The Chestrunners Thread
AndrewSX
I knew stats were preset before iding: didn't knew they already works. :P
Bright Star Shine
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I knew stats were preset before iding: didn't knew they already works. :P
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Got a q10 +5e Dadao by the way
onerabbit
Haha! yeh, i totally forgot about Equipping, i've forgot more than i've learned about this game in the past 6 years =p
Rollin
Today i read this on wiki:
Explorable area
Silent Surf
WoC quest
Cleansing the Silent Surf
After quest completion
Afflicted replaced by empty space, with exception of mob near Assassin's Construct.
Does that mean when you have finished that Quest there won't be spawning any foes in silent surf?
Explorable area
Silent Surf
WoC quest
Cleansing the Silent Surf
After quest completion
Afflicted replaced by empty space, with exception of mob near Assassin's Construct.
Does that mean when you have finished that Quest there won't be spawning any foes in silent surf?
AndrewSX
Only the few Afflicted groups(and related chests), according to wiki.
Rollin
Are there still any Chestrunning Guilds outthere? :P
An can someone post a map of - Xaquang Skyway - Chest Run?
Thanks!
An can someone post a map of - Xaquang Skyway - Chest Run?
Thanks!
Glorg
God of Tempest
Just ran 84 picks on that Waijun route a page or two back with Seek Out Brother Tosai active in HM, everything I got was merchfood except for a major and superior vigor. Made ~30k off of other runes and the merchfood, but overall lost about 50k. Closest things to good items were a r13 15^50 Fellblade, an r13 water Platinum Staff with crap inherent, and a r9 bronze shield that was singlemod +57 while hexed. I'm slightly disappointed. 
DeVerseBakker
This chest''run'' probably already has been said sometime.
But in Shadow's passage there is a canthan / locked chest about 1.5 minutes in, then if you zone into bukdek byway without WoC active you can get a canthan / locked chest with afflicted around it.
one end has Jade brotherhood, the other has Afflicted
The foes are all level 20(NM obv), so if I read well on all these pages chances of q8 drops too =]
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Made a small mistake on the map, on the way from bukdek there is 1 extra chest which is non Plagueborn, so it's 3/4 chests is plagueborn from bukdek onwards
But in Shadow's passage there is a canthan / locked chest about 1.5 minutes in, then if you zone into bukdek byway without WoC active you can get a canthan / locked chest with afflicted around it.
one end has Jade brotherhood, the other has Afflicted
The foes are all level 20(NM obv), so if I read well on all these pages chances of q8 drops too =]
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Made a small mistake on the map, on the way from bukdek there is 1 extra chest which is non Plagueborn, so it's 3/4 chests is plagueborn from bukdek onwards
Rollin
So i started to note what drops i got from : Wajjun Bazaar
Here it is, ENJOY the crap
201 Lockpicks - Wajjun Bazaar (Hardmode)
Runs: 106
(31% Retention chance)
Retains: 68
Broken: 133
(Drops)
Golds : 139
Purple : 41
(Tomes) : 12
Normal : 7
Elite : 5
(Armor) : 76
Gold : 57
Purple : 19
(High-End):
Bladed Shield - q10 Tactics - DeepWoud20%, -2 dmg stanced
Spiked Targe - q11 Tactics - -2 dmg enchanced, Healing +1 19%^using skills
Sup Vigor
Sup Vigor
Fellblade - q12 Dmg+20% Hexed, Adrenaline 10%
Bo staff - q9 domi - purple -.-
The purple drops are a bit more, forgot to put some there
Here it is, ENJOY the crap
201 Lockpicks - Wajjun Bazaar (Hardmode)
Runs: 106
(31% Retention chance)
Retains: 68
Broken: 133
(Drops)
Golds : 139
Purple : 41
(Tomes) : 12
Normal : 7
Elite : 5
(Armor) : 76
Gold : 57
Purple : 19
(High-End):
Bladed Shield - q10 Tactics - DeepWoud20%, -2 dmg stanced
Spiked Targe - q11 Tactics - -2 dmg enchanced, Healing +1 19%^using skills
Sup Vigor
Sup Vigor
Fellblade - q12 Dmg+20% Hexed, Adrenaline 10%
Bo staff - q9 domi - purple -.-
The purple drops are a bit more, forgot to put some there
Our Blood
Hehe, I also quit running that place after a stack of picks 
I earned my money back (at 31% retention rate) but that's about it
Will probably still run it from time to time, it's a good distraction
I earned my money back (at 31% retention rate) but that's about it
Will probably still run it from time to time, it's a good distraction
God of Tempest
Yeah, I think I'll stick with Pongmei, especially considering I'm poor and can't really afford to go wasting oodles of money on picks.
Rollin
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Hehe, I also quit running that place after a stack of picks
I earned my money back (at 31% retention rate) but that's about it Will probably still run it from time to time, it's a good distraction |
Olle
Ferndale Vq gave me 2 Echovalds, 1 q10 str(VERY decent modded )
And a q12 tact, duo not worth mentioning mods
these were from chests,not foes.
)And a q12 tact, duo not worth mentioning mods
these were from chests,not foes.
AndrewSX
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Ferndale Vq gave me 2 Echovalds, 1 q10 str(VERY decent modded
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I thought that echos were more in morostav/melandru, and fernadale being mostly a Gothics realm tbh.
Olle
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It's the +10demons -2/e in sell atm? c/o 1100e...not badly modded at all. Gz.
I thought that echos were more in morostav/melandru, and fernadale being mostly a Gothics realm tbh. |
But yeah, people are saying that i should vq it again and again..but the chance for me to get another one.... doesnt exist...
And tbh im quite pleased with this
superraptors
anywhere is echovald can drop gothics and echovalds there is absolutely no specific area in which it can drop.
Glorg
DeVerseBakker => you forgot 2 possible brotherhood chest from bukdek byway
DeVerseBakker
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DeVerseBakker => you forgot 2 possible brotherhood chest from bukdek byway
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Today so far got 1 sup vigor and 2x major vigor rest is merchfood sadly Lol
God of Tempest
Is there a zodiac chest run for either Urgoz/Deep? I know there's rooms, but is there a way to consistently get to an area in one of them quickly where there's a chest?
Lawliet Kira
I don't know if anyone else does this run but i go from Maatu Keep down to the portal of Tanglewood Corpse. 95% of the time theres ALWAYS a chest there. I ran around 700-800 lockpicks there. I got my good fair share of echos, orantes, GotH's, and gothic defenders. Although they were all crap single mods. Run takes about a minute
Olle
^Pongmei valley is a very used run, i usually start from Boreas seabed, you can get 3-5 chests within 4-5minutes there.
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My guess would be to go kill 1 door in deep, and then rush in to see if theres anything, pick up /resign redo
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Is there a zodiac chest run for either Urgoz/Deep? I know there's rooms, but is there a way to consistently get to an area in one of them quickly where there's a chest?
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Lawliet Kira
Oh cool, because i only get like 1 chest every 1-2 minutes, thanks for the tip
superraptors
starting from boreas can get you much rarer skins from amfah and jade chests which can drop bo, dragon, platinum, iridescent aegis and diamond aegis aswell.
drkn
Quick questions to experts.
I'm interested in working on both Treasure Hunter and Wisdom simultaneously, so that rules out selling of the unid goldies.
Now, another thing i'd like to achieve, if possible, is not to lose too much money while running chests. Of course i'm aware that i would need to be extremely lucky to make substantial profit from chestrunning, especially when identifying everything. I just wouldn't want to lose my current assets (about 1000k) before getting very very close to max (i'm at about 3k chests now).
I want to use lockpicks rather than high-end keys because of the (Un)Lucky synergy.
I am not interested in making any profit to buy anything else but lockpicks, so all i want is just to keep chestrunning as much self-sustainable as possible. I'm already at r5 Lucky, so that's about 55% retention rate on NM EotN chests, which would help i guess.
I am not interested in any particular skins, or items for myself, or items to sell for hundreds of ectos (sure, i wouldn't mind mainly because it'd help me buy more picks!), as long as i can make more or less even via chestrunning while NOT selling unids.
Time is not a problem.
So, given all the above - is it even possible?
I'm asking here because i'm interested in opinions based on personal experience rather than pure theorycrafting. I'm aware that chestrunning is VERY much random, both in terms of costs (retention/breaking) and possible refunds (drops), but i'm asking whether my goal is even attainable without investing thousands upon thousands of platinum.
If my imaginations are sane enough for me to try them out, are there any pointers i should keep in mind? Like running NM or HM, running at certain locations/campaigns for highest possible stable gold income to alleviate the cost of broken picks, running with a certain profession and a certain build, using heroes (builds? just general ideas).
All you could throw at me.
I'm interested in working on both Treasure Hunter and Wisdom simultaneously, so that rules out selling of the unid goldies.
Now, another thing i'd like to achieve, if possible, is not to lose too much money while running chests. Of course i'm aware that i would need to be extremely lucky to make substantial profit from chestrunning, especially when identifying everything. I just wouldn't want to lose my current assets (about 1000k) before getting very very close to max (i'm at about 3k chests now).
I want to use lockpicks rather than high-end keys because of the (Un)Lucky synergy.
I am not interested in making any profit to buy anything else but lockpicks, so all i want is just to keep chestrunning as much self-sustainable as possible. I'm already at r5 Lucky, so that's about 55% retention rate on NM EotN chests, which would help i guess.
I am not interested in any particular skins, or items for myself, or items to sell for hundreds of ectos (sure, i wouldn't mind
mainly because it'd help me buy more picks!), as long as i can make more or less even via chestrunning while NOT selling unids.Time is not a problem.
So, given all the above - is it even possible?
I'm asking here because i'm interested in opinions based on personal experience rather than pure theorycrafting. I'm aware that chestrunning is VERY much random, both in terms of costs (retention/breaking) and possible refunds (drops), but i'm asking whether my goal is even attainable without investing thousands upon thousands of platinum.
If my imaginations are sane enough for me to try them out, are there any pointers i should keep in mind? Like running NM or HM, running at certain locations/campaigns for highest possible stable gold income to alleviate the cost of broken picks, running with a certain profession and a certain build, using heroes (builds? just general ideas).
All you could throw at me.
Reformed
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Treas.../Cost_analysis
Pretty extensive analysis...there is no "cheap" way to max treasure hunter while simultaneously obtaining a high ratio of golds for wisdom. If you switch to HM to increase the gold rate your retention drops and vice versa. The table also only takes into account initial cost without including what you make back through merching your unids, lucky drops, runes, tomes etc. etc. Not selling your unids also takes a bite out of your potential cost savings.
Pretty extensive analysis...there is no "cheap" way to max treasure hunter while simultaneously obtaining a high ratio of golds for wisdom. If you switch to HM to increase the gold rate your retention drops and vice versa. The table also only takes into account initial cost without including what you make back through merching your unids, lucky drops, runes, tomes etc. etc. Not selling your unids also takes a bite out of your potential cost savings.
onerabbit
I usually spend 100k on lockpicks, run them all in hardmode, try run areas with armors for quick cash back, tomes help getting your money back also, my retention rate is quite high these days, but back in the day i never struggled with getting money back from chest running, then again the items where worth more back then.
You'd still loose more than you make, but overall, you probably wont struggle as long as you pace yourself, making sure your getting enough money back from your first set of picks before buying your second set =)
I usually merch everything i get unless its worth 30k+ as it can be time consuming to sell ingame.
You'd still loose more than you make, but overall, you probably wont struggle as long as you pace yourself, making sure your getting enough money back from your first set of picks before buying your second set =)
I usually merch everything i get unless its worth 30k+ as it can be time consuming to sell ingame.
drkn
I know i won't escape losing money in the long run, unless i get some really nice drop or get sup runes and elite tomes from each chest, or i get extremely lucky and i won't break too many picks.
What i'm really asking for is all small tips that would minimise the long-term loss, so that for every 100k spent on lockpicks, i lose 10k in the end rather than 70k.
In terms of raw speed of running, i find Boreal Station being the best, however i'm not really experienced with many routes. What about the long-term costs?
What i'm really asking for is all small tips that would minimise the long-term loss, so that for every 100k spent on lockpicks, i lose 10k in the end rather than 70k.
In terms of raw speed of running, i find Boreal Station being the best, however i'm not really experienced with many routes. What about the long-term costs?
Zazael
The advantage of running Boreal HM is that you can get some nice tomes aswell as inscr/mods that can sell for quite a bit these days. This might be more reliable.
I personally prefer chestrunning in Cantha, where there's an equal if not better chest-to-time ratio's if you know where to go, and ofcourse the possibility of getting that xxx ecto drop.. The choice is yours.
EDIT: In addition to the above, Cantha chestrunning is very 'risky'. You may open thousands of chests without getting anything worthwhile. Or you can get a perf dualmod echovald shield or bo staff from your first chest, see it as a lottery.
I personally prefer chestrunning in Cantha, where there's an equal if not better chest-to-time ratio's if you know where to go, and ofcourse the possibility of getting that xxx ecto drop.. The choice is yours.
EDIT: In addition to the above, Cantha chestrunning is very 'risky'. You may open thousands of chests without getting anything worthwhile. Or you can get a perf dualmod echovald shield or bo staff from your first chest, see it as a lottery.
Reformed
My advice then would be to not concern yourself with wisdom at the moment. Run somewhere with the bare minimum for high-end (southern shiverpeaks, echovald, jade sea, vabbi) and run it in normal mode. I did mine in Witman's Folly a very long time ago now and while the gap on wisdom was substantial (3k or so) the overall cost to me could not have been much more than a million. My titles were approximately where yours are now when I started there as well. If you follow this up with raptor or vaettir farming for those unids wisdom costs you nothing and would actually further reduce the cost once you merch drops.
The Mountain
Run Hell's Precipice, KC areas (Am Fah easier to run with sin than Jade), and Echovald Forest....run all of these in HM. Between selling to the merch and selling tomes, you should be quite close to even over time. These areas also offer the opportunity for fabulous drops, of course. You can find runs for all these that are little less efficient than Boreal (some are more).
I've ran 20k chests, almost all in HM since I had 2500 chests opened.
I've ran 20k chests, almost all in HM since I had 2500 chests opened.
drkn
My concern regarding the Wisdom title meant only that i don't want to sell my unids to other people. I'm fine with running NM and getting mostly grapes if it's what it takes to keep the costs the lowest possible.
Thanks for the insight so far.
One more question. Is the drop rate of elite tomes affected by location - or does it seem so - or it doesn't matter where, as long as it's HM? I'm actually thinking about sticking to Boreal and checking whether it's better going NM (higher retention) or HM (possible elite tomes) to alleviate the costs.
Thanks for the insight so far.
One more question. Is the drop rate of elite tomes affected by location - or does it seem so - or it doesn't matter where, as long as it's HM? I'm actually thinking about sticking to Boreal and checking whether it's better going NM (higher retention) or HM (possible elite tomes) to alleviate the costs.
Bright Star Shine
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My concern regarding the Wisdom title meant only that i don't want to sell my unids to other people. I'm fine with running NM and getting mostly grapes if it's what it takes to keep the costs the lowest possible.
Thanks for the insight so far. One more question. Is the drop rate of elite tomes affected by location - or does it seem so - or it doesn't matter where, as long as it's HM? I'm actually thinking about sticking to Boreal and checking whether it's better going NM (higher retention) or HM (possible elite tomes) to alleviate the costs. |
Also, don't run Boreal. Some people tell you it's the best and fastest chest run around. They lie. It's not. Also, it doesn't pay back the way Cantha does. Unless you want to spend a lot of time selling 15^50's and +5e's for 1k a piece. In fact, Silent Surf is the fastest one -imo- regarding chest/time. When I used to run it, I would clock a solid 3:20 just about every time yielding 4-5 chests a lot. If I had to pull an average out of my ass, I'd say it's anywhere around 3,8 chests/run, maybe even a little more.
superraptors
you can make money from boreal but you will need atleast 30% retain in HM.
Run places where its armor heavy, runes pay back nicely, i agree with mountain on hells precipice although its a medium difficulty run, 50% of the drops are titan armors, which is extremely high.
Pongmei is also an excellent run for profit/time, 5 chests in 3-4 minutes is the average.
Run places where its armor heavy, runes pay back nicely, i agree with mountain on hells precipice although its a medium difficulty run, 50% of the drops are titan armors, which is extremely high.
Pongmei is also an excellent run for profit/time, 5 chests in 3-4 minutes is the average.
exploiter
I started running pongmei NM, got a few q8s already, however the wands always seem to be 11-21. wondering if its possible to drop q8 max one...
floodwig
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I started running pongmei NM, got a few q8s already, however the wands always seem to be 11-21. wondering if its possible to drop q8 max one...
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Bright Star Shine
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I'm pretty sure that only shields, focus, and swords are the only things that can still drop as max q8s... I may be wrong though
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thelessa
What is the best route for running chests in Pongmei? I have never run chests before, so any help would be appreciated.
Rice
Start from boreas and run in a full circle. i do clockwise and leave the afflicted areas last cause team can wipe easily there. dont worry about the middle there r no chest there
Lawliet Kira
wait a minute...you guys salvage your runes and sell to rune trader? Why haven't i ever done that -_____-