PC Gamer May 2007 Information - "Guild Wars Reborn"

Originally Posted by Gui

they are making a new game ?


HOW ABOUT FIXING THE OLD ONES FIRST SO WE CAN PLAY THEM NORMALY ????


how dare they work on a new game while the old ones still need working on and by that i don't mean screwing up skills and messing up builds but acctualy fixing something that needs fixing god damit !!

Originally Posted by I Lime I

Will it still be monthly free ?

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

No monthly fees.
I have to say it.
Tell your friends.
Inform your neigbors.
Put your guild on alert.

No.
Monthly.
Fees.

Originally Posted by Dalmascan Princess

@ Ruby Lightheart:
On the one hand, you say they have no right of even calling the game GW2, but on the other hand you say not beeing able to transfer your character into a completely different game is a "slap in the face". Isn't that just a little inconsistent?

You also complain about the increased level cap. I have to admitt that I'm somewhat weary about it myself, but we don't know what will change with that: Have you considert the fact that the higher levels might be just for "cosmetic" reasons and add little to no advantages? I think we shouldn't jump to conlusions at this stage.

Gwen will be in GW:EN, not in GW2, so you needn't worry about that either.

Originally Posted by Inde

New!

Clearing Up Misconceptions

~ Credit to ChaoticCoyote

Yes, I've read the article. No, I won't post any pictures or direct quotes, but I can say this:

1) The article emphasizes, over and over again (to the point of absurdity!), that there will be no monthly fee, or hidden fees. They even talk about how no one believes them when they say it! There will *not* be a monthly fee for GW2.

2) Some people are seriously confusing GW:EN with GW2. For example, Gwen appears in GW:EN, not GW2. Gwen, by the way, is dressed in a green outfit with Mesmer overtones; I doubt she's become a fire ele.

3) ANet states emphatically that they know some people will stay with GW1, and they will support GW1 past the opening of GW2. This includes the release of GW:EN *and* additional events and updates. So all the sackcloth-and-ashes stuff about GW1 "dying" is nonsense.

4) The new races will be NPCs in GW:EN and player characters in GW2. In GW2, they will have racial traits, so a Norn will be different from a Sylvari. No news about professions; my *GUESS* is they will revert to the original six classes in general. I'd prefer a classless system, but hey...

5) Instances have *not* gone away; however, the world will be persistent in some fashion. The article notes that ANet intends to avoid the kill camping/loot stealing problem, though it is unspecific as to how. At this juncture, I suspect ANet is still experimenting.

6) Richard Garriott's recent "clarification" (see the front page of Guild Wars Guru) is, in fact, a reaction to the PCGamer article, wherein they attribute certain statements to him. Garriott has disavowed such statements, and I suspect a PCGamer reporter took something out of context. Garriott has always been a strong supporter of Guild Wars in the interviews he's given.

As a programmer with some experience in the gaming field, I understand what ANet is doing. It may very well be that many of the features people are begging for CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED in the current engine. Adding a Z-axis, for example, means a major rewrite of the engine and significant changes to game balance and design. It may sound easy to do "X", but if you haven't written 100k-line programs, you probably have no idea of the complexities involved.

I *STRONGLY* urge people to read the PCGamer article before wildly speculating and posting rants that have no basis in fact. Of course, the nay-sayers and doom-seekers will continue to see the negative in everything, so I'm probably wasting my time here...

Just a note: This post will continue to be updated with Developer quotes and more to keep the information all in one place and to get it to you quickly. Please check back to this first post frequently for updates.

Originally Posted by Goreman

When is this comin out? I must KNO!!!

ty for your time

Originally Posted by Droven

And I don't get why i need to get "Eye of the North" Expansion to get some benefits to my future character ? Even I have all 3 campaings ? (btw i think i'll get EN but just being curious)

Thanks

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Mordakai, I thought GW:EN is Chapter 4?

Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Mordakai, I thought GW:EN is Chapter 4?

Originally Posted by czymann

And still people are comparing GW2 to WOW. The Anet team left Blizzard for a reason folks. Anet did not like the way Blizzard was taking WOW. So why would Anet make another WOW clone? You people make no sense at all. How about having some faith in Anet who has created a game we all love to play, before you start bashing a game that no one knows more than 1/10th of what we have heard. Would be smarter to just wait and see instead of making Doom and Gloom posts. Please stop with the GW2/WOW comparisons because you are only making yourselves look foolish.

Originally Posted by David Spooky

Okay, I have a question for Gaile and the Devs. One that I seriously want answered:

What the hell were you guys thinking in releasing vague as hell info about GW2 at the same time as EN? This entire thread turned into a GW2 bitch/fanboy wankfest, with little to no talk on EN. You should just fire your PR team or something because now the details on a game that isn't comming out for at least two years is overshadowing an expansion that comes out at the end of this year.

Seriously, I want an answer. Post said answer here or PM it to me because this is bugging the hell out of me to no end on how inexperienced of a move this was.

-David Spooky

Originally Posted by Mordakai

The reason they announce Guild Wars 2 is in order to explain why there will be no more Chapters! If they just announced, "Well, all that's coming out this year is an Expansion with no new classes" we'd all be up in arms!

Originally Posted by Longasc

The reason I play GW is that I can play together with my friends.

5-10 levels difference in a level based game - byebye, level up, you are useless weight. It is also total against the GW philosophy of balance and skill over grind.


But I got PC Gamer and read the whole article

Originally Posted by Pandora's box

I'm really amazed about the reactions. Now, use your imagination and suppose... JUST SUPPOSE:

This is about Diablo II LOD. Now there is this announcement that in autumn a new expansion will be released AND that Diablo III will be out in 2009... What would be the reaction of the diablo community??

Originally Posted by wetsparks

Another thought about probably why ANET decided to make an expansion and then an all new game. It is to hard to balance three games, let alone four, for pvp play. Having all the new skills with every new chapter made it harder and harder to foresee what will be abused and how

Originally Posted by David Spooky

You know how the saying goes - "I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it."

Originally Posted by mystwillow

I also am not a fan of the high/limitless level idea. Now, I have enough faith in Anet to not believe they will keep giving attribute points and health and energy past level 20 or so, because that is against their philosophy. I can, however, see them making it so that you gain power until level 20, and then all you gain is another level, another notch on your belt. That fits perfectly with what Gaile was saying about the idea being to show off seniority. Right now, you can kind of see your own seniority when you look at your skill points (unless you buy crazy tons of skills), but no one else can. I see this as basically wearing your skill points next to your name. Now, I know the idea of this is to reward the "veterans" and to simply be a superficial way to show off having been around for a while, and the "grind" in the traditional sense will not be necessary per se because after level 20 you won't gain any power. However, even a superficial difference can make or break you in PvE as far as getting into a group. How many times have you shouted, "Stupid noob!" at some Mo/E casting meteor shower? You might have kept him out of your group if you knew he was so inexperienced, but hey, he's level 20 so you reall y can't tell. In the new game, I can easily see group leaders in PvE advertising "GLF more for master's, lvl 50 and above only." Sure, a level 50 won't have any more power than a lvl 20, but at least with the 50 you know he's played a heck of a lot more than a 20 and has a better chance of knowing what he's doing. Identifying newbies may seem like a good thing, but good luck trying to get into a group if you don't have enough experience. The beauty of the game now is that noobs do get into groups even though they're inexperienced, because people have no quantifiable means to discriminate against them. Therefore, while you may not need to grind to acheive max power, massive leveling will still eventually become necessary to be accepted as a competent player. Wow, that got way longer than I thought it would. Just my two cents...

Originally Posted by sevosane

Most, if not all, of you are saying, don't jump to conclusions, don't make an opinion until you see it, yada, yada, yada.

What I know, which is absolutely 100% fact, right at this very second is this ->

They have agreed to NO longer make campaigns every 6 months as they stated they would do for this world that they have created.

For this reason, and this reason alone, I will NOT be buying, or be supporting at all their GuildWars 2 game.

The major reason I got involved with this fantasy world was because I was promised that every 6 months that I WOULD get NEW content. That there would be NEW stories, and NEW everything. That was attractive to me. That was THE reason I decided to lose myself in GuildWars. And now, that all equates to basically, one big, fat, lie.

I, along with many, many, others, will not be supporting your new endeavor.

18 months from now, you're just going to break the promises you are making right now anyway, just like you have just done with no longer making 6 month campaigns.

Unbelievable.