Poll: Should GW1 characters be able to cross over to the GW2?

I disagree. This is not a distributed poll, it was taken on a fan forum. You're going to get some serious coverage bias going on. Look at the recent threads on addiction for example. I'm not saying everyone here is, but there's definitely going to be a positive correlation. If half the people on a fan forum are willing to start again, I take that as a good sign.

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The the worthy debatable topic in this thread has started to turn. I see more personal responses of "I'm right...your an idiot because you don't agree with me" to valid problems/solutions/compromise to the question of if GW1 char moving to GW2.
There are many good responses on why char should and shouldn't be brought over. I would hate to see any good answer be drowned out or not ignored for more responses either selfishness or stubbornness. (No, I'm not point out anyone in particular.)
Keeping it simple, I would agree that some sort of compromise or recognition would nice in regards to a GW1 players devotion or time spent on the game, especially if they plan on moving on to GW2. I, personally IMO, can not see the benefit/practicality of transferring EVERYTHING on a char/account into GW2. Not saying it cant/or shouldn't be done.
Yet this is all speculation. I may be wrong in my thinking of how ANET should/might handle this. But until then ...*sits back with some iced tea on the porch*...its a nice day out and I'm going to enjoy it.

Jaythen you hit it on the spot, I've debated my points and I have only gotten responses on personal "Thinking". It is just a horribly bad, bad marketing decision if Anet wants to make a non monthly fee game on the market with such a player base that discourages present players. This is a no brainer.

New mechanics, new engine, new graphics, whatever the H311 you think is new, nothing beats the dollars in the pocket. Want to keep it that way? Satisfy as MANY as possible, not specific individuals.

This topic has gone to waste, with such disregarding posts there isn't even a point in debating anymore. Everyone is so biased.

When Guild Wars becomes old and outta date, the new everything will win the moolah. It'll be when someone's like "Wow, I remember Guild Wars...Oh my god! The sequal is coming out!!!"

But people, please, answer me this question: "Can you honestly say that you'll care about these characters five years from now?" Because that would be the only time - if not longer - that ANet will begin developing Guild Wars 2, if they decide to.

You're quite right, Shmanka: People haven't explored everything in the game yet. It is way to soon to come out with a sequal. There's a lot of things that people have worked for - high ranks, lots of armors, many characters - but it still does not justify a complete character transfer. Why be able to transfer characters from a nearly completely different game, with different graphics, skills, armor weapons...that are over 7 years old?

I'd like to import my chars to gw 2. I don't play a lot, becuse I study now, and dont have much time. So I didn't explore everything in gw. I like when my chars r "growing up", get new titles etc. Now, for me, there is no point in playing gw, becuse everything will be ended soon.
No import - I dont play gw 2, and choose other online game, where I'll be able to play longer with my chars, which will be destoryed in future by me, and not becuse game is ended.

What I think would be nice, is if the story would be connected. Lets say for example, that we make our chars, and the story tells us that these our our old heroes and such. Thais kind of connection is the olny one they can do imho.

There is no sense in actually getting our old chars cross over to a new game with all things intact. New game being an emphasis here. What makes everyone think that max swords would stay 15-22? or max armor 80?

Common, people - new is not the same. They added a "2" in there. Most people here seem to think that GW2 is a preetier GW.

GW is just like any other game that is not a monthly-pay-based. So Anet doesnt really need to worry about stuff that was said in here about money or somehing.

Common, its a new game, meaning it will probably be diffrent that the one we play right now.

Was there a sense in transfering our old D1 chars into D2?

Aside from that being completely unrelated to this debate, childish and I have no idea how my profile suggests I have no life.

How is it any less sad that 50% of players are getting emotionally attached to the their characters. To the point that they are threatening to boy-cot GW2 if they cant transfer them over?

I havent even played GWs in about 2 months. I've actually been having a life outside of the game because I got bored. Somehow sitting in the SU pub chatting to friends, apeals alot more then spending 3 hours a night online playing an MMO. I've also somehow managed to not break down in tears, or go cold-turkey from not seeing my prized elemental in a few months.

I apologise to the mod for responding to that, I know you said not to incourage flames. I hope I havent.

My point was very simply that GW2 will be a new game. I dont understand why people dont want to start a fresh and enjoy the challenge of it. Using existing characters will make GW2 extremely boring for PvE if you can just run straight in and complete the game in one go. Its like picking up a new book and reading the last page.

I have a question though.

This 50% of people who are voting to transfer characters. How many of you are PvP and how many are PvE?

I would have expected PvE players to love the idea of starting a whole new game from scratch because we all love to role play.

I have a feeling that most of the 50% are PvP players who dont like to RPG, dont like to grind and level and dont like to start new characters.

If thats the case, then that 50% vote isnt a valid figure and its biased.

The OP should have split the vote for PvP and PvE. Either had two seperate poles or made his choices take into account what play style you use.

The two sides are going to have very different opinions about this.

I can appreciate the PvP perspective of not wanting to start all over again. But I dont accept the PvE perspective because the whole point of PvE is to role play and create new characters.

A whole new game, with a fresh start, and a fresh new take on the Guild Wars world should be exactly what the PvE community have been thriving for. A chance to quence the bordem.

Why tarnish that with aspects from an older game? It should be as far removed from GW1 as it can, or its going to basically end up a sooped up version of Prophercies with new graphics, new missions and quests.

I dont want that, and I would hope other PvE'ers dont want that.

PvP here, I don't think they would have different arguments, rank, FoW, anything that is a huge accomplishment will want to carry over. The better question is: Who has played for over 5 months?

I never said complete, I had said instead of all skills possibly skill points as a suggestion even to break the ice between in game mechanics. Its people who say here that "nothing" is deserved to transfer over, which in my opinion from a business direction Anet should insue: is ridiculous.

So...We become a "veteran" player, which will earn us skill points, and give us a huge advantage over the newer players. Or is it skill points for PvE? Keep in mind that this is still five years from now.

Fresh start is best. I’ve all GW campaigns and completed all of them. I have new chars for every campaigns and I guess people enjoy having new chars, coz it was like all paragons or dervishs when I first played nightfall.

I think GW chars should stick with GW and GW2 chars or stuff should stick with GW2. I maybe wrong, but I think when GW2 actually comes out in 2009, popularity for GW may decline. But again, ppl may prefer GW if GW2 wasn’t really what we expected to be!

What in the blazes are you talking about... Skill points... PvE... you save and buy skill points on PvP characters?

Wait...now this is silly. Who says Guild Wars is ending "soon".
Is 2 years "soon"? 3 or more years "soon"?
That is quite a bit of time to play the game, IMO.
If GW2 were coming 6 months from now. I might agree. Why start spending time on a game where quite a bit of the population might be disappearing from? Still, I doubt GW1 servers will be shut down the day or soon after GW2 comes out.
Depending on how much time you play, 2 or 3 years should still give you time to get through one (at the very least) if not all the campaigns.

Import discussion aside, maybe that might be a better option for you if you feel that way. Still I think you will have years to play with your current characters.

I dunno....

Let me ask...does the majority of people who want to transfer want to do so to take their characters or their items?

To me, when I think of Guild Wars 2, I think of a completely new game. I am not thinking about Guild Wars version 2. By this I mean that GW2 should be a whole new game.New story, new lore, New classes, new contenient, new skills, new weapons, new armor, new balancing, new monsters, new EVERYTHING

I don't see how or why we should be able to transfer anything except our character avatars over into this new world. I want to see new weapon mods, not the same stuff we have now. I want to see new armor and inscriptions, not the same stuff we have now. Get my point?

If everyone is allowed to transfer everything they have, then its NOT a new game called Guild Wars 2, it will just be an overblown expansion.

Look, I have a certain attachment and loyalty to my characters and gear too, but I am willing to leave them behind for a new world of Guild Wars.

How about a different option... Especially as its supposdly set 100 or so years after Guild Wars... Why not be able to add GW2 to our GW1 account, yes they are different games, but using the same account for those of us from GW1 would be kinda cool and could add some nice crossovers

Kind of like Steam? I think that's actually a pretty cool idea. I like the idea of having an account with multiple games, and where I can download the clients onto any computer, load up my account, and play. Unless I misread?

I'm just confused about your post. I'll go and search back to see if I can understand better by your "skill point" idea.

EDIT: Naw, you'll still need to elaborate.

yeah, that was kinda the idea, yes

Than I'm all in favor of that. You could get like ANet points or somin, and use them to buy like, gifts, or something. But yeah, I concur.

i don't think i'll buy gw2 don't flame me but the game is being ruined imho
what i really want to know is when gw2 is released will they care for gw1 and will i be able to play it for a long time after or they'll just trash it...

Well, if Guild Wars is being ruined (and a lot of people share your opinion, no reason to get flamed), why not make that incentive to buy the sequal? That is unless Guild Wars becomes pretty harsh that you won't trust ANet with anything anymore.

In order to sustain their player base, it's safe to say Arenanet won't be making Guild Wars 2 in a long time from now. They don't even have the next chapter done yet, and it will be long before people are done finishing that. I'd be suprised if they released the sequal in as early as 5 years. There's still a lot to do in this game, so Guild Wars will probably stick around until the next game comes around.

Because i don't believe gw2 will turn good.

Edit: Anyway i voted NO for importing characters. The game will be entirely new so lots of things will probably work different compared to the old game. And i suppose it will be on much higher graphical level old chars will look out of place there.

I don't mean to flame, but this guy is totally brown nosing with a capital B. LOL and it sticks out in with the extra laughs.

50% of those players Ill bet are more pve than pvp. 50% are those people who worked hard on their pves to get the most expensive armor (probably more than 2 sets) in the game along work hard on titles. In pvp, you may get rank or even Kurzick or Luxon titles, which becomes universal, and not all but most of the players who probably and most likley aren't of that 50% with pves must not have accomplished that much. For players like that it's very easy to just delete a level 20 pve with 1.5k armor dyed red. PVPs don't need the extra hard work that is placed into PVEs who sooner become a much lavished pvp version once fully developed.

As the majority have spoken, if Anet thinks we should be grateful, they should be 10x grateful for us even having the time dealing with their work. It's not like they are the only video game makers out there. With that said, the majority has spoken, period.LOL.

If Anet isn't going to abide to importing new characters, then they should abide to terrible sales.

People are obviously not thinking things through.

Importing characters would equal duplicating the characters, assuming GW1 will still be up and running when GW2 comes around. (And there's no reason to believe it won't be.) We'd have two different versions of a character running around, one making progress in GW1, the other making progress in GW2. I can see it now, people asking for the progress they made in GW1 after they imported their characters into GW2 to be 'uploaded' to the GW2 version. Or should the GW1 version be deleted after the character 'warps' into GW2?

Or do we want the characters to move back and forth between the games? Yeah, obviously we do, that's what people are talking about here. ('We', as in 50% of the GWG community, the 50% I don't belong to, incidentally.)

So 'we' want GW2 to perpetually drag around the GW1 legacy as a ball and chain? Or are we expecting GW2 to be so similar to GW1 that moving characters between the games is something trivial? Neither option sounds like a good idea to 'me', especially the latter of the two. I'd want GW2 to be so far advanced, kicking GW1's ass on so many levels, that the very idea of importing characters would appear as nothing more than a silly notion we can all look back to and laugh at. Like taking some billion years old primordial self replicating proteins into the twentyfirst century and expecting them to function well in our society.

I would like SOME bonus features such as putting it on the same accoutn and trading items with yourself. Or bonus weapons or something. But however if it is in a different time such as the Charr invasion of Kryta and orr, or palawa joko's invasion, the character should not be allowed to go.


If it is in teh same time period or similar. make it very hard to go such as beating all missions or something (ok its not that hard)

i think the poll shows that 50% of the players want to bring there toons over, However, should the game come out and there toons can not come over, then most of those people will STILL buy guildwars. They may whine about it, but in the end i have faith that Anet will put out a product that i will want to play....

That's how life is in the long run. The point is, you had fun while it lasted, and now your ready to start all over again and uber-power your stuff! We're not wasting our time if we had fun anyway. But it would be cool if they could inteligently (which they do most of the time) give us some benefit while making it a fresh start. Or they could run the two games along side... Whatever, Arenanet is pretty good at things I'm sure they have some plans. One thing I hope though is that they let us have one universal account with a new client that lets Guilds exist cross servers. We could have two options when running the game: GW or GW2 character.

Hittin' the nail, repeatedly. People seem to be acting as though GW2 will be released tomarrow. Please people, think before you leap. Will you really, honestly, be so concerned about character transfer five years from now? Because that would be the only beneficial time to release a sequel to Guild Wars.

No they have not spoken, only Guild Wars Guru has.

And please, stop attacking him and others for speaking their minds.

I want nothing more than the names. I like my names.

I say that if they make GW2 they should give GW a proper ending. Maybe Gwen can come back with spontaneous combustion. That way we can watch all of our precious characters, titles and armor burn into thin air. The look on everyones face, Priceless....

Yes they have, in the polls.

Yes, the polls on Guild Wars Guru, unless you assume GWG to represent the current Guild Wars population - which it does not.

I'm sure any Mark 2 would be a major upgrade, but if I couldn't take the toon i've been playing for the last near 2 years then I'm out. It'd prolly be that perfect excuse to get out more and who knows...get that "life" thing I keep hearing being mentioned

Because GW has been selling well, I doubt they are shifting emphasis away from GW1 expansions because it isn't making them enough money. Rather they are probably tired of trying to innovate with the limitations of the old engine and mechanics. The majority frankly only matter so much, developers have to have their own vision and drive to make a game, they aren't slaves to your every whim, and they aren't going to throw those innovations out just because a lot of existing grinders want character compatability.

It doesn't matter. almost 1,000 players voted. That's already alot. We don't need everyone on this. The 50% that voted says it all.

I didn't read the whole thing because its 18 pages long. Sorry if this is already said.

I voted no, but let us link accounts in some way to save our old names. Just in case, i've already made a PvE toon with the name I want for my GW2 monk and I hope they do that.

If it is a new game I don't think they can bring old characters over from GW1 anyway. it will have different skills and different ways to use them. it will have different armor and different skins for the armor. it will have different graphics and programs that run the graphics, so they will not look the same even if you make them really really close.

If it doesn't have all these new programs then its not really a new game inthe first place. its just the old game with new stories on a different server with some addon features and updates. It is like trying to play shogo MAD on windows XP or Vista. shogo is a game that was made for windows 98 years and years ago when win98 was new. its used programs that worked for windows98. but lots of those programs don't work for windows XP or windows vista anymore. There are new programs that do the job better now or they were not very stable so they were redone or just stopped being used.

our old characters would be like shogo MAD on windows Vista. its a neat and all, but to make it work you would have to bring all the old programs with it. And they would have to work with the new ones too.

If we can get a name saving thing then we can rebuild our old characters in the new game anyway. We have to get all the new skills and all the new armors and stuff, but we would have had to do that anyway. Maybe people who owned all the GW1 games can get some kind of bonus item too, like the in-game /bonus stuff you get for having bought special additions. I like that idea too because it rewards loyal customers for coming back after 2 years of waiting.

Trust me, if my characters aren't able to be imported, FURY will look like alot of better gameplay. This is not the only game of its kind now, Guildwars was the first doesn't mean it will be the best.

As a suggestion I said perhaps instead of "revamping" all of the GW1 skills from GW1>GW2 they could do a proposed idea for PvE characters(since pvp are just insta creatable)

If a skill does not exist anymore and a character had it, it could instead gain a skill point.

Example: Diversion is not in GW2, and I want to transfer my Mesmer. When I transfer my mesmer Diversion is gone but is replaced with a skill point.

Simple, Clean, Easy, non-advantagable.

Characters with a huge amount of experience will just have to adapt just like the new characters made.

Now the possibility of weapons and armor, well personally since I will be a little bit biased here. I would propose to keep all of the FoW armor the same or very similar graphically. That external dimension I believe should stay intact to be as similar as possible. If they don't have FoW/UW in GW2, Anet.. right now don't call it GW2.

The max armor and weapon upgrades are questionable, but in all honesty if Anet can't modify a few numbers. I especially will not be buying any products under NCsoft.

I would say let charcs be able to carry over wif items.

Reason: Too much time spend on charcs. GW game by itself is boring when u think tht everything is the same. No grid etc (excluding the titles).

When Chapter 1 was released, the game started as being innovative etc, but when C3 came out, it starts to get boring. Lacking creativity, and innovation... I'm guessing unless GW2 is able to change that, this game is prob going the way of dodo bird.

Let's face it... how many of you guy buy all the chapters because u feel obliged, either due to guild pressure, frens pressure, or even the need to complete all skills, or the need to have that competitive edge in pvp?

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I see a lot of rants like.. this is a free game, no monthly payment as a form of zealous postings.
But hey, this idea isn't even new.
bnet started this trend way before anet.
games like starcraft, diablo series, silkroad, supreme destiny are all free to boot.

I would prob quit if charcs are not allowed to bring over. Prob will try out other online games.

You're assuming GW2 has mesmers, or something called skill points. What if it doesn't?

Look at another popular game that had a sequel. Diablo had Rogues, Warriors and Sorcerers; Diablo II had Amazons, Barbarians, Necromancers, Paladins, Sorcerers, (and later on Assassins and Druids)

You say you "have a life" just after you state that you worked a lot of time on characters... Talk about contradiction here. Get a life.

I can't understand why you wouldn't want to start over. It's a completely different game. It's like saying that if you can't port your characters from WoW to GW you refuse to play GW. Guess what? You can't have your characters in GW2. You refuse to play? Us 500 billion other players are just fine without you. Actually we are quite content without the 50% of current GW1 population.