"Fresh Guild Wars announced" From the Inquirer!

That'd be pretty cool. You choose your race, then your primary, then your secondary and later on can change your primary and/or secondary for some variety.
Right now if someone hates the way a profession looks, but likes their primary attribute and primary skills it's just the same situation as deciding on picking a race that they may not like the look of, just for any abilities they may have.

Now THAT is JUST SICK AND WRONG.

Variable primary and secondary could be interesting. I guess in that situation, armor skins would correspond to race and not primary anymore. But would they go the insignia route or reuse the armor system like factions O.o?

True, I didn't think about armors. Well, since we're talking GW2, it could be a different system entirely. I could see armor sets specific to the primary class, but have freely changeable insignia/rune-like stats, depending on your build, etc. So having to buy new armors for each of your primary class changes could be the aspect that discourages frequent primary switching.

I thought of this yesterday, dont know if it has been brought up yet though.

With Gail saying that some of this report is true, some false, and some misleading it lead me to think about what she ment by "misleading" My theory is that the "GW2" is the misleading part.

My theory is that the next installment will in fact be a "expansion" rather then a stand-alone chapter. Think of this as the Epilog to the Appadon story. Following that would be the first chaper of a new story. You COULD think of this as GW2, and maybe it was miscommunicated to this reporter as such, but in reality it would be Ch4, the first of a second trilogy. It would use the same database, same servers, and same client as the previous chapters.

If this is true, the GW story progression would seem to be Ch1-Ch2-Ch3-Epilog1-Ch4-Ch5-Ch6-Epilog2....ect, untill they end it all.

I also draw this theory based on other statements made by Gail and other devs about "future chapters". I would not think they would have put it this way if Nighfall was intended to be the last GW1 Chapter.

Agian, this all just theory, PC Gamer should give us more insight into what is going on.

This is a pretty good guess. It makes more sense than the GW2 theory and accounts for an easily misunderstood reference. Got my fingers crossed this is the deal.

I'm actually happy the next installment is an expansion pack. Now the energy they would have spent on newbie/ascention quests and teaching new players the ropes in the next game could be spent on leveled content.

I hope you're right... because I think that's a GREAT idea! It kind of reminds me of Magic the Gathering, where card sets come out in blocks of three sets and then they change it up... with other sets in between.

In any event... I'm really looking forward to PC Gamer and what it has in store!

I don't know if this was their intention, but it caused me to buy an entire subscription to PC Gamer!!! I still have to buy the May edition because my first issue will more than likely be the month after (supposedly they ship March 13th or March 15th to subscribers).

I think what is more likely misleading is that the new races it listed won't necessarily be playable races. GW2 will obviously have to come some day and I'd say it's entirely plausible that it'll come out after the next campaign rather than running the set of games for the next storyline on the current game engine.

I can see ANet doing a similar thing with Guild Wars as Blizzard did with its Starcraft and Warcraft RTS when it came to expansions. You could still play the old game after purchasing the expansion, but all of the gameplay mechanics introduced in the expansion did not carry BACKWARDS.

It would make sense for me to have a GW2 that created additional game mechanics that would not be compatible with GW1. Characters from GW1 could go to GW2, but not all GW2 characters could return to GW1.

All speculation of course, but this seems the most logical solution to me. Enjoy laughing at me Gaile and Alex

no i agree with you, that is al logical solution.. but is realizable?

Gazing at the article again and talking with my friends ingame we've notied some things that may or not of been mentioned somewhere in these 800 + posts...

1) When they say multi-level dungeouns it's pretty..out there. I Mean Anet has NEVER used the word Dungeoun for ANYTHING. Also the article also says NEW multi-level dungeouns as in it's already been around long enough to be considered old.

2) The way they spell armor... Anet's always used the way they spell it as armor and not armour. this CLEARLY shows that it wasn't copied and pasted from a viable source from Anet.

Seems that the quite a bit is certaintly QUITE a bit...

It's entirely plausible that someone that has never played GW before could refer to a mission as a dungeon. And I believe a few people mentioned that the Inquirer is British which is why armor would be spelled that way. It way never claimed to be "copied and pasted" from a source from Anet, they said it was an article summarizing a verbal announcement at a conference.

Well took me a while to read most of that (5 hours). Its amazing how the same things keep poping up.

I can understand that people would like to take thier chars over to (the alleged) GW2. You grow attached to them. If the sequal ever came out and you could transfer your chars over you should be able to "remake" them. Change them to other races ect. (but staying with gender).

It'd be interesting to see a female charr.. lol still can't wait for the offical information on the next chapter from pc gamer and GW.com

I just read through all 41 pages, I feel nauseous now. My eyes hurt.

Beforehand, I wasn't all that bothered about wanting to hear the latest info, but now I'm going crazy watching the seconds pass to the magazine article being available, and have 14 windows open on various threads and am constantly refreshing them all.

Dungeon could have been a quirky description by a a-net staff member that doesn't write the actual release info. Or a misinterpretation by the site.

As for the character transfer debate, I love starting fresh. Starting from the beginning, thinking about what's ahead, that's the best part for me.

Now for Heaven's sake, keep posting. I fear I might have to sleep, wake up at a decent time and do some work otherwise.

In my opinion according to the artical this what I thought Anet would end up doing in the first place. As for the transfer of characters I don't know I think it would be kinda cool to start over again in a new game with millions of new players. In a way its kind of like well now that everyone I know hates Guild Wars mabye theyll like... Guild Wars 2 a whole new game. As for lack of updates in between, I don't see this as a problem because Anet is working on tournament system for gvg HA updates Hero battles as well. As for the automated tournaments btw I think its something they want so they have more time to work on GW2?

It's complete bull. Why mess with Guild Wars when the fan base is expanding and the graphics are ALREADY years ahead of its time. It's crap. The screenshot looked like an disgarded pic from Borlis Pass.

hm, the only thing I find for sure is that there is not going to be anything coming out in april.....since we have no news other than heresay....this does make me happy as I have only finished nf with 1 character and have 9 total to get thru it------I can take a more leisurely pace now. thanks!

Why doesn't everybody just wait till next week when PC Gamer comes out before jumping to all these conclusions about ch4 and GW2? Gaile said that the Inquirer article was only partly true and mostly misleading. If everyone can just be patient for a few days we should know for sure about what ANet plans to do and there won't be any confusion about any of this.

You can never convince people to stop speculating. You may as well go yell at a brick wall.

LOL, even a brick wall would melt if it was yelled at this much. Some people here are made of Hard Granite Stone.

Anticipation is half of the fun. (don't know if this is an English proverb, but it applies very well to this thread).

I'd go with "Sometimes the wanting is more pleasing than the having"

I disagree. There have been a few cases where Gail has hinted that they were looking into adding playable races. Phrases like "We have not made any announcement on playable races" says to me they are planning it but don't want to talk about it yet.

And why is it that so many people are assuming a GW2 is inevitable? Is it graphics advancements? balance issues? what? Granted, it is inevitable that the graphics will need to improve at some point, but why would that reqire a new client?

The Inquirer article is bunk on so many levels.

First, since all the the Chapters are stand-alone games anyway, why a "GW2"? Even if there was a technology jump with some future GW release, it'll probably be compatible with what has come before in some way (i.e., GvG, PvP, characters might even be able to make the cross over at some loss of function... who knows).

Second, announcing a new game 2 years away is simply NOT Anet's style. Their M.O. has been to announce and deliver. These guys (and gals) are a well-oiled machine with no aspirations to become the Kings of Empty Promises. Last time I checked, no one on their staff is named Peter Molyneux.

Third, while a new Chapter (not expansion) binding the three previous Chapters together in a more cohesive way would be a great thing, I think this is thinking small. That's someone who plays WoW way, way, WAY too much talking. Just look at all the tweaking that's going on in the Arenas, all the quest enhancements, festivals... all this and no monthly fees. No, we gotta start thinking outside the box on this one.

There's a grand plan and we don't have the right info yet. The article is bull.

Wow, harsh words for one of the greatest game designers of all time. Where would the world be without RTS games?

note the following truism.

if you fire a shotgun in the general direction of the target blindly some of the pellets will probably hit .

Gaile says *some is true some is false QUITE A BIT is misleading*

he pushes all the buttons and some hit by chance

NOTE ALSO

if NCsoft/Arenanet had a major announcement to make it would not go to that site.

NOTE ALSO that the announcement was considered important enough to report on by only one of the people who heard said announcement

i call bs on the report but as Gaile said there is some part of truth in it

I am one of those people that skimmed through the 42 pages of panic, speculation and paranoia chuckling at all the emotion this thread created. Yeah, I enjoy playing GW and am looking forward to seeing the PCGamer article. Not really sure if the "sky is falling" just yet.

Patience is a virtue.

I will now go back to lurking ...

I hope they change the base map design. Guild Wars uses a 2d mesh and adds objects on top it to give it more "volume", but the end result is pretty ugly and the maps would all look the same, with the textures removed. Curiously enough, World of Warcraft uses the same map design. If the map design can't support a simple bluff or outcropping, I think it needs to be chucked.

This all seems plausible. Why? VANGUARD/LOTR/STARTREK/FIREFLY, etc.., are going to take a lot of the audience, simply by being new, SOOOOOOOOOO GW could be thinking.. "Oh .... we need to keep our audience".

Me personally, if the "new" gw has a pvp section that will slowly ruin pve.. I'm not interested and will pass. IF it has one that runs separately, and one does not affect the other, then I'm in. Simply put I'm about finished with all 3 chapters and getting bored with the genre as is.

Don't know what to think about the Inquirer article to be very honest. Just try to keep some stuff in mind.


Factions doesn't really fit in to the story. So the chances of returning there is unlikely. Unlike Prophecies which left several problems unresolved and Nightfall which has Menzies and Dhuum still causing trouble. Factions completed itself. It seems that most of the story from Prophecies and Nightfall revolve around Abaddon and the 5 Gods leaving the world.

Then there is the matter of Gwen. Gwen is evidently not dead. The quest items especially the Tapestry Shard point to something more with that character. Plus there are signs that Gwen traveled beyond Ascalon. The little girls cape found out side Fisherman's Haven. Gwen's Broken Flute and the Preserved Iris flower which is in Nightfall.

Also look at your Char. Nothing is really know about them. Other than they worship the titans. Which were created by the Margonites.

So as for the next expansion dealing with the conclusion of those problems storywise and even being focused at level 20 and above makes sense.

As to the inquirer's article. I am not aware of any multilevel dungeon being located in Guildwars at all. Possible exceptions being the elite missions. Plus they didn't mention 2 new classes.

So that means

5 new armor sets for each class

18.75 Skills per class. Which doesn't flush out right. With 50 of those being PVE only means a lot of story based progression. And the Skill Hunter Title track still not being abled to be completed.

I think they have the name right. And the concept right. But the numbers are way off. As for Guildwars 2, with the release of Vista and DX10 hardware. I can see a major update to the graphics engine in about 2 years. Since by then the technology will be common place and DX 11 should be out. So why even bother announcing GW 2?

Something that people seem to forget about GW though. Is it is free online play. Which means Arenanet must sell copies of expansions or game related material in order to generate revenue. So it would make no sense for them to stop making updates to the game. Also Gaile mentioned something about an improved Pet System.

But that is my speculation.

Oh yea and as to the races bit. Since the PVP side is all about balance not a likely addition. There have not been any other race besides Centaurs, Char, Margonites, Forgotten and Dwarves in GW to this point. Oh yea and the Naga. Adding new races makes no sense what so ever. Not only that is has no basis with in the current Guildwars Lore.

Wrong. The Charr did worship the Titans, but the Titans were NOT created by the Margonites. The Margonites were trying to keep the Titan's locked up, presumably so they could enslave humanity instead of the Titans. The Titans serve Aboddon. Who "created" them is unknown.

Yeah I agree... the closest thing to a "dungeon" I've found in Guild Wars is that area below the monastery in Presearing... and it's more like a cave than anything.

You're confusing the Mursaat and the Marogonites... Margonites are just minions of Abaddon like the Titans.

"Factions completed itself."

Well I won't give spoilers but some things appear in NF

Ha, I knew it. Finally it pans out that certian things never work out the way you expect it to.

/dunceCap

Your right, I was. Regardless, the Marg's did not create the Titans either. They are just two groups who both serve Abaddon