All item duplication exploit (do not name players please)

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I just got my 1st Lucky title this weekend
and got lots of pressys
oh well if there is a rollback for a few days hope we get the festival back
3rd time lucky they say.

tpolisher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

I neither duplicated, not bought any of these items. I however am a bit concerned with how Anet will handle this particular exploit. Anything other than taking the duped armbraces out of the game (and this is going to affect those who have paid for them) is going to be unfair to players.

If they have to roll back the entire game to "fix" this it would be 100% BS as players like myself who were completely oblivious to this until today have spent our time playing the game, leveling characters, gaining titles which would all go poof?!?

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
Plus, keep in mind that there will be a bunch of new, desirable stuff that is dupe-free in two weeks.
Hopefully it is dupe-free. Besides, look at all the insanely rich people now because of this.

All we need now is....

"2021 Armbraces of Truth have been sold to the merchant"

"Mallyx walks the earth"

cyber tuga

cyber tuga

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

portugal

DARK :)

W/

some want a rollback but i have made about 450k in this weekend i dont want lost all i made and getted my lucky title too
i think the rollback isnt the best option

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Hopefully it is dupe-free. Besides, look at all the insanely rich people now because of this.

All we need now is....

"2021 Armbraces of Truth have been sold to the merchant"

"Mallyx walks the earth"
lmao ^^

yeh let's do this
a Guild Wars World Event, but i dont wanna get Green item crap ^^

jeffersons

jeffersons

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

[KH]

W/

i got my cartographer titles this weekend, i don't need a rollback, just get over armbraces that's not so bad

Passive Keke

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Dont Panic Just Resign [boO]

R/

How about they make the armbrace useless. The DoA trader now gives you something else that is not an armbrace, say....a Necklace of Truth. Obviously some people worked hard for their armbraces; so you can change your armbraces for the necklace but their is a limit on how many you can change. An amount of 2 limit maybe more~ or a time limit, all those with armbrace in the last 3 days can change them ~dunno just an idea.

Predator [CD]

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

No roll-back please, ANet!!! Just ban all who used this exploit! That's all we really need.

wakimon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Philippines

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Hopefully it is dupe-free. Besides, look at all the insanely rich people now because of this.

All we need now is....

"2021 Armbraces of Truth have been sold to the merchant"

"Mallyx walks the earth"


lol lets hunt uber diablo err i mean uber mallyx

Disturbed Yuna

Disturbed Yuna

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Somewhere I belong

Mental Assylum For The Hopeless [NutZ]

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Hopefully it is dupe-free. Besides, look at all the insanely rich people now because of this.

All we need now is....

"2021 Armbraces of Truth have been sold to the merchant"

"Mallyx walks the earth"
You sir have just made my day
Sells SoJ to merchant

anyways back on topic they should delete each duped armbraces people who payed for them knew the risk just like that time when the Ascalon axe was out the SoA.

Tanque

Tanque

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Legendary Survivors[TLS]

N/

Rollback is not an option.It won't fix this even if they ban all players they can buy the game again do it all and use the exploit.And someone said a new char can do it so its even worse.rollback=angry players and no fix.the only rollback that will fix all this will be a 2 year rollback.Why things happen in good moments?Gw:en is coming and this.

Tanque Solution(lol):Make all players that trade ambraces of truth for anything(includes the collector that gives weapons)be killable in the outpost and get perma death when they die!This includes selin the ambrace to the merchant(if you can since i never had an ambrace).Of course they can't figth back.

sythmoi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

YAY..I smell a tripple gemstone drop weekend comming up....

OH I think a lot of people are looking at armbraces are at fault, I rather think duping items are, I mean if it is just armbraces then make em customized (soz if someone said this).

roperratt

roperratt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon

Light Infantry Brigade

R/

I think the best way A-net can fix this is to give everyone who asks for it their own Vizu mini-pet. A-net if you give me a mini-Vizu I am willing to forget all about this sordid affair.

Tarkin

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

I cant belive someone can get to may Armbrace of Truth for a normal way...

If you dupe a Armbrace of Truth...
You can dupe anything?... ectos? safires?...
...

How fix it? i scared...

Reroll, not the answer to me...

How many stacks of armbraces, ectos, safires, diamonds... are in storage just now?

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

There's an in-game rumor that trading is now impossible. Can anyone confirm? I'm traveling with an ancient laptop, and it would take me fifteen to twenty minutes to try to confirm.

The claim is that trading now gives an error message. Could just be some yahoo that doesn't understand that you can't hold over 100k in your hands at one time.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator [CD]
As I understand this exploit worked the following way:

- 2 guys zone in some location.
- 1st guy opens trade and puts ambrance(s) into trade window, presses Submitt and Accept.
- 2nd guy presses Submitt also.
- 1st guy kills his gw.exe process.
- 2nd guy presses Accept right after previous action and gots Ambrance.
- 1st guy uses reconnect feature (his Ambrance should be still in his inventory.

How to fix it: it's pretty easy! Just add checking for both seller and buyer are online after they both pressed Accept! Server needs just "ping" both before "make" trade.

P.S. Sorry for my bad English.
I'm sure they will fix or have fixed the exploit. The question now is how ANet is going to deal with the already duped items that players have in their inventories and flood the market.

squan

squan

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Rotterdam (The Netherlands)

Rotterdam Pride

Mo/

well lets hope anet will come with a good solution.
i know 1 thing the gw econemy is holy for GW.

tpolisher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Net Flanders
Let's pray for a roll-back ...
Pray for a rollback? Only a rollback of the armbrace trader and armbraces themselves would be fair. An entire rollback of the game would cost those of us who were completely oblivious to this until today a great deal in hours spent just playing the game. And I don't know about you but my time is a bit more valuable to me that 1,000's of armbraces.

I pray Anet has more sense of fair play than that!

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by sythmoi
YAY..I smell a tripple gemstone drop weekend comming up....
HAHAHA, ace!

That would be soo Anet (don't get me wrong, I like those dudez )

How about a three-for-one Armbrace weekend after that?

Cheers and heads up,
Timebandit

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I have decided not to try to buy an armbrance-.-
I really dont want my GW:EN money to be drained buying an armbrance just to have it deleted.

TiNkLeR

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

lol, i just sold a mini - thorn wolf for 150 armbraces :S Am i screwed? It was tempting... i only have 35, cuz i gave them to my guild and that stuff..


oh my god , im screwed =|

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

stop whining and stop begging for a Rollback

Zaris

Zaris

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Netherlands

All the ambraces gained THAT day should be removed
not the whole guildwars world reset that would be punishing all the players

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Gaile any update on which course of action u guys are taking? Wouldn't be smart for people to be playing now if you were to be doing a rollback of [insert time frame]. And I think a rollback for the moment when this thread was created is a viable option, because they want to get rid of them fast.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

well the ones that have really been hurt by this are people that have trade legit items for these armbraces....either way you go they are screwed. the common people such as myself ....it really doesn't affect since this type of money and items are normally out of our league....but for the high end players...the legit ones...it sucks.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Gaile any update on which course of action u guys are taking? Wouldn't be smart for people to be playing now if you were to be doing a rollback of [insert time frame]. And I think a rollback for the moment when this thread was created is a viable option, because they want to get rid of them fast.
Wow lol..this will not get rid of them, I'm assuming this has been going on for over a month, and that would be a pretty lenient assumption.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

The rollback is a rumor, it will never happen.

Acehigh

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

If Anet has the ability to roll back a month,i doubt they will.I don't think they are stupid enough to do that,too many people would quit/cry on forums imo.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Gaile any update on which course of action u guys are taking? Wouldn't be smart for people to be playing now if you were to be doing a rollback of [insert time frame]. And I think a rollback for the moment when this thread was created is a viable option, because they want to get rid of them fast.
I think Gaile might be sleeping now considering things like time zones. Its now 6:54 in Seattle.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I have never even seen an Armbrace now I don't want to.
Well I'm not playing anymore till they decide what to do but
I want my "Fesitval" presents and lucky title retained please.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

On the bright side this does mean i was 100% correct at the start of this thread

It HAS been going on for way longer than 1 month, it has nothing to do with DoA and people just recently got way too greedy and started duplicating Armbraces.

Problem is theres probably quite alot of lesser things that have been duped for personal gain... put 1750 Creme Brules into a trade window and duplicate them a few times, entire account has Conoisseur. Duplicate a few r8 Crystallines your account has a full set of them and your Koss can suck in style. Copy a few lots of Ectos/Shards and your account gets FoW.

Obviously someone just got greedy and stupid recently... whose to say the others using it weren't more careful.

Sub Frost

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

R/

Waiting for Anet official position regarding this subject.

/pulls chair

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiNkLeR
lol, i just sold a mini - thorn wolf for 150 armbraces :S Am i screwed? It was tempting... i only have 35, cuz i gave them to my guild and that stuff..


oh my god , im screwed =|
Should I laugh or cry now? It took me a fricken month of in-game working (merchanting, farming) to obtain all the gemsets for an armbrace and now ppl get 150 armbraces for a stupid minipet. It feels so unfair...

PS. Nothing against you personally TiNkLeR, but this software error just sucks.

enlightened

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The League Of Friends

W/Mo

They should just spot anyone with more than 10 of these things and replace x with 10. Job done!

ProgTes

ProgTes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Under that rock.

We Demand A Shrubbery [Ni]

W/E

It's probably been said before, but he more oppinions the better, aye... The best idea in my opinion is the following.
- Like Passive Keke said, create a new item, say, the Necklace of Truth.
- From now on, all Armbraces of Truth are completely useless.
- Tormented Weapons can be acquired by handing over a Necklace.
- A new quest is added, like with 'Money Back Guarantee'. This involves bringing the quest giver 1 Armbrace of Truth. As a reward, you recieve one Necklace of Truth.
- This way, people that have acquired teir Armbrace by hard work and saving will not have done it for nothing.
- The people that have duped 100's of Armbraces are stuck with useless items.

The only flaw imo being is that people who have acquired more then one Armbrace the legal way are stuck with it... But otherwise it's as fair as I can imagine.

joze

joze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hello.
Just a quick reminder to all the dupers out there, this is what the Guild Wars EULA clearly says about messing around with us honorable players.

Direct quote from GuildWars.com:

Quote:
Permanent Account Terminations

Obviously, we do not terminate the accounts of Guild Wars players without cause. We exercise careful judgment in every case of an account termination, and we will use the mark system instead of outright account termination if that seems sufficient to address the misbehavior. However, we will review breaches of the Rules of Conduct and the User Agreement with close attention to the most flagrant forms of rules abuse. In instances like these, particularly when we perceive a risk of substantial real or potential harm to the Guild Wars community or to the game's stability, an account can and will be permanently terminated.
*EDIT* This also goes to all of you who KNOW you have been trading with dupers. Doing so creates, just as the rules says, a substantial real or potential harm to the community.

So before you go back to Guild Wars, thinking that you can get away from this. Remember, A-Net has logs. A-Net has SQL. A-Net has a permanent account termnation for you.

And to all of those who deny you are duping, stop it. We know you are. A-Net has helpers.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

People talking about a rollback for 'just a couple of days' please calm down real fast.

This exploit has been possible for ages, it seems, and what impact has it had on the average player? Answer: NONE AT ALL.

What impact would a rollback, any kind of rollback, whether a hour, a day, a month have on the average player? HUGE IMPACT.

The main impact would be to utterly destroy confidence that GW is worth investing any time in. With no new campaigns for a year, and the introduction of HM, the game is a lot about grind. Now you want A-Net to press a key and wipe away people's achievements?

Just as an example:

This weekend, with the festival re-run, my PC spent 45 hours connected to GW getting from Lucky 1 to Lucky 3 (for a poxy 4% lockpick retention benefit). I spent the whole weekend sitting on 9 rings grabbing fesitval prizes and, after these fesitval prizes had dried up, I went and maybe put in 10-15 hours' Hard Mode farming with my 55 monk to raise cash to keep buying festival tickets so I could get up over 300,000 on Lucky before the festival finished.

Basically I have spent the whole weekend in front of the PC and already felt like an idiot for ignoring the real world, but I justified it to myself that it was a festival and these things only happen a handful of times a year and the opportunity must be used, and in the long term I would benefit from the grind investment (I certainly didn't have 'fun'….just the grim satisfaction that comes from sustained grind…fun is for another day).

Now, shortsighted people are saying that due to some scam that affects 0.001% of the GW community, people like me should have their weekend's efforts erased. Well, let's just say that it will be the end of GW and GW:EN for me, and a huge host of ordinary players. The vast majority of us don't play DOA and have never seen a tormented weapon anyway and - for the benefit of anyone that wants to see them - check them out on wiki. They are totally fugly and have the stats of something that can be made for free by picking up bits and pieces that drop when you kill any old monsters.

This is madness. ANY KIND OF ROLLBACK WILL KILL GW FOR VERY MANY PEOPLE. DO NOT DO IT.

I think that Gaile needs to come on here or somewhere and state categorically that A-Net are not going to rollback over this. Already everyone in my guild is saying don't play GW until this is confirmed - you're wasting your time, they're going to rollback everything we do, blah. In times of crisis we need the government (A-Net) to communicate properly and build confidence. A-Net please communicate now that you are not going to rollback. The longer this goes on without communication, the more damage is done to confidence. What's the point of anyone playing at all with the threat of rollback over them?

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

me just woke up, me want to sleep forever.........................Q_Q

Master Kaii

Master Kaii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

LoSt

Mo/

WTB Armbraces =] PM Me ingame =]

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
Wow lol..this will not get rid of them, I'm assuming this has been going on for over a month, and that would be a pretty lenient assumption.
I know that and it's not only for ambraces, also for ecto's and the likes.

But imagne this conversation while pugging. (Yeah who does that these days anyways? )
Person A: Oh nice torment shield you have, where does that drop?
Person B: Option 1) I farmed a lot of hours in doa to get it
Option 2) Payed 100K + 60Ecto's plus for it
Person C: Ha ha ha ha noob lol i got this tormented sword + shield for 50k both sucker
Person B: rage quit!
Person A: Damn I would like some duped stuff too