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EternalTempest

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12 Mar 2007 at 16:39 - 881

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Originally Posted by Barek_NO

They also trademarked the term "Guild Wars 2" (Go to http://www.uspto.gov/main/search.html then select the link for "Trademarks", then select "New User Form Search (Basic)", then enter search term "Guild Wars").

That could be done so know one else uses it or are future planning they may not be near doing at the time.

Barek_NO

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12 Mar 2007 at 16:55 - 882

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

That could be done so know one else uses it or are future planning they may not be near doing at the time.

Very true. The "Eye of the North" name is more likely as it's both a registered URL and a trademarked term.

For Guild Wars 2, the term is now trademarked; but the URLs have been held for a while externally to NCsoft, and currently point to a page on guildwarsonline, which - oddly - appears to be an advertisement to buy gold (although I can't follow the links from here to confirm). So, the trademarks could just be a first step in protecting the name and not necesarilly related to future plans.

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12 Mar 2007 at 17:16 - 883

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Originally Posted by Nafergo

If GW:EN is true maybe the Tapestry Shred is going to be useful after all

let's start all over again, cya all in pre-searing and I can sell a tapestry shred for 100k +10 ectos

Haha only if that were true. I mean unless anet makes it unatainable then your gonna be holding on to them for awhile.

Kotetsu Rain

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12 Mar 2007 at 17:26 - 884

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Originally Posted by Barek_NO

FYI: NCSoft has now trademarked the name "Guild Wars: Eye of the North". See http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:Ca...Four#Trademark (I didn't see it posted above - appologies if this had already been noted).

Oh s*** son... *hears a bunch of people kicking themselves for saying that Eye of the North" doesn't fit with the 1 name title. (Nightfall, Factions, Prophecies)

Makes you REALLY start to wonder how many things we can start to believe from The Inquirer...

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12 Mar 2007 at 18:38 - 885

as I said earlier on, I'm gonna wait till PC Gamer comes out. When is it due?

Enchanted Warrior

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12 Mar 2007 at 18:57 - 886

Amazing the effort going into finding out about this lol

Relambrien

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12 Mar 2007 at 19:40 - 887

Someone said the term "Guild Wars 2" was trademarked. This does NOT necessarily mean they are working on it; there was a specific event that caused game developers to be wary about trademarking things they might even THINK about doing.

This was Half-Life 2. The term "Half-Life 2" was trademarked by someone before the game company could, and thus the actual game had to have a superscript "2," creating the *properly* read name of "Half-Life Squared."

Thus, a lot of companies will trademark names of projects they may or may not work on for a VERY long time, but they want to ensure they have a name for. So perhaps when Anet was originally developing Guild Wars, they thought, "Hey we might wanna make a sequel, better reserve the name Guild Wars 2 just in case."

One of several possible situations.

Barek_NO

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12 Mar 2007 at 19:55 - 888

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Originally Posted by Relambrien

So perhaps when Anet was originally developing Guild Wars, they thought, "Hey we might wanna make a sequel, better reserve the name Guild Wars 2 just in case."

One of several possible situations.

The "''Guild Wars 2''" name wasn't trademarked until March 2007. But, as I mentioned way up above, I agree that the fact that the name is trademarked does not automatically mean that there is a GW2 in the works. There are multiple possible reasons for such a move.

Graywing

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12 Mar 2007 at 20:07 - 889

hmm, just a curiosity, guildwars2.com goes to a gold farmer's site

Barek_NO

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12 Mar 2007 at 20:24 - 890

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Originally Posted by Graywing

hmm, just a curiosity, guildwars2.com goes to a gold farmer's site

Yup, noted that here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=882

What's really odd is that guildwars2.com and guildwars2.org were both registered July 2004. The trademarking of the name could be as a direct response to the domain squatter, the first step in legal action on it for all we know.

The Eye of the North rumor is more convincing as ArenaNet/ NCSoft own both the URL and the trademark ... but the Guild Wars 2 rumors could be real, could be related to battle a cybersquatter, could be just a decision to trademark the name due to its recent publicity to prevent its use as a name for a rumors site, or could be some other as-yet unknown reason to trademark it.

The Great Al

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12 Mar 2007 at 20:49 - 891

how many more days til PCGamer subscribers get their issue?

sindex

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12 Mar 2007 at 21:01 - 892

Makes me wonder if Guild Wars 3 is not already been established as an official trade mark.

Barek_NO

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12 Mar 2007 at 21:09 - 893

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Originally Posted by sindex

Makes me wonder if Guild Wars 3 is not already been established as an official trade mark.

No, it hasn't - at least, not in the United States (not sure what agencies handle it elsewhere in the world). Anyone can do a search of the USPTO website for Trademarks. Currently, the only trademarks with "Guild Wars" in the name are: "Guild Wars", "Guild Wars Factions", "Guild Wars Nightfall", "Guild Wars: Eye of the North", and "Guild Wars 2".

Two oddities in that list: "GW:EotN" is the only one with a colon in the name. Also, the name "Guild Wars Prophecies" is not explicitly trademarked.

Lord-UWR

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12 Mar 2007 at 21:25 - 894

If someone is still wondering where the trademarks can be checked, see the link below:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query

sindex

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12 Mar 2007 at 21:28 - 895

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barek_NO

No, it hasn't - at least, not in the United States (not sure what agencies handle it elsewhere in the world). Anyone can do a search of the USPTO website for Trademarks. Currently, the only trademarks with "Guild Wars" in the name are: "Guild Wars", "Guild Wars Factions", "Guild Wars Nightfall", "Guild Wars: Eye of the North", and "Guild Wars 2".

Two oddities in that list: "GW:EotN" is the only one with a colon in the name. Also, the name "Guild Wars Prophecies" is not explicitly trademarked.

So I am guessing that whole Guild Wars: Utopia was a fluke then.

ElinoraNeSangre

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12 Mar 2007 at 22:17 - 896

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Originally Posted by sindex

So I am guessing that whole Guild Wars: Utopia was a fluke then.

Yep, that had been debunked already.

Heh I stumbled on the Eye of the North and Guild Wars 2 registration today as well. And even though Guild Wars 2 is registered, that still says nothing for the status (as people have noted) nor about if there is one (which is the more likely scenario) what it would contain.

Whoo the reports of the PC Gamer contents should start rolling in in a couple of days!

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12 Mar 2007 at 22:34 - 897

mailed in 3 days

The Great Al

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12 Mar 2007 at 22:36 - 898

they stated that GW:Utopia was some sort of project that they were working on but then decided against it, or something like that.

Relambrien

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12 Mar 2007 at 23:24 - 899

An interesting bit I noticed when I looked at the trademark pages for Guild Wars: Eye of the North and Guild Wars 2, is that trademarks were both filed on March 6th...one day after this was posted. Hmm, I wonder.... :P

Lord-UWR

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12 Mar 2007 at 23:31 - 900

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relambrien

An interesting bit I noticed when I looked at the trademark pages for Guild Wars: Eye of the North and Guild Wars 2, is that trademarks were both filed on March 6th...one day after this was posted. Hmm, I wonder.... :P

I noticed that as well. NCSoft might have gotten scared that some other company or individual would register the name and make a game with that name, which cannot be stopped at first.

Neriandal Freit

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12 Mar 2007 at 23:39 - 901

Precisely why none of us should "Read into this" and start believing that this has to be the next game title.

So "Utopia" is not out of the question, "Eye of the North" isn't out of the question. But, even though I am against all of this, if I have to pick a name I see them going with, it would be "Utopia". Why you ask?

Guildwars: Prophecies
Guildwars: Factions
Guildwars: Nightfall

Do you see the pattern?

Kos Luftar

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Scars Meadows

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12 Mar 2007 at 23:50 - 902

Well the pattern doesn't matter because EYE OF THE NORTH (according to The Inquierer) is not a campaign and its an add on, which is different from Factions and Nightfall. I still do not understand why you think its UTOPIA when its not even Trademarked and Gaile has said countless times that it is not it.

The Great Al

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12 Mar 2007 at 23:59 - 903

Gaile has said countless times that ch4 is not utopia, but it was initially going to be for some sort of GW-related project that IIRC got canned

Barek_NO

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13 Mar 2007 at 00:30 - 904

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Al

Gaile has said countless times that ch4 is not utopia, but it was initially going to be for some sort of GW-related project that IIRC got canned

Their actual statement was "It actually was used as a project name for an unannounced project, but we do not intend to use it for a product name" - which many people interpreted to mean that it was cancelled; but it could just as easilly mean that it was the development name for either rumored products "Guild Wars:Eye of the North" or "Guild Wars 2" (assuming that either or both are real).

xshadowwolfx

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13 Mar 2007 at 00:34 - 905

As for eye of the north, the domain name eyeofthenorth.org has been bought by NCsoft AND the name Guild Wars: Eye of the North has been trademarked.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_North

Neriandal Freit

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13 Mar 2007 at 00:55 - 906

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Originally Posted by Kos Luftar

Well the pattern doesn't matter because EYE OF THE NORTH (according to The Inquierer) is not a campaign and its an add on, which is different from Factions and Nightfall. I still do not understand why you think its UTOPIA when its not even Trademarked and Gaile has said countless times that it is not it.

Apparently you didn't read my post enough did you?

I said if I had to pick one, it would be Utopia. I did not say "I think it is", I said if I had to pick, that would be the one I pick. Secondly, it is more on a basis of ANET's appeal to One-Name titles. Utopia fits that, not Eye of the North.

Next: Don't listen to anything The Inquierer says, we know nothing yet. As someone has stated, ANET could have copyrighted those due to a "fear" of someone else doing it and putting them in a very tight situation. Seems sort of late to be copyrighting a game that could be coming out very soon doesn't it? Use a little logic for this sort of thing to understand that yes, there is a chance this is it, but this could also be a way of ANET insuring, should they want, that they have that title solely to them.

Lastly: Again, as someone has recently stated in this thread - on the guildwars website if you search around, you will discover that they state the next game is a campaign, not a add-on.

Overall, do not attempt to make me look like a babbling baboon. You are the one who hasn't read this topic, kept an eye on it and understand what people are thinking, what they do or don't know and what they expect to see in the next few days.

Yes, you can attempt to set me in my place in just a matter of hours really. And if it is the case, congratulations! Guildwars: Eye of the North Expansion will go entirely against many things they have stated. Guildwars: Eye of the North Campaign will be in their way. Guildwars: The North, sounds like something up their alley. Guildwars: We have no idea so let's stop speculating and keep stirring the pot, also sounds like a genius idea.

Brandon1107

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13 Mar 2007 at 01:43 - 907

names dont mean anything in being real or not. There are so many games that have expansions that have 1 word names or 4 word names.

but anyways its an expansion not and actual game.

Look at Diablo.

it was Diablo 1
then Diablo 2
then Diablo: Lord of Distructrion

it had a longer name so yea!

TRUEgamer

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13 Mar 2007 at 03:07 - 908

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon1107

names dont mean anything in being real or not. There are so many games that have expansions that have 1 word names or 4 word names.

but anyways its an expansion not and actual game.

Look at Diablo.

it was Diablo 1
then Diablo 2
then Diablo: Lord of Distructrion

it had a longer name so yea!

Blizzard != ArenaNet/NCSoft

The fact that the name has been trademarked and domains snatched leads me to beleive that EotN is going to be the official chapter name.

The 15th can't come fast enough.

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13 Mar 2007 at 03:11 - 909

I'm tempted to run away from the GW world untill the 15th because i can't take the build up and endless speculation any more.

The Great Al

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13 Mar 2007 at 04:26 - 910

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Originally Posted by lucifer_uk

I'm tempted to run away from the GW world untill the 15th because i can't take the build up and endless speculation any more.

i know, seriously! I've read every single post in this godforsaken thread

xshadowwolfx

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:03 - 911

Why do people get PC gamer on the 15th? It feels like I just got my issue a couple weeks ago, time for another already?

The Great Al

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:06 - 912

magazine companies like putting out issues months early, because if as person sees a 'may' issue in march, theyre going to think its newer than all of the other magazines and buy that one.

correct me if im wrong, thats my logic at least.

xshadowwolfx

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:08 - 913

Thx, but my question is does PC Gamer ship and arrive on the 15th? For people in the US namely California?

The Great Al

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:11 - 914

That's the date that some other subscriber stated, and that was also the date that I think was mentioned much earlier in this thread...so yes, i would think subscribers get it around then.

Absolute Eminence

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:12 - 915

I was hoping there would be a mentioning of an auction house. hope they rework their code to implement some sort of system to move items from one person to another efficiently across timezones, and the auction house model in WoW is the standard. I'm sure GW can do at least 10x better.

Also I hope they unveil a few expansions between Eye of the North and GW2. Maybe just another elite mission or something for $15.00 or something. Just something to keep people coming back. Would like GW2 to be massively successful.

xshadowwolfx

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:13 - 916

cool, Im dying from waiting.....zomg ch4 zomg zomg zomg zomg!! The answer to many of my questions...

Where is Gwen?
What happened to Ascalon and the Charr?
Dwarves?
Other intelligent races?

and ZOMG whos worse / eviler than Abaddon!??!

=)

sindex

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13 Mar 2007 at 05:25 - 917

You know thinking about it now; maybe just maybe, they were thinking about continuing the original GW series beyond chapter 4 (probably up to campaign 6). However something happened; which inevitably changed their minds and say, “let’s move on.” If it is true about GW 2, that is.

Hopefully they continue on the original GW and won’t retire it anytime soon.

manitoba1073

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13 Mar 2007 at 07:37 - 918

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...17617603777618

Found this out. seems like anet has taken a hit out on the pre sear bunny.

for giving away there secrets.

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13 Mar 2007 at 08:24 - 919

Firstly, to those of you saying that its pointless speculating, and that we should just wait for the article, I say this. I enjoy some speculation. I enjoy reading what other people think might come to pass, and sharing my thoughts with them. Maybe you don't. There's a simple solution to this: Don't read the thread.

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Originally Posted by sindex

You know thinking about it now; maybe just maybe, they were thinking about continuing the original GW series beyond chapter 4 (probably up to campaign 6). However something happened; which inevitably changed their minds and say, “let’s move on.” If it is true about GW 2, that is.

Hopefully they continue on the original GW and won’t retire it anytime soon.

I was thinking that too. Perhaps the reason that they've decided to discontinue the original GW (assuming of course that GW2 is actually happening according to that article) is that they want to rebuild the engine to accomodate new ideas they've had/we've suggested that the old engine just isn't able to handle.

These new features could include new races, auction house, changes to how a character's appearance is generated to enable players to change after creation. That last one is suggested quite often, and it could be that once your character is created, its appearance is hardcoded into the server. I don't know how difficult it would be to implement an auction house into the current system, but the idea of different races probably needs a complete revision of the character creation screen. Maybe they plan to make a new engine to allow for these features.

FoxBat

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13 Mar 2007 at 14:33 - 920

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe

hat last one is suggested quite often, and it could be that once your character is created, its appearance is hardcoded into the server.

No. It's just a number on a hard drive and can be changed at will, else you'd never be able to delete characters.