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Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 22:48 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicks66

I think a lot of people have seen the increased level cap as a threat, but as a few people earlier have said, it could be quite superficial. That is to say, its the equivalent of a tormented item, it looks good but overall is no better than a cheapy green you can get for 5k

We don't know if it's cosmetic or if it actually affects your character.

Crotalus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

20 Mar 2007 at 22:48 - 122

This news of GW turning into a f2p* WoW clone is of no surprise. I was told to 'grind moar n00b' from this community when it came to acquiring skills and gold .
HAHA! I love it!

(*admittedly, i do not know how they will keep a non-instanced game free-to-play.)

Americas Monk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

wisconsin

Dagons Of Darkness

Mo/Me

20 Mar 2007 at 22:50 - 123

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggs0wn

I read up to this point and had to say "Thank God!" GW2 looks awesome but if there were monthly fees...I would have to find a new game. No monthly fees is so FTW!

I agree. Monthly fee's would have been the end of GW for me.

Thank you Anet for no monthly fees

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

20 Mar 2007 at 22:50 - 124

Hmm... maybe levels above 20 work towards a title and nothing more.

That would be nice.

Or skins and armors that require higher levels but have the same values as all maxed weapons etc.

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

20 Mar 2007 at 22:52 - 125

Good to hear the catacombs are coming back. Let's go kill Gwen or release her from some kind of enslavement.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

20 Mar 2007 at 22:53 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by explodemyheart

It was also said elsewhere. I'm not sure if it was in this thread or another though. There's too many discussions going on at once to keep track, but someone with the magazine said it.

The quote was with respect to GW:EN. That's in literally the second post, from Liquid Steel's summary. Again, reading is key.

One thing I'll like to see is how ArenaNet will handle player grouping. The info in the article sounds like it will be more single-player than grouping (but grouping is an option with these apparent "companions).

Panacea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

20 Mar 2007 at 22:53 - 127

I'm putting my trust in ANet. With every game, and every campaign, they've made something that keeps my interest. ANet took an odd idea, and made it awesome. They made what is probably one of the most creative MMO's I've played to date, as well as the most engrossing because of the CCG aspect. Now they're making another game.

What do you people want? Guild Wars with better graphics? Personally, I think the graphics are good enough as it is! Maybe my mind will change in two years, but I think that ANet has a good idea here. From what I've read, they're rebuilding from the ground up. Looking at what people like in Guild Wars, and what they don't. What people like about WoW, and what they don't. Yeah, I can see some WoW in the description. But it's the beginning of a new game! Somehow, I think that ANet is just a tiny, tiny bit too creative to make yet another WoW clone. We haven't read the article. We don't know what they're going for in the end here.

Personally, when I hear that a game is getting a sequal, I have two reactions, depending on the company making it. Either - oh gods, a new plotline and graphics. Or, that the company is bored of the current style of play and are making up a whole new type. ANet causes one of the latter, if just because of the stuff that they try out in the campaigns. Here's one person actively looking forward to the Guild Wars II beta in 2008, and the release in 2009. Somehow I think that at that time, Blizzard might have a bit of competition for it's rank as the top MMO around.

Now if only I could see some of the pictures from the magazine... *sigh*

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

20 Mar 2007 at 22:53 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

It may be a little confusing with discussing both the expansion pack and the new game. The raising of the level cap will apply to Guild Wars 2, not to Eye of the North.

Gaile, this is what happens when you do combined announcements...

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

20 Mar 2007 at 22:54 - 129

The game could easily be supported by micro-transcations. They've become very big with console games and have made millions for some companies, I wouldn't be surprised if something like this was included in more MMO's as a way to support them. Just wait until they're asking us to pay $10 for horse armour.

I'm pretty excited about Eye of the North, but I'm not so sure how I feel about GW2. I loved Guild Wars because it wasn't like every other MMO. However, I'm not going to adopt the same pesimistic attitude some other people seem to have, and I'll more than certainly give the second game a chance.

pb1285n

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

20 Mar 2007 at 22:54 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by explodemyheart

Show me where I said grinding, please. I enjoy playing in places like FoW, UW, and DoA. I don't do it so I can get items, I do it because I enjoy playing in those places. Items are just a bonus.

As someone said earlier, the level cap was nice because until level 20, you were developing your character. After that, you were, in a sense, developing yourself because GW was more about your personal skill, rather than your level/items/advantage over someone else.

I don't really care about character development because GW was not an MMORPG, that's not what it was about. If I cared about character development, I'd go play WoW or D&D.

Oh so you enjoy hanging out in the underworld just to chill and kill monsters? How does that make a difference from killing monsters anywhere else? People wouldn't care about the level cap if they weren't racing through games to get the best everything. How about playing the game for enjoyment rather then being the best. If you want to show off your skill, then pvp. Who uses a PvE character in PvP anyway? They already stated anyway that everyone would be raised to the cap in PvP.

I don't care about level caps because I don't care if someone is better then me. I don't need to have the best items right away. I am happy finding a new stronger weapon whether it is max or not. Also I have a whole world to explore and enjoy instead of just a few higher end instances because all the content was focused on max level players.

danyjr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 22:55 - 131

To be very honest with you all, the only reason I may buy GW2 will be because it is free to play. Otherwise I'm not gonna pay all my money for a grindfest PvE game, cause I'VE ALREADY PLAYED ONE FOR 2+ YEARS.

Thanks for killing Guild War's PvP. I thought PvP was the reason why GW was so famous?

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

20 Mar 2007 at 22:55 - 132

does seem like the essence of GW is kind of dissapearing but then again this expansion seems like its gonna be amazing. I think a lot of people are taking this out of proportion. I'm just gonna wait and see how everyhting comes out. Not to sound like a fanboy or nything but knowing Anet and how they lsiten to their community i doub they'll do anything that will make them lose lots of customers. and they definitely won't make it like WoW (hopefully) since they should know how many people would hate that.

maket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Kyiv, Ukraine

Yamato Elephants {YES}

Me/E

20 Mar 2007 at 22:55 - 133

Should i say, that in 2009 there will be more corean WoW clones then shooters ever released? Im only wish Arena good luck, and hope they come up with something really new.

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

20 Mar 2007 at 22:57 - 134

i'm waiting breathless for this mag to hit news stands, i will be buying copys for extra minpets and freinds and such..............wow so much info

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

20 Mar 2007 at 22:57 - 135

OK this information is very good.
New races,dungeons,World vs World

......
I am fan of Gw but i have two questions for ppl on the forum but esspecaly Gaile:
1.When i first heard about Gw2 my first in my mind question was:''Can we transfer our Gw1 chars to Gw2?''Every day i am especting this info from mag posted on forum.I live in Croatia and i can t buy that UK magazines.So pls Gaile ask your partners

if we will can transfer our chars.And i read one post here somewhere about that we will can show our titles,minies but no stuff.I read that so don t answer me that post

2.As i have let s say little old computer i am worring about what configuration will be needed.I know that this year i will buy new computer but for 2 years there will be processors with 4.Ghz and RAM of 4 Gb and i don t need to say about graphics

So it would be very good that for playing Gw2 we don t need to have new graphics card from that let s say ''year''.I love like is now.My comp is little old and i am still palying Gw(all 3 champaigns

)on high details without lagg

So Gaile pls answer on my first question.
Ty a lot!!

P.S.sorry for any gramatical mistake

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

20 Mar 2007 at 22:57 - 136

Unfortunately, I'm thinking that since they are dumping GW and moving onto GW2 instead of making new campaigns that the end for GW is near (relatively speaking) as well. If there's no future expansion to it, the servers probably won't be maintained too long. For those that made comparisons to EQ and EQ2, both are subscription models so they can afford to keep them running. With a non-subscription model system, there's no incentive to keep GW running.. :-(

Even with one of the oldest MMOs (Ultima Online), since it's subscription based, even with widely different expansions, you don't have to start all over if you've got so much time invested. That's the downside of not paying a monthly fee. When they restructure, there's no money coming in to keep the old one going. If GW2 is non-subscription then the same thing is likely to happen with it in a few years if they decide to change again. Unlike UO, EQ/EQ2, even WoW there's no sustainability past that design change (unless they add monthly fees, which they said they would not do). I was always against monthly fees (reason I stopped UO after a while and didn't get back into them hardcore until GW came along), but now being a long time RPG'er, I see their use. Of course, until they shutdown the GW serves, it's all speculation. I think people would be hard pressed to move into GW2 if it had the sme fate waiting for it when the next design change came along.

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

20 Mar 2007 at 22:59 - 137

I think people take the word "grind" to mean two different things. And what I want to say is Guild Wars is a beautiful game.. if they had enough content and places to explore for up to level 1,000 that would be awesome... Explore.. have fun... enjoy the ride...

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

20 Mar 2007 at 23:00 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb1285n

How about playing the game for enjoyment rather then being the best.

Gee, I'm pretty sure I already said that's what I did.

Feel free to continue telling me how I should play the game though.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 23:01 - 139

I'd like to know a few things:

1) Will the skills system of 8 on a bar still be in place in GW2?

2) Will GW2 keep it's current professions from GW?

3) Will ANY of the current GW skills appear in GW2?

As you can tell, I like the current skill/attributes/build system we have now.

Innit

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 23:02 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ernada

I'd like to know a few things:

1) Will the skills system of 8 on a bar still be in place in GW2?

2) Will GW2 keep it's current professions from GW?

3) Will ANY of the current GW skills appear in GW2?

As you can tell, I like the current skill/attributes/build system we have now.

Or you enjoy reading my posts.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

20 Mar 2007 at 23:02 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

More info Gaile...please... I don't want GW2 PvE to be filled with Grinding!

I really don't see how having a higher level cap equates to "grinding." Seriously -- I've played games with caps, without caps, with caps that the devs raised over the years, and everything in between.

As a gamer, I think I sort of like the ability to get higher numbers, even if it only shows my investment, my time spent in the game. Now, surely it's true that someone may have lots of lower-level characters, and that player may have achieved more and know more about the game than a player with a single high-level character. It's not, in my opinion, anything like, "My level 50 is 'better' than your level 20." Or, "I'm all that because I was the first to reach Level X."

I just sort of like that feeling of having been around for a while, or "veterancy." It sort of ties in with how much I like the Divine Aura, and the birthday presents, and the first year's Halloween items and with the fact they're only owned by those of us who were here, 'way back then. Each of those things seem to show a history, and for some, that's a very cool thing.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

20 Mar 2007 at 23:03 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by natuxatu

I think people take the word "grind" to mean two different things. And what I want to say is Guild Wars is a beautiful game.. if they had enough content and places to explore for up to level 1,000 that would be awesome... Explore.. have fun... enjoy the ride...

"Level" is relative in MMOs. Even if the level cap is 100 or so, you could probably hit lv. 10 in an hour or less. Factions is a good example in action. (example: in WoW, a player can typically hit lv. 10 in 3 hours, but the level cap of that game is 70.)

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 23:05 - 143

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innit

Or you enjoy reading my posts.

Doh. I didnt see your posts but glad to see someone like minded.

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

20 Mar 2007 at 23:05 - 144

Did I imagine it saying GW1 characters could carry over? 'Cause I thought I just read that, but when I reread the first page I couldn't find it anywhere.....

eVeRt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

N/

20 Mar 2007 at 23:05 - 145

Seriously how am I going to get some sleep tonight?

/excited
/dance
/jump
/fistshake

Very nice! Can't wait for PC Gameplay to release here.

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 23:05 - 146

I don't know what to say. I'm not suprized, but i am disapointed, now i know why there bringing out "Hard Mod" to keep people busy till GW:2 is out, i hope that the next game is HUGE, or once i beat it, i'll leave it. Time will tell. Also i gotta get the PCGAMER so i can understand there stuff better.

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

20 Mar 2007 at 23:06 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I really don't see how having a higher level cap equates to "grinding." Seriously -- I've played games with caps, without caps, with caps that the devs raised over the years, and everything in between.

As a gamer, I think I sort of like the ability to get higher numbers, even if it only shows my investment, my time spent in the game. Now, surely it's true that someone may have lots of lower-level characters, and that player may have achieved more and know more about the game than a player with a single high-level character. It's not, in my opinion, anything like, "My level 50 is 'better' than your level 20." Or, "I'm all that because I was the first to reach Level X."

I just sort of like that feeling of having been around for a while, or "veterancy." It sort of ties in with how much I like the Divine Aura, and the birthday presents, and the first year's Halloween items and with the fact they're only owned by those of us who were here, 'way back then. Each of those things seem to show a history, and for some, that's a very cool thing.

That cleared alot up for me.

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

20 Mar 2007 at 23:06 - 148

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I strongly doubt there will be character import from GW1 to GW2.

I didn't think it would make much sense to move characters from a 5 year old game [which GWs will be by release of GW2]to a new an improved and most likely completely different game.
But with your track record for predictions I think it's a gimme now that you will be able to do this

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

20 Mar 2007 at 23:07 - 149

Great news!!

I don't know why people are so worried about the level cap being raised. It'll be harder than ever to level up. Think about it. Even fighting all lv20 or higher foes it takes an hour or two of constant grind to gain 1 level and you have to gain the same amount of experience to get to 20 every time. If the leveling is the same in GW2 it could take weeks to gain a level once you pass the 50's. It would be nice if we could get retroactive levels. People who played from the beginning would be in the 50's at least! *lol* I suddenly have a picture of a level 55 55 Monk. The cute bunheaded kind. :P

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

20 Mar 2007 at 23:07 - 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Knight

OK this information is very good.
New races, dungeons, World vs World

......
I am fan of Gw but i have two questions for ppl on the forum but especally Gaile:
1. When i first heard about Gw2 my first in my mind question was:''Can we transfer our Gw1 chars to Gw2?'' Every day i am expecting this info from mag posted on forum. I live in Croatia and i can't buy those UK magazines. So pls Gaile ask your partners

if we can transfer our chars. And i read one post here somewhere about that we will can show our titles, minies but no stuff. I read that so don't answer me with that post

2. I have let's say, a little old computer. I am worryied about what Requirements will be needed. I know that this year i will buy a new computer, but in 2 years there will be new processors with X.Ghz and X Gb RAM and i don't need to question graphics

P.S.sorry for any gramatical mistake

Nope.

In 2 years, Hell yeah. For ultimate performance anyway.

Grammar isn't TOO bad my guildie, but spelling is a little atrocious. I fixed some errors in my edition. It's a little easier read.

Ms. Gray, Are you saying the level cap is cosmetic? if so, Why not just make it a title? people will likely not want to do anything with a level 20, but would do anything with a level 100, even if the difference is cosmetic. All I see coming is discrimination.

Innit

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 23:07 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I really don't see how having a higher level cap equates to "grinding." Seriously -- I've played games with caps, without caps, with caps that the devs raised over the years, and everything in between.

As a gamer, I think I sort of like the ability to get higher numbers, even if it only shows my investment, my time spent in the game. Now, surely it's true that someone may have lots of lower-level characters, and that player may have achieved more and know more about the game than a player with a single high-level character. It's not, in my opinion, anything like, "My level 50 is 'better' than your level 20." Or, "I'm all that because I was the first to reach Level X."

I just sort of like that feeling of having been around for a while, or "veterancy." It sort of ties in with how much I like the Divine Aura, and the birthday presents, and the first year's Halloween items and with the fact they're only owned by those of us who were here, 'way back then. Each of those things seem to show a history, and for some, that's a very cool thing.

I'm going to have to stop you there, Ms Gray. Some of us enjoy the fact that you've managed the level cap, you've reached max stats - the pressure of getting to the top is gone, and you can play the game at your own leisurely pace - which is why I love Guild Wars. But when you set the bar so high, you can get that immense feeling of unaccomplishment every time you log off without achieving that best.

To sum it up, as long as I know that the level cap is still there, it's going to bother me.

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

20 Mar 2007 at 23:07 - 152

As i sayed this lvl caping for me is very intresting

something new in Gw

But still ahve question about traveling characters from Gw1 to Gw2

pls any answer Gaile

EDIT:Ty ret on answer.
Btw you from NDR?

i didn t noticed that lol
Sorry m8ty

Lonk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gwonline Guild [GWO]

N/R

20 Mar 2007 at 23:08 - 153

The only sad part of this news is the delay on getting my hands on GW:EN and GW2.

I seriously could not be more pleased with this info unless purchase of the game somehow came with free pizza for life.

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

20 Mar 2007 at 23:09 - 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by danyjr

To be very honest with you all, the only reason I may buy GW2 will be because it is free to play. Otherwise I'm not gonna pay all my money for a grindfest PvE game, cause I'VE ALREADY PLAYED ONE FOR 2+ YEARS.

Thanks for killing Guild War's PvP. I thought PvP was the reason why GW was so famous?

Sounds like the level thing will be purely cosmetic. I don't see the problem with leveling further if it doesn't give you any actual advantages, and they've already said GvG will remain the same, all players will remain on an even playing field, nobody will have an unfair "grind advantage".

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

20 Mar 2007 at 23:09 - 155

This is an FYI right now. We are doing an official thread for this on Guru and this thread will be closed in a short time as we develop and come out with information.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

20 Mar 2007 at 23:10 - 156

Quote:

Originally Posted by
Gaile Gray

As a gamer, I think I sort of like the ability to get higher numbers, even if it only shows my investment, my time spent in the game. Now, surely it's true that someone may have lots of lower-level characters, and that player may have achieved more and know more about the game than a player with a single high-level character. It's not, in my opinion, anything like, "My level 50 is 'better' than your level 20." Or, "I'm all that because I was the first to reach Level X."

So far I have heard nothing but good things from you guys at Anet..I am really overjoyed that from what I'm hearing guild wars PvE will live up to its true potential..Anet I congratulate you heartily, even though it seemingly took you guys a while to come to your senses

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

20 Mar 2007 at 23:10 - 157

Will our character names be able to transfer over to Guild Wars 2? The last thing I want is for all my favorite character names to be stolen (it's bad enough that I can't bring them over).

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

20 Mar 2007 at 23:11 - 158

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retribution X

From the current info, Yes, transfering from GW1 to GW2 is positive, No word on other way.

Proof? I see no evidence, and no info good enough to extrapolate.

Scown-dog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada-nuff said

Peace Machine Grrr [DiE]-with Kanwulf until I feel the boot

W/N

20 Mar 2007 at 23:12 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixdartbart

I didn't think it would make much sense to move characters from a 5 year old game [which GWs will be by release of GW2]to a new an improved and most likely completely different game.

Well I think it would great sense. Anet seems to have a thing with commitement-Bday items, titles, the new GvG system, maintaining the divine aura......seems it would be sorta out of the blue, and unexpected, if they changed their ways.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

20 Mar 2007 at 23:12 - 160

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

No monthly fees.
I have to say it.
Tell your friends.
Inform your neigbors.
Put your guild on alert.

No.
Monthly.
Fees.

first of all i am known here as a Gaile/Anet fanboi defender.

it looks like the enquirer hit the nail on all the IMPORTANT points.

Gaile said some was wrong and quite a bit misleading.

if the important points are correct i think it is misleading to give the impression that most was not correct.

no fee??????????........i will wait and see......with a big grain of salt........sorry Gaile