Lavish Loot and Lockpicks! (Weekend Event)
garethporlest18
Well NM chests have given me all purples..only tried 2 though. Another person in alliance got 3 grapes out of NM chests. So far HM chests have given me all rares, and him as well and another person in our alliance all rares from like 38 chests. So I don't know if it's on yet or not, cause NM chest drops sucks.
Jongo River
13 Ancient Elonian Keys used - only 2 grapes. Mostly req 12 golds and a couple of useless/worthless superior runes, but a good start all the same. I just hope things aren't totally nerfed before my next gaming session tomorrow evening.
Black Kroh
out of 26 Vabbi Chests i've had only 2 purples, 1 of which was a Req 9 Crude Axe Rare SKin)
Sir Skullcrasher
I hope I could finally get some decent drops in NF!
Dragonious
58% chance of retention on 600 gold chests....8/9 RETAINED with more gold than purple. Can I get a hallelujah?! This is like double luck weekend for me. :-)
*Alexiel*
My favourite weekend...Extatic.
However;
Is anyone noticing anything...? Or are me and a few guildies juse having hard luck?
Sure theres Golds, more Golds, but Lockpicks seem to be breaking far too much for me?
I have 4 ranks in lucky, 4 in treasure hunter, not a massive amount but more than some.
Just ran 20 chests in NM. ...18 Lockpicks broke?
Would be just like Anet to give something as great as this as a weekend event but yet take something away at the same time like this. As for me, I could just buy keys but when I have a fair few lockpicks to go might aswell use them and hopefully retain more than what I have been doing this time..
Anyone else noticed something similar?
EDIT: Sorry if something like this has already been posted, haven't had time to read entire thread.
And to above post: Glad to know some people are having better luck, hope mine gets better xD
However;
Is anyone noticing anything...? Or are me and a few guildies juse having hard luck?
Sure theres Golds, more Golds, but Lockpicks seem to be breaking far too much for me?
I have 4 ranks in lucky, 4 in treasure hunter, not a massive amount but more than some.
Just ran 20 chests in NM. ...18 Lockpicks broke?
Would be just like Anet to give something as great as this as a weekend event but yet take something away at the same time like this. As for me, I could just buy keys but when I have a fair few lockpicks to go might aswell use them and hopefully retain more than what I have been doing this time..
Anyone else noticed something similar?
EDIT: Sorry if something like this has already been posted, haven't had time to read entire thread.
And to above post: Glad to know some people are having better luck, hope mine gets better xD
Every time i lag
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Originally Posted by *Alexiel*
My favourite weekend...Extatic.
However; Is anyone noticing anything...? Or are me and a few guildies juse having hard luck? Sure theres Golds, more Golds, but Lockpicks seem to be breaking far too much for me? I have 4 ranks in lucky, 4 in treasure hunter, not a massive amount but more than some. Just ran 20 chests in NM. ...18 Lockpicks broke? Would be just like Anet to give something as great as this as a weekend event but yet take something away at the same time like this. As for me, I could just buy keys but when I have a fair few lockpicks to go might aswell use them and hopefully retain more than what I have been doing this time.. Anyone else noticed something similar? EDIT: Sorry if something like this has already been posted, haven't had time to read entire thread. And to above post: Glad to know some people are having better luck, hope mine gets better xD |
still bad luck i gues
My Green Storage
Out of curiosity I did 2 runs of normal mode Mirror of Lyss Vabbi chests ..
49% chance of retaining it ... 9 keys, 7 broke ... I would love to know they're percentage set up ... I thought 49% was 1/2 chance of saving a key ..
Of those 9 keys, 3 purples. So I figured, welp ... only HM chests do the mostly/all gold thing.
And the 2nd half of the event .. is it good or bad to kill near 80 guys solo and have 0 lockpicks drop in hardmode? lol
Plains of Jarin spiders and Hassin Softskin and his crew ... 7+ runs solo VwK rit and 0 lockpicks
49% chance of retaining it ... 9 keys, 7 broke ... I would love to know they're percentage set up ... I thought 49% was 1/2 chance of saving a key ..
Of those 9 keys, 3 purples. So I figured, welp ... only HM chests do the mostly/all gold thing.
And the 2nd half of the event .. is it good or bad to kill near 80 guys solo and have 0 lockpicks drop in hardmode? lol
Plains of Jarin spiders and Hassin Softskin and his crew ... 7+ runs solo VwK rit and 0 lockpicks
Evilsod
Meh, % is dodgy. Think of it as a similar 50% break chance as the 50% miss chance on Blurred Vision...
Perfected Shadow
Hmm the way I look at it:
Probability of getting 'lavish loot' from chests or keys/lockpicks = 1/100000000000
This weekend, the probability of getting 'lavish loot' from chests or keys/lockpicks =
2/100000000000
Probability of getting 'lavish loot' from chests or keys/lockpicks = 1/100000000000
This weekend, the probability of getting 'lavish loot' from chests or keys/lockpicks =
2/100000000000
IlikeGW
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49% chance of retaining it ... 9 keys, 7 broke ... I would love to know they're percentage set up ... I thought 49% was 1/2 chance of saving a key ..
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Tuoba Hturt Eht
I'm a bit confused, can anyone tell me when does this weekend event actually starts and ends?
Ctb
If I get one more gold staff with a Reduces Blindness 20% mod....
To expand upon the point, you're confusing probability of a single event with probability in a set of events. It's entirely possibly you could fail 500 times in a row with a 50% chance because the chance applies to each attempt, not to all the attempts you make over a given period of time.
In theory, if you make enough attempts, you will break even, but there's no guarantee on how many attempts you'd have to make before that happens. It could be anywhere from 2 all the way to the right on the number line forever.
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In theory, if you make enough attempts, you will break even, but there's no guarantee on how many attempts you'd have to make before that happens. It could be anywhere from 2 all the way to the right on the number line forever.
Evilsod
We really don't need philosophical debates on probability...
I'm really getting sick of those mods/inscriptions too. Every other item i get has a condition redction/increasing mod on it.
I'm really getting sick of those mods/inscriptions too. Every other item i get has a condition redction/increasing mod on it.
Ctb
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I don't really give a crap about WoW-grinding for titles, so I think I'll just go back to WoW-grinding for gold in Talus. It was kind of fun to go chest running for a bit, but after 20k with not a single useful drop it's kind of an annoyance now more than anything :\
My best drop so far is an axe with a 20% poison duration increase and a 20/19 axe mastery mod, but it's 15 under 50. Bleh.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know why chest gold drops are almost always focuses, wands, or staves? The collector version of those items are almost always better so they're the things you WOULDN'T need to find in drops, but they seem to be all that drops most of the time. Hell, I haven't gotten a shield or sword from a chest in ages.
Black Kroh
I got a gold Req 13 Fellblade at mirror of lyss CR, Im gonna mod it into a caster wep.
Neo Nugget
i got 8/9 golds with the 8 lock picks i got. 1 wasn't broken, but the rest were, but at least i got some wisdom points
Evilsod
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It has nothing to do with philosophy or "dodgy" numbers, it's a clearly defined mathematical concept. The probability they're referring to is clearly applied to each individual chest open and lockpick use and therefore does not mean "you'll get twice as many golds". Some people seem to be confusing "you have a double chance" with "you'll get twice as much gold stuff".
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Indeed. But, hey, at least I got a weakness staff now too... I don't really give a crap about WoW-grinding for titles, so I think I'll just go back to WoW-grinding for gold in Talus. It was kind of fun to go chest running for a bit, but after 20k with not a single useful drop it's kind of an annoyance now more than anything :\ My best drop so far is an axe with a 20% poison duration increase and a 20/19 axe mastery mod, but it's 15 under 50. Bleh. Out of curiosity, does anyone know why chest gold drops are almost always focuses, wands, or staves? The collector version of those items are almost always better so they're the things you WOULDN'T need to find in drops, but they seem to be all that drops most of the time. Hell, I haven't gotten a shield or sword from a chest in ages. |
On the bright side i finally got a perfect Forget me Not inscription, i've been chest running quite a lot since the Lucky weekend and used a few 100 lockpicks. In that time i've seen 2 Forget me Nots and 1 Luck of the Draw...
To make things better i just got a r9 Inscribable FDS
midnight caretaker
Running normal mode luxon side, stopped after getting 7 out of 10 purple also there seem to be fewer chests some areas only have 1 or 2 chests
This weekend sucks
Finally guru stop with the adware please i would rather you went back to advertising for ebay to make your money thanks
This weekend sucks
Finally guru stop with the adware please i would rather you went back to advertising for ebay to make your money thanks
vergerefosh
So far, in NM in nahpui quarter, 3 keys, 3 purples. In Resplendent Makuun HM, 2 or 3 lockpick drops, 2 lockpick retentions, 2 superior runes worth more still attached, one quite nice ruby maul req 9, rest mostly junk. However, did just now in issnur isles get a non-max fiery blade axe in NM. looks cool
HawkofStorms
The thing is, probability just doesn't work over small sample sizes. 9 chests isn't enough to really get any conclusive numbers. Shrug, I trust a.net to do a legitamate job with this weekend.
Mad King Corn
Played HM for several hours with only 1 lockpick drop. 12 HM chests opened, 11 crap golds for merchant and 1 diamond aegsis (for heroes).
Used 15 canthan keys, 12 purple and 3 gold junk items!
Used 12 Jade Keys 7 purple 5 gold junk items!
Used 21 Kurzik Keys, 14 purple and 6 junk gold items 1 gold staff with a +30 wrap which I salvaged.
Used various Kournan, Ancient Elonian and Margonite Keys (Approx 25 keys) and 3/4 purple and the rest junk!
Absolutely no keys dropped for me at all!
I would not be at all surprised if Anet did absolutely nothing at all and just told us key/lockpick drops would be better. If they even touched the chest settings at all, I would be shocked. Dunno, some people claim to have had good luck, I sure did not.
Why they call it lavish loot and lockpicks is way beyond me, I have had better luck on occasion without the special weekend.
Used 15 canthan keys, 12 purple and 3 gold junk items!
Used 12 Jade Keys 7 purple 5 gold junk items!
Used 21 Kurzik Keys, 14 purple and 6 junk gold items 1 gold staff with a +30 wrap which I salvaged.
Used various Kournan, Ancient Elonian and Margonite Keys (Approx 25 keys) and 3/4 purple and the rest junk!
Absolutely no keys dropped for me at all!
I would not be at all surprised if Anet did absolutely nothing at all and just told us key/lockpick drops would be better. If they even touched the chest settings at all, I would be shocked. Dunno, some people claim to have had good luck, I sure did not.
Why they call it lavish loot and lockpicks is way beyond me, I have had better luck on occasion without the special weekend.
Socrates The Mauler
Lavish loot........not.
2 crappy golds from fow is not lavish. I could have gotten the same items from a normal chest run any day of the week in fow.
Next time a "lavish" weekend comes up they need to call it the midas touch weekend or something, where we can choose to touch a dropped item and it turns req 9 or lower, and all stats max out. Now thats lavish.
My idea of lavish is something more than req 10 items with 20% health below 50% and a crappy armor +7 vs elemental.
2 crappy golds from fow is not lavish. I could have gotten the same items from a normal chest run any day of the week in fow.
Next time a "lavish" weekend comes up they need to call it the midas touch weekend or something, where we can choose to touch a dropped item and it turns req 9 or lower, and all stats max out. Now thats lavish.
My idea of lavish is something more than req 10 items with 20% health below 50% and a crappy armor +7 vs elemental.
Ctb
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The thing is, probability just doesn't work over small sample sizes. 9 chests isn't enough to really get any conclusive numbers. Shrug, I trust a.net to do a legitamate job with this weekend.
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Because of the crappy items they usually drop, chest running is sort of like Vegas. If you do it enough, you'll probably hit it big at least once, but in the long run you're almost guaranteed to lose out, and even if you do make a small gain, there's much faster and more reliable ways to earn money.
What people don't seem to realize is that, yes, chests can drop golds more commonly than monsters do, but they don't drop anything better than the mobs, so you might as well just kill mobs if you're actually trying to make money or get an uber-item. Even if you never get a good drop from the mobs, selling the other crap they drop will inevitably put you ahead and you can buy what you were after anyway.
onerabbit
2 ele swords after each other
req8 celestial sword
dual gothic axe
and a fiery gladius
Wakes up*
req10 celestial sword
grinning dragon axe
rest was crappy
req8 celestial sword
dual gothic axe
and a fiery gladius
Wakes up*
req10 celestial sword
grinning dragon axe
rest was crappy
Danax
Req 13 Celestial Longbow.
Req 9 Earth Celestial Wand.
Uninscribable.
Improved Sales Value.
Halves recharge of illusion spells (11%)
GG.
Req 9 Earth Celestial Wand.
Uninscribable.
Improved Sales Value.
Halves recharge of illusion spells (11%)
GG.
IlikeGW
I've barely ever done run chests since about they came out. It's not even worth getting into unless you take 50k worth of runs. Sure you might make more than you put into it but overall it's pretty boring and and involves the ever crappy selling of items in game.
Evilsod
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Played HM for several hours with only 1 lockpick drop. 12 HM chests opened, 11 crap golds for merchant and 1 diamond aegsis (for heroes).
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Used 15 canthan keys, 12 purple and 3 gold junk items! Used 12 Jade Keys 7 purple 5 gold junk items! Used 21 Kurzik Keys, 14 purple and 6 junk gold items 1 gold staff with a +30 wrap which I salvaged. Used various Kournan, Ancient Elonian and Margonite Keys (Approx 25 keys) and 3/4 purple and the rest junk! |
I knew before this event had even begun that loads of people would begin whining that there gold drops weren't any good... the weekend event clearly states double chances of a gold drop from chests, not double chances of a gold drop from chests AND double chances of that gold actually been good/rare skinned.
I've been doing alot of chests runs since the lucky chest event 2 weeks ago. I can safely say the on average the golds i got have sucked and i can also say, with confidence, that the droprate on golds has DEFINATLY improved while the quality of those DEFINATLY hasn't. I'm sure the long term chest runners among us can say the same.
Of course it does mean that through overrunning the chests will suck for a while now...
Mad King Corn
I agree, as far as im concerned the weekend was a total waste of my time and gold. It's pretty sad that even if you do get a gold, the chance of it even being somewhat useful is next to nothing. All I can hope for is a green drop weekend, at least I wont be wasting any money, just time.
savage vapor 33
People whine because they are getting golds, but they are crappy. Did Anet say they would be letting ele swords, crystallines, and fellblades drop only? No they said rare drops. Golds are rare. Stop whining, Get in the choppa!
Evilsod
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I agree, as far as im concerned the weekend was a total waste of my time and gold. It's pretty sad that even if you do get a gold, the chance of it even being somewhat useful is next to nothing. All I can hope for is a green drop weekend, at least I wont be wasting any money, just time.
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Yeah... the shit golds have nothing to do with the weekend event... just be thankful you get twice as many shit golds which means twice the chance of 1 of them been decent.
Killaya
Wow, my boyfriend and I have had great luck. I opened several chests in luxon and kurz territory in HM, all gold. Also I ran chests outside Port Sledge, all but one was gold. My boyfriend runs chests out in Realm of Torment. 100 chests in normal mode.... ALL GOLD. Seriously. Damn him for such good luck. Albeit they were mostly shite, but he's doing it for chest opening and wisdom titles.
I Is Special
yay lucky me
3 golds out of 12 chests--this even is a dream come true :/
3 golds out of 12 chests--this even is a dream come true :/
4ssassin
Holy crap Anet! Item prices are already dropping at stupidly high rates. I can see it now..
WTS req9 15^50 20/20 phoniex blade, 5k!!! Hurry, only 15 left!!!!
Everyone wants there to be tons and tons of gold drops while having them maintain their value. Look people, either golds are rare and valuable, or common and cheap. Can't have it both ways.
I'm not a big farmer, but sometimes I run chests for unlucky points when I'm bored (probably wont this weekend cause I don't feel like it.) But seriously, cant wait to see what everything is selling for in LA/Kamadan on Monday...
WTS req9 15^50 20/20 phoniex blade, 5k!!! Hurry, only 15 left!!!!
Everyone wants there to be tons and tons of gold drops while having them maintain their value. Look people, either golds are rare and valuable, or common and cheap. Can't have it both ways.
I'm not a big farmer, but sometimes I run chests for unlucky points when I'm bored (probably wont this weekend cause I don't feel like it.) But seriously, cant wait to see what everything is selling for in LA/Kamadan on Monday...
Mr_Cynical
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I think the real question is,will this get people to actually play Hardmode?
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But it would be a shame that something which Anet spent 6 months longer than planned on would fail simply because people want to play it, but can't because of lack of numbers. There are other reasons (the disguising of a simple attack speed buff as 'super-improved AI') why I think hard mode is bad, but for it to end up dieing a long-overdue death even when people still want to play wouldn't be a good ending.
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Everyone wants there to be tons and tons of gold drops while having them maintain their value. Look people, either golds are rare and valuable, or common and cheap. Can't have it both ways.
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The undead Mesmer
I am rather happy with the event got tier 2 on both the things and got myself some nice golds ^.^ one piece of advice though be sure to check where the chests are located and what spawns close to it... for example when a chest spawns close to where you are AND has mandragor surrounding it dont open it its a big fat chance of being a purple... :/
but yeah I are happy last drop was a req 9 strenght eternal shield actually...
but yeah I are happy last drop was a req 9 strenght eternal shield actually...
NEOgeo
just another nail in the coffin of GW pve for me, nothing is worth anything anymore, there are no descent farms and chest spawns are nerfed , now double rares ... bye for now GW, see u in the next chapter maybe
Griff Mon
I got five lockpicks farming in HM. Retained them a few times. Getting close to another tier in Treasure Hunter and am getting golds decent enough to give to my heroes on some of my other characters, bunch of tomes and the occasional gold drop from the monsters. Still never have seen a single FoW or UW pass, but hey its fun and I got nothing to complain about.
Evilsod
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Common and cheap works for me. It's also (if you take Gaile's justifications for the loot scaling screwup at face value, rather than as PR babble) the direction that Anet wants to take the game in. If you can get whatever weapon you need (say, for example, a Furious collector spear of Defense) for 5k then questing and merching the resulting garbage drops is a perfectly viable way of playing the game. Think about it - if the game had been like this from the beginning (hopefully GW2 will) then there would be no upset over constant farming nerfs (because nobody would need to farm to get items necessary to play the game, like max armor), there would be less botting (less demand for eBay gold), and everyone in general (Anet included) would be happier due to this reduction in aggro.
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noblepaladin
Ouch, I just got 3 normal tomes in a row in HM...