[Dev Update] Razah, Questing, & You

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wetsparks
wetsparks
Desert Nomad
#81
This is nice I guess, a Rit hero would be cool, but frankly he would sit right next to Goren, Zenmai, and other heros that I never use.
lennymon
lennymon
Forge Runner
#82
Well to all of you who feel like you are losing money since you all bought gemstones for razah, you did, as soon as you bought the gemstones. You knew you would too, but fortunately you all know it was a price you were willing to pay gladly! I've been earning them (albeit far more slowly) and having fun learning to meet the challenges of the elite areas. I may have been able to sell the gems I've used for more earlier, but since they were all drops or trade ups OF drops, they all are pure profit.

GG Anet for making Razah more accessible, but dont you think that this WILL ruin the elite area's economy? That economy established by folks who wanted the Razah Hero and either couldn't/didn't want to invest the time to get the stones themselves....
This announcement takes a big chunk out of the motivation for folks to play the mission (that being greed ). Which is very sad, because after having played through it a few times, I've come to enjoy the area. It's too bad it might turn into another desolate wasteland. Perhaps if there was a more reasonable return for gambling (coffers) or a lower cost for armbraces yet again. Of course now that I think about it, IF the prices of gemstones *do* drop, then the armbrace price is technically lower... so nvm that one ;P

Oh, man, Razah RULES setup as a MM ;>
flipfly2004
flipfly2004
Krytan Explorer
#83
all are glad but roughly im NOT!

i got my razah only with heroes and hench so first: IT AINT THAT HARD!!!!

second: due to the fact that not many people were able to get him... razah became a symbol of leetness! its just like making tormented weapons a normal loot for christ sake!!!

i maybe exaggerating but i feel insulted that something i worked hard for wud be ruined just like that!!!


here's my suggestion:

how about giving razah an additional name like "razah the wise" for those who attained him the hard way???? at least the leetnes remains -.-"
cellardweller
cellardweller
Likes naked dance offs
#84
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloodrose
It was 1 of each gemstone to get razah, 15 of each to get an Armbrace of Truth.
Hero unlocks are not per account. It costs 10 of each gem to make him available for each profession.
Thom Bangalter
Thom Bangalter
Grindin'
#85
So I saw dev update, and I got PUMPED.

Finally, I thought, they were fixing soul reaping. OR! perhaps the jade isle fix was going to go live. Perhaps there was an upcoming balance change being announced now that the celestial tournament is almost over.

Instead, I can now get a ritualist hero more readily.

thanks?
Damus
Damus
Krytan Explorer
#86
I don't think you'll have any complaints on this one! GG!
strcpy
strcpy
Desert Nomad
#87
Quote:
Originally Posted by flipfly2004
all are glad but roughly im NOT!

i got my razah only with heroes and hench so first: IT AINT THAT HARD!!!!
I would be quite interested as to how you accomplished this as hench are not available in the DoA so kinda hard to hench those gemstones.

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second: due to the fact that not many people were able to get him... razah became a symbol of leetness! its just like making tormented weapons a normal loot for christ sake!!!
So it is an easiy to obtain hard to get symbol of leetness? I suppose this is pretty much the same thing as henching in the DoA? You need to pick one and stay with it - hard or easy?

I could purchase the stones, I have more than enough gold, but there are many who play the game that do not and probably will not. I generally didn't feel he was worth the gold but had I been able to hench I most likely would have gotten enough gemstones by now and had him. Hopefully the new quests will be henchable (or at least allow me to use the henchman and try to figure out a way to do it instead of just making them unavailable) - I mean lets face it it would still fit their description if his quest required you to beat Mallyx first (I think they *do* mean they made it easier, but we still do not know how much easier).
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Well99
Frost Gate Guardian
#88
Thank you for listening to the players Gaile.I know I appreciate it.
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kitsune23
Academy Page
#89
Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
but dont you think that this WILL ruin the elite area's economy? That economy established by folks who wanted the Razah Hero and either couldn't/didn't want to invest the time to get the stones themselves....
This announcement takes a big chunk out of the motivation for folks to play the mission (that being greed ). Which is very sad, because after having played through it a few times, I've come to enjoy the area. It's too bad it might turn into another desolate wasteland. Perhaps if there was a more reasonable return for gambling (coffers) or a lower cost for armbraces yet again. Of course now that I think about it, IF the prices of gemstones *do* drop, then the armbrace price is technically lower... so nvm that one ;P
I'd think that people getting coffers and saving towards armbraces far outweighed the number of people buying gems to get Razah so the impact of gems from refunds will likely be minimal. The pople I know with Razah will probably just go for a coffer for a chance at a Mallyx mini rather than sell the gems anyways.
Exoudeous
Exoudeous
Wilds Pathfinder
#90
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damus
I don't think you'll have any complaints on this one! GG!
nah, people will find a reson to complain about anything, and if you read, sadly there are people complaining.


On topic: I told my alliance yesterday right after i go razah that they would probably make him easier after i finally got him. Normally, i would be pissed off right now. Not because other people can get him now, I dont care about leetness, i just wanted a rit hero.

No I would have been pissed because i had already used my gemstones. but since they are refunding me, its all cool. Because now i have razah AND can waste some gems on a coffer.
lennymon
lennymon
Forge Runner
#91
Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
I would be quite interested as to how you accomplished this as hench are not available in the DoA so kinda hard to hench those gemstones.
since the quest to get Razah starts from gate of abaddon, wenches(er sorry, henches) are available...


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Originally Posted by kitsune23
I'd think that people getting coffers and saving towards armbraces far outweighed the number of people buying gems to get Razah so the impact of gems from refunds will likely be minimal. The pople I know with Razah will probably just go for a coffer for a chance at a Mallyx mini rather than sell the gems anyways.
Hope yer right my friend... but its all relative as far as prices go, more worried about fewer people there I guess.
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The Bloodrose
Academy Page
#92
Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
Hero unlocks are not per account. It costs 10 of each gem to make him available for each profession.
Most people I know play 3-4 characters. And only one is their main. I know for one I only got him on my main. For I hardly play my other 4. But if some people want to have him on all "10" characters, then they should have to pay for him as we all did. Anet doesn't force you to play 10 characters, therefore they shouldn't have to bend over to your bitching.

"Oh noes, I play so many characters that I can't have the Rit hero on all of them. Anet should treat me differently because I play every class."
flipfly2004
flipfly2004
Krytan Explorer
#93
Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
I would be quite interested as to how you accomplished this as hench are not available in the DoA so kinda hard to hench those gemstones.



So it is an easiy to obtain hard to get symbol of leetness? I suppose this is pretty much the same thing as henching in the DoA? You need to pick one and stay with it - hard or easy?

I could purchase the stones, I have more than enough gold, but there are many who play the game that do not and probably will not. I generally didn't feel he was worth the gold but had I been able to hench I most likely would have gotten enough gemstones by now and had him. Hopefully the new quests will be henchable (or at least allow me to use the henchman and try to figure out a way to do it instead of just making them unavailable) - I mean lets face it it would still fit their description if his quest required you to beat Mallyx first (I think they *do* mean they made it easier, but we still do not know how much easier).
sry not to have made it clear but what i meant was i hero henched the dungeon where razah was - not DOA due to the fact that uhm.... there are no henchies in DOA?

who said that i purchased the gemstones? i cant remember to have written them...

ah well it doesnt matter anymore... it not as if i cud redo anet's decision
Hell Raiser
Hell Raiser
Forge Runner
#94
agreed with The Bloodrose on the fact that you shouldn't have him on 10 characters (and if you have enough time to play 10 characters through Nightfall and having no main... Wow, just wow.).

I have 3 main characters, they are my Tyria born Monk, War, and Necro and I have Razah on my monk only. I realize that most people have different playing styles, but if you play 10 characters and really want him on all of them you should have to earn each one. I hardly consider only completing NF (as you normally would, if you had 10main characters) enough work.
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Randomway Ftw
Krytan Explorer
#95
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter
So I saw dev update, and I got PUMPED.

Finally, I thought, they were fixing soul reaping. OR! perhaps the jade isle fix was going to go live. Perhaps there was an upcoming balance change being announced now that the celestial tournament is almost over.

Instead, I can now get a ritualist hero more readily.

thanks?
Anet completely ignoring PvP makes me want to:

T
The Bloodrose
Academy Page
#96
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoudeous
nah, people will find a reson to complain about anything, and if you read, sadly there are people complaining.


On topic: I told my alliance yesterday right after i go razah that they would probably make him easier after i finally got him. Normally, i would be pissed off right now. Not because other people can get him now, I dont care about leetness, i just wanted a rit hero.

No I would have been pissed because i had already used my gemstones. but since they are refunding me, its all cool. Because now i have razah AND can waste some gems on a coffer.
And thats why we are in this position in the first place. People bitched he was too hard to get, yet people still kept getting him. So anet gave into the complaints that he was too hard to get. And now we know anet gives it to players bitching and crying.

I still say the players that had already gotten him(weither they payed or farmed the gemstones) should have their Razah updated in some way. Different armor, different title. Something to show the effort and time some people went through to get him. I could care less about the gem refund. The gems I spent are worth less then what I paid now anyways.
cellardweller
cellardweller
Likes naked dance offs
#97
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloodrose
Most people I know play 3-4 characters. And only one is their main. I know for one I only got him on my main. For I hardly play my other 4. But if some people want to have him on all "10" characters, then they should have to pay for him as we all did. Anet doesn't force you to play 10 characters, therefore they shouldn't have to bend over to your bitching.

"Oh noes, I play so many characters that I can't have the Rit hero on all of them. Anet should treat me differently because I play every class."
Perhaps you should read your own post and then say who is "bitching" - if you choose to experience a small fraction of the game, thats your choice. The fact is that if there are 10 primary classes (and for the record I don't know anyone that has less that 8 characters) each of which requires a set of gemstones.

Anet has seen the error in their original decision and have reverted it - hence the rejoicing.
Exoudeous
Exoudeous
Wilds Pathfinder
#98
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloodrose
And thats why we are in this position in the first place. People bitched he was too hard to get, yet people still kept getting him. So anet gave into the complaints that he was too hard to get. And now we know anet gives it to players bitching and crying.

I still say the players that had already gotten him(weither they payed or farmed the gemstones) should have their Razah updated in some way. Different armor, different title. Something to show the effort and time some people went through to get him. I could care less about the gem refund. The gems I spent are worth less then what I paid now anyways.
no i was refering to the fact that no matter what anet does some one will complain about it. most of it had to do with the fact that doing DoA isnt all that compelling. im sure more people would have him if doa had better benifits.

I really dont think he should be hard to get since he is the only rt hero.

unlike you, I dont care about the leetness of things. I got fissure cause i liked the look, not cause it was hard. And i got razah cause i wanted a rit, not becaue it was hard to do.
rohara
rohara
Krytan Explorer
#99
sweet! been wanting razah for a long time but wasn't about to pay or farm for a hero. not that i don't have the money, its just the principle of the matter - all the other heroes are quest rewards, and razah should be no different. if he were special in some way, i'd pay...but he's not, he's just a plain old ritualist.

those who are angry about the price drop of gems...you can't blame anet for that, as players dictate the price of rare items. they are giving you a 100% refund, in gem form. if you bought them gems, that's your problem. the price drop was a natural occurence as more people finish NF every day and more people go to DoA, thus more gems are available and thus they become cheaper. that's not a bad thing. and spending 100k on a hero doesn't make you 1337.
flipfly2004
flipfly2004
Krytan Explorer
#100
what about this:

many people complain that tormented weapons are hard to get just like razah -.-" would anet make those items random loots in DOA

i guess not!