SCREW ANet and GUild Wars....come on!!!!....so if you play an hour or 2 a day your NOT ELITE...cause you don't have time to find a group that can even stay alive 5 minutes....just make the whoole damn game PvP that's what you want anyways. I'm about ready to PAY monthly for a WoW account.
You made the ENTIRE Nightfall experience playable with heroes...now the ELITE mission is tooooooooo damn hard for a casual player a a group of say four friends with elite heroes!!!!
SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Domain Of Anguish
Artkin
Twitch1977
I don't care about the difficulty or that the ritualist hero is tough to get, I'm fine with both of those.
I do however really wish they would have allowed Henchmen to be available for the mission and I don't really understand the motivation to not offer them. If the henchmen were available at least after the 3 hours I'm spent on the DoA I would have actually got to go inside rather than try to worm my way into a group. From the little bit I have seen of the DoA henchmen aren't going to cut it anyways, but at least I'd have a chance to play around with a few builds and whatnot.
So I gave up on the DoA and started moving a warrior through the game as fast as I can in hopes that when I get to DoA I'll actually be able to get in a group. If anyone knows what class I'll have the best chance with let me know. :/
Anet give me my henchies!!
T
I do however really wish they would have allowed Henchmen to be available for the mission and I don't really understand the motivation to not offer them. If the henchmen were available at least after the 3 hours I'm spent on the DoA I would have actually got to go inside rather than try to worm my way into a group. From the little bit I have seen of the DoA henchmen aren't going to cut it anyways, but at least I'd have a chance to play around with a few builds and whatnot.
So I gave up on the DoA and started moving a warrior through the game as fast as I can in hopes that when I get to DoA I'll actually be able to get in a group. If anyone knows what class I'll have the best chance with let me know. :/
Anet give me my henchies!!
T
The Ernada
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SCREW ANet and GUild Wars....come on!!!!....so if you play an hour or 2 a day your NOT ELITE...cause you don't have time to find a group that can even stay alive 5 minutes....just make the whoole damn game PvP that's what you want anyways. I'm about ready to PAY monthly for a WoW account.
You made the ENTIRE Nightfall experience playable with heroes...now the ELITE mission is tooooooooo damn hard for a casual player a a group of say four friends with elite heroes!!!! SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Artkin
WAITING for UBER Guild Wars GEEKS to tell me HOW to do it is NOT fun!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS A GAME....treat it as so!!!!!!!!!
You BLEW it ANet....chapter 4...I think not
THIS IS A GAME....treat it as so!!!!!!!!!
You BLEW it ANet....chapter 4...I think not
Vahn Roi
Wow, the whining is getting worse and worse, sounds like the last few pages are full of 8 year olds crying.
I spent all last night and all of today exploring DoA and doing the primary quests with guildies. It's starting to wear on me given the fact that after all that time was spent we still have no finished any of the 4 parts of the primary quest. I still do not ask for a nerf, as I felt the exact same way about Urgoz and the Deep when I first started playing them.
It seems trappers and SF are the only groups having any success which worries be a bit, I don't want to see DoA turn into Tombs were all you can do is join a B/P group if you have a ranger, monk or necro. I am with the people who worry about discrimination.
:edit: and if you didn't know, Gaile herself confirmed their was a specific build that can travel the Domain of Anguish with ease and complete all the quests and missions, so you can no longer say it's impossible :P
I spent all last night and all of today exploring DoA and doing the primary quests with guildies. It's starting to wear on me given the fact that after all that time was spent we still have no finished any of the 4 parts of the primary quest. I still do not ask for a nerf, as I felt the exact same way about Urgoz and the Deep when I first started playing them.
It seems trappers and SF are the only groups having any success which worries be a bit, I don't want to see DoA turn into Tombs were all you can do is join a B/P group if you have a ranger, monk or necro. I am with the people who worry about discrimination.
:edit: and if you didn't know, Gaile herself confirmed their was a specific build that can travel the Domain of Anguish with ease and complete all the quests and missions, so you can no longer say it's impossible :P
Theus
DoA?More like Meh.I'm all for difficulty,but only when thats reasonable.
Not the type of difficulty that wipes a party not even a minute into the map.Because this place is going to be just like UW,FoW,The Deep,Urgoz,Tombs and SF.A primary build will be established and all of the other classes will be driven to extinction.
Not the type of difficulty that wipes a party not even a minute into the map.Because this place is going to be just like UW,FoW,The Deep,Urgoz,Tombs and SF.A primary build will be established and all of the other classes will be driven to extinction.
Waldir
i finished part of it with the frost build...
Monk Backline
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1 bonder
1 active prot
1 healer mixed bar (prot spirit included)
2 Nukers
1 Ranger CG/Winter/Symbiosis
1 Tank
1 Bip Necro
all but the bonder need mantra of frost(mes skill)
take a good agro control warrior.
seems to work good, reduced dmg from frost helps the monks alot
Monk Backline
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1 bonder
1 active prot
1 healer mixed bar (prot spirit included)
2 Nukers
1 Ranger CG/Winter/Symbiosis
1 Tank
1 Bip Necro
all but the bonder need mantra of frost(mes skill)
take a good agro control warrior.
seems to work good, reduced dmg from frost helps the monks alot
stamenflicker
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and if you didn't know, Gaile herself confirmed their was a specific build that can travel the Domain of Anguish with ease and complete all the quests and missions, so you can no longer say it's impossible :P
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While I think there may be some interesting combinations of builds that might work, and quite remotely a build out there I will personally scoff at the
"with ease"
statement.
Flicka Scoffs.
Urban_Nomad
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:edit: and if you didn't know, Gaile herself confirmed their was a specific build that can travel the Domain of Anguish with ease and complete all the quests and missions, so you can no longer say it's impossible :P
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blastm
sometimes, I wonder what Anet is thinking..
They nerfed hundreds builds 'cause they slowed down the game, or 'cause they were overused..
and yet they manage to create areas like this.
the game in there is not nervous at all, progressing is so laborious it hurts, we already now that there will only be a handfull of team builds that will bring us far, and the worse is, what i've seen of the scenery so far is not what i would call magnificent.
Too bad they only care about balance when it comes to pvp.
They nerfed hundreds builds 'cause they slowed down the game, or 'cause they were overused..
and yet they manage to create areas like this.
the game in there is not nervous at all, progressing is so laborious it hurts, we already now that there will only be a handfull of team builds that will bring us far, and the worse is, what i've seen of the scenery so far is not what i would call magnificent.
Too bad they only care about balance when it comes to pvp.
Muskegon Raider
Some facts....
DoA Day 1, 24:00 PM-European district: 13 english districts, 10 french districts, 15 german districts, 3 italian districts, 4 spanish districts
DoA Day 2, 24:00PM- European districts: 3 english districts, 3 french, 4 german, 1 italian, 1 spanish
O.o
DoA Day 1, 24:00 PM-European district: 13 english districts, 10 french districts, 15 german districts, 3 italian districts, 4 spanish districts
DoA Day 2, 24:00PM- European districts: 3 english districts, 3 french, 4 german, 1 italian, 1 spanish
O.o
natuxatu
Looks like the majority are staying away.. good untill it's fixed I recommend that.
Stay out of DoA to protest (If you want to protest that is. If you're enjoying it, then continue.)
Stay out of DoA to protest (If you want to protest that is. If you're enjoying it, then continue.)
TheLordOfBlah
LOL everyone in here is toal nub, i soloed it already gg.
Sidra
Will do. You crazies can stay in there if you want, but I've got some ranger 15k sets to complete. Have fun with your newfound kingdom.
Llint
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SCREW ANet and GUild Wars....come on!!!!....so if you play an hour or 2 a day your NOT ELITE...cause you don't have time to find a group that can even stay alive 5 minutes....just make the whoole damn game PvP that's what you want anyways. I'm about ready to PAY monthly for a WoW account.
You made the ENTIRE Nightfall experience playable with heroes...now the ELITE mission is tooooooooo damn hard for a casual player a a group of say four friends with elite heroes!!!! SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
This place isn't SUPER hard. However... You'll find yourselves dead in 10 seconds if you dont come prepared
Theus
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Some facts....
DoA Day 1, 24:00 PM-European district: 13 english districts, 10 french districts, 15 german districts, 3 italian districts, 4 spanish districts DoA Day 2, 24:00PM- European districts: 3 english districts, 3 french, 4 german, 1 italian, 1 spanish O.o |
People play this game to have fun.Not be frustrated to wits end just to get some stupid Tormented Weaponry.
w00t!
Sorrow's Furnace was impossible. After a few weeks, teams of more than 5 were very uncommon.
Most Tombs teams didn't make it past the first map. After a bit, it was a contest to see if you could run Tombs in less than an hour and 10 minutes.
Urgoz wiped out most teams in minutes. After a few weeks, we were experimenting with 4 person teams.
DoA is insanely hard. Let's whine and cry and get Anet to make it easier for us.
/grin
Most Tombs teams didn't make it past the first map. After a bit, it was a contest to see if you could run Tombs in less than an hour and 10 minutes.
Urgoz wiped out most teams in minutes. After a few weeks, we were experimenting with 4 person teams.
DoA is insanely hard. Let's whine and cry and get Anet to make it easier for us.
/grin
GSUS
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LOL everyone in here is toal nub, i soloed it already gg.
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.... HAHAHAHAH
that was a good one man
AlienFromBeyond
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Sorrow's Furnace was impossible. After a few weeks, teams of more than 5 were very uncommon.
Most Tombs teams didn't make it past the first map. After a bit, it was a contest to see if you could run Tombs in less than an hour and 10 minutes. Urgoz wiped out most teams in minutes. After a few weeks, we were experimenting with 4 person teams. DoA is insanely hard. Let's whine and cry and get Anet to make it easier for us. /grin |
Rera
Well, here's the thing - there needs to be a skill barrier somewhere. People were complaining that Gate of Madness is too hard for newbies, and that it should be toned down because it's part of the normal storyline, blah blah blah. That argument doesn't apply here. The Domain of Anguish is supposed to be the most difficult area in the game, and it's not part of the normal storyline. The only thing that Anet is really compelled to give you is *equal access* to the area. Actually beating the area is up to you.
I'd be perfectly happy if most people simply stopped playing this area, either out of frustration, protest, etc. That means the loot drops and whatnot will be distributed amongst a smaller group of good players, as they should be. Unfortunately, I have no doubt that there will soon be gimmick builds that allow even the worst players to finish this area. But until then, I'm happy to enjoy the difficulty and relatively n00b-free environment.
I'd be perfectly happy if most people simply stopped playing this area, either out of frustration, protest, etc. That means the loot drops and whatnot will be distributed amongst a smaller group of good players, as they should be. Unfortunately, I have no doubt that there will soon be gimmick builds that allow even the worst players to finish this area. But until then, I'm happy to enjoy the difficulty and relatively n00b-free environment.
viper008
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LOL everyone in here is toal nub, i soloed it already gg.
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Yeah sure you did
Theus
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Originally Posted by w00t!
Sorrow's Furnace was impossible. After a few weeks, teams of more than 5 were very uncommon.
Most Tombs teams didn't make it past the first map. After a bit, it was a contest to see if you could run Tombs in less than an hour and 10 minutes. Urgoz wiped out most teams in minutes. After a few weeks, we were experimenting with 4 person teams. DoA is insanely hard. Let's whine and cry and get Anet to make it easier for us. /grin |
And once these builds come out,guess what?
A bunch of classes will be left out simply because they cannot fit in your "UBER GODLY GROUP".And if thats what Anet had planned for this area,then DoA by all means is a failure.Just like Tombs.UW.FoW.Deep.Urgoz.SF.Failures.
maraxusofk
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I could care less that we can't get past the first couple of mobs in EVERY DoA zone, but i DO care when we make some serious and determined attempts, only to walk away with a 11-28 dmg hammer? Or a 6-21 dmg spear? If i can't even get the simplest of max statistic WHITE items in the HARDEST area of the whole game, what's to keep my interest? There is only the incentive to getting the Armbraces of Truth for the weapons, but that feet in itself is INCREDIBLY hard at the moment. Anyone else notice drop quality in all of NF... and more specifically the crap quality of drops in the HARDEST part of the game, Domain of Anguish?
In the VERY LEAST we should be getting white items with MAX dmg or MAX statistics. This fact is ridiculous and leaves the most ridiculous incentive value ever. If Anet is going to deny a drop-quality problem AGAIN, then i think i just about am done with RoA and perhaps all of NF.... EITHER... |
i appreciate the new elite mission though anet. however................
when u made urgoz or the deep u had the bright idea to make it 12 man. how come u dont do the same for a area that is MUCH harder? id dare say this is harder than both combined, but with 4 less people. it might be possible to do if we had 4 more ppl, probably with 1-2 ritualist using shelter for the 200+ dmg every hit.
anet doesnt understand moderation. when ppl said the margonites were easy, i dont think that meant "please make every single enemy the equivalent of a boss in the hell realm."
Digital Bath
People complain when the game gets too easy, then people complain that it's too hard and the area HASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS to be nerfed so they can beat it. Then they complain about how easy it is again. Honestly, wtf. If at first you don't succeed, try and try again. And if you think it's too hard for you then gtfo and stop whining so damn much. Althea's Ashes used to be hella challenging when it was first out, then people whined they couldn't do it and it was nerfed into oblivion and made into a joke. I really would like to see how all these whiners deal will deal with real problems in real life at their jobs, at school, etc. where you just can't nerf something because you refuse to apply yourself that much. Elite...keep that in mind. Yea, elitism is gonna be prominent here and if you refuse to apply yourself then you shouldn't be there to begin with so just stay out and keep your mouth's shut.
Honestly, this is turning into Whine Wars.
Honestly, this is turning into Whine Wars.
Ras Kass
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A bunch of classes will be left out simply because they cannot fit in your "UBER GODLY GROUP".And if thats what Anet had planned for this area,then DoA by all means is a failure.Just like Tombs.UW.FoW.Deep.Urgoz.SF.Failures.
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darksiege
They should increase the party limit to 10 or 12 to compensate for the err7's lol
natuxatu
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Well, here's the thing - there needs to be a skill barrier somewhere. People were complaining that Gate of Madness is too hard for newbies, and that it should be toned down because it's part of the normal storyline, blah blah blah. That argument doesn't apply here. The Domain of Anguish is supposed to be the most difficult area in the game, and it's not part of the normal storyline. The only thing that Anet is really compelled to give you is *equal access* to the area. Actually beating the area is up to you.
I'd be perfectly happy if most people simply stopped playing this area, either out of frustration, protest, etc. That means the loot drops and whatnot will be distributed amongst a smaller group of good players, as they should be. Unfortunately, I have no doubt that there will soon be gimmick builds that allow even the worst players to finish this area. But until then, I'm happy to enjoy the difficulty and relatively n00b-free environment. |
What saddens me is that this would be fun.. to explore the area and collect all the gems needed ect. I don't think this area should be nor needs to be as hard as it is... because if it wasn't I think it would be MORE fun. If you want difficult I rather those players get an area to themselves that doesn't rely so heavily on getting Razza or the gold weapons at the trader ect. Hope that made sense...
Oh and Stay out of DoA in Protest (if you want
) I know I will be.. but I'm still interested to see what the weapons look like so I'll be checkin the thread ~Quote:
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Originally Posted by Digital Bath
People complain when the game gets too easy, then people complain that it's too hard and the area HASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS to be nerfed so they can beat it. Then they complain about how easy it is again. Honestly, wtf. If at first you don't succeed, try and try again. And if you think it's too hard for you then gtfo and stop whining so damn much. Althea's Ashes used to be hella challenging when it was first out, then people whined they couldn't do it and it was nerfed into oblivion and made into a joke. I really would like to see how all these whiners deal will deal with real problems in real life at their jobs, at school, etc. where you just can't nerf something because you refuse to apply yourself that much. Elite...keep that in mind. Yea, elitism is gonna be prominent here and if you refuse to apply yourself then you shouldn't be there to begin with so just stay out and keep your mouth's shut.
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Theus
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You can actually play UW, FoW, and SF successfully without a generic/"cookie cutter" build, so I fail to see how those are failures.
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unienaule
I would just like to remind everyone that the people who say that PvE is too easy and the people who complain that DoA is too hard are probably not the same people. I am one of the people who says PvE is too easy. I would now have to amend that to say PvE, except for the DoA, is too easy.
leprekan
Sorry if it was answered in last thousand posts ... anyone figure out what the coffer reward is yet? Trying to decide if I want to waste time finding out.
Ras Kass
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No,its the fact that if you went into say,Temple of Ancients as an Assassin looking for a party for UW/FoW,chances are,you're not going to get one.Same for that of SF.
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SumXone
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WHO is whining about gw being too easy?
where the heck are all those masses?
it's only in your head bro, most people do not think gw is too easy.
IF you want a more challenging game experience, then try to beat gw without skills or without armor. there are ALWAYS ways to make this game more challenging for yourself. maybe don't use 8 ppl to clear fow, use 4. and voila, there is your challenge.
but don't pretend gw is too easy.
AlienFromBeyond
I have had it trying to do this with PuGs.
Unfortunately, I'm not in a guild, so that leaves DoA out of the question. I was so looking forward to this too =/.
Unfortunately, I'm not in a guild, so that leaves DoA out of the question. I was so looking forward to this too =/.
Malice Black
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Thankyou Anet.
Finally a challenging area to test our pve mettle. All other quests were a joke, now there's something decent to play. DONT MAKE IT EASIER |
High end PvE needed something to liven it up because FoW/Tombs etc are a joke these days. Can't handle the heat? go back to Tombs and your B/P group.
manitoba1073
for those who like to have fun
took a friend with me to show him, there are some places that can be soloed. had to brighten the picture up to see. thats just a taste. like i said before the 55 build is alot more versitile than ppl give credit for.
took a friend with me to show him, there are some places that can be soloed. had to brighten the picture up to see. thats just a taste. like i said before the 55 build is alot more versitile than ppl give credit for.
The Ernada
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question:
WHO is whining about gw being too easy? where the heck are all those masses? |
DoA certainly isnt easy though. But that's what Elite missions are for arent they? My only complaint is that they stuck the ritualist hero in this mission.
Omfg_h4x
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for those who like to have fun
took a friend with me to show him, there are some places that can be soloed. had to brighten the picture up to see. thats just a taste. like i said before the 55 build is alot more versitile than ppl give credit for. |
Zinger314
I found the secret!
Scroll down a bit.
I'll give you a hint, it's an individual character build which was commonly used in HA before the change to 6v6...
[skill=text]Practiced Stance[/skill]/[skill=text]Choking Gas[/skill]!
Take 2 of these Rangers, and the AI Casters, who often clump up, can't do anything. Period. Who cares about 400 Invoke Lightning if they can't do anything about them?
Then just take a Curses Necro or Mesmer to sedate the Melee and Rangers.
Of course, it doesn't work in the Touch Necro area, but you get the point.
Hehe. Now I just have to find someone willing to confirm...sigh. Everyone is running that stupid Mantra of Frost build. I really need to get my Ranger through NF.
Scroll down a bit.
I'll give you a hint, it's an individual character build which was commonly used in HA before the change to 6v6...
[skill=text]Practiced Stance[/skill]/[skill=text]Choking Gas[/skill]!
Take 2 of these Rangers, and the AI Casters, who often clump up, can't do anything. Period. Who cares about 400 Invoke Lightning if they can't do anything about them?
Then just take a Curses Necro or Mesmer to sedate the Melee and Rangers.
Of course, it doesn't work in the Touch Necro area, but you get the point.
Hehe. Now I just have to find someone willing to confirm...sigh. Everyone is running that stupid Mantra of Frost build. I really need to get my Ranger through NF.
SumXone
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You must have missed the "I'm bored" thread. Or the dozens and dozens of A.I. threads where half the people complained that they no longer had fun because GW was too easy because of the A.I. while the other half said it was too hard. But the point is that yes, people find it too easy. And I agree that PVE is definately easy.
DoA certainly isnt easy though. But that's what Elite missions are for arent they? My only complaint is that they stuck the ritualist hero in this mission. |
i could have thought of something better, and i don't even make my living designing games.
i mean come on, at least make it visually apealling! it looks plain ugly down there. why is it that only the easy areas look good in GW and the harder it gets, the uglier the landscape gets? why? why should the places we spend the most time in look so crappy?
anet get some new designers pls.
Digital Bath
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Originally Posted by SumXone
question:
WHO is whining about gw being too easy? where the heck are all those masses? it's only in your head bro, most people do not think gw is too easy. IF you want a more challenging game experience, then try to beat gw without skills or without armor. there are ALWAYS ways to make this game more challenging for yourself. maybe don't use 8 ppl to clear fow, use 4. and voila, there is your challenge. but don't pretend gw is too easy. |
As for your asinine idea of removing your armor and doing all that to make the game harder, that would make the game impossible. How bout you try doing that first and let all of us know how it goes? Removing armor and skills is not making a game more challenging it's just not being smart. It would be like Fencing without armor or a weapon. Sure, it makes it more challenging but it also isn't the most brilliant of ideas in the world.