[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles
Teger
I would say that you have a skill hunter title for each campaign, and 1 for all campaigns, but make the one for all campaigns not count for kind of a big deal.
Myzerie Payne
Bit late to the conversation... my apologies if somebody has suggestted this already...
I'm in favour of splitting the Skill hunter title into subtitles. I'd do four: 1 for Core and 1 for each continent. I'd be okay if it was an all-or-nothing (like missions).
Now, for the people whining about KoaBD becoming "meaningless" with each new game, how about this idea...
IF the next installment is going to be a new series and the three we have (Proph, Factions, NF) constitute the "Flameseeker Trilogy", why not make a (PvE, per-char) title to show you kicked butt. What I'm thinking is:
4 Skill Hunter (Core, P, F, N)
3 Carto (P, F, N)
3 Protector (P, F, N)
Progression is:
any four of the above MAXed: "Flameseeker Initiate"
any seven of the above MAXed: "Flameseeker Adept"
all ten of the above titles MAXed: "Flameseeker Master" (possibly displayed in gold if at all possible)
Since this title wouldn't be affected by any miscellaneous PvE titles (that you can buy -- Wisdom, *cough* *cough*) and isn't affected by PvP titles, this is one that would truly "mean" something. It wouldn't ever get watered down like KoaBD with new games. If you could max them, I'd even be okay with throwing Lightbringer and Sunspear in there (although it throws the weighting in favour of NF). And if anyone has better games, go for it.
One other, little request to the Devs: can we get title groups with +/- like the quest log? Carto group, Festival group (Gamer, Un/Lucky), PvP, etc. The length of my title window is getting a little ridiculous!
I'm in favour of splitting the Skill hunter title into subtitles. I'd do four: 1 for Core and 1 for each continent. I'd be okay if it was an all-or-nothing (like missions).
Now, for the people whining about KoaBD becoming "meaningless" with each new game, how about this idea...
IF the next installment is going to be a new series and the three we have (Proph, Factions, NF) constitute the "Flameseeker Trilogy", why not make a (PvE, per-char) title to show you kicked butt. What I'm thinking is:
4 Skill Hunter (Core, P, F, N)
3 Carto (P, F, N)
3 Protector (P, F, N)
Progression is:
any four of the above MAXed: "Flameseeker Initiate"
any seven of the above MAXed: "Flameseeker Adept"
all ten of the above titles MAXed: "Flameseeker Master" (possibly displayed in gold if at all possible)
Since this title wouldn't be affected by any miscellaneous PvE titles (that you can buy -- Wisdom, *cough* *cough*) and isn't affected by PvP titles, this is one that would truly "mean" something. It wouldn't ever get watered down like KoaBD with new games. If you could max them, I'd even be okay with throwing Lightbringer and Sunspear in there (although it throws the weighting in favour of NF). And if anyone has better games, go for it.
One other, little request to the Devs: can we get title groups with +/- like the quest log? Carto group, Festival group (Gamer, Un/Lucky), PvP, etc. The length of my title window is getting a little ridiculous!
Azza
i have about 170 Elites so far, i know its not a lot compared to some but i am tryn to get at least 5 a day from now on from the 3 campaigns.
Still will this prposal affect me in the short term if it goes ahead? Yes. Do i care? No. why not, because what they are propossing seems to be a better and fairer way for all game players. come on people without giving some kind of achievement to those who want them or feel that they need the prestiage it gives them these people will simply give up and stop playing and then we all may have to start paying to play online like WoW as well, time to think outside the square.
Speaking of being fair to ALL GAME PLAYERS, something should be done with Leechers from ABing and Factions Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry, i know I`ve given up on doing both because leechers get rewarded as much as active game players, i say give 10 seconds to get out of a starting point or resurection point or nothing is awarded to you.
Still will this prposal affect me in the short term if it goes ahead? Yes. Do i care? No. why not, because what they are propossing seems to be a better and fairer way for all game players. come on people without giving some kind of achievement to those who want them or feel that they need the prestiage it gives them these people will simply give up and stop playing and then we all may have to start paying to play online like WoW as well, time to think outside the square.
Speaking of being fair to ALL GAME PLAYERS, something should be done with Leechers from ABing and Factions Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry, i know I`ve given up on doing both because leechers get rewarded as much as active game players, i say give 10 seconds to get out of a starting point or resurection point or nothing is awarded to you.
Stemnin
I put up my choice as keeping the current system, but that was before I read the OP, first all, I don't really care about the titles, I have had many characters and only 1 has a max title, just for my rit a protector title, and my monk, which ive played over 1200 hours, got pretty much all titles in progress and couldn't really care less about it.
But I can understand some people wanting the titles and having fun getting the titles (it was fun for a time getting that title), so I would like to retract my vote and put +1 to making 3 separate skill hunter and 1 international skill hunter.
But I can understand some people wanting the titles and having fun getting the titles (it was fun for a time getting that title), so I would like to retract my vote and put +1 to making 3 separate skill hunter and 1 international skill hunter.
lucifair
i got my r 4 title and i really couldnt care less on whether its campaign specific or not...if u dont split it then i'll get the maxed title somewhere in the next 2 campaigns...and if it is split then i'll just finish capping the 5 factions elites, and the 10 proph elites i need for those maxed titles, so im either or
henrywitwicki
Splittin the skills... I certainly hope so! I capped ALL in Prophesies, only to find I had to wait for Factions. I capped all of Factions, only to find I had to wait for NightFall. I capped all (but one) in NightFall only to be very confused. Now I need more than there are avial including Nightfall. Odd, how you don't need to Map 100% of Prophesies, 100& of Factions, and 100% Nightfall, only to find you need 100% of something that is not out as yet for the Cartographer's title. ~ Adronius Silverbow
Gli
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Originally Posted by henrywitwicki
I capped ALL in Prophesies, only to find I had to wait for Factions.
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eudas
Hi there... Telamon Soulcutter, 193 elites capped.
IMO, Splitting the Skill Hunter title is not precisely the answer you need. In reading the first 5 or so pages of this thread, someone hit upon a much more elegant solution -- that is,
1) making skill hunter title account-wide; and
2) tie it to UAS for the account.
oh, and
3) QUIT COUNTING SKILLS FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER THAT ARE IN FOR BETA TESTERS FOR THE DAMNED TITLE.
to elaborate on part (2) above, title ranks gained for Skill Hunter should be tied to the overall number of skills unlocked on the account.
thanks,
eudas
p.s.
this was a pretty nice idea, too:
cheers,
eudas
IMO, Splitting the Skill Hunter title is not precisely the answer you need. In reading the first 5 or so pages of this thread, someone hit upon a much more elegant solution -- that is,
1) making skill hunter title account-wide; and
2) tie it to UAS for the account.
oh, and
3) QUIT COUNTING SKILLS FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER THAT ARE IN FOR BETA TESTERS FOR THE DAMNED TITLE.
to elaborate on part (2) above, title ranks gained for Skill Hunter should be tied to the overall number of skills unlocked on the account.
thanks,
eudas
p.s.
this was a pretty nice idea, too:
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PS: ... and if you are thinking about changes anyway, how about adding a little benefit for skill hunters, e.g. x % discount on all skill and signet of capture purchases, with x being the skill hunter level. |
eudas
eudas
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Originally Posted by korcan
it seems like you want "vanity items/armors" handed to you on a silver platter. if anet made nicer skins readily available to any player, would u still want them? nice skins are considered nice because of their rarity. all online rpgs will require some type of "grind" to acquire "vanity items/armors". if u dont have the time or dont want to "grind", be content with whats available to you.
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for example, if you wanted to take your +5 ene katana that you bought in Divine Path and buy the "shadow blade" skin for it for 5-10k, voila, there ya go. have fun.
eudas
Mr_Cynical
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Originally Posted by eudas
actually, if you could "buy" a skin at the weaponsmith for a given weapon, that might actually make weaponsmiths useful for a change.
for example, if you wanted to take your +5 ene katana that you bought in Divine Path and buy the "shadow blade" skin for it for 5-10k, voila, there ya go. have fun. eudas |
navatar1
Now I'm just wondering if they even are gonna implement this, or if maybe they're waiting till all the wintersday celebration is over. When I found this thread I really renewed my interest in elite skill capping, finished off those half dozen from each of factions and proph. I do have my KoaBD title, I just want a little more added on to it for the next one...
A Kantara
As a player that only got Factions and Nightfall in the last few months, I believe it is a good idea to split the titles and i agree in the way a-net has the right method to do it.
As to some of the comments of a few ppl on this web sight I believe they would make good Agony Aunt columnists and i would like them to try make a game that they would enjoy playing. Change is good. Think of tier 3 KOABD and the rest. I may not agree with All A-net does but at least they keep doing it.
As to some of the comments of a few ppl on this web sight I believe they would make good Agony Aunt columnists and i would like them to try make a game that they would enjoy playing. Change is good. Think of tier 3 KOABD and the rest. I may not agree with All A-net does but at least they keep doing it.
Soldat
I would definitely love to have the Skill Hunter title split into lesser titles by continent, but one "International" title is meh... as long as it doesn't count towards KoaBD and PKM I'd be fine with it I guess.
Stupid Shizno
Im tired of the rants "this cheapens the KoaBD title", as more campeigns come out the title becomes less "valued" as all you need to do is max out 5 titles, 3 protectors, 1 drunk, 1 survior. or 4 protectors, 1 survior. see what i mean? as more chapters come out, the KoaBD title becomes widley open to all. stop trying to put value into a title, they are all farmable.
Chinson Windancer
/vote, 3 campaign-specific titles
just curious, can we get some benefit as chest hunter or wisdom title some day by skill hunter title?
just curious, can we get some benefit as chest hunter or wisdom title some day by skill hunter title?
Athenia
/vote against
For someone like me who has the first tier of the skill title and I captured it in Factions and Nightfall, it would make me really irrate to loose my hard earned title because I didn't capture all of them in on place.
If you were to split the Elite Skill Title in relation to the individual chapters, would that mean that each unique elite skills would stay in each chapter and would not be able to be capped other chapters? How would you count the skill that are in all three chapters such as Barrage and Spell Breaker?
For someone like me who has the first tier of the skill title and I captured it in Factions and Nightfall, it would make me really irrate to loose my hard earned title because I didn't capture all of them in on place.
If you were to split the Elite Skill Title in relation to the individual chapters, would that mean that each unique elite skills would stay in each chapter and would not be able to be capped other chapters? How would you count the skill that are in all three chapters such as Barrage and Spell Breaker?
Rok
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Originally Posted by Athenia
/vote against
For someone like me who has the first tier of the skill title and I captured it in Factions and Nightfall, it would make me really irrate to loose my hard earned title because I didn't capture all of them in on place. If you were to split the Elite Skill Title in relation to the individual chapters, would that mean that each unique elite skills would stay in each chapter and would not be able to be capped other chapters? How would you count the skill that are in all three chapters such as Barrage and Spell Breaker? |
This may sound bad, but ... If you can't even be bothered to get the first tier just from a single campaign ... Do you really deserve it?
And it should not be account wide, that cheapens it ... A lot of people already spent time, money, and skill points to get all on a single character. Granted it is not something I will do with any of my other characters, it is a pain in the butt.
As for your first question, the answer should be obvious ... You won't be able to get non-chapter elite in that chapter ... Which is the point of splitting the title up.
bossie
I do not hope the Skill hunter title would be seperated into 3 max level titles. I have the kind of i big deal title with all the explorer and protector titles (6). I'm proud to have this title and it took me very very long to get it. Sepererate the skill hunter title into 3 new max titles means i get 3 new max titles too. (I have the Elite Skillhunter title) But please... with those 3 new max titles its no kind of a big deal anymore but a little effort. You should change the lvl 1 of the track like this. 
Otherwise I like the idea of the international titles as long as they dont count as max titles.
Otherwise I like the idea of the international titles as long as they dont count as max titles.
PyrAnkh
I voted against, itll cheapen KoaBD. For the people that dont feel like capping elites they wont use (goldsinks ftl), KoaBD is still rather hard to get. If you already have tier5 skillcapping, you will be KoaBD in no time.
MickysTheReaper
yoted yes btw, i have 187 elites
all this cheapen KoaBD is bull, thats why u have PKM. i am sure the majority mostly got it with 3 GMC and 3 protector titles,(btw i understand some ppl may have it different so dont flame me)
any way there are at least 3 titles that can be bought(drunkard,treasure and wisdom) so all you need is 1 prot and 1 gmc for one area. so really it is all ready cheap even if it costs tonnes of gold to get these plus in nightfall you have afk stratergies for holy LB, so there's anther one
and i agree with what some other ppl say, with more campaigns KoaBD will be even easer.
all this cheapen KoaBD is bull, thats why u have PKM. i am sure the majority mostly got it with 3 GMC and 3 protector titles,(btw i understand some ppl may have it different so dont flame me)
any way there are at least 3 titles that can be bought(drunkard,treasure and wisdom) so all you need is 1 prot and 1 gmc for one area. so really it is all ready cheap even if it costs tonnes of gold to get these
plus in nightfall you have afk stratergies for holy LB, so there's anther oneand i agree with what some other ppl say, with more campaigns KoaBD will be even easer.
AbyssDarkstar
split the title, but instead of the international title keep the one thats there already... or if ya add international titles make the first lvl "from 2 campaigns" then 3, 4, 5, 6, ect. not first lvl as 3 campaigns...
Ashleigh McMahon
I'm sorry but I disagree with you on this one.
The Koabd title is to hard to achieve at the moment in my opinion. This should help it balance abit. Still requires time and effort, but divides it up abit.
I can see where you are coming from though, as some people would like to keep it very hard to get..but it's in my opinion that it shouldn't be extremely hard to get, just hard.
Thanks.
Ashleigh
The Koabd title is to hard to achieve at the moment in my opinion. This should help it balance abit. Still requires time and effort, but divides it up abit.
I can see where you are coming from though, as some people would like to keep it very hard to get..but it's in my opinion that it shouldn't be extremely hard to get, just hard.
Thanks.
Ashleigh
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Originally Posted by Jamski
This cheapens "Kind of a big deal", I vote against.
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Express2022
Titles
1) Tyrian Elite Skill Master
2) Canthan Elite Skill Master
3) Elonian Elite Skill Master
Just suggestion XD
You know what would be great... If a person reaches the highest tier for a Title they should get like a special emote. Much like the people that Farm HA to get emotes......
1) Tyrian Elite Skill Master
2) Canthan Elite Skill Master
3) Elonian Elite Skill Master
Just suggestion XD
You know what would be great... If a person reaches the highest tier for a Title they should get like a special emote. Much like the people that Farm HA to get emotes......
Xunlai Master
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Originally Posted by Jamski
This cheapens "Kind of a big deal", I vote against.
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Yawgmoth
Yeah it cheapens KaoBD but the biggest problem is it also cheapens PKM alot! So the true elite title will have to be the 3rd level of it.
Pwny Ride
This will help people who dont have a maxed skill hunter title, and dont have the money or time to endlessly cap every elite (such as myself).
EXCELLENT idea, so of course i voted yes.
EXCELLENT idea, so of course i voted yes.
Cuthroat Dibbler
So....
erm....*shuffles toes in sand....
when IS this 'update' gonna happen
erm....*shuffles toes in sand....
when IS this 'update' gonna happen
-.-
When Anet finally adds the ability for people to max out Spearmarshal normally.
Revan Bastille
I'm in favor of splitting up the Skill Hunter Titles. After all, if Anet doesn't, you can never hit the max title, as the number grows with each new campaign. I also like the idea of the International Protector and Cartographer titles too.
Someone also mentioned the Wisdom and Treasure Hunter Titles be account based instead of character based. I would be in favor of this... I've been playing for almost a year and haven't even hit 100 for each of these titles. I understand that it would change the titles, but 10,000 rare items and high end chests with one character...
Someone also mentioned the Wisdom and Treasure Hunter Titles be account based instead of character based. I would be in favor of this... I've been playing for almost a year and haven't even hit 100 for each of these titles. I understand that it would change the titles, but 10,000 rare items and high end chests with one character...
Athenia
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Originally Posted by Rok
This may sound bad, but ... If you can't even be bothered to get the first tier just from a single campaign ... Do you really deserve it? |
Dougal Kronik
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Originally Posted by Athenia
Wow, elitism in a video game. So because I am too lazy in your eyes to cap from a single chapter of a game, that makes me unworthy to have the title? It's a game and if I choose to cap elites from from various chapters, I am still doing what everyone else does... buying skill caps and venturing out to cap it myself. I should not be punished because I choose to cap from various chapters instead of a single one.
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So, I would say you don't have to be punished, but you really have nothing to say if you haven't capped at least to level 4 of the Skill Hunter title.
CagedinSanity
I know it'll take me a couple years to get anything like this title (althroughout my characters i must have only like 11 elites) But i tihnk the first option makes more sense.
Though this seems to be a landslide.
Though this seems to be a landslide.
Rok
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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
Well if you haven't capped all the Elites from each campaign, you are nowhere near having a maxed title.
So, I would say you don't have to be punished, but you really have nothing to say if you haven't capped at least to level 4 of the Skill Hunter title. |
Kook~NBK~
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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
Well if you haven't capped all the Elites from each campaign, you are nowhere near having a maxed title.
So, I would say you don't have to be punished, but you really have nothing to say if you haven't capped at least to level 4 of the Skill Hunter title. |
Rok
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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
Even if you have capped all the elites from each chapter you're nowhere near having a maxed title.
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wostl
We all need easier max titles: So plz split it up immediately!
And we need emotes for these insane new titles then - plz...
omfg
And we need emotes for these insane new titles then - plz...
omfg
Kook~NBK~
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Originally Posted by Rok
Umm, that is exactly the reason for this thread...DUH
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But the question is: What's the word on this? It's been a couple of months and we're not hearing anything.
Rok
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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
Are you sure? I thought A-net is just looking for quick and easy ways to cheapen the KOABD title.
But the question is: What's the word on this? It's been a couple of months and we're not hearing anything. |
Gaile said so in one of the chat logs or in a reply somewhere.
I would dig it up myself, but I'm not at home - at work using my Sidekick, by the time I found it and posted the link I would be off work - 2 hours from now.
Don't remember if she said when it would happen.
Rabbit28
If KOABD was so easy to get, it wouldn't be worth getting 
I voted against
I voted against
Sword
explorer x3
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protector x3
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skill hunter x3
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9 towards people know me
...that just lame imo. Those title are easy to get and barely time consuming at all... nothing impressive at all.
All you need is 1 more title after that and u have 10. Easy to get pve titles are ftl ... then adding a bunch together for KOAB or even PKM is just lame imo.
If pvers want to get cool titles make them work for it, none of this protector and skill hunter crap
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protector x3
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skill hunter x3
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9 towards people know me
...that just lame imo. Those title are easy to get and barely time consuming at all... nothing impressive at all.
All you need is 1 more title after that and u have 10. Easy to get pve titles are ftl ... then adding a bunch together for KOAB or even PKM is just lame imo.
If pvers want to get cool titles make them work for it, none of this protector and skill hunter crap