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LethalHands

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Join Date: Feb 2006

16 May 2007 at 19:41 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

What i meant by 'prior warning' is if they've become more strict with spammers then they should let people know via the welcome-screen message, forums, their own website, the Queen's Speech or some other medium.

I'm not excusing spammers but I reckon it would be considerate to declare a change of heart from ArenaNet's end. After all, spamming has been allowed for two years now.

Just because you poked the snake the first few times without incident, doesn't mean it won't come around and bite you the next time.

It's always been against the rules to spam. They don't owe anyone a damn thing it's the players responsibility to read and abide by the ToS. The sudden crack down and harsh punishment are good, for the general population that has to spam sales crap in all chat anyway (read; lazy, egoistic). I tend to agree with the folks saying one week. Three days is really rather light IMO, but Anet's always been conservative. Still... it might make some think twice about spamming all chat with trade stuff.

GG. If we're upping the crackdown on bots, let's clean up a little slime along the way.

Lucifer PVP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

W/Mo

16 May 2007 at 20:25 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by LethalHands

Just because you poked the snake the first few times without incident, doesn't mean it won't come around and bite you the next time.

It's always been against the rules to spam. They don't owe anyone a damn thing it's the players responsibility to read and abide by the ToS. The sudden crack down and harsh punishment are good, for the general population that has to spam sales crap in all chat anyway (read; lazy, egoistic). I tend to agree with the folks saying one week. Three days is really rather light IMO, but Anet's always been conservative. Still... it might make some think twice about spamming all chat with trade stuff.

GG. If we're upping the crackdown on bots, let's clean up a little slime along the way.

I hope they find that banning people is not the solution because the trade system is broke. Just make one town on bath island for trading. Give us the ability to post items we have for sale without having to type them out and provide a way for buyers to search what is being sold. similar to an auction house but both the seller and buyer have to be in this town.

Correct Jeans

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE!

Free Willzyx [MASA]

E/Me

16 May 2007 at 20:31 - 203

seriously. Why does anet ban people for spamming? they have a program that just doesnt let u talk for a minute if u spam too much. if anet has a problem with people spamming, then make the program respond to less posts. not ban people. there. problem solved, anet.

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

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16 May 2007 at 20:52 - 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Correct Jeans

seriously. Why does anet ban people for spamming? they have a program that just doesnt let u talk for a minute if u spam too much. if anet has a problem with people spamming, then make the program respond to less posts. not ban people. there. problem solved, anet.

That, my friend, makes too much sense. Why in the WORLD would anet look to a player for insight? Your idea is done with my friend.

Zappa

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Portugal.

16 May 2007 at 21:05 - 205

This ban is plain stupid.

Now they remember that spamming trade messages in general chat is a "bannable" offense?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

The randomness and inconsistencies that we're seeing makes me think that maybe this isn't automated, but perhaps the work of some overzealous moderators. Gaile's statement above sounds like she was as surprised as anyone and isn't sure what's going on, which shouldn't be the case if this was a planned update.

I agree with Woody.

IMHO, the ambiguity of Gaile's statement proves that something is wrong...

My guess is that these bans were either a mistake, or not about the 'spam' at all.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

16 May 2007 at 21:20 - 206

I don't get why he was banned for 72 hours.. i thought 48 hours would be enough a punishment?

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

16 May 2007 at 22:01 - 207

Maybe because 72 hours has seemed to make an impression.

Foe

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

16 May 2007 at 22:16 - 208

Im telling u guys there is a missing piece to the puzzle. Im wondering if GW has become a testing ground for possible GW2 systems. The recent updates and the said logic behind them are completely divorced from one another. If Anet wanted to get rid of the bots it could do so easily. "you buy ok" lol. Anets ingame presence has always been virtualy nonexsistent no matter what the pr ppl claim. The bots stick out like a sore thumb as do the humans that sell the lewt. If anet had even one person on the payroll whos job was to locate these ig they could ban these accounts faster than the botters could steal them. All of us have always known who and where they are..why doesnt anet? Something doesnt add up and if they are looking for methods to make it so unattractive for the bad guys that they go elsewhere i hope they succeed. Its just a shame gw pve had to crushed in the process. The fact is that the servers are emptying.
Last tuesday out of curiosity i went to every town/outpost in all 3 campaigns and not 1 had more than 1 district aside from LA, Kaineng, Kam,ToA. Maybe its been like that for awhile i dunno. Is what it is i guess. Of course i could be wrong but i think we are seeing one of the few draw backs of no monthly fee, their just not accountable to the players atm. But whatever, maybe this will lead to a great product in gw2 which i will be buying regardless of what happens in gw.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

16 May 2007 at 22:38 - 209

Foe, I'm thinking the same way like you do. I seen countless idiots spamming crap or offensive stuffs everywhere in GW yet they don't seen to be banned. (I go back the next night and they're still there going at it). There must be something missing and why A-Net hasn't response back yet about the final resolutions for this kind of banning.

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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16 May 2007 at 22:56 - 210

Not that I have a problem with banning folks who spam in all chat, but there's obviously some inconsistencies.... which in reglar engrish means 'no fair'. There really should be a nice fast acting automated mute in all chat, and all chat only. Then.... perhaps 10 times as many spots on the mute list wouldn't be so sorely needed.

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

17 May 2007 at 10:07 - 211

Not being able to catch all, and ban all is a normal fact of life, some criminals get caught, others get away with their acts. Is this fair? No if possible we should catch and punish most, but if we are unable too letst just catch a decent number to at least try and limit the nuisance.

You can also just ask yourself, if we can't catch all, would it then be fair to the populous (to whom they owe responsability) to let get away the ones they can catch?

Don't reverse the reasoning and claim it's unfair to punish the ones that get caught for violating the rules, just catch what you can and set an example in agreement with the rules of conduct.

Destinyy

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

Faction of War [ARES]

17 May 2007 at 10:19 - 212

Spam in all chat = Ban for a day (It's a gamers nightmare, imagine being banned for an entire day on the weekend)
Spam in trade = Ban for say 2 hours

The other thing is this, Trade chat has a character limit no? So you cannot fully describe your product there? Not cool IMO!!!

So there are 2 sides to the coin!!!

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

17 May 2007 at 10:30 - 213

Patrick, while I agree with you, and I have no problem with action against spammers, the main issue is beyond simple "break the rules - now pay the price". The issue is having a rule in place, that has never been enforced with a ban, then all of a sudden start banning without warning.

Think of it like this. It is against the law (at least in America) to jaywalk. You can technically be given a ticket and fined for it. Well, most cities pretty much ignore this law. Let's say all of a sudden, the mayor of your city tells police to start enforcing it in full - ticket everyone who jaywalks! This is never announced to anyone.

Can they do it? Sure, well within the law. I ask you, how do you think the public would react? Quite upset, I would think. Not sure what would happen, but I guarantee everyone would be upset, no doubt. This is a similar situation, if it is indeed mods playing seek and destroy.

fenix

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17 May 2007 at 10:48 - 214

Sure, banning people for spamming is a good way to cut down on it, but it would be nice if there was an alternative to spamming. I personally never spam, I advertise (write a message once every 30 seconds or so, so that people actually SEE it), which is fine, but spamming (5 lines in a row, repeat when spam message is gone) is just as annoying to me as anyone. I think Anet really should give us a GOOD way to trade, so that people will not feel the need to spam. There are days when I know EXACTLY why people do it, as sometimes your message is gone within 1 second of you writing it, and that 5x spam would be a good way to get the message out there, as annoying as it is. I think that there should be a better way to do this.

A simple way to do it, could be a system similar to the Template display box. I have been thinking this over recently, and with tweaking, it could be nice. Basically, there is 1 district, where everyone goes to trade. You set up a 'template' of your item (same box as template code, but instead of skills, the picture of the item, and instead of attributes, the stats), and add it to the NPC. After this is done, people can browse through items the same way you can browse through Templates. You select the name that you want to open, and it brings up the Template window, but with your item/items listed. This way, people can freely look through item lists, and then PM you if they are interested. This would reduce spam to almost none (except for those people who will NEVER learn :P), and would be an easy way to have an 'Auction House' as such.

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

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17 May 2007 at 12:25 - 215

All I want for Christmas is a little less spam!

I'm sorry you got banned for selling in local chat, but honestly it's your own damn fault. There's a trade channel, try using it.

If Anet is finally cracking down on the annoying wtb/wts spam in local, huzzah! Maybe I'll be able to turn it back on once in a while and have a conversation with people. It get's mighty lonely during the day while all my guildies are at work or school.

For those that feel that selling in local is ok: there's a trade channel for a reason. And no, I don't want to have to go another district to get away from the spammage. I shouldn't have to!

For those that think spamming is the only way to buy or sell something: I have sold all kinds of things and I have never spammed the same thing 3 or 5 (or a dozen) times in a row.

fenix

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17 May 2007 at 12:29 - 216

I think the issue is more than "just use the trade channel". People are always trying to find other ways to bring attention to their message, more than others. Local = yellow name/white text, so stands out if there's lots of Trade (red). Once 1 person does it, everyone else does too. If Anet would bring in a better way of doing it, none of this would be an issue...

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 May 2007 at 12:33 - 217

I will agree with that, and I mentioned before: The trade channel chat is nasty on the eyes. It all sticks together. It's the only channel where the user names are the same (ugly) color as the text, so once in awhile it's easy to get lost in it all.

master of cookies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

order of clerics

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17 May 2007 at 15:34 - 218

i wonder if Gaile has had her confrence call yet, id like to see why this has been happening

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

17 May 2007 at 16:24 - 219

I was on LA this morning, I wish that peoples would keep their spams in trade channel.. I mean that is what Trade Channel is for! We don't want to see "WTS GODLY Crystalline Sword... no noob offers and no mini pets trade" all over regular chat!!

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

17 May 2007 at 16:26 - 220

Hell,I've spammed even after the introduction of the Party Search system.

The reason is perfectly clear as to why as well.A 31 character limit.

How exactly is someone supposed to fit in the stats of say your typical Sundering Chaos Axe of Fortitude?I mean,jesus theres goes 20+ of the 31 limit.Now I have to fit in the stats of the Sundering Mod,the Fortitude Mod,the Inscription,its rarity(Gold/Purple),It's requirement,What I currently want for it,so on,so forth.

I never understood as to why the hell it had a lower character limit than typing in the All Chat/Trade Chat.Oh wait.I know.It's because Anet simply doesn't make sense.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

17 May 2007 at 16:27 - 221

Any insult to an individual or the community as a whole will be deleted. Please keep your posts on topic and contributing.

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

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17 May 2007 at 16:48 - 222

District 1 of the three major cities is simply the place to trade and why make another one - why add a district to trade in when the players have designated one?

I can't say anything about other Countries as I play off of American servers, so if it is different somewhere please let me know.

When you go to LA - how often to you end up in American District 1 without asking to go there - 99% of the time you end up in dist. 3 or higher and have to switch districts to get to district 1.

I do agree the Trade chat should be used, but even so the only reason to go to district 1 is to sell or buy something.

If I am meeting people somewhere I always say highest district so we can all find eachother easily

If I have something to sell I go to District 1 (I hate selling by the way - I only do it when my gold reserves are getting low)

If I want to buy something I go to district 1 and watch what people are selling. I don't use WTB (I did a few times and found the same results as watching what people have) I just travel between the 3 major cities to see what is being offered.

Outside District 1, however, is a different story , or even in smaller towns and outposts, in those areas things should be strict. All chat should never be used and spamming is just silly.

The problem is most people don't ever visit a fan site and never read these posts or check what is for sale or list what they have for sale, and they never will. They don't even know there is an issue.

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

17 May 2007 at 17:10 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Patrick, while I agree with you, and I have no problem with action against spammers, the main issue is beyond simple "break the rules - now pay the price". The issue is having a rule in place, that has never been enforced with a ban, then all of a sudden start banning without warning.

Think of it like this. It is against the law (at least in America) to jaywalk. You can technically be given a ticket and fined for it. Well, most cities pretty much ignore this law. Let's say all of a sudden, the mayor of your city tells police to start enforcing it in full - ticket everyone who jaywalks! This is never announced to anyone.

Can they do it? Sure, well within the law. I ask you, how do you think the public would react? Quite upset, I would think. Not sure what would happen, but I guarantee everyone would be upset, no doubt. This is a similar situation, if it is indeed mods playing seek and destroy.

Have been there, and although used to jaywalking in the Netherlands where it is condoned as well (although the exact rules are different i guess), I usually lived up to the rules in the states, as I don't know how they react towards it. I didn't see too much jaywalking in Boston and San Fransisco, so I go with the flow. This brings us back to spamming, people indeed go with the flow, and somehow there should be an initiative to stop it if it exceeds acceptable limits.

Starting an unannounced action against violators maybe somewhat crude as an action and I agree with that, but action need be taken. Maybe it would have been better to announce it via the login of the game, but best would be with the introduction of an improved trade system, either simple as an international trade district (most likely), or more complex like an auction house (least likely).

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 May 2007 at 17:56 - 224

Actually, now that I think about it, having an international trade outpost would be a really bad idea. The spam would be endless, and your eyes wouldn't be able to keep up with the text. You'd also have a pretty hard time clicking on the name of a person who's selling something you want.

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

17 May 2007 at 17:58 - 225

I have to side with the spammers, which is saying a lot considering I have had my local and trade chat turned off for almost six months to escape them, 31 characters is not enough

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

17 May 2007 at 18:04 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Actually, now that I think about it, having an international trade outpost would be a really bad idea. The spam would be endless, and your eyes wouldn't be able to keep up with the text. You'd also have a pretty hard time clicking on the name of a person who's selling something you want.

I agree that the scroll speed may be very fast, however I also thought of this problem, and was thinking that using filters (same as the trade, general or alliance chat) u could limit the amount of information you have to sift through.

Adding a command, like "/runto character name" could let you easily find that target.

Automated messages advertising your wares could also lighten the task of the seller.

Whatever the problem, there can always be though of solutions.

dragonofinfinity

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

pretentious latin title[PTA]

R/Mo

17 May 2007 at 18:15 - 227

im tierd of having to spam in the main cities with messages to people to use the trade channel insted of normal. if you were spamming normal with things that should have been in trade, you deserve to get a temporary ban. THE TRADE CHANNEL IS THERE FOR A REASON!

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

17 May 2007 at 23:56 - 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Smit

Adding a command, like "/runto character name" could let you easily find that target.

Whatever the problem, there can always be though of solutions.

1. highlight players name in chat box
2. hit ctrl + c
3. Paste name using ctrl + v into add member to group
4. hit + sign to add
5. click on players name
6. hit trade

Takes all of like 2 seconds, only downfall is if they in a full group.

Be surprised how many players don't know this and it saves alot of time. No more alt and looking around and every time a player asks me "where are you?" I teach them that.

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

18 May 2007 at 00:02 - 229

A little note, only the left ctrl button works, not both.

HzzB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Vancouver, BC

18 May 2007 at 00:19 - 230

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

Is this new? ...O_O

IMHO killing spamers is a GOOD JOB for ANet. TNANKS!!!

Tannim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 May 2007 at 00:27 - 231

Getting temp banned for spamming seems kinda light. We have a usable trade channel and a party search function for trading. There is really no excuse for trading nor spamming in the general channel .... this is great news if ANet stepped up and decide to enforce their own rules.

Best news I heard in a long time.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

18 May 2007 at 00:41 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by HzzB

IMHO killing spamers is a GOOD JOB for ANet. TNANKS!!!

Yeah.Because Anet has no other issues to be adressed to.

Bots..Hardmode...HA...none of these problems actually exist!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tannim

Getting temp banned for spamming seems kinda light. We have a usable trade channel and a party search function for trading. There is really no excuse for trading nor spamming in the general channel .... this is great news if ANet stepped up and decide to enforce their own rules.

Best news I heard in a long time.

Yay for ignorance.

Tannim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 May 2007 at 00:44 - 233

Which came first, Hardmode or spamming children? Think about that one :P

Heh, you can celebrate your ignorance all you like

We'll celebrate it with you ...

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

18 May 2007 at 00:51 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tannim

Which came first, Hardmode or spamming children? Think about that one :P

Heh, you can celebrate your ignorance all you like

We'll celebrate it with you ...

Incredible.Ignorant of ones Ignorance.

fenix

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18 May 2007 at 00:54 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tannim

Getting temp banned for spamming seems kinda light. We have a usable trade channel and a party search function for trading. There is really no excuse for trading nor spamming in the general channel .... this is great news if ANet stepped up and decide to enforce their own rules.

Best news I heard in a long time.

As the saying goes, 'If ignorance is bliss, then you must be orgasmic'. Read the rest of the thread before commenting, please.

Tannim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 May 2007 at 01:24 - 236

Since I was responding to the first post ... as common and expected everywhere on the net that host a forum .... Does this forum have different expectations then normal?

To quote and reply to those who do not follow common flow ...

Post #1

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

Is this new? I going to DoA from kaineng, and i passed kamadan. I needed a +30 for spear for a while, so i figured id go like BUYING +30hp for spear in every city i would pass. So i was in kamadan, and i entered it a few times and boom, i disconnected.

Emphasis mine. He admits to spamming.

Post #14

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

Well i used all chat. I was just skipping tru towns hoping for somebody to PM me. I contacted customer support, but no answers yet. Personally i think its pathetic to ban people for THREE days because of this. I mean, if you change the code, please drop a warning before you wtfban people.

Emphasis mine. He admits yet again ... *sigh*

Post #92

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

I highly doubt that seeing as that is exactly what i did. I dont see why people post DESERVED BAN!!!oneone. I mean, cmon, 2 lines each city i attend on my way to kamadan can hardly justify a ban for spamming.
I totally agree on banning people spamming their WTS stuff for hours on an end though.

He gets a little bit more specific. Claiming 2 lines, in the non-trade channel ... hmmm ... have you read this thread at all?

Post #125

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

Let me give you a report about how it went.

I send in report with details and a lot of question marks.
Couple emails follow about details, my account name and serial key etc.

In the end, i get a mail with roughly the following (i wont copy it):
After reviewing logs we concluded that you are rightfully banned for
-spamming

Bla bla bla EULA link bla bla bla.

Regards bla bla.

First of all, i have to say that the customer support is really fast. Good work. But apart from that, i think its PATHETIC that i get banned for a couple lines in each city. I dont know how their logs register stuff, but it better include location, cuz this isnt really cool. I think i said it 2 times in kaineng and maybe 5 in kamadan. I was done in kamadan and about to maptravel to DoA when i got wtfbanned.
Conclusion: massive banning and complaining wont help. Sit the 72 hours out and merch all your stuff cuz youre not allowed to sell anymore.

Emphasis mine. He went through customer service, and they reiterated the agreement that he AGREED to and kept the ban. Now he comes in here complaining because he wants to back out of the agreement. The solution is simple ... if you don't like what you agreed to, then quit. It's simple. Here's a definition, in case you missed it ... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreement

Screenshot posted in post #132, except it is not showing at the time of this post. Ref: http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spamav4.jpg

Post #142 mentions he was unbanned, congrats. Lets hope he learned his lessons and stick with his side of the agreement.

Post #197 mentioned no warning before banned .... ouch

The above are pretty much all the posts he made in this thread, since you missed them.

It is unfortunate that the ban was probably gm made and not automated as there are still children spamming in many cities.

It's really weird. I have seen you replied a few times in this thread, but all of a sudden, you forgot what the guy actually posted when you read my post? Funny how people are like that sometimes.

After seeing how you are serious in your ignorance, I rather educate you then celebrate your ignorance. Please read his posts, I even listed the post numbers for you.

If you want to insult someone, at least check your ignorance at the door first.

fenix

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18 May 2007 at 01:36 - 237

lol, so you've read through. Maybe next time post in a more educated manner. Your post was clearly derived from a view that spammers/traders are bad, so should be banned. If you read through the posts and saw the opinions other traders have about this issue, you wouldn't have seemed like an ignorant fool. kthx.

Tannim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 May 2007 at 01:42 - 238

Congratulations, you read part of my posts this time, and some of the thread before posting. For that, I thank you and hope you will do the same, the next time you are on the forums.

Now for the parts you missed. If you completely read my posts, you would see that my view clearly derived from a view that spammers are bad. Not traders. Since I've read through the thread twice now, I have noticed that there are two sides to traders, some who believe spamming (aka, breaking the EULA) is bad, while others just don't care.

I cannot speak for others. But I rather have quality play time. Rather then playing with kiddies who spam various channels. But that's probably just me ...

fenix

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18 May 2007 at 01:48 - 239

I've read this thread over and over, since there was 2 posts in it. There have been only a few 'spammers', but the others have just been people who sell items. Clearly this issue affects people who sell, as they have the chance of being banned for something that has existed for the past 2 years. I replied to your post as I did because your post is highly negative, and simply saying "hooray, ban them for longer" will not advance this thread in any way.

Tannim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 May 2007 at 01:51 - 240

Excellent point. But with the replies of people saying, ... finally one banned, 1000 more to go

I do not want to effect traders. But in every single town I have been to ... minus Piken Square (near thurs. night), there are more spammers then real traders ... Though there are definately gems/real traders in there ...