Poll: Should GW1 characters be able to cross over to the GW2?

Of course not. The question isn't even worth considering. What a ridiculous idea. I'm looking forward to not running into the people who'll not buy into GW2 over this.

I can't see them creating minipets (Asura) in "GW1" that are "GW2" creatures but could never make it to "GW2".

New game, new character.

So no, I think fresh start is best when it comes to GW2

1.) You can still have a life and play Guild Wars. However, for people with lives it's not that easy to actually play more than one game. Leveling up doesn't take so much time because there's a lot of tricks. You figure how to market and make a major amount of gold in a short amount of time w/o having to cheat/ebay your way. It's really about time. If I had no life or if my career was working with video games, I would probably consider playing GW (and Fast Faction Farming for some Nazi-guild to help keep a pointless town such as House Zu Helzer) GW2 (if they decide to make it "new" *rolls eyes*), and WOW all at once, but I only have time for just one. And it's no secret that WOW is the game for the player with no life. I have friends who are on that game like Whitney Houston on Crack, Bobby on Whitney's crack and crack on Crack, Snapple, Pop.

Atleast with prophecies, factions and Nightfall they are combined. I can either continue developing a character (I'm more of a pve type) that doesn't take so much time or make a new one which still wont take soo much time cause you can pretty much have characters on your account shares a lot of the goods found on their journeys which takes me to......

2.) Anet will lose a lot of good customers if they decide to not allow players to crossover their characters with everything they worked so hard on, along some of the time they took to bring it up. Forget these minors ages 18 and under who live under their parents roof so they would have all the time to play all those games, but notice GW has a massively huge demograph of Adult consumers: Lawyers, business guys, single moms and dads, coming in Gameshop and such. I mean they come in with the time they can afford for atleast one game. I'm not a lawyer, mom or dad, but my career and the big city where the high rent is no joke fortuntaley gives some time, not a lot for one game. And that's Guild Wars. Leveling to 20 no problem, but having to start from scratch w/o gettng a compensation for the time I put in before, I will say it again..screw that! They'll just look at GW2, say they got no time for this and just go back to GW1 until they are finally done to put their love for the game at rest. LOL. So for Anet to only cater to that small voted percentage would be a marketing-suicide. Who cares if those players are gonna rant, "Forget this, I'm gonna play Wow!" As if they don't do that now. LOL.

3.) If Anet wishes to make GW2 take place in the future, so be it. (God just to imagine another Star Wars/Trekkie-rivalry to make war at the conventions. LOL) If they will to create a lil Time machine to cross over characters yay! If not screw it! If you wish to really just start over with something new, god just make a new character like you could originally or just delete your character accounts for the sake of starting "fresh." ^^. However, if Anet relieves players to do the crossovers, atleast expand the storage and inventory (for especially armor and weapons) since Anet LOOOOOOOOVES to make new armor sets and weapons and wants their lovely customers to try them all on.

Ok...Someone, anyone justify transfering characters. I'm losing my faith here...Not in ANet, but in the community.

And anything ANet wants will probably be not to transfer characters, because that is retarded.

Arenanet is not dumb. They know that they'll lose a large player base - only if they release Guild Wars 2 tomarrow. Try in a few years, when they'll actually consider making it, and by that time you'll have gotten so bored with Guild Wars that you'll actually be glad to "start over again" (you won't be starting over again because it's a new game, of course).

Yes... we should be allowed to import our older toons... Why you ask its a "brand new game" well lets debate about this for a moment... what makes it brand new?.... Will there be no monks... no rits no warriors no rangers ect in it? Ok so there is a new storyline and some kewl new features.... ahem.... sounds like factions and nightfall to me. Restarting titles for ha makes total sense to me... The "rank" system is flawed and needs to be restarted in a way that makes sense this I can understand....

But simply put if anet doesnt make an offical yes or no there is a guild wars 2 comeing and yes or no about porting old toons over. This almost 7k hr old player will NOT be buying even the next chapter... Not to mention this gw's2 bs. Yes... I spend alot of time playing guild wars I have time invested into developing my characters hell my monk is almost 3k hrs old alone in fissure armor and with every weapon I want and every skill I want and that is just one of my 10 characters. Am I attached to them hell yes!! I spent that much time developing them because I was under the assumption that guild wars would continue on for a long time to come.

This news makes me not want to even finish nightfall with my dervish or warrior and continue to develop those characters even more.. Whats the point.... what realy has me worried is my guild for the most part are ALL saying the same thing... Since this rumor came out I have people that havnt been online in days.... THIS RUMOR NEEDS TO BE RESPONDED TO NOW!! True or not anet is already looseing players because of it.... WE NEED OFFICAL WORD NOW!!

Ive spent to much cash/time playing on my fav char, maxing titles PVPing (if fame [Maby not fame just your last emote] doesnt carry over its so FTL).

I enjoy playing my monk (main) i dont think i should be FORCED to recreate it just because i want to play a expansion and get somthin "New" out of it.
If i wanted somthing new i would just not buy Guild Wars 2 i'd just go play Eve or somthing else because id rather play somthong new than have to regrind cash/fame/titles/unlocks.

You see this brotha's Avatar? A rit of fow armor. I feel his pain. Preach on brotha! AMEN!

You know, at first I thought the same thing. But after considering this thing with the HoH for instance, its not so dumb anymore. Belthy and the other gods may need the help of the old heroes so... whatever sparks youre mind.

Whichever the case will be, I will just make the same character I have in GW in GW2.

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That right there, is the sole reason of their successful BUSINESS MODEL. Why would you grow a Christmas tree, and cut it down for the holidays at 2 feet? This game has NOT BEEN FULLY EXPLORED. A new graphics engine I agree would be difficult to implement through stream technology, yet that does not mean our time invested should suffer. If Pokemon can do it, so can ANet. Get this through your head that poll up there, if more PvE'ers saw it they would vote yes to transfer. Over 80% of the gaming community I would say is PvE. If this poll popped up when you signed on guildwars you would have wished you sat on a toilet.

To me it is self-evident that a new game implies a fresh start. At most, they could allow people to transfer their characters' name and appearance, but I doubt they'll do even that. If skills and equipment are going to work the same in GW2, there isn't much point to it being a new game.

Having said that, I really hope Anet continues to support GW1. Once they stop supporting it, I'll start looking for a new game - it might well be GW2, but it might not.

I got it too, but I don't mind if they don't transfer characters because that's very far from now.

I have no problem with transfering a character to one campaign to another. If Guild Wars 2 becomes just another campaign upgrade then, wow, I guess their game *will* go in the toilet.

Which is why they won't release Guild Wars 2 for a large number of years, so when you do explore it completely you will not care. That is my point.

So because of lore, you get all of your skills unlocked, max level, max armor...All in a completely different game/engine/story/time.

I think the biggest problem with importing characters is that you will have to also import the mechanics of the old game. Let's face it, GW1 is a good game, but it is not a perfect game. There are many flaws with it.

A new game with no imports will allow for a complete redesign, perhaps even with the mechanics of the whole game. If imports are allowed, the game will be locked down into the old state to make all the skills and items compatible.

I think it would be a fatal flaw to allow imports. Yeah, people worked hard on their current characters, but how long do you think people will play if GW2 is exactly the same as GW1 with a new graphics shell? By the time GW2 actually comes, out GW1 will probably be about 4 years old already, I don't think people would stick to the same game for 4 more years.

Maybe not, because by then Guild War players then would've moved on into something else...called life. lol.

If we transfered our GW1 toons over to GW2 they would need a huge graphics update

somehow move them forward but make it be there children or grandchildren wearing their armor or something...

@ Bryant Again Great argument. Actually screw the sarcasm. That is a such a poor response that I'm not even going to bother to reason and argue against it.

Moving on.

Regardless i will probably play GW2 if and when it comes out. But on the subject of characters transfers, if there is such a thing, all money, items, armour should be lost in the transition. A character transition should only include the base character(name and appearance only) (maybe we can get that hair stylist :-p). But having character transitions requires that GW and GW2 be able to "talk" to each other to a certain extent. Since its highly unlikely that GW2 would even use the GW1 engine, then there would have to be a way to link the accounts between the games or keep the old account but upgrade it to be compatible with GW2.

However, there really is no reason to not allow for a base character to cross over. Lore wise Anet can easily come up with a way to time warp your character. I mean this is coming from a fantasy game with teleports that warp you across the map and a completely different realm where you can interact with spirits and gods. Your character could fall into the Mists losing all its tangible items and wake up 100 years later naked for all i care.

But taking all the armour, money, items and stuff just doesnt fit with a new game thats supposed to take place 100 years later.

As for titles, i won't be that hurt to see them go with the transition to GW2. I can always go back and play GW1 and show off what titles i own. The only titles that should be considered porting would maybe be the pvp titles, unless they decided to revamp the pvp. Then they shouldn't import any titles.

In short, if GW2 is made, they should include just base character swaps. Its a new game, but it shouldn't completely devoid people of EVERYTHING from GW1. At least let people keep their old names and appearance. Sure i could recreate the character, but it won't feel the same.

If you notice what I'm quoting you'll see why I posted it as such. Sorry it came off like that. Here's said qoute, see underlined:

YES!!! I've put so much time into my characters, experience, armor, weapons, and titles. When I finally get everything I want to accomplish a new game will come out and i'll trash my old character? Um..nty

kthanxbai

Keep it in speculation and opinions, please.
If flames start to grow this whole thread will go down in a blaze like wooden statues at a burning man festival.

My opinion has already been said in previous posts and by my vote in this poll.

My speculation on this matter, based on other games models and examples, is that GW2 will keep everything separate. I plan to play the beta weekends to see if I like it.
To base off of whether or not I will play GW2, whenever it gets released, on speculation of if I could take a char across at all or not is kinda silly. To call the doom of ANET based on the fear of not being able to bring your char into GW2 is just preposterous.

im pretty disappointed that "yes" is winning. i dont want to see a tyrian W/Mo in a new game.

Well, I wasnt really thinking about getting our heroes in with EVERYTHING we had on them... Like I said, I would remake the same char anyway, but if the story had a relation to our old chars, than thats a plus for me.

Im definately with importing now.

The more i think about it, the more my thoughts come around to:
"You played for 2 years, and now, your gonna keep playing the same game, but as if those two years never even happened?"

And then this as well:
"I've worked hard for what i've managed to get over those 2 years (which isn't very much) and now i have to start again?"

So yep, im concrete set now, allow Imports.
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Another option i can see is having two games running at once; Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2.

One of the two expansion teams continues to run with Guild Wars the other with 2.

Hell i'd buy both expansions for both games!

What about them? Just because someone has 12 characters, doesnt make them anymore special then me with 3. They are just as capable of starting new characters and putting some effort in like the rest of us.

Thats a mature attitude. We're not paying monthly fees to play this game. Anet doesnt owe us anything, and I think we should be greatfull for the great work they have done in the last 2 years.

But thats not enough for most players. They still want to cry like a baby and ask for more stuff.

If we were paying monthly fees, then I could understand this debate. I could appreciate the idea of importing characters because we're actually paying to use the system and we're paying to store our characters and their information.

But we're not. Its free. The only money we have put forward if buying the game.

Factions = expansion.

GWs2 = new game.

Thats my valid point.

Where did you hear anything suggesting that factions was going to have a wonderfully improved and different graphics engine? and it wouldnt allow you to use previous characters?

I must have missed that article. I dont remember reading that when it was being developed.

You cant compare an expansion like factions to an entirely new game like GWs2 and say "well they managed it with an expansion, so I want it in the new game".

Thats retarded. Factions and NF have used the same graphics engine as Prophercies for obvious reasons. To allow them to use existing models and skins. To spare them having to spend time and money developing new technologies.

Had they decided to improve the graphics in factions and NF, it would have added development time and then everyone would winge and cry about how long its taking.

GWs2 is going to be a completely new start and a chance for Anet to take advantage new technologies that quite simply will be years ahead of what GWs is now.

It wont handle old models and skins. And in order for it to do so, they would have to double their work load. Then we end up with people winging they missed their 2008-2009 release date.

This idea of taking your characters accross is nothing more then selfish and a serious sign of addiction and a worrying attachment to a computer character.

And besides all of this....

...GW1 will probably keep going for a good few years after GW2 is released. Their not going to pull the plug on the game just because the new one comes out. You will still be able to play your characters for a long time after GW2 is released.

Just stop being so lazey and start a fresh character like everyoner else is going to have to do. Its not going to kill you.

And the chances are also that your "ranks" in GWs1, wont work in GWs2 because their ranking system could be changed. Titles might not work because that system might change or be removed.

It isnt just graphics that will improved. The entire character development system could be revamped and ranks and titles might simply not work.




Everyone is being extremely selfish in expecting Anet to bend over backwards for them. They have a chance to create a whole new game, improve on the bad points and keep the good ones. Improve graphics, sound and gameplay.

But all this winging about importing characters is going to do nothing except cause them issues.

Well it's certainly not going to kill you if we bring over our characters is it?

No?I thought as much.

Anyway,The General Public have since been able to trasnfer characters from Prophecies to Factions and onward to Nightfall.Then when Eye of the North comes out,We'll be able to bring them there.

How do you think the general public are going to react if a feature that allowed characters to be transfered to a different game release was removed?

Theres a great chance that it will not go.."well".

And no,Factions and Nightfall cannot be considered "expansions". You don't require ANYTHING to play them.You can play them as stand alone games.

Prophercies + factions + nightfall = Guild Wars 1 = Same world, time, space, stories which all expand upon one another.

Guild Wars 2 = Entirely different game, new world, new time, new everything.

How is that hard to grasp! It isnt a question of removing a facility to port characters from one to the other, because its an entirely different game.. There is nothing to import, there are no characters to share or move accross.

The two games are completely indepedant of one another.

Thats makes about as much sense as complaining that couldnt port your characters over from Diablo2 into GuildWars. Think about it!!

And its not going to kill you to just start a fresh character either. And if you do bring a complete character over, its going to give you a staggering advantage over everyone else who wants to start a fresh.

Whats the point in buying a completely new game, if you just want to skip half the content and run straight to end? It seems a waste of money to me.

Thats all im saying or I'll end up repeating myself more.

This poll is too soon, considering the lack of info we have.
I voted "yes", considering the worst "scenario".
The worst scenario is that the engine, mechanics, and world is similar (but not exactly the same) than GW1, AND that GW1 is completely abandonned by the devs team for GW2.
But I would vote "no" if:
-The dev tems were different on GW1 and GW2
-GW1 would continue to have some expansions (like the Sorrow Furnace's one), so GW1 and 2 would have a separate life
-GW2 would have complete reworking of skills, profs, world and storyline.
-I will meet Gwen in GW2

We actually do not have any info on these points.
So it is better not to "plan on the comet".
However, IMO, if A-Net would have made a completely new game, they wouldn't have called it GW2, but, I don't know, "Carebears strikes back". Calling it GW2 clearly points out that GW1 won't have as much love as GW2 from devs teams. Would it be completely abandonned, and the import option would become a serious matter.

If gw1 characters can cross over to gw2, then its not a new game... wheres the point on getting a fully leveled/equipped character into a suppose new game?

The only possible thing i would see as acceptable, would be an option to start gw2 with your gw1 character but with everything reseted(lvl/armor...), however this wouldn't change anything in your gw1 account.

This is not a nintendo game.

If you look Everquest and Everquest 2, they are in same world but totally different and not compatible. Because EQ2 have been made after and use a better technologie. They also upgraded alot of things. Its better in the EQ2.

Euh ...Sorry but you wasted your time ... this is only a game. Dont lose your time to do something that you dont like to do.

If you get a title or an armor or whathever ... its for the game you are playing in the moment thats all. You know you charactere wont follow you all your life ?

If you want to continu to play with your title and the stuff you collected, well continu to play GW1, Im sure server gonna run for a while.

If GW2 happen, it not gonna be a new chapter, it gonna be a new game.

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GW1 cannot continue like that forever ... the 3 lasts chapters didnt bring anything news for PVE. Oh yeah they are new fighting zone and new elite zones But we are still lev 20 with with the same powerfull armor and the same weapons. The only new things in NF its the fact thats its easier to get a perfect weapons. Our characters cannot become really stronger. The only thing they added is the titles ... But thats not making my charactere evoluate. We are running around with nothing really new happening

Thats why I think GW2 gonna be different and not compatible with gw1.

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I continue to read other pages and im a little confused. People are talking about the time they invested, about the work they have put in etc etc... alot of sentence like that.

This is a game ... not a life you are building. The time you put in a game is not an investment ... its supposed to have fun during this period of time .. thats all.
I have alot of title and some nice minipets collection but the day I will decide to play something else ... I wont care about GW1.

Its probably the reason why I stopped PVP after rank3 ... I cannot understand why people do always the same thing day after day to only get a title as result .... If you like to do it, thats ok but stop to think this is an investment.
I prefer discovering new zone, new mobs and new tactic to kill them... do it few time and find something else to do...but thats my opinion.


I saw few people talking about EQ, I was playing on Mithaniel Marr from 1999 to 2002, anybody were from MM ? Use a PM to talk about that.

Technically it isn't in the same time. Honestly I am beginning to think that the people who want a COMPLETELY new start are the ones who are not well off within this one. The people who have more then you accomplished DO deserve better, if you have a membership at whatever store you are treated better then the guy to the right.

The monthly fee idea is going to backfire on this one. There is no reason to include it in this debate, we all know Anet is doing their job, this is not the question. To me, the glass is half full, what do people exactly LOSE by having this option put into place? Glountz pointed out something perfectly.

Prophecies= a standalone game
Factions= a new stand alone game
Nightfall= a new standalone game

Factions is not an "expansion". Yet you seem to have that idea, which is incorrect.

Primarily, I am disapointed in myself for even countering this point.
Every single GW game is independant but compatible with each other.
Diablo 2 was made by full blizzard staff, and GuildWars was not. Thats like asking your Super Mario to transfer over to Tekken. Not one pokemon from one game to the next, which makes sense.

I understand this is not nintendo, it's better then that. If anet wants customers, it isn't just a "flavour" function, its a business decision. Since there is no monthly fee Anet needs to keep all the customers it can, what makes you believe after this poll that you are all correct? No one in their right minds will REGRIND everything people have accomplished other then 3 level 20 characters. The people who have accomplished more then this, obviously deserve better. I for one am seeing a decline in activity in most guilds because of this rumour already. No one will have the incentive to play this game or the next. You have made your accomplishments freekedoutfish, yet many people have made greater, this is not a real time strategy or first person shooter where the whole game can become functionally different.
This is a question of guildwars, to another guildwars. A game of this calibur should be insued to have higher expectations. This is why people complain, the box and after you install the game say different things already.

This guy clearly as nothing better to do in life. Look at his profile. Go figure. If Anet wishes to believe they owe the GW community nothing because of free online-gaming, YET for the players to get out of their spare time to buy the campaigns, and invest what they to even deal with the game (leveling, buying Ascended Armor, Ranks - Things that the non-50% of the voters tends to not succeed getting) would be marketing-suicide.

The players is what makes Guild Wars stay alive today. Without us, Guild Wars 2 would just become a real myth. So if Anet wishes to ignore the 50% that knows why they voted way better than the minority don't be surprised if GW2 sales become so bad it would make Mariah Carey's "Glitter" movie a box office hit. Anet wants GW2 to become a bigger and better hit and for that to happen the sales would need to go sky rocket or else they'll have competitors such as the creaters of WOW laughing at them.

Get with majority Anet, they have spoken.

Please stop with the personal insults, flamebait and more or this thread will be closed.

in thinking about this I have come to the following conclusions:

1. Guild Wars, as we know it- Its not like the servers are going to turn into pumpkins at midnight... We will always be able to play- the simple fact they are making a GW2 shows that the company is not going under. Look at Starcraft or Diablo 1--- sorry to use 2 blizzard examples, but up until WoW, Blizzard was actually a respectable company (I still play DotA, foolz!)

2. I do not expect to 'carry over' an old gw toon to gw2.... what I DO expect is to be able to use my same handles (horseman of war, for example, might not be the leetest sounding name in the game, but its carried me through many games now)

Er... sorry but where did you get the idea that Guild Wars is free and that people aren't paying to play it? Was I mistaken and was all the money I paid for purchasing the campaigns going to the retailer and not to Anet?

People are not being 'selfish' over this issue - they are simply stating what they want Anet's future product to be like. This is no different from people saying that 'I will not buy a European PS3 until Sony improve backwards compatibility'. Anet are not a charity - they are a business expecting us to purchase their product.

It is not 'selfishness' by any interpretation of the word for consumers to state what qualities will induce them to buy a future Anet product.

In short, Guild Wars is not free (are you confusing this game with Runescape?) and paying customers being critical of Anet is not selfishness.

its pretty common knowledge that guildwars, at its heart, is not a high-content rpg game. the basic storyline for ANY of the three chapters can be completed in a few days if you do not know what to do, often within a day if you do know what needs to be done. in comparison to other mmorpgs the main-line content is somewhat lacking. on the other hand, yes its true that there is no monthly subscription. however, just because a company chooses, yes CHOOSES not to initiate a monthly fee does not give them the right to ignore their customers and then be surprized when they are ignored back. but i digress.
the substantial majority of guildwar's content, in any of the 3 games, is in the metagame. this is not only very observable by the playerbase, but even stated by anet itself. most of the games content is not seen untill after your character hits lvl 20, and still a very, very large part exists after the game is beaten. this comes in the base (by "base" i mean activities that require zero money or grind, in a sense and are arguably available 100% of the time) form of completing mission bonuses, elite skillcapping and pvp.
there are also other non-base activites such as aquiring items and titles, FoW, UW, elite areas/missions, etc.
the fact of the matter is most of the games content is seperate from the game's main storyline, and the majority of the metagame content is character-based. to not allow the import of characters would be a gross financial mistake.
in this poll 50.37% (at the time i made my vote) of people would not get the next chapter if disallowed to import their characters.
now, this is a poll of only about 1,000 people at the time of this vote. however, it illustrates an important perspective that must be kept in mind; most people have worked hard on their characters and do not wish to see this work go to waste.
will everyone whose worked hard on characters boycott the next chapter if characters cannot be imported? obviously not.
however, you must assume that the percentage of people who would not purchase GW2 is LARGER, not smaller, than indicated.
why is this?
because even though some people may not outright boycott the next chapter, they may feel that they wish to achieve some level of completion with their characters before moving onto the next game. and with such a substantial amount of the gameplay based in the metagame, with 10 different character classes, it could keep players occupied for a very, very long time. disregarding these notions, if GW2 has as short of a main storyline as the 3 GW1 chapters, and players observe that once again the majority of gameplay is in the metagame, they will wonder "why waste my time and money developing characters in the metagame for a new game, when i can just continue the work ive been doing on my already existing meta-game based experience for which i have been chiping away at for 2 years now?"
the bottom line is unless GW2 is fundamentally different from GW1, to the degree that it barely resembles GW1, it will have the same "feel" and when this is observed by players it will form the detriment of their financial basis for the series. why would people buy 2 totally seperate entities with the same meta-game feel when they can just stick to the ones they already possess and have spent large amounts of time and money on (GW chapters are not cheap, and are released very quickly), especially when there is so much work to still be done on account of the games ridiculously narrow intervals for release times?
the answer is even if most people dont outright boycott GW2, they will probably remain in GW1 untill they feel satisfied by their accomplishments. and when they observe that GW2 is still...guildwars, they will wonder why are they playing the same game with a new begining.
some previous posters have made mention fo the incompatibility of diablo 1 characters with diablo2, and EQ1 with EQ2. well, these games were based YEARS apart, the guildwars chapters, only months. by the time D2 and EQ2 were released, a substantial amount of their playerbase had achieved a sense of completion. but with guildwars' 6 month release schedule the same cannot be expected.

I'm with you on this freekedoutfish.
I honestly believe as well that Anet would not waste time creating Guild Wars content in a sequel. That it will essentially be an entirely new game, content, mechanics, skills, professions, races, ect.
And that the only connection between the two will be that they both take place in the same universe with the same gods. Like a Spider-Man comic and an X-Men comic. 2 different things, just in the same universe.
It should be new characters, new stories, a whole new experience.
You'd play it for fun. Not because you feel tricked into believing that a online RPG character is going to last your lifetime and should go from game to game to game, nor that all that time invested in a character was supposed to amount to some great end. Because that's really silly.

"Regriding" would only apply to the same game. GW2 will most likely be a whole new game, campaign, engine, story with whole new rules, graphics, characters, altered professions, monsters, game mechanics, skills, money, armor, weapons, everything.

'Nuff said, please close. NEXT!!!

Threads like this one are precious.

Isnt GW2 supposed to come out in 2009 or something?

to be honest I would like it if the old characters were integrated in somehow even if they appeared in an explorable for your account sort of like the way Master Togo appeared out of tahnkani (whatever the spelling is) temple when you beat factions.

Even if its not possible I don't mind starting anew I mean I got 9 characters 6 level 20 pve and if its all new its going to be all changed etc so yeah...I wouldn't really mind putting the nose to the grindstone again but it would be nice if they could integrate the characters in even if they aren't playable. I mean god they would have saved the world a good 4 or 5 times give them a monument or something. :P