Is this the worst class in the game?

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Sqube
Lion's Arch Merchant
#61
Be warned: once you've gone into Critical Agility, it's basically impossible to come back out.

Also, having your heroes attack someone else diverts attention. Then while attention is diverted, you dive in and kill the enemy monk. You're definitely going to take less damage because the support network is gone.
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#62
Yeah as an assassin you usually don't want everyone else to be on your target. Waste of energy.
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Series
Banned
#63
Paragons and Mesmers=The worst classes in the game to some people? Holy crap. I really have no idea what the heck to comment about that. Wow, just wow.
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Str0b0
Desert Nomad
#64
Well paragons are fairly useless. Assassins aren't and most certainly mesmers are not.
Issac
Issac
Desert Nomad
#65
Scythe sins do crazy amounts of damage.
Coloneh
Coloneh
Furnace Stoker
#68
I like how people who like mesmers never have a reason to think mesmers are any good.
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Sqube
Lion's Arch Merchant
#69
Angra: I didn't forget, I just got tired of all the copying and pasting. Laziness and all that.

Coloneh: Really? I like mesmers, and I have good reason. I've played with quality mesmers who were able to shutdown key members of a mob (monks, other mesmers, etc.). The mesmer is a subtle roll, and you're not really going to notice it if you're not paying attention because they're not nuking anything, standing in the middle of 30 bad guys, or flipping all over the place.

It's easy to notice the effects that every other class has. You see shit falling from the sky, you see the guy in the middle of the mob, you see scythes, you see arrows, you notice minions, degen, hexes. Hell, you even see shouts and chants on your status bar.

An interrupt mesmer? If you're paying attention, all you'll see is some guy flipping quickly back to his feet. There's no announcement, there's no glowy aura around him showing that it happened. It just... does.
Guardian of the Light
Guardian of the Light
Forge Runner
#70
The most useless class is monks because they can't deal damage





In case you were wondering that was sarcasm.
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pingu666
Jungle Guide
#71
but if u want caster and non caster shutdown, in pve a ranger is better
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Narutard #1
Pre-Searing Cadet
#72
ok i am a narutard(i don'tmind u calling me that) and i still respect the sin...well i always did anyways i don think the sin is the worst but the best for my kind of style of fighting.on a better note can some one give me a good build cause even though my build is okay i need a better one
Kiba of hidden leaf
Kiba of hidden leaf
Frost Gate Guardian
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by pingu666
but if u want caster and non caster shutdown, in pve a ranger is better Mesmers are better at melee shutdown and caster shutdown hands down.

Rangers are actually better at caster shutdown than melee. Throw Dirt and traps are the only thing i see as shutdown(maybe even a crip shot which mesmers can equal with crippling anguish). Mesmers have Empathy Ineptitude Clumsiness and Spirit of Failure. So bring a PD with Empathy or Spirit of Failure and you have both caster and non caster shutdown. GG?
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Angra
Ascalonian Squire
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Coloneh I like how people who like mesmers never have a reason to think mesmers are any good. I nearly vomited when I read this.

Ever heard of...
Ineptitude? Clumsiness? Migraine? Backfire? Frustration? Power Block? Interrupts out the wazoo? Fast Cast?

I seriously hope you're kidding.

Mesmers can completely ruin a caster's entire build. Stick a interrupt mesmer on an MM and watch him make no minions. Shut down a monk. Ruin an Elementalist.

Sometimes even a physical, if they're playing badly and don't know how to handle it well.

I have to correct this statement:

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Originally Posted by Coloneh
I like how people who don't like mesmers never have a reason to think mesmers are any good because they never use them and see for themselves how good they are.
street peddler
street peddler
Wilds Pathfinder
#75
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There is no worst class. It's how you play it.
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There is no worst class. It's how you play it.
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There is no worst class. It's how you play it.
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arsie
Wilds Pathfinder
#76
Lets break it down.

Out of 10 professions, 3 are melee, and 7 are ranged. So touched ranged shutdown is less effective than ranged shutdown. Throw dirt comes to mind.

Out of 10 professions, 4 can do without spells, and 6 has to cast spells.*
* Warrior, Paragons, Assassins, Rangers CAN arguably do without spells. I feel that Dervishes cannot do without it.

If you bring weapon shutdown, you can shut down 5 professions. If you bring spell shutdown, you can shut down 6+ professions.

While Rangers as a profession is more versatile, Mesmers is probably the undisputed spell shutdown specialists.
Coloneh
Coloneh
Furnace Stoker
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by Angra I nearly vomited when I read this.

Ever heard of...
Ineptitude? Clumsiness? Migraine? Backfire? Frustration? Power Block? Interrupts out the wazoo? Fast Cast?

I seriously hope you're kidding.

Mesmers can completely ruin a caster's entire build. Stick a interrupt mesmer on an MM and watch him make no minions. Shut down a monk. Ruin an Elementalist.

Sometimes even a physical, if they're playing badly and don't know how to handle it well.

I have to correct this statement: Yes those skills are useful, but in PvE they are more useful on an Ele or a Necro. Fast casting is absolutely useless apart from speeding up rez chant.


Quote: Originally Posted by Sqube
Coloneh: Really? I like mesmers, and I have good reason. I've played with quality mesmers who were able to shutdown key members of a mob (monks, other mesmers, etc.). The mesmer is a subtle roll, and you're not really going to notice it if you're not paying attention because they're not nuking anything, standing in the middle of 30 bad guys, or flipping all over the place.

It's easy to notice the effects that every other class has. You see shit falling from the sky, you see the guy in the middle of the mob, you see scythes, you see arrows, you notice minions, degen, hexes. Hell, you even see shouts and chants on your status bar.

An interrupt mesmer? If you're paying attention, all you'll see is some guy flipping quickly back to his feet. There's no announcement, there's no glowy aura around him showing that it happened. It just... does. shutting down mobs is pointless, how about killing them instead?

an interrupt mesmer? are you kidding? thats all you could come up with?
1. interrupts are 99% useless in PvE
2. in that 1% where interrupts are useful a hero is going to a much more efficent interrupter than any human. faster.
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#78
Why are you talking about PvE? It's PvP that really shows how good characters can be.
haggus71
haggus71
Lion's Arch Merchant
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
Any class, is only as good/bad as the person who's playing it. QFT

Coloneh, just because you can't play a class well doesn't mean it sucks. Yes, any retard can slap a leet SF/SH build on their ele and cause massive AoE. Come across a good Power Block mesmer build, and that ele is useless and dead in five seconds.

Anyone that says certain classes suck has their head in the sand. I've played every class but Monk and Dervish, and they all have their points. Played by the right person, they will shine. The thing is to understand their mechanics and perform within those boundaries. As said ad infinitum, sins go in, kill the softie, then jump out or, if they are safe enough, jump to the next kill. Played that way, they are the most lethal 1-v-1 in the game.

It's one thing to say "I hate sins" or I hate playing mesmers". That is a matter of taste. Saying "Paragons suck" just shows your ignorance. That or just flaming for its own sake, which is just as lame.