Hard mode?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Reading the titles menu.

You will earn Protector of Elona once you complete both primary and secondary objectives of all 20 missions on teh continent of Elona. And the title Guardian of Elona when you complete them again on Hard Mode.

Only seems to have been updated on characters who don't already have the Protector title for the continent, also the same for Tyria and Cantha.


It just seems this change isn't listed on Guild Wars' homepage.

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Wait, what?

I wonder how 'hard' the mission will be compared to the original.

wingzro

wingzro

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada

Level 60 bosses doing quadruple damage?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by -.-
Wait, what?

I wonder how 'hard' the mission will be compared to the original.
My bets are on either more damage or more enemies (or both?). If it does include more damage... things are going to get extremely when it comes to Ele bosses doing 1000 damage per spell.

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

You're right - I checked on different characters who are at different stages of the title tracks. Seems if you have Protector already for any of the continents, you do not get the "guardian/hard mode" message for that continent on that character.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
My bets are on either more damage or more enemies (or both?). If it does include more damage... things are going to get extremely when it comes to Ele bosses doing 1000 damage per spell.
And how is it going to be possible to kill a boss that is doing 1000dmg PER second? The party will be wiped out before it can even attack. gg

pixiLated

pixiLated

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Resident Gutter Dweller

Shards of the Silver Moon [MooN]

E/

The other thing is, how on earth is "hard mode" accessed??

brokenmonkey

brokenmonkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[UC] Uber Crue

W/

Ok.. serious.. we need to straighten some things out.

New Guardian Title- It is not yet obtainable by anyone. (People who had 20/20 before this, and people who get it now.) It has not yet been implemented. I know this because before todays new title I had 18/20 Elona completed, and after the update, I did the last 2, and theres no option for Hard mission, or a new title.


(This is after I got title, after the update.)

Elite Skill hunter Title- Yes, a few more people will get this, and then all 3 and then maybe even get KoaBD, BUT do you not think Anet will add another one after that, for 15? or 20 titles max? (Since there staying towards Anchor Man, I would suggest the title to be "My Guildhall smells of Rich Mohagany.") Lol!

So re-cap, I covered the Elite skills titles, and the new titles.. oh yea, People seriously, you are overreacting.

Brokenmonkey.


Gailes Input..."I don't know, not for a while, but not too long, either. I will check on that and hope to have a more defined answer this week.

It will be cool, folks. It will be optional. Nobody's titles will be devalued, not at all. And no one--no one!--is being forced to participate!"
I justwanted to keep my post all together and organized.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

"Hard Mode" better not be a fancy way of saying "time-based hard achievement". Time-based masters/bonuses are the worst thing to happen to PvE missions. All they encourage is a high damage party over any sort of finesse play style.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen Christie
And how is it going to be possible to kill a boss that is doing 1000dmg PER second? The party will be wiped out before it can even attack. gg
Prot Spirit/Shelter, Dazed, interrupts, Life Bond/Barrier, "They're on Fire!",KDs come to mind, but that's just off the top of my head. And he said 1,000 per spell, not per second; HUGE difference.

pixiLated

pixiLated

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Resident Gutter Dweller

Shards of the Silver Moon [MooN]

E/

1000 per spell/per second, - it's still a rather large "OWWWWWWWWWW"

Other thing is; would this "new" title see the return of the pug or kill it entirely??

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiLated
1000 per spell/per second, - it's still a rather large "OWWWWWWWWWW"

Other thing is; would this "new" title see the return of the pug or kill it entirely??
Backfire, mistrust, guilt, daze, KD, migraine, panic, power block, spellbreaker, obs flesh, and THE LIST GOES ON.

I'm almost thinking that a 55, or even just a Me/Mo would solo such a boss in seconds.

The tombs shadowform assassin could probably solo it in one or two rounds.

Beqxter

Beqxter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Berkeley, CA

Piccy:

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
OMG! Anet did something right?
Technically no, lol.

They haven't listed it in the updates section of the Homepage and it hasn't been implemented properly (existing protectors don't see any change), it also seems to be incomplete as there is no way of actually doing Hard Mode.

Basically... Anet buggered something up.

While i'm liking the idea of impending Hard Mode on missions... it's likely that they'll put absolutely no thought it in at all. Like decreasing time limits to achieve a masters or something stupid that will achieve nothing but pissing people off.

If it does include damage boosts (or environment effects maybe?) then the chances are things are gonna start becoming cookie cutter again. Dasha Vestibule is almost impossible without a Broadhead Arrow ranger or a Power Block mesmer. If it misses, chances are the boss would wipe your party in 1 second rather than the 3 seconds it achieved the first time i did the mission...

The one Casey Squid

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Northeast

Knights Of Thulcandra [KoT]

W/E

Dude I feel your pain! I thought that searing flames actually had to have you on fire first to do damage. Whatshisface let one of those fly and wipped everyone but us tanks -_-

kitsune23

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Green Bay

Slightly Inebriated

Seems like the title change is a preview of things to come. Excellent!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
...then the chances are things are gonna start becoming cookie cutter again. Dasha Vestibule is almost impossible without a Broadhead Arrow ranger or a Power Block mesmer.
I'm not sure I see what's wrong with either of those options being favored for that mission. There's nothing wrong with needing to adapt to the challenge at hand.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

So like hoe does this work. Do we get an option if we want to do the hard mode thingy or not? What if you wanna help your friend on a mission and the hard mode thing happens lol.

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The one Casey Squid
Dude I feel your pain! I thought that searing flames actually had to have you on fire first to do damage. Whatshisface let one of those fly and wipped everyone but us tanks -_-
wrong thread? or am i missing something?

Arwen Shiningstar

Arwen Shiningstar

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Mo/

What a pathetic attempt to get people to play the same old boring game over again. Oh and thanks for making all my protector titles that I worked so hard on pointless! Lets see protector titles on all my chars 100 of hours playing to achieve this flushed!

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Wait, so does this mean that we have to beat it in hard mode for it to count towards Kind of a big deal title?

Arwen Shiningstar

Arwen Shiningstar

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Mo/

My protector titles seem to still count (all the ones I have maxed) but that is not right i dont think. If it does OMG I will have no point to play on

Pan Head

Pan Head

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/R

Why cant you go back and get it in hard mode even if you already have it? That is not fair.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Yes, what you see is the precursor of something that we are working on for the future. We'll have more to say about this in a while.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kitsune23
I'm not sure I see what's wrong with either of those options being favored for that mission. There's nothing wrong with needing to adapt to the challenge at hand.
Have you ever missed with them? Adapting to the challenge at hand isn't a problem. I don't mind having to use a BHA ranger/Power Block mesmer, its excellent Ruby Djinn shutdown. The problem is what happens if either skill misses. You spend your time doing the mission and because 1 skill misses there is a VERY high chance your going to fail.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I for one dont like it one bit.....I have a few characters that are 1 or 2 missions away from the protector title....now they will have to go back and REDO ALL of the missions for that continent to get the title, while those that arlready have it dont...... .....

seems if this be the case, none of my characters will get the 'new' title....so the who givesaflyingratsbehind will now come into play on this title......aka it wasnt of much use before and I wont redo those missions just to get it when I had already done all but one ......

<sarcasm> good job anet.

LagunaCid

LagunaCid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

BHL

R/

Oh no, you will have put in more effort to get KoAB. I SENSE THE APOCALYPSE

Arwen Shiningstar

Arwen Shiningstar

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
I for one dont like it one bit.....I have a few characters that are 1 or 2 missions away from the protector title....now they will have to go back and REDO ALL of the missions for that continent to get the title, while those that arlready have it dont...... .....

seems if this be the case, none of my characters will get the 'new' title....so the who givesaflyingratsbehind will now come into play on this title......aka it wasnt of much use before and I wont redo those missions just to get it when I had already done all but one ......

<sarcasm> good job anet.
I feel your pain! they cant be serious!

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Because it was such a pain getting Protector titles...

Nkah Sennyt

Nkah Sennyt

Awaken from hiatus.

Join Date: Apr 2006

Riding the spiral.

No Fun Allowed [Vdya]

If I have to do Moddok Crevice one more time, I swear to god...

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by kitsune23
I'm not sure I see what's wrong with either of those options being favored for that mission. There's nothing wrong with needing to adapt to the challenge at hand.
Eh, me and another half-decent monk got everyone through that without any interrupts. Yes I know, decent monks in a PvE PuG are a rare thing...

Celestial_Kitsune

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

When you obtain Guardian of Elona, you will have access to the new Elite Mission, Battle of Jahai 2: Return of the King. The main objective of this mission is to defeat Palawa Joko with some help from Turai Ossa

darktyco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ah, hard mode will be awesome! The Nightfall Protector title was too easy to get, perhaps the Guardian title will be a real challenge.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Only seems to have been updated on characters who don't already have the Protector title for the continent, also the same for Tyria and Cantha.
That sucks! FIX THIS!

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

Hmmmm..Hardmode. Same missions + Environmental effects?

kitsune23

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Green Bay

Slightly Inebriated

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Have you ever missed with them? Adapting to the challenge at hand isn't a problem. I don't mind having to use a BHA ranger/Power Block mesmer, its excellent Ruby Djinn shutdown. The problem is what happens if either skill misses. You spend your time doing the mission and because 1 skill misses there is a VERY high chance your going to fail.
I certainly have missed. After 10 characters through the game, I think those were the more memorable trips through that mission. Oh, except for my mesmer when we hit it with psychic instability first. That was just funny.


Quote:
Yes, what you see is the precursor of something that we are working on for the future. We'll have more to say about this in a while.
Thanks for replying to this Gaile. Looking forward to seeing this implemented in the game, hoping the wait isn't too long.

Ichigo724

Ichigo724

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

antwerp, belgium

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Res Ipsi
Hmmmm..Hardmode. Same missions + Environmental effects?
If so, I can't wait to see everyone running mending to counter hp degen effects. :P

kyro27

kyro27

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

plattsburgh

we are all pretty [ugly]

wow chill out you crazy pvers :-p

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Good ... at least this title is now worth having, when is this going to be implemented?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yeah, nobody even knows what this is and people are already freaking out.

Relax.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well blow me down, might'n this be a reason to PvE again?

Arr, I'll be a drinkin' to that'n, me hearties!