All item duplication exploit (do not name players please)

One thing to say before I make my leave. What do you think A-Net can do about all the duped items?

I'm all for that, if it's possible. If there IS a way to ONLY PUNISH the dupers then of course I would be for it. But it doesn't seem likely as the dupers have already traded around to legitimate users, and most likely have multiple accounts that they could have stockpiled their duped items on.

Just saw a Monk in International District 1 with butterflies and the Assassin Enchantment around her running WAY faster than 50%... Her health bar also said she was enchanted..... In a town?

Does this have anything to do with what's going on right now, or is this completely unrelated?

Every time I click 'next page' there's 2 new pages...

What I'd like to know if the game is gonna Roll Back so I can immediately stop playing to not waste my time.

I wonder when will the StarNews team cover this event? Boy their rating will go sky high. Oh! and say no to dup item, kid.

0_o pix or it never happened

I've seen him panic-selling armbraces at rock bottom prices too. I'm not pointing fingers or anything but he's one of the mysterious high-end traders that has risen from a nobody in the clique of high-end traders to a dominating figure who has owned and proceeded to sell a kanaxai.

I've watched him closely and always smelled a rat. I assumed he was bidding on items to get his name recognised in the high end scene.

Are the butterflies are like Soothing Images and the assassin animations like Dash? Those are used when people consume some booze/sugar so i think he's just used a lot of Creme Brulees, Wine and Red Bean Cakes.

The enchantment in town is the sugar rush. (yes, it legitimately shows up as an enchantment in town)

I know there are a lot of armbraces out there; or used to be. Suddenly all of the WTS armbraces in Ascalon dis 1 are gone; this means fixed? I don't know. The thing I am worried about is the following. I've been saving for a couple of weeks now for an armbrace. Nearly got all of my gems and plan to trade them in today for a tormented recurve bow. But with all the fuss about duping, how can I know its safe to trade my gems directly to the keeper for an armbrace? And that there won't be a reset / reroll / whatever and I won't lose what I've been saving up for weeks now? How can one tell the difference between someone who's been saving up genuinely or someone who just duped his armbrace? Think its not safe to buy ANY armbraces right now and just wait until the storm calms down...

I agree with you..but does Anet know when this all started?.. There would have to be another Dragon festivle and a bunch of other things right before GW:EN, sounds kinda cluttered

Like said numerous times, rollback isn't a option now. They 'll have a few options. Leaving it as it is or replacing the whole ambrace system. I can't think of more options, even though we have discussed this intensively in the guild.

Sugary Blue Drink

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Check this link please from GURU Auctions LOL :



http://www.guildwarsguru.com/auction...RUTH&id=560123



DESCRIPTION
wts armbrace of truth...

I have 80 armbraces to sell, this auction is not for all armbraces so pm me in game to buy one.

in game name:xxxxxxxx
(1) armbrace:100k+45ecto or 65

Happy Bidding....


On Aug. 13, 2007 04:20:19, ashley has added:

This Auction is now closed, after i have heard a few rumours but they seem possitive leads it could be true i have got rid of all my ambraces here.

got few weapons for myself, and mates so they are all gone now and thanks for your time. oh and btw if ur thinking i duped it did not i sold my minature vizu & miniature kanaxai to some guy gave me very good offer didnt know that was a bad thing to do since all people trade in this game.

This Auction is Closed...Sorry.


Another track to explore for Anet LOL

Very disturbing...


What I've heard is that it is some sort of bug or mayb a hacker that put it in. People say duping armbrace's is duable by every one. I don't know how and i don't want to know.

If any1 hears from some1 how to do it: Report the person to Anet.



List of things that Anet can do to stop this:
-Make armbrace of truth untradeble
-Remove the re-connect function
-Remove all but 1 armbraces wenn u leave DoA
-Make it impossible to have more than 1 armbrace at a time
-Have constant bots watching for DC re-connect in DoA and kick players that are constantly re-connecting
-A new function that makes you leave wenn you traded the gems for the armbrace


List of things that we can do to help stop this:
-Do not sell your armbrace for less than a certain price(something like 100k+50e)
-If ur a duper: stop playing GW and go **** up another game
-Convince other people not to sell there armbrace for less then a certain price
-If u see some1 reconnecting all the time at the armbrace trader: report him to Anet

For the rest we cant do much about it then just wait.

I just have 1 message for the dupers:
Why do you wan't to **** up a perfect game like GW? If they find out what you're doing i hope they will ban you from every internet game in the universe..

This kind of people really upsets me

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Should have seen that one comming.

Here you are.
That explains the animations. Never seen those in town before...
But the enchantment and REALLY fast running is still puzzling... Probably just a small glitch in the system.

As an aside, I wonder if it's worth putting a warning or something in Ventari's--particularly the High End thread. I went for a wander and noticed a significant number of Gwens for sale, for instance. Should shoppers be made aware they could be buying duped items?

Just a thought. Doesn't hurt to be cautious...

I hope there is no roll back as I just spent over 12 hours this weekend on the ring game getting my luck and unlucky title passed lvl 1 on the way to lvl 2

I was just in there having a yell at all the Armbrace buyers. Told them the spot's already been tagged by this thread numerous times and that they won't find anything in Ascalon City.

Possible outcomes:
1) ANet suspended their accounts for a few hours to block buying the armbraces.
2) They were all sold the armbraces and have moved on.
3) They moved on after listening to me :P

From Wiki:

[edit] GuildWiki Notes
This update temporarily disabled the reconnect feature in the game to prevent further exploitation of a trade bug that allowed players to duplicate items using reconnection.

So, assuming you are right which I think is a mighty big assumption which I dont share but lets for arguments sake do so, you would suggest just to 'punish' these nefarious people to take away everything from all players over the last month.

I'm sorry but I dont see that as an acceptable solution and I highly doubt Anet would see that as viable either.
If the responsible people cannot be traced then so be it, I can live with that, rather a few that illegally obtained lots of (fake) money then stripping hundreds of thousands from their, however minor, archievements over the last month.

Lots of people still play diablo 2, and it's been hacked to buggery. Im sure GWs will soldier on. What will kill it is a rollback.

Anet even went to great lengths to make Arm Braces easier to obtain, this is just a nice simple way give the people what they want. The more there are, the cheaper they'll be. Stop crying.

Mini pets? You're all QQing for more of them (except me idgaf) so YOU GOT YOUR WISH. Besides anet plans to release more anyway soon enough.

Lastly, im sure Anet can easily run a program to find all the people who duped items, they'll get what's coming to them.

Quick Fix to problem: Make the trader trade 15 gem sets for a new item other than Armbrace, and make all old tormented have common skins like Starter weapons

Gaile, Karlos, I want you to quote me and tell me my idea is the best, cuz really it is, only the Uber rich would get shafted who did it legit, which, in that case, they can do it again when this takes place, i know a lot of other stuff got duped supposedly, but people right now, in the after math are still buying knowingly duped braces, make them pay!! sides, hell of a lot better idea than a roll back and DoA would be back in full swing...OTHER PEOPLE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK

The feature that people added so if they disconnected they could reconnect to a mission?

Oh noes!

i can see the whole dilemma of the economy, i can see the dilemma of ppl thinking they will never be able to own all the 1337157 gear, what i dont see, is all the fuss over a couple of stupid tiny char models that do absolutely nothing but show how stupid you are for spending so much money on a stupid tiny char model that does absolutely nothing........ yes i mean the damn panda and kanaxai. oh and also, they were meant to be more-or-less TROPHIES, why in the hell would you wanna own someone elses trophy? seriously......

btw, tormented shields are purple and gay :P gimme plagueborn, guardian or outcast shield any damn day of the week ^^

I can tell you haven't read any of my previous posts, probably because its a huge thread, but I said a short rollback of a few days to a week. I agree 1 month is definitely not reasonable, especially because I think the exploit has only become widespread recently. I just feel that something definitely needs to be done to the exploiters, they should not get away with no penalty. I'd rather have a short rollback then to have nothing happen to them at all. If A-net could punish them w/o the rollback , then awesome.

I read the suggestion waaay back in like Page 4 or something of this thread, it is not mine, however I don't have time to look for the original poster right now. If it was your idea then kudos to you, I think it's a good idea personally.

Its like finding a needle in a hay stack, the only way to maybe find one of the original people duping is if they check the chat logs to some one bragging about it, then again it isn't entirely 100% accurate.

To check the chat logs would be impossible to do, because with about 500k active players in GW, it would be too much of an effort.

With this hack, it means that " unique " minipets are no longer unique as panda's or kanaxai etc, can be duplicated? Hate to say it, but I agree with above as in my opinion a rollback is the only possibility. To find all the players that have used this exploit is simply impossible. And punishing half of them and letting the other half get away with it isnt quite fair aswel isnt it?

Whilst I know it's caused bad things to happen to the economy etc, going to be annoying to those of us who have just achieved certain goals, e.g. just took a char through GoM and Abaddons Gate within the last week.

From the looks of the update notes, the problem has been fixed, and evidence will be seen within the next few days if they keep it up. However whilst prices have been affected, if this exploit has been removed slowly the ambraces will filter out into the general community and peoples stacks will gradually diminish

I hate this idea. I hold a valid Tormented Staff which is the result of around a month of trading and farming. Getting it removed would totally disappoint me. Argh, why has this issue been undetected for so long...

Additionally, the problem is not limited to armbraces and tormented items. The smarter dupers are very likely to have duped other items that have been slipped into the economy unnoticed...

Such explosions in these types of games have always fascinated me. The most bewildering part is that this has happened in GW - not because I was moronic enough to assume that Anet would be infallible, but because the game/nature of items barely lends itself to this sort of thing. Having a quadrillion ecto, armbraces, or whatever else... leads to, wait for it, ZERO impact on gameplay. You can have ecto studded armor, req 7 crystalline swords, or an inventory of torment items but you still have 60 AL, and you still do the same damage. At least in games like Diablo 2 more expensive items typically meant you could kill thing faster, or better, or gain some statistical advantage, no matter how insignificantly small or stupid. For all intents and purposes, this doesn't exist in GW.

The "high end" economy, and I use the term super loosely to describe anything that costs more than 1k, (with a few exceptions like rune prices) has never, ever, been about anything but meaningless aesthetics. When it comes down to it, the hysteria and shouts that the game is ruined emanate from the fact that people have spent an inordinate amount of time and emotional investment ("worked" or "farmed forever!") for a few shinier looking skins or worse yet, "req7-8-9" items and the insipid idea of minipets. I mean sure, I can see the fun in collecting and having rare things, but how much fun can you really have standing in town and having people admire your minipet? Do people REALLY feel like it's some measure of accomplishment that their sword says "req 7" instead of "req 10"? For crap's sake, it doesn't even do anything!

If you've logged thousands of hours because you enjoy the game, then sit down and shut up, nothing has changed. If you've been striving to be "rich" since the beginning, then surely you SHOULD have known that one day, your empire of items would be worth NOTHING - be it because of game changes, the unlimited influx of new items, or a simple matter of time. If you logged tons of hours and spent for things you consider "pretty", guess what, they're still pretty. If you spent hundreds of hours working for a minipet or that req 8 crystalline and you feel empty now... consider the fact that you spent hundreds of hours working... for a minipet or a sword that says "req 8" instead of "req 13". No one's time has been wasted any more or any less since Friday, or since June because the [/I]very pursuit of games is to pass some time[I]. This isn't armageddon, get a grip.

Lots of people are selling cheap armbraces. Is it wrong for me to buy one?

Kudos to you.

I reckon you could get away with buying one (its still a risk), but im not sure you would keep the armbrace. You may keep the weapon if you swapped quickly.

how cheap? I might get in to buy one if it's at an acceptable price.

Argh. ANet better shuts down the servers and remove the duped items or rollback this day. If not it gets more and more difficult to track the duped items.

This is exactly why i want all existing Tormented's to be turned into Starter Skins, He knows they're duped, and hes going to probably pay 30k for 1, which is ridiculously low, and be content that he has a tormented, free and clear, while others have spent months like some good people on this thread have already posted, ooo and about my idea of making the trader take a different item other than armbrace, what do you think of "Legbrace of Truth"?

QFT!

Very good, salient post.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce