330hp Rt/Mo Vengeful Spirit Bonder -Quick HM Farming!

ProjectZephyr

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Age Of Reptiles [AoR]

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I have all the chapters. :P And so what kind of drops am I looking for? Golds? Certain collectables or mats? I'm sorta new to this whole farming thing, so I'm just trying to get an idea of what I'm looking for.

And do deaths affect drops? I think I remember someone saying that at some point.

EDIT: With the death thing, I'm referring to the dying and ressing at the shrine right next to the Luxon sin area. Will that affect my drops? Because I've been doing that and my drops are kinda... crappy. Especially compared to when I ran to them without dying.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ProjectZephyr
I have all the chapters. :P And so what kind of drops am I looking for? Golds? Certain collectables or mats? I'm sorta new to this whole farming thing, so I'm just trying to get an idea of what I'm looking for.

And do deaths affect drops? I think I remember someone saying that at some point.

EDIT: With the death thing, I'm referring to the dying and ressing at the shrine right next to the Luxon sin area. Will that affect my drops? Because I've been doing that and my drops are kinda... crappy. Especially compared to when I ran to them without dying. I am pretty sure that your DP doesn't affect drops...

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Just got all my stuff ready for this rez.

Already killed craploads of naga (got a r9 sunqua blade unid ) with it. Kick ass, dude.

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

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Anywhere worth farming Kurzick points at? I would love to use this build for that purpose. BTW: Frikkin awesome build. Much 'spect for the work you put into this.

Masacru Ak

Masacru Ak

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

Romania

No Guild

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Your build is very good , but i can keep my health up ,always im die so easy ,i have all lower armor with all runs , staff wand etc. From all skills from that build ,spirit bond is very important how,when and what moment to cast and i failed .i hope you will help me mayby .sorry for My english i do my best (must buy 1 book english language

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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This will sound a bit stupid, but why the low Armor? I'm guessing it's to make sure Prot Spirit does it's job, but HM foes (and most farmable foes) hit hard enough, especially with 330 or lower health.

A clarification?

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by malko050987
This will sound a bit stupid, but why the low Armor? I'm guessing it's to make sure Prot Spirit does it's job, but HM foes (and most farmable foes) hit hard enough, especially with 330 or lower health.

A clarification?
Ehh, just from the top of my head ><
    It's cheaper than Max Armor Just so Prot Spirit and Spirit Bond does it's job There may or may not be some foes that don't hit hard enough for Spirit Bond to trigger while wearing Max Armor

Vexed

Vexed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

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The low armor insures that you take the most possible damage per hit to trigger Spirit Bond.

The damage is calculated before Prot Spirit's reduction.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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Ah.

Thanks for the explanation Lame armor, here I come!

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masacru Ak
Your build is very good , but i can keep my health up ,always im die so easy ,i have all lower armor with all runs , staff wand etc. From all skills from that build ,spirit bond is very important how,when and what moment to cast and i failed .i hope you will help me mayby .sorry for My english i do my best (must buy 1 book english language Sounds to me you haven't noticed the Spirit Bond Bug/Glitche. If you renew Spirit Bond while it is still active, the 10 hits counter won't reset most of the time. So, don't renew Spirit Bond until it has worn off... and jus cast soon as you see that your health start to go down. Also, for farming mods with casters, you might want to use Spirit Bond even with VwK if you are still taking damage from spells of some kind.

GL and Have fun, hope you understand

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by malko050987
Ah.

Thanks for the explanation Lame armor, here I come! Best looking 15AL is Seitung from Monastery. Thats what I use, and I dyed mine all white, and it looks better than most max armors... almost looks leet.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReZDoGG
Best looking 15AL is Seitung from Monastery. Thats what I use, and I dyed mine all white, and it looks better than most max armors... almost looks leet. I use a combo of Seitung and Canthan, regular max armor. Am not going to bother getting 15k for any char except my ranger, who is my pride and joy

The fact that I'm broke most of the time has also come to mind

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by malko050987
I use a combo of Seitung and Canthan, regular max armor. Am not going to bother getting 15k for any char except my ranger, who is my pride and joy

The fact that I'm broke most of the time has also come to mind Oh, well if you use max armor, SB might not trigger from wand damage and such.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReZDoGG
Oh, well if you use max armor, SB might not trigger from wand damage and such. Yeah, I figured that out And I did a test. Got killed in less than ten seconds.

Bought 15AL armor, and this build ROCKS. Thanks for sharing it. Maybe now I'll have a less boring way than trapping/touching way of farming.

Ghost of Toast

Ghost of Toast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Poland

MKOD

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Hi this build is really great! I’ve been farming with it for not long but I had experience in other 55/105 and i fast used to spirit bond. I have only one problem. In Fahranur, The First City in front of city itself there is big group of scales (all are D or W), it is possible to lure them in smaller groups but I’m dying. Why I have PS on me i have SB on me (recasting when it ends)? Is it possible that deep wound kills me?

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost of Toast
Hi this build is really great! I’ve been farming with it for not long but I had experience in other 55/105 and i fast used to spirit bond. I have only one problem. In Fahranur, The First City in front of city itself there is big group of scales (all are D or W), it is possible to lure them in smaller groups but I’m dying. Why I have PS on me i have SB on me (recasting when it ends)? Is it possible that deep wound kills me? Try fighting them in smaller groups. Use a Longbow/Flatbow and pull one group out, they're actually just three or so groups packed into on area. As soon as you pull them out, switch back to your normal weapon set.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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Can this build do Griffon's Mouth?

And a related question, although I might have missed the answer earlier. How do you deal with knockdowns when using this? Just ignore it?

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by malko050987
Can this build do Griffon's Mouth?

And a related question, although I might have missed the answer earlier. How do you deal with knockdowns when using this? Just ignore it? Nothing you can do about knockdowns, but still possible to get off spells in between them... aslong as they are not constant knockdowns. But if you have Gwen there is a skill the will counter knock downs for abou 14-20 seconds depending on your title rank. It has a longer recharged than its duration, but should be enough time to kill a group of enemies off... it should also help against Vermins.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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My Rt is only about a week or so old, hasn't gotten to EotN yet, tho I have boreal station unlocked. Ah well.

Ghost of Toast

Ghost of Toast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Poland

MKOD

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I think that i wasnt clear. When i said that it is possible to lure them in smaller groups i meant that i was luring theam into smaller groups. But all in all next day when i tried it again i killed theam without problem, it seams that i had been doing something wrong.
Fahranur, The First City is deffinityl one of the best farming spots. Run take about 20min with about 60 foes on way and 2 bosses.

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

I just love this build.. so much fun.
And today I went to the Secret Lair of the Snowmen to give it
a go solo.. but for some reason Spirit Bond nor VWK did trigger.. so the
snowmen pretty much smashed like a fly on the windscreen..
Can anyone explain to me why? I just don't get it.

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse
I just love this build.. so much fun.
And today I went to the Secret Lair of the Snowmen to give it
a go solo.. but for some reason Spirit Bond nor VWK did trigger.. so the
snowmen pretty much smashed like a fly on the windscreen..
Can anyone explain to me why? I just don't get it. It's probably because they come in huge groups and they all use the skill Snowball, which deals only 50 Damage regardless of whether it is in Hard Mode or not, just under the 60 Damage requirement for Spirit Bond. Along with that, there's Hidden Rock, which dazes you, so your VwK might have got interrupted.

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

Ah, I see.. but the thing is I had VWK up before I got hit but still it didn't heal me..
No big deal really, as I enjoy the run just as much with heroes but I just
want to understand what and why things turn ugly.

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

I just realized that this build works fine for farming Beetles and Behemoths in Mirror of Lyss.

TheDolph

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

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I would guess VwK didnt work as SNowball is a spell, and those dont trigger VwK

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

aah, of course.. that explains a lot.. thanks, Dolph!

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

can i use Alem's remedy staff with this build? id have 360 hp but seems great for this build

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

I'd say you can, as VwK heals you for 37hp and with Prot. Spirit up you'll lose 36hp.. I'd say it'll work.
Only one way to find out for sure tho; try it.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

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well it works thats for sure. just wondering with regards to health degen and you only got 1 guy remaining- a spell caster lol.

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

That sucks, doesn't it?
I usually shut down Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond to
get some energy regen and then spam Vengeful Weapon and Reversal of Damage. Kinda slow but it works for me.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle222
can i use Alem's remedy staff with this build? id have 360 hp but seems great for this build Alem's will work fine. You don't get staff or weapon benefits when you hold an item... so your health will go down to 330 when you cast VwK. You will also get an extra 1-2 points of damage out of Retribution while VwK is not in use...

oh_oh_joe

oh_oh_joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Power Surge [pS]

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I was just wondering whats everyone's favorite farming spot with this build? I've only really farmed Luxon Sins/First City and the Nub Islands a few times. Just wondering where everyone else is farming, as these areas are getting kind of dry.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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I usually do a Naga run (South of Pongmei Village, the cave), then move the the Jade Brotherhood Knights outside the Marketplace, then overin Tyria outside Sardelac at the Elementals, and if I still feel like it, Fahranur.

Rexsis Kai

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

United States

Passionate Kiss of The Forsaken [KISS]

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I see with this build you have to use several weapons, is this really needed? Also is there a weapon I could use so that as I farmed and got the gold for better weapons I could buy them. Like a +5en +20% Ench. Dur. weapon? Ive seen many many videos using this build to farm, and wow its amazing!

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

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Several weapons? No... you don't. The weps are irrelevent most of the time, as long as it's a caster one, since you're holding VwK most of the time.

A staff such as the hourglass Staff works great. Basically, any Insightful Staff of Enchanting is good. It will give you +15 energy and +20% longer PS/SB if you cast them before VwK.

One of the Bonus packs from GW includes an Insightful Soul Shrieker. It's a Necro staff, but it comes with a +5 energy mod, and you can mod it (or at least, it works for me). I added an enchant mod to it and works great. I used a Mindclouder (+20 energy) for a while, but had issues with the +30 health, so I dropped it.

And if you're really broke, simply ask for any staff from a guildie/friend. Even non-max ones have +10 energy, and it will be enough for for a few runs, until you have enough cash to get a better one.

oh_oh_joe

oh_oh_joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Power Surge [pS]

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I used to use Alem's Remedy when I first started, but now I use the Restoration Effigy from the end of Factions + Collossal Scimitar(which I farmed using this build ) which has 10% Skill recharge and Enchanting.

ZeRG!

ZeRG!

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Las Vegas

Arcana Knights [AK]

hey, is 5 armor too low?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeRG!
hey, is 5 armor too low? Better, actually, as you will take more damage, for easier trigger of Spirit Bond.

(Although may want to use headgear of restoration for that extra restoration point instead of starter headgear.)

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeRG!
hey, is 5 armor too low?
No +5AL is perfect!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Better, actually, as you will take more damage, for easier trigger of Spirit Bond.

(Although may want to use headgear of restoration for that extra restoration point instead of starter headgear.) Im using that exact setup, i bought my headgear from shing jea monestery just so i could have +1 restoration and the rest is my starter armor +5AL and yep it works perfect.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
No +5AL is perfect!


Im using that exact setup, i bought my headgear from shing jea monestery just so i could have +1 restoration and the rest is my starter armor +5AL and yep it works perfect. 5AL is still good, but not much difference if you farm in HM. Maybe only a difference in NM... as you would take more damage to trigger SB. If I had 5AL, I would still get 15AL since it looks better, mainly because it won't matter in HM. But it would be better before HM arrived.