"Fresh Guild Wars announced" From the Inquirer!

GenobeeX

GenobeeX

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Join Date: May 2006

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Well..seeing as Anet has realeased a New Asura Mini pet and Asurians beings a playable class in GW2 i assume this article is not a hoax. However Asurians are freaken ugly and cartoonish as ever, Im sure im never making one of them. Charr Playables ftw!

The Great Al

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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something that concerns me is that the way the Asura is dressed, assuming that this is something from chapter 4, is not really representative of something to be found in a wintry area. Maybe then either the title is wrong, or the "North" doesn't necessarily mean that it is going to be a snowy game?

Redfeather1975

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It's dressed like a native american villager.
Maybe it's north of Istani.

The Great Al

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if this is going to be the last chapter of GW1 i will be incredibly disappointed if it is anything but a snowy environment...i know that's probably being selfish, but chapter 3 was very dull at times, chapter 2 goes without saying, and...judging by how grenth's footprint and the surrounding area was done, i think a wintry game would be amazing.

Coridan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HalPlantagenet
In one his essays, J. R. R. Tolkien discusses the importance and value of treating Fantasy with high seriousness, (which does not preclude humour by the way). Peter Jackson understood the same thing in his development of "The Lord of the Rings" films. I perceived the same thing in Arenanet's first three chapters.

The gods preserve us from "Super Mario Crosses the Shiverpeaks."

100% agreement

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

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Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

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Wait, has anyone noticed the background is a dungeon? ALSO, the warrior is wearing Nightfall armor, meaning the next chapter might not take place directly above Tyria afterall. Maybe to the north east of elona, placing it west of Ascalon. But then how would you boat travel to it?

dargon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GenobeeX
Well..seeing as Anet has realeased a New Asura Mini pet and Asurians beings a playable class in GW2 i assume this article is not a hoax. However Asurians are freaken ugly and cartoonish as ever, Im sure im never making one of them. Charr Playables ftw!
If it's a minipet, it's almost assuredly NOT a playable race. IMO, thats one of the misleading things Gaile mentioned. New game races, doesn't mean they are 'playable' races, or have you seen any tengu or centaur players around?

dargon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Wait, has anyone noticed the background is a dungeon? ALSO, the warrior is wearing Nightfall armor, meaning the next chapter might not take place directly above Tyria afterall. Maybe to the north east of elona, placing it west of Ascalon. But then how would you boat travel to it?
Somehow I doubt the choice of armor of the player in the screenshot has any bearing on the location of the new addition. Players, alpha and beta testers included get to pick and choose what they wear and letting them wear new armor from the new expansion would probably give away even more than ANet wants to at this point, as ANets armors have always had some relation to the cultural themes in the additions. We don't even know for certain if the name given is correct.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Wait, has anyone noticed the background is a dungeon? ALSO, the warrior is wearing Nightfall armor, meaning the next chapter might not take place directly above Tyria afterall. Maybe to the north east of elona, placing it west of Ascalon. But then how would you boat travel to it?
I said this in the pet thread and I'll say it again here, the background and character model are insignificant. The background looks like reused concept art from sorrow's furnace(I don't feel like thumbing through my artbook to check..), not that that's a bad thing. And the warrior is just a random character model they stuck in for size reference, his presence doesn't mean it will have anything to do with Elona. I'm not saying any of that is bad, but don't try to assume connections with the fourth campaign when most likely they have no such deeper significance.

Omega X

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GenobeeX
Well..seeing as Anet has realeased a New Asura Mini pet and Asurians beings a playable class in GW2 i assume this article is not a hoax.
My guess would be that confirming any part of the information out right would invalidate the exclusivity of the info going into the Magazines. Though I don't know about them being a playable race.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
I said this in the pet thread and I'll say it again here, the background and character model are insignificant. The background looks like reused concept art from sorrow's furnace(I don't feel like thumbing through my artbook to check..), not that that's a bad thing. And the warrior is just a random character model they stuck in for size reference, his presence doesn't mean it will have anything to do with Elona. I'm not saying any of that is bad, but don't try to assume connections with the fourth campaign when most likely they have no such deeper significance.
What IS significant, however, is what the minipet is wearing...and if it correlates to CH4 instead of GW2, I am worried...it has a native American sort of feel to it, and although I admittedly don't know much about the native Americans, I can't picture a native-American based environment to be any better or more exciting than the chapter 3 environment (I understand it wouldn't be desert, but still probably for the most part dull)

Redfeather1975

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The environment could be as varied as Prophecies.
Giant snowy peaks, huge plains, deserts, swamp, rolling hills, ect.

Omega X

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
The environment could be as varied as Prophecies.
Giant snowy peaks, huge plains, deserts, swamp, rolling hills, ect.
That's true, the art team is known for recycling environment textures and models over and over.

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

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Isn't that what all art teams do? not just Anet.

PS: Lets aim for a 1000 posts here people, keep it going with the "positive" inputs.

Omega X

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord-UWR
Isn't that what all art teams do? not just Anet.

PS: Lets aim for a 1000 posts here people, keep it going with the "positive" inputs.
Hell, when you start to see the same plant all through 3 chapters of space then you start to wonder where the original work for a zone went.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
Hell, when you start to see the same plant all through 3 chapters of space then you start to wonder where the original work for a zone went.
Show me a game where they don't recycle plants, trees, anything that's abundant in an environment. And then show me a game where it doesnt lag to hell if they've managed to create completely different individual plants in a vast forest.

The Great Al

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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FYI, eyeofthenorth.de is also a registered website, but you need some sort of login information

EternalTempest

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United States

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From someone who's read the "the Inquirer" for tech non-gaming news. They do have a bad habit of firing stories along lines of what gale indicated, some truth, some misinformation, and other stuff just plain wrong.

If you look at tech forums and the topic of the Inquirier comes up... don't be holding your breath, you will be turning blue. There right on once in a blue moon with "exclusive" info like this.

Now the mini-pet is cool and I suspect a quick taste of chapter 4.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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ok well the secret of the presear bunny is out now

ill tell you all the next thing he said



Across the water of the coast of the tower you will find your new journey. From the mouth of a dragon to its gullet you will go from the places of knowledge and laws.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

w. t. F! are you talking about with this "presear bunny" thing?
I admit I haven't been in presear for over a year, but really... Want to explain your rambling to us poor, out-of-the-loop people?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
w. t. F! are you talking about with this "presear bunny" thing?
I admit I haven't been in presear for over a year, but really... Want to explain your rambling to us poor, out-of-the-loop people?
He forgot to take his medication, that's all.

Knightsaber Sith

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Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
ok well the secret of the presear bunny is out now

ill tell you all the next thing he said



Across the water of the coast of the tower you will find your new journey. From the mouth of a dragon to its gullet you will go from the places of knowledge and laws.
Well Dragon's Gullet is a zone in the Ascalon region, and might the first part of that refer to that floating castle thing you can see from that tower over in Kryta....

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Rhedd, I think he's on crack. That bunny doesn't say anything.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
w. t. F! are you talking about with this "presear bunny" thing?
I admit I haven't been in presear for over a year, but really... Want to explain your rambling to us poor, out-of-the-loop people?
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rabbit

heres the presear bunny

but it is funny hes been right about things for not saying stuff.

Redfeather1975

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Ooops. I got ninja'd because I take super long.

Kotetsu Rain

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Utopia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by erk
Yep, it's called viral marketing. It's to build up speculation, discussion, and general interest in the future product. NCSOFT developers/staff/contractors would be under tight non-disclosure agreements regarding future product releases, and could easily be prosecuted if the "leak" was not sanctioned.
Or it could be WOM marketing. (word-of-mouth)

Word of mouth (WOM) , aka Word of Mouth Marketing (WOMM), is a formalized marketing effort designed to stimulate the passing of information by verbal means, especially recommendations, but also general information, in an informal, person-to-person manner, rather than by mass media, advertising, organized publication, or traditional marketing. Word of mouth is typically considered a face-to-face spoken communication, although phone conversations, text messages sent via SMS and web dialogue, such as online profile pages, blog posts, message board threads, instant messages and emails are often now included in the definition of word of mouth. There is some overlap in meaning between word of mouth and the following: rumour, gossip, innuendo, and hearsay; however the negative connotations of these words are not included in the meaning of word of mouth.

I copy/pasted the decription from wikipedia.org. (full article here ----> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_mouth) If they really did pull a WoM marketing move then it's safe to say that some of the information on the site is true (just as Gaile mentioned somewhere in these 600 + posts) but they could of also combined it with viral marketing to but in the false and misleading information.

Roderick Bravehart

Roderick Bravehart

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Trying to play Crysis on GLaDOS' mainframe.

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GW2? GW:EN? What?

I'm about to go jump off the Space Needle now. I hope for all that is bright and fluffy that those rumors of GW2 being non-backwards-compatibibbly with GW1 are False. I really really hope that article is wrong. God helf us if it isn't

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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eeeks 38 pages and this only started yesterday......
well my monk yuki will be happy with snow.
my rits will be unhappy.
hope they make some nice armor.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Reading the original article again, I'm struck anew by the really poor grammar and grasp of the English language displayed by the author. It's quite strange.

Much of what the author claims seems to go against the direction Anet has been steering this game towards for the last two years.
Quote:
Eye of the North brings a conclusion what happened in Tyria after Guild Wars: Prophecies ended
IMO, this is the true part, and nearly all the rest, if not all of it is false. Gaile said that some of the story is true, but she never said just how much. It could be just a snippet.

I will wait and see, since I have no choice, but my gut says that the story is 99% bull.

FeuerFrei

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actually...i just realized that GW2 could very well be true. If any of youve watched the making of GW.NF, towards the end, the staff of ArenaNet say that its only the beginning and that theyve barely scratched the surface. IMO, theyre really planning to make a revolutionary game in the future and that my friends could be GW2

Rhedd

Rhedd

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Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rabbit

heres the presear bunny

but it is funny hes been right about things for not saying stuff.
I'm perfectly aware of the existence of that bunny.

The part about him talking, however... Well, I'm going to agree with arcanemacabre and Fem T; go take your meds, manitoba. ^_^

INFPGeek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Pennsylvania

Well, I am a little skeptical of the story, but it does make sense. Trying to keep up with campaign 4 rumors, I saw a press release from NCSoft that mentioned "...a new major update to the Guild Wars franchise in the latter half of 2007." (Source: Press release: NCsoft records KRW 338.7 billion in sales in 2006) It is interesting that they call it a "Major Update" and not a "New Chapter" or "New Campaign." Maybe GW:EN is that update. Although, I would really doubt that they won't realease ANYTHING else until GW2. Perhaps not another full campaign, but at least another Expansion pack; if for no other reason than for the continued stream of revenue (no new product = no new money to make GW2 with).

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
I'm perfectly aware of the existence of that bunny.

The part about him talking, however... Well, I'm going to agree with arcanemacabre and Fem T; go take your meds, manitoba. ^_^

i second that......

What in the world are you talking about......at first i thought the rabbit might have some text above his head ever now and then......but man......if not......take pills now.........

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by INFPGeek
It is interesting that they call it a "Major Update" and not a "New Chapter" or "New Campaign." Maybe GW:EN is that update.).
do you consider the announced voice chat being added this fall could qualify as the *major update* since no mention was made about chapter 4 at all in the financial release?

Kotetsu Rain

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(I just can't get over the fact that Gaile refuses to say what's false/misleading or true.)

What about this possible floating mountain in the middle of the ocean between Istan and Tyria? Is there anyway that this REALLY has to deal with Chapter 4 and the whole snowy place north of tyria thing is really a ginat distraction?

Pic ---> http://www.semyazas.de/senti/gw263.jpg

Offical thread here -------> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10113156

P.S. If I"m going off topic since this situation already has it's own thread please guiltlessly delete this post.

Knightsaber Sith

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kotetsu Rain
(I just can't get over the fact that Gaile refuses to say what's false/misleading or true.)

What about this possible floating mountain in the middle of the ocean between Istan and Tyria? Is there anyway that this REALLY has to deal with Chapter 4 and the whole snowy place north of tyria thing is really a ginat distraction?

Pic ---> http://www.semyazas.de/senti/gw263.jpg

Offical thread here -------> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10113156
There's absolutely no reason to believe that has anything to do with the next campaign. There's also the floating castle in Tyria

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Kessex_Peak
but that likely is unrelated as well.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kotetsu Rain
(I just can't get over the fact that Gaile refuses to say what's false/misleading or true.)
thats her job, she can't talk about things untill the company says its ok. Just about anyone in the games industry has to do the same, can't talk about their games unless the company gives the ok.

Panacea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

So here's my take on the article, and the minipet.
Okay. GW - Eye of the North. If it's another expansion, I'm not sure on that name. Mainly because, well... Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall, Eye of the North. That last one just doesn't fit in very well. My take is that it's another Sorrow's Furnace type place, but with more substance to it than the Furnace was. Not that the Furnace wasn't awesome, but still. Larger.

18 multi-level dungeons. Multi level? WTF? Can someone explain this for me?
10 new heroes - one per class. Makes sense to me.
40 new armors - 4 per class. Again, makes sense, although seems a bit much.
150 skills. That's 15 skills per class. Uhm... bit small... But I guess they can do this, if they're planning on charging less. Which I don't see why they would, with 18 new 'multi-level' dungeons! ... Does Guild Wars even have dungeons?
50 skills for PvE. Seems like a bit much, that's a third of the skills... Oh. Five per class. Huhm. Possible. I'm not sure how much I like the idea of dividing PvE and PvP even further, but some PvE only skills might - MIGHT - be nice.

Guild Wars 2 - The Search for More Money.
Huh. Hundreds of years. I hope that the ending in Eye of the North has, you know... A huge 'world-go-boom' effect. I can understand why they'd do it many years later - redesign everything, blame it on the world changing. I'd kind of look forward to this.
Zone-wide events: Snazzy? Might be fun to have large-scale PvP with a smaller squad system. Oh. Wait. We have that already...
Multiple races - from ANet's history, I think it's more probable that we'll see a few new races, but no more playable than humans. But I wouldn't rule it out - it just might be a bitch and a half to set up.

Now comes my worries - the 'huge area-battles' - does that mean that instancing is going to be gone? I like the idea of the small groups roaming in the PvE countryside. If they get rid of that, I'll ... I'll cry, damnit! Although I will look forward with baited breath to seeing any new combat system ANet can dream up! (C'mon, melee staves!)

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

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If Gaile told us what was false in the article, she would also be telling us what is true...and GW probably has some sort of agreement with PCGamer to let them give us the exclusive info first, which is why she can't tell us.

Zonzai

Zonzai

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Join Date: Feb 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
p. T. Barnum Was Right
There's a sucker born every minute.

I would gamble that there is a small amount of truth to what has been said. But whoever wrote the article doesn't know that much about the game.