon enough, if they really want to, this will just be a little boost for some of us.
Only thing I'm wondering about is the core elites. Would those be left off the campaign elite hunter tracks in favor of the international one, or would they be hooked onto when that profession debuted?
scrinner
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If the title cant get maxed, I dont want it
If the title cant get maxed, I dont want it
Liberations
Ok, i have a good plan for the skill hunter and KOABD title track, etc.
Here goes
The first title of international skill hunter(1a): one campaign and all core elites.
#1b- two sperate campaigns(not including core)
#2- 3 Campaigns
#3- 4 campaigns
1a should be a whole different title track all together.
KOABD-
they should have a title where its like 15 maxed+ (15 is just an example number) and not a set number. This way people will have prestige and not have to have a very specific uber leet title thats near impossible to get. With the introduction of more regular titles, more KOABD titles with the + suffix can be added.
Cartography(international)- first title at 2, then 3, then 4, then 5, etc
Somethng like this would recieve a lot less negative feedback and if you want to correct me i am 100% happy to change it
Here goes
The first title of international skill hunter(1a): one campaign and all core elites.
#1b- two sperate campaigns(not including core)
#2- 3 Campaigns
#3- 4 campaigns
1a should be a whole different title track all together.
KOABD-
they should have a title where its like 15 maxed+ (15 is just an example number) and not a set number. This way people will have prestige and not have to have a very specific uber leet title thats near impossible to get. With the introduction of more regular titles, more KOABD titles with the + suffix can be added.
Cartography(international)- first title at 2, then 3, then 4, then 5, etc
Somethng like this would recieve a lot less negative feedback and if you want to correct me i am 100% happy to change it
Sanji
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Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"
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Griff Mon
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Originally Posted by Sanji
Anyone who requires that you have KoaBD or PKM to group is probably not worth playing with.
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Stupid Shizno
i say keep it the way it is
everyone is just looking for a way to get more titles, such as koabd
everyone is just looking for a way to get more titles, such as koabd
brave bern
I have read all the comments on this post - I have KOABD - and to be honest dont even display it most of the time simply leaving lightbringer on. However, where is the fun in running a race with no end, capping elite after elite with nothing to really show for it except a title people mix up with wisdom or chests - (people have said to me when I had it displayed WOW how many chests u opend!). We are all been sold on the premise that each "chapter is a stand alone...." fine then it makes sense to have stand alone max titles. As for the strange claim that this will somehow damage the credibility of KOABD - didn't hear any hard core PvP players complain when they had double fame weekends!
The fact remains - to cap every skill in a chapter is a remarkable achievment that will not be the norm, - to hug every wall in a chapter is a remarkable achievment that will not be the norm - and to complete every mission and bonus in a chapter is a remarkable achievment that will not be the norm - multiply by atm 3 and u still have one hell of a title to be proud of. Those guys already with KOABD will want to push on to PKM anyway!!! And I dont feel sorry for those who will lose a title but celebrate with them the fact that with a little application they can max out!
Ignore any smelling mistooks plz off work with heavy cold TY!!!
The fact remains - to cap every skill in a chapter is a remarkable achievment that will not be the norm, - to hug every wall in a chapter is a remarkable achievment that will not be the norm - and to complete every mission and bonus in a chapter is a remarkable achievment that will not be the norm - multiply by atm 3 and u still have one hell of a title to be proud of. Those guys already with KOABD will want to push on to PKM anyway!!! And I dont feel sorry for those who will lose a title but celebrate with them the fact that with a little application they can max out!
Ignore any smelling mistooks plz off work with heavy cold TY!!!
WhiteZombie
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"My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany"
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MegaMouse
/SIGNED
I see far too many Kind of a Big Deal titles on players who havent truly earned it. Chapter pecific titles would help out quite a bit (I like the idea of International Explorer as I love to find every nook and cranny of every map). Also they should do away with account based titles, make every title character based.
Mega Mouse
I see far too many Kind of a Big Deal titles on players who havent truly earned it. Chapter pecific titles would help out quite a bit (I like the idea of International Explorer as I love to find every nook and cranny of every map). Also they should do away with account based titles, make every title character based.
Mega Mouse
Sanji
The major problem I have with titles is a lot of people are trying to make them a lot more serious and important than they really are. Kind of a Big Deal is not supposed to be like earning some sort of video game Nobel Peace prize, it's merely something fun to do with your characters if you're so inclined.
S_Serpent
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Also they should do away with account based titles, make every title character based.
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One I think that should be account based is:
Wisdom Seeker => should be account based (what do people do now, they only id with one char making alot of logon/logoff that could be avoided = alot of extra transmitting of data)
The pvp ones should remain account based too: fame, ... (just imagine having fame char based, that would simply be like a bad horror movie)
otherwise Guildwars would just become one big grindfest for titles over and over again.
Maybe something else that could be considered is a way to orden your titles, because now it's one big mess of title, if you could order them in a way that the ones completed the most are on top, it would be alot easier to see your progress on the title your working on.
Just my 2 eurocents
gamecube187
Yay making it possible to accually max skill hunter! But can it also be changed to account wise? I really don't see why I would cap monk skills with my warrior or visa versa...
Also, could you maybe also make the titles that affect your salvaging account based?
Oh well, even if you don't change those, the change that your having us vote on is a huge improvment as far as titles(IMO).
Also, could you maybe also make the titles that affect your salvaging account based?
Oh well, even if you don't change those, the change that your having us vote on is a huge improvment as far as titles(IMO).
NeHoMaR
Why people insist "Kind of a Big Deal" is hard to get? If you already have Tyria and Cantha explorer and protector when buy Nightfall, it's a matter of a few days and you (and thousands of people) will have that "Kind of a Big Deal" with explorer/protector of Elona. I am not telling get explorer/protector is easy, but I know thousands already have it, the only you need for "Kind of a Big Deal" is the 3 chapters and just play the game (PvE)
Calen The Civl
I think the splitting of the Skill Hunter title is a good idea.
However, I would also like to see some way to organize the titles. Perhaps, like has been suggested, a tabbed based approach based on each game and leaving a "Global" tab for account based titles. A hiding option too would be nice.
However, I would also like to see some way to organize the titles. Perhaps, like has been suggested, a tabbed based approach based on each game and leaving a "Global" tab for account based titles. A hiding option too would be nice.
Prince Rakarth
i think that having international explorer is a good idea, but having seperate skil hunter titles isnt because this would make stuff like 'kind of a big deal' pretty easy to get and getting max elite caps on proh wouldnt be hard either as there arnt that many to it, you just need to know where to go.
Legendary Shiz
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Yay making it possible to accually max skill hunter! But can it also be changed to account wise? I really don't see why I would cap monk skills with my warrior or visa versa...
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Talal Flint
Hi everyone,
Wouldnt it be possible to have BOTH of these title options - one title that adds up all the skills you have capped on that char, and other titles that count the skills capped in each campaign? That way individuals could chose which one they want to display and could also work towards KOABD title.
Gaile - Would this be a possible option?
Wouldnt it be possible to have BOTH of these title options - one title that adds up all the skills you have capped on that char, and other titles that count the skills capped in each campaign? That way individuals could chose which one they want to display and could also work towards KOABD title.
Gaile - Would this be a possible option?
Darcy
I voted yes for separate titles, not that I'm anywhere near maxing the current one.
But I agree with other posters that:
1. not if it means having to start over and recap skills. To someone who has already capped an immense amount of skills across three chapters, that would be extreme punishment.
2. decide how to handle core skill caps before you make the change.
3. give us a way to shorten our titles list. Maybe with check boxes on the right hand to disable showing them on the list. Everyone has titles that they have no interest in obtaining.
But I agree with other posters that:
1. not if it means having to start over and recap skills. To someone who has already capped an immense amount of skills across three chapters, that would be extreme punishment.
2. decide how to handle core skill caps before you make the change.
3. give us a way to shorten our titles list. Maybe with check boxes on the right hand to disable showing them on the list. Everyone has titles that they have no interest in obtaining.
Sergio Leone
Obviously didn't read through everything but I voted for the 3 different titles.
I agree if it doesn't mean having to start over again.
My other idea (sorry if repeating) was that perhaps it could implemented that there was one for each campaign then a title that you can have called "Ultimo Supreme 1337 Skill Hunter" (over exaggerated example) that would pertain to achieving Skill Hunter in all 3 Campaigns so once you get every skill capped you can get this title to show you now have all Guild Wars Elites.
I agree if it doesn't mean having to start over again.
My other idea (sorry if repeating) was that perhaps it could implemented that there was one for each campaign then a title that you can have called "Ultimo Supreme 1337 Skill Hunter" (over exaggerated example) that would pertain to achieving Skill Hunter in all 3 Campaigns so once you get every skill capped you can get this title to show you now have all Guild Wars Elites.
Urban_Nomad
Hmmm, I like the idea very much, but we're going to need some way to clean out our title page. Personally, I have pretty much every title started somehow (4 minutes of drunkard during halloween) that I don't plan on actually completing. It would be nice if I could get that .2% Tyrian exploration off of my Dervish. It's not a big problem now, but with new chapters and new titles, along with changes like this, It might be nice to arrange them somehow. Maybe a "hide" option in the options menu somehow? I'm not really sure, I'm just rambling. I'm good at rambling.
Zexion
While you are at it Gaile. Can you suggest to the developers they make KoaBD account based? Of course, if you have the same title maxed on 2 diff chars, it would only count once. Pretty please?
_Zexion
_Zexion
Manic Smile
signed...
equal rewards > eliteness
equal rewards > eliteness
shardfenix
I like the idea. How would capping core elites work?
Kais Unduli
Sure, split them up. Maybe 2 separate title tracks would be a better option.
Clawdius_Talonious
where did this concept of starting over come in? Gaile says that those who have skill hunter titles spanning the continents will lose them and have to do some work to get them back. Not that we'd have to re-cap every skill, you can't even cap a skill after it's unlocked on that character... Also when titles were first put into the game, the titles that tracked effort you had already made were skill hunter and cartographer...
Livingston
I sooo want to see an international cartography and protector title.
However, for God's sake, please do not give it such a lame name as International Cartographer or International Protector.
If you have to, at least make International Cartographer into International Grandmaster Cartographer.
Personally I would make it Great Grandmaster Cartographer - or Grandmaster of Cartography, etc.
Simply shortening the title and adding international to it doesn't make for a nice displayable title.
Livingston
However, for God's sake, please do not give it such a lame name as International Cartographer or International Protector.
If you have to, at least make International Cartographer into International Grandmaster Cartographer.
Personally I would make it Great Grandmaster Cartographer - or Grandmaster of Cartography, etc.
Simply shortening the title and adding international to it doesn't make for a nice displayable title.
Livingston