[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles

Clerihew

Clerihew

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

At the bar

Dragons of Ice and Flame [Ice]

Mo/

If you are adding more titles to the KoaBD track then I am all for it. One of the only title tracks I haven't tried for over any characters has been skill hunter because there has never been an end in sight. They do say that happiness comes from achieveable goals, right?

/signed

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

/voted in favor of revamping

great idea

rhuber

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/Mo

Yes to the split of titles. I started capping skills (have 290) for the skill title track and for the KoaBD/PKM master title track. If I had known that the skill title would never apply to the KoaBD I probably never would have started it. So, please split them up.

I would like to see the current non-maxable skill title track remain as the "International" track. I like the idea of a neverending title, that is a known neverending title from the beginning, that shows everyone how determined you are about capping skills.

I think one for cartography would be great too: Worldwide Grandmaster Cartographer (1)(2)(3)(4) etc. Non-maxable, yet allows me to show that I am insane enough to run the edges of all 3 chapters and call it "fun".

Thanks Gaile!
RH

stefan_moore

stefan_moore

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

i think this is a really good idea. When i started going for skill hunter title i belived that you coulod max it out (didnt really think about it that much just assumed) so whne i found out that you couldnt i was dissapointed that after al the work i had done i wasnt going to get a maxed title no matter how hard i tryed. so i think giving a individual title for each campaign is a gd way to give peopel a goal to reach and help with the KOBD title. I also think that introducing a "International" track would keep the die hard skill hunters happy because they can show that they do not only have all the skills from one campaign but from many.

/signed

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

I think Maxable Chapter specific is best.

*And I'm saying this even when it means I lose my adept skill hunter title (160+ elites so far)*

Having an endless title track isn't that great, well I guess you could say Hero title is endless since there is no Fame Cap, but each level of that title grants you more balt cap and every 3 lvls grants you a new emote, so it not maxxing isnt that horrible.

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

I agree with this title change. I've been working on the skill titles for quite some time. Getting the skill points and money for this title is very time consuming and i'd like to be rewarded for my effort.

/voted yes

Wobrak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Order of the BlackSheep

I like the idea of regional titles and the international titles.

I voted for campaign specific titles.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

I've already voiced my favorable opinion of this change, but I would like to add one suggestion. How about an account-wide title for the number of maxed titles on your account ? Just have an unending number of levels - one for each maxed title on the account. You could display it on your characters that you don't focus on, to show that you have done a lot of things, just not on that particular character. I don't think this (or the international skill hunter, protector, or cartography titles) should be maxable, since to me that would be double counting, but it would be nice to display something while you play your "off" characters.

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
I think it would be more interesting, and more challenging, if the "International" title track would increase when you've completed everything within that campaign. The track would increase when Cartographer, Protector, and Skill Hunter have been completed from that chapter as a final way of saying "Yes, I have beaten this campaign to the fullest".
Excellent idea imo...keeps there from being an excess of "international this, international that" titles and creates a title that takes a true amount of effort.

Zegorzalek

Zegorzalek

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Platoon

Yes.. I like the idea.

Gwenny

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Munich

Die Wuiderer

Mo/

I also like the idea to become an international what so ever.
It would also become much more simple to get KoabD when someone only has one or two chapters.
To get some benefit from the skill hunter title like it was already said pay less for skills would also be a nice idea.
But at this time its enough to split the title in three. Never coming to an end with a title is *aaaargh*

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

/signed

Had to take some time to think about it; I will personally lose my skill title because I know I'm spread out across the campaigns, but at the same time I will gain the chance to max things out, and will have more incentive to go get those bad evil elites that are hard to reach. It's a bit of an anticlimax getting a skill hunter rank at the moment because you know you can never finish it.

I do need to know about Core skills though, or it's too confusing. I'm sure the team has thought of this though??

I agree with those that say KOABD is easier every chapter anyway. It still takes a conscious effort to go and get it. And more people having it doesn't hurt anyone in any way, so stop moaning. That title will gain extra ranks to aim for, there will always be a prestige title that the few have.

apk526

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hammers of Thunder

Mo/Me

I wouldn't mind adding new titles, but I am totaly against getting rid of the old skill hunter titles. I would prefer to wear my skill hunter title over KoaBD just bacause KoaBD is so easy to get now, and I dont like having the same title as everyone else :-P. The way it is now is almost like a PvE version of the Hero titles, which I think is nice to have.

Contempt

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

the people have spoken! make it so

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

Skill hunter is one of the few tracks I persue so some way to earn max titles toward koabd would be good as long as it was somehow retroactive to all the folks who had been working on skill hunter. And just renaming the skill hunter track to International would be the easiest way to preserve that if you add in the campaign specific ones.

as for the poll neither option is really good. needs to be a 3rd option for:
changing skill hunter to International Skill Hunter and adding campaign specific titles

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

^^agree with Pkest on that. but yeah, seems clear what people want

Meister Ismail

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Odins Juenger

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhuber
Yes to the split of titles. I started capping skills (have 290) for the skill title track and for the KoaBD/PKM master title track. If I had known that the skill title would never apply to the KoaBD I probably never would have started it. So, please split them up.

I would like to see the current non-maxable skill title track remain as the "International" track. I like the idea of a neverending title, that is a known neverending title from the beginning, that shows everyone how determined you are about capping skills.
(...)
Thanks Gaile!
Thats the point. I totally agree.

I also didnt know that skill hunter title is not maxable (I reached 215 skills or something by now), so I would be very confident if there is such a change giving me 2 new maxed skill hunter titles in exchange for my progressed skillhunter title (dont know the correct english expression). Its so unfair to have a title you really worked hard for but which will never be possible to max.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Thanks a lot to those who voted, to those who commented, as well. Feel free to vote if you have not already done so, and share your thoughts, too. I'll be gathering the totals on Sunday.

Thanks again!

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Thanks a lot to those who voted, to those who commented, as well. Feel free to vote if you have not already done so, and share your thoughts, too. I'll be gathering the totals on Sunday.

Thanks again!
...is that even necessary?

I think it's a...little resounding that people are in favor...

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

I've thought that this is the way it should have been from the beginning.

/signed so long as the teirs for max titles keep coming from the movie AnchorMan.

Cloudpiercer

Cloudpiercer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/

I strongly agree with this idea.

If people think it cheapens KOABD then aim for people know me, or the next level.

I think I'd wear the international Skill Hunter one anyway

Also international titles for Protector and Cartographer titles would be cool as well (never ending titles that dont add to KOABD)

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Oh yea, like what Jamki said.

It cheapens the KoaBD title
Who cares?

Does this mean skill hunter is only available to those who purchase each and every campaign? Think about the children who don't own every campaign!

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Kind of a Big Deal is already easy for people who want to get it (3 protector + 2 cartographer) so I don't see the need for 3 more relatively easy titles.

But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles.

If you add the international skill hunter title, I'm ok with it, since we're not losing the current skill hunter title that way...

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Who cares?
Less people would see KoaBD as impressive, which is the whole point of titles in general IMO. Before NF, I considered KoaBD impressive because it required at least one "difficult" (read: lots of work) title in addition to two cartographers and protectors. With NF, it got a lot easier. Splitting skill hunter will give people a lot of "easy" titles to get for KoaBD (2)

Keeper of Birds

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Wrath of Silvana

N/Mo

Voted for- currently at 210 elites and plan to get them all.

It seems to me the objections to this are more around how it cheapens KoaBD. As long as it mixes different types of titles, KoaBD is a mixed bag anyway. Getting a max explorer title, or high gladiator title has a lot more weight with me than all of the maxed out lucky and unlucky AFK types.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Kind of a Big Deal is already easy for people who want to get it (3 protector + 2 cartographer) so I don't see the need for 3 more relatively easy titles.

But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles.

If you add the international skill hunter title, I'm ok with it, since we're not losing the current skill hunter title that way...

Less people would see KoaBD as impressive, which is the whole point of titles in general IMO. Before NF, I considered KoaBD impressive because it required at least one "difficult" (read: lots of work) title in addition to two cartographers and protectors. With NF, it got a lot easier. Splitting skill hunter will give people a lot of "easy" titles to get for KoaBD (2)
Onoes1!11 mah poor epeen!

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Helcaraxe
I'm in favor... everyone loves more titles, and having a title track that cannot be maxed is rather pointless.

anyway, on the subject of titles I would like to suggest an addition. The Adventurer title track, which would be based on how many side quests a specific character has completed. Make it Campaign specific and go by percentage of quests done rather than actual number since they seem to vary between camapaigns. so we would have ex.

Elonian Adventurer > Heroic Elonian Adventurer > Master Elonian Adventurer > etc...

you get the idea. Gaile... you better read this
Yes.

I would like this title to be implemented.

DomoniBellumMaximus

DomoniBellumMaximus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Domoni Bellum

W/Mo

Makes sense to split it up amongst the campaigns.

LiamR

LiamR

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]

What A Magnificent Rainbow (3)
Do Me On It! (4)

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Chapter specific please! Easy KOABD ftw!

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

I vote for. But.....

How are u gonna solve it with the core skills? If u capped it in P, it'll be counted as capped in F and NF too?

Ashantara

Ashantara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe

The Second Rising [TSR]

R/

I prefer to keep the Skill Hunter title as it is, because most people are playing more than 1 character, and with making the title campaign-limited you would give those who play few characters (with whom they unlock and capture skills of more than 2 professions) an unfair advantage to those who play many characters.

Just my 2 cents . . .

arkadiusz

arkadiusz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guardians of the Stars [GOTS]

voted for; more titles would make the "bought" and afk titles matter less in the totals on koabd track.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashantara
I prefer to keep the Skill Hunter title as it is, because most people are playing more than 1 character, and with making the title campaign-limited you would give those who play few characters (with whom they unlock and capture skills of more than 2 professions) an unfair advantage to those who play many characters.

Just my 2 cents . . .
Uh.. that didn't make sense. If it's split to campaigns, then your single character who's got the skill hunter titles now would have multiple maxed out titles... nothing unfair about it.

'course, I'd like to keep the title simply because if I wanna show off, I"d like to show off that I've gotten more than just a single campaign worth of elites on one character.

Bahamut44

Bahamut44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sweden

Stop Stealing [agro]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
I would also very much like to suggest campaign specific Questing Titles. There should be a reward for completing every quest in a campaign.
I second this i'd very much like to see this implemented. Also /signed to the original topic. Splitting the title is a great idea.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

So, if I cap a core elite, I will have 1 point for each 3 titles? (3 points in total, 1 for each specific chapter)

And please don't use "international skill hunter" as the final name of the title; that sound plenty stupid.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

I'd like to see an account based skill hunter title rather than one that is character based.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

Already discussed that...
Currently to date theres only on accountbased PvE titl and it's lucky/unlucky.

Keep it that way.
Making the Skill Hunter title account based makes it rubbish.
What's the difficulty in capping all the elites with 8 different characters?
None whatsoever.

O Nuxtofulakas

O Nuxtofulakas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Did u check your closet?

N/

/signed

I fully agree with the proposed changes

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

Yes, id agree, but.. there should be a benefit for those who max all three titles.
As someone previously said, lowered prices in Signet and so on. Basically Skill related Benfits. Mabye lowering of Skill trainer costs?

Infinity^

Infinity^

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

House Behelit

R/

/signed

maybe have a maxable title for each professions skills? Or a title for each skill?

While your at it maybe nerf all sence of continuing progression and achievement from the game? And give me a crystaline sword please.

Thanks.

ps: sarcasm

pps: lollers!