Is this the worst class in the game?
Allehelgens
Topic. Apparently everyone that plays a sin enjoys running it and making monks mad. How many people really know how to play this class?
moko
no, it's not the worst class. these people apparently have no clue about GWs. (i for myself havn't heard of this ever since the sins were buffed insanely)
BlackSephir
Some people think that they'll be able to shadow-step, wipe out the whole team and still get out with decent amount of health.
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Or maybe not... Still, there are A LOT of skills that require changes, not only boa sin skills.
pingu666
rits/mesmers/paragons are worse, maybe dervish
Stormlord Alex
Worst? Meh. Kinda one-dimensional for my tastes.
There sure is a lot of idiots that play the class though... From the PvE narutard who Death's Charges into a mob, to find himself raised as a Fiend 3 seconds later; to the wannabe AB-ninja who screams curses at you 'cuz you're smart enough to B-surge his face/Shield Bash his ass/kite.
There sure is a lot of idiots that play the class though... From the PvE narutard who Death's Charges into a mob, to find himself raised as a Fiend 3 seconds later; to the wannabe AB-ninja who screams curses at you 'cuz you're smart enough to B-surge his face/Shield Bash his ass/kite.
Mickey
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Originally Posted by pingu666
rits/mesmers/paragons are worse, maybe dervish
....I am tying myself to a chair right now to not flame this comment.
....I am tying myself to a chair right now to not flame this comment.
HKSdivision
No, I don't think Assassin's are the worst class. I've got one myself and I know how to play one so it's always fun. Bringing him through NF was fun and sooner or later I'll be taking him through Prophecies.
Most people always assume that Assassins are gonna just rush in and die but at least give them a try before making assumptions.
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Originally Posted by pingu666
Most people always assume that Assassins are gonna just rush in and die but at least give them a try before making assumptions.
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rits/mesmers/paragons are worse, maybe dervish
Playing a Rit is fun too, you probably haven't played one before so that's why you think they are the worst class along with the others. I also have Prophecies to take my Rit through too.
Elementer Masta
I love my assassin. Most of the people who say they are the worst had the misfortune to group with one who was bad. Once you group with a good one it's epic
BlackSephir
Yup. I decided to refresh my old Temple Strike build today and have some fun in RA.
Helpless monks, eles, necros- priceless ;d
Helpless monks, eles, necros- priceless ;d
Gwmaster
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Originally Posted by pingu666
rits/mesmers/paragons are worse, maybe dervish
i really hope that you're sarcastic lol.
pingu666
your right, i dont have a rit, i have two, both have prot of cantha. i rarely feel effective as a rit tho, i know some peeps love em, and good on ya.
mesmers (check the thread in the mesmer forum) arent all that wunderbar either. but mine has 3 protector titles and some 15k armour.
paragons are awsome, but im suspecting its now more about "theres nothing to fear". mines prot of elona, and 1 mission from prot of cantha.
i dont really dig the dervish primary, or the pre battle casts.
i like my assassin cos he does 100dps~ + sustained, can do surprising too
and besides, death blossom, moebius strike and horns of the ox on varesh is funny. and blades of steel has a sweet animation
mesmers (check the thread in the mesmer forum) arent all that wunderbar either. but mine has 3 protector titles and some 15k armour.
paragons are awsome, but im suspecting its now more about "theres nothing to fear". mines prot of elona, and 1 mission from prot of cantha.
i dont really dig the dervish primary, or the pre battle casts.
i like my assassin cos he does 100dps~ + sustained, can do surprising too
and besides, death blossom, moebius strike and horns of the ox on varesh is funny. and blades of steel has a sweet animation
Dean Harper
assassins are definetally not the worst class. in fact, there really is no "worst" class in GW, becuase all classes can be fun, engaging, challenging, and effective all at the same time. It just depends on the skill of the player. (and sometimes the effectiveness of the wikibuild they use lolz )
Coloneh
the OP has obviously never seen a paragon or a mesmer.
Yanman.be
The sin is the worst class in the game for those who think it is. You cannot change their minds.
Cebe
Since I've been playing Sin my mind has been changed towards it somewhat. I'm not sure there is a "worst class" in the game...there are more or less "favoured" classes in both PvP and PvE, and in PvE, Sin probably isn't a "favoured one" because of the reputation they received when Factions was released as a class which dies a lot.
If pushed, very very hard, I might say the worst class in my opinion is a Dervish. Not because they're bad, just because they're the least useful.
/Joins_queue_to_flame_pingu666
If pushed, very very hard, I might say the worst class in my opinion is a Dervish. Not because they're bad, just because they're the least useful.
/Joins_queue_to_flame_pingu666
ensoriki
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assassins are definetally not the worst class. in fact, there really is no "worst" class in GW, becuase all classes can be fun, engaging, challenging, and effective all at the same time. It just depends on the skill of the player. (and sometimes the effectiveness of the wikibuild they use lolz )
LIES,SLANDA,AND PROPAGANDA.
Warriors are the worst class, cus they they dont look cool like us sins and our friends the Dervishes do.
Oh and ummm Assassins are 1 of the bests classes -_- there is no fully best...there is a worse *cough*warrior....*wheeze*Paragon*cough* but ummmm
Mesmer,Assassin,Dervish,Ranger,Ele,Rit,Necro,Monk are all great classes =P
But uh sin looks the best.
Warriors are the worst class, cus they they dont look cool like us sins and our friends the Dervishes do.
Oh and ummm Assassins are 1 of the bests classes -_- there is no fully best...there is a worse *cough*warrior....*wheeze*Paragon*cough* but ummmm
Mesmer,Assassin,Dervish,Ranger,Ele,Rit,Necro,Monk are all great classes =P
But uh sin looks the best.
pve-er
there is no worst class, only worst player and worst luck
Bobby2
I'm still getting to grips with my Sin. I feel it's okay for PvE now but I must say I sometimes feel kinda helpless in Team Arena. Shutdown casters who get their Blind in before my Off Hand connects are simply disaster - I can think of no way to neuter them except for Plague Touch or something (/N 2ndary) which I haven't tried yet.
As I haven't got Factions for that long I still have to unlock some Elite skills so that might be part of the problem, but I still think a Sin without support (which seems to happen quite often as people tend to do 'their own stuff') is easy prey for a single well-prepared opponent. I might be wrong! I hope I am.
As I haven't got Factions for that long I still have to unlock some Elite skills so that might be part of the problem, but I still think a Sin without support (which seems to happen quite often as people tend to do 'their own stuff') is easy prey for a single well-prepared opponent. I might be wrong! I hope I am.
BlackSephir
Uh... yeah. If you think your sin will ever be good in everything then gl.
If you think you can have decent self-heal, condition and hex removing skill, skills that bypass blocks and still do nice amount of damage then... Well, there isn't any class for you.
You're playing in TA? Then what the hell is your monk doing when you ping "I have Reckless Haste/Blind on me!" ?
But if you want to be immune to anything and don't have to rely on anybody I guess I'd go with Shadow Form -,-
Guild wars is a team-based game- there's no such thing (in pvp of course) as undependant character.
If you think you can have decent self-heal, condition and hex removing skill, skills that bypass blocks and still do nice amount of damage then... Well, there isn't any class for you.
You're playing in TA? Then what the hell is your monk doing when you ping "I have Reckless Haste/Blind on me!" ?
But if you want to be immune to anything and don't have to rely on anybody I guess I'd go with Shadow Form -,-
Guild wars is a team-based game- there's no such thing (in pvp of course) as undependant character.
Mickey
I'm getting kind of annoyed at how many people think paragon is the worse class....It may be the worst class for farming, but does that make it the worst class? Seriously, think about what your saying before you say it. A paragon is unbelievably effective at keeping a party on it's feet, and ready to rip.
pingu666
which is the worst class mickey? in your opinion
Coloneh
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I'm getting kind of annoyed at how many people think paragon is the worse class....It may be the worst class for farming, but does that make it the worst class? Seriously, think about what your saying before you say it. A paragon is unbelievably effective at keeping a party on it's feet, and ready to rip.
you seem to be confusing paragons with MONKs. you see monks heal and protect, which keeps a team alive, paragons can provide a few armor boosts and heals, which keeps a team alive, but not as well as a monk.
Mickey
There is no worse class in my opinion. All of them bring different strengths and weaknesses, and none of them can completely dominate the other, based on different builds and such. Anet created the system of classes so one class didn't kill everything else, and to Coloneh, sure, Monks can heal and protect, but can monks increase overall party damage, overall party armor, (and I am talking about adding +24 armor to 8 people, that comes out to a bonus of about 192+ armor, idk if monks can do that...). Sure monks are there to heal and protect, and remove conditions, but paragons are like an offensive monk, with damage/healing/armor support capabilities.
Not as well as a monk....psh. You make me laugh.
Not as well as a monk....psh. You make me laugh.
Chamber Asgardian
omgsh how many times do we have to have this discussion. i thought all the assassin hate passed a long time ago and then this pops up. how many times do people have to tell these countless idiots that there isn't such a thing as a bad class, only a bad player.
Bobby2
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You're playing in TA? Then what the hell is your monk doing when you ping "I have Reckless Haste/Blind on me!" ?
Most times there ain't a monk around. And when he does I'd better hope the player controlling it ain't /afk It's the quick 4vs4 thing, btw.
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Guild wars is a team-based game
Indeed it should be.
Zanpaktou
sins are good if u know how to use em... just like mesmers... dervs rock... they can practicly kill any war even if they remove the enchants... paragons simple suck... i can 3 paras at once with my lvl 14 sin...
j_unit66
each class has its strengths and weaknesses, there is no crappiest proffesion...
Mickey
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sins are good if u know how to use em... just like mesmers... dervs rock... they can practicly kill any war even if they remove the enchants... paragons simple suck... i can 3 paras at once with my lvl 14 sin...
I don't think any of you actually know what a paragon does, so I am gonna stop posting till you actually find out, cause it seems like I am completely wasting my time.
Cathode_Reborn
Paragon:
perma +100al using Focused Anger with "Save yourselves" perma 35% dmg reduction with "There's nothing to fear" So many spare attribute points.....go 16spear/13 leadship.....insane party buffs, high damage to go with it. How can you even attempt to compete with that? All I can say is ignore the underaged trolls that have little knowledge of the game. iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by pingu666
rits/mesmers/paragons are worse, maybe dervish
Sounds like you've grouped with a Ritualst/Mesmer/Paragon maybe once or twice, had no clue what they did, and assumed they sucked... therefore probably transforming you into one of those people who rage-quits at the sight of a Paragon joining his party.
Read what Cathode_Reborn said. Twice, preferably. Zanpaktou
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perma +100al using Focused Anger with "Save yourselves" perma 35% dmg reduction with "There's nothing to fear" So many spare attribute points.....go 16spear/13 leadship.....insane party buffs, high damage to go with it. How can you even attempt to compete with that? All I can say is ignore the underaged trolls that have little knowledge of the game. I probably know more about the game then you considering the amount of time Ive completed it and the amount of characters Ive made. I said in guild chat once [TAS] that paras sucked... I fougth both of them at once... on my necro, and won. Sdfu... I dont care what they do, they are useless imo. Mickey
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I probably know more about the game then you considering the amount of time Ive completed it and the amount of characters Ive made. I said in guild chat once [TAS] that paras sucked... I fougth both of them at once... on my necro, and won. Sdfu... I dont care what they do, they are useless imo.
They need to have a thing on this forum where you can't post until you have been registered for at least 1 month And also, 1. your an idiot 2. you probably have never tried HM 3. Sins can solo anything, but what if I blind you? then wtf are you gonna do? Blazing Spear + Steam works wonders with that I hear.
Yanman.be
Yeah they suck because you countered them 1v1. That's really objective.
samcobra
I countered a monk 1 v 1 by not dying to it too! Does that mean they suck?
Prof Of Black
Assassin RULES.
-Very, very high DPS. Paragons ROCK. -Good IAS -High DPS -Party Support -Damage reduction -Energy Management -Can Heal with Chants -80 Armour -One word: FTW. Imo, the worst classes are rits. Quote from Yanman: The sin is the worst class in the game for those who think it is. You cannot change their minds. -True :P ~Prof. B E A S T
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I countered a monk 1 v 1 by not dying to it too! Does that mean they suck?
Depend if it was going smiteball or not
Legendary Shiz
Rits make me gag.
SotiCoto
*Shrugs*
Assassins might well be one of the most awkward-to-learn classes in the game.... and one of the classes played least well by the average Guild Wars player..... but that by no means justifies calling them the worst class. If I had to dish out the "worst class" title to any class.... it would be the Warriors.... as they're effectively redundant in my eyes now. As for Paragons.... I'd contemplate accusing them of being worst, but then I haven't really tried playing as one to know..... and besides, their Dance animations more than make up for anything bad I could say about them (As my girlfriend and I both agree: Nothing in this world is as amusingly homosexual as Mighty Storage Stan, my storage-Paragon). I just haven't found any situation in which I would actually NEED one, and I'd sooner have a Ritualist to be honest. Commander Ryker
Any class, is only as good/bad as the person who's playing it.
Xx_Sorin_xX
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the OP has obviously never seen a paragon or a mesmer.
and you've obviously never played either class effectively.
a class is only as bad as its player and its build. |