Assassin Hate... Why?

SPBoA ftl, APBoA ftw. Well actually, unless your playing at FA, AB, JQ, APBoA fails pretty badly compared to SPBoA (Amazing isn't it, for once SPBoA is the lesser of 2 evils), Because, APBoA normals uses AP, Shadow step, 4 skill combo, BoA, res. Which is ok, but very weak against blocking, where as SPBoA uses SP, Expose defences, BoA, combo, res. SPBoA has more room for that other hex or selfheal where as APBoA does not (unless it's AB in which you replace res sig)

Warriors can spike.
Sins can spike better, faster, and harder. GG.

Sins CAN cause heavy edenial. (damn, -1 energy regen from wither HAX!)

They can spread conditions like malaria in africa. GG. (Fevered dreams?)

They can tank. (Flashing blades, Crit defenses, Vital Boon mystic regen anyone?)

They can attack at range (not pure sin, but kay. Crit Barrage)

Now STFU about sins that suck. How come that BoA/SP is the current Meta? It's GG Leetsauce. Kthx.

Edit: Anyone to bring up that they all use skills from a different profession, STFU. Warriors use mending too. Sins do more than just spike...the problem is that whatever build you give them drastically limits their capabilities, whereas a warrior can still be rather useful if you need to improvise.

If we're talking about pvp (gvg in particular, I don't count arenas or HA as anything really worth a comparison) then condition spam won't do nearly enough against purge signets and extinguish.

Sins can't tank, you don't get the luxury of having the perfect math translate into the perfect real data, you get people who still hit through the evades multiple times, armor-ignoring spells, and just high-damage spells in general. The Warrior has the armor to take the hits (barring armor-ignoring spells, which screw everyone over) and the high damage spells, making it a more appealing tank. You also don't have to perfectly tailor its every aspect to damage absorbtion, whereas you have to do so with the assassin.

Sins aren't ranged fighters, the crit barrager isn't nearly as effective as a barrage ranger (aoe bleed isn't as good as 16 marks, not relying on crit, and being able to use +damage enchantments like conjure flame along with mark of rodgort, which will do aoe burn), they are best at a quick kill.

The BoA/SP sin is currently the meta due to the lack of skill on the part of monks and rangers. The monks aren't removing Expose Defenses/SP soon enough or using a blocking skill, and the rangers are often not skilled enough to interrupt the combo. Again though, you'll find most of these flaws outside of gvg. BoA doesn't have condition removal, that's far from leetsauce.

Using skills from a different profession is actually a good thing, the problem is in the way that the sin has to rely on them. To use the crit barrager as an example, the assassin *must* take the ranger secondary profession, whereas the ranger is free to take a multitiude of different secondaries that allow them to maximize dps output.

Most good warriors don't use mending.

Well actually, unless your playing at FA, AB, JQ, APBoA fails pretty badly compared to SPBoA (Amazing isn't it, for once SPBoA is the lesser of 2 evils), Because, APBoA normals uses AP, Shadow step, 4 skill combo, BoA, res. Which is ok, but very weak against blocking, where as SPBoA uses SP, Expose defences, BoA, combo, res. SPBoA has more room for that other hex or selfheal where as APBoA does not (unless it's AB in which you replace res sig) Thats just my personal preference xD I use a very different build in PvP, I don't touch the A/W profession as I know ill get a monk on the other side putting guardian on every enemy soon as the battle starts. The build I currently use is a different kind of AP spiker, and it tends to kill... pretty much anything Even got an earth tank with it the other day!

NOONE is meant to 1v1. 1v1 is the most retarded form of combat in the game. If you know what the other person if going to be using and have time to prepare before battle, whats the point? GW is all about being able to face any kind of foe that comes at you, not fighting in 1 on 1 duels. I agree. For some reason the officers of my guild think that winning at 1 vs 1 makes them uber l33t. Wow, using a warrior to beat down my poor necro in a 1 vs 1, what an accomplishment.

So people who wear 1.5K are noobs? Assassin's who don't wear ascended armor happen to be the types that don't use the class wisley. Not all the time but 88%/100% of the time.

The ones that usually wears 15K to Vabbian happen to atleast play then with a better sense of dignity...to the points monks aren't feeling they wasted all there energy trying to save the oblivious and suicidal assassin.

for as wrong as she may sound, its the best solution in wiether deciding if an assassin should be accepted or cut. Dervishes are also about to stand right next to them too. Anyone notice how most of the new dervishes that reached the gate of pain die fast cause they still wear their unruned starter armor, but that's for another thread.

high end armor = farmer.
high end armor =/= good player.

if high end armor meant anything, then we'd have a hoard of rockin wammos in this game. every other warrior is in FoW, 15k Primeval, or 15k Kurz.

skill bar > armor on the quality detection meter. Agreed

I have several suits of armor for different builds, I can not afford all high end armor. and with the runs being bought and the money being bought off website anyone can get high end armor with out even playing much at all.
I know a guy who has no clue about the game nor about anything other than farming... sure hes rich but will I take him into battle with me during endgame missions? No way! to get high end armor all ones needs to do is farm and farm and farm they dont need to know their build nor know the skills they use (yes the high end farmers know their build and skills but not all farmers are high end farmers) some will just go and farm outside Lions Arch over and over and over again, get a run to droks get armor and then farm more never even thinking about learning the game nor the skills that come with it. And for the end game Faction or Nightfall armor many just find a good group that will carry them there, (if not buy one) or pug and pug and pug till they get it... farmers are a pacent group of people.... Armor does not show the ablity of a player.

My arguement is not that your a noob (but you might be), but that your very VAIN (Which is one of the 7 deadly sins and what not). I know about elitists, and I know that it's attitudes like yours that cause it.

"You don't have 15K armor, you noob."
"You don't have xx rank, you noob."
"You don't have (whatever), you noob."

Just accept that no one decent agrees with your "Armor = skill" Views. As far as I care, your just one of the elitests that cause the problems for those who just wanna have fun. Assassin 15k armor means you've actually played the game to get that far, and didn't get run, Which means you might know the class better than some new player.

But apart from that, armor means nothing.

That's true, but getting to the point where you assume someone without 15K armor isn't good, is just sad. Exactly correct. I buy the armor style I like most, no matter the cost. I like 1.5K kurz until NF. I'd hate to think I was a noob because I didn't like any 15K armors...

My arguement is not that your a noob (but you might be), but that your very VAIN (Which is one of the 7 deadly sins and what not). I know about elitists, and I know that it's attitudes like yours that cause it.

"You don't have 15K armor, you noob."
"You don't have xx rank, you noob."
"You don't have (whatever), you noob."

Just accept that no one decent agrees with your "Armor = skill" Views. As far as I care, your just one of the elitests that cause the problems for those who just wanna have fun.

Wanna know another reason why I hate you Flux? Because you act like an idiot 16 year old yourself, last time I saw you, twas in an AB match, dispite your team losing you went on showing on how you "owned us" Dispite you ultimatly losing(I don't forget things easily). It really sounds like your better than the normal assassin (sarcasim by the way)

In conclustion, your no better than them W/Mos in FoW armor with req 8 crystalline swords who flash a deer in your face and deny others opinions just cause they don't look as good as you. Something that is truely loathesome. [email protected] lol I didn't have to predict this from coming. no wonder why no one can take you serious. when you can't get your facts straight, you lie.

I haven't ab'd in a long time and if I have you couldn't recall if I was a kurzick or luxon.

now lets talk some truth about you. clearly you like the assassin as the rest of us, but you aren't rich enough to try and get what you want. could you're jealously get any louder. I can tell you get rejected and blamed at from many teams and this idea of armor discrimination would be the cherry on top of your cake, just based off your comments.

Vain or not, atleast I can speak the truth. if I wasn't a thread like this wouldn't be created.

so sadly yeah, armor discrimination for the assassin could be the only way to go to prevent a time bomb such as yourself on the team.

for me to not to favor the boa sin and actually have some non core pves, I'm definitely not an elitist.

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