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Originally Posted by majoho
ignorance is no excuse.
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Couldn't they have a refund? If you bought an tormented weapon before today, you get 10 * 4 gems back?
All item duplication exploit (do not name players please)
mr_groovy
Couldn't they have a refund? If you bought an tormented weapon before today, you get 10 * 4 gems back?
thechunkymonkey
i couldnt say his name i know who started all the duplicating just dont know how but because of him i lost my account well i really aint gonna sit around and lose 2,000 hours of playtime im gonna try to get my items reactivated.
The Herbalizer
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Originally Posted by majoho
ignorance is no excuse.
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I am sure Anet can check the chat logs etc. and be able to tell who really are the innocent / guilty parties.
If there are alot of banned innocent players and they are all on forums kicking up a fuss Anet would have to deal with them as it really does not look good for Anet.
Although if I was banned and guilty I would pretend I was innocent kick up a fuss on a forum and hope Anet dont check things thoroughly due to the recent mayhem and unban my guilty arse
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Originally Posted by thechunkymonkey
i couldnt say his name i know who started all the duplicating just dont know how but because of him i lost my account well i really aint gonna sit around and lose 2,000 hours of playtime im gonna try to get my items reactivated.
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If you did know prior to this you had a duty to report him/her to Anet.
I really cannot feel sorry for you if you knew prior to the duping becoming public knowledge.
Ri3tN
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Originally Posted by thechunkymonkey
i just want to know if my account can get reactivated because the reason i was banned is my friend gave me items i did not know there where duplicated items i really need someones help here
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Saldeas
i just really hope when gw2 comes out and they start to introduce new features and what not, that they actually make sure they aren't bugged. i recently got legendary survivor and the whole time i played i was really excited, but not that i have it... i dont really care about gw anymore. i found that if you want to feel really good about yourself in gw you have to spend way more time than im willing to spend. me, and many people i know who play the game are looking for a fresh start so until than, this game seems pointless.
Stoneys Rock
I think people are missing the point if arena net has banned alot of these people who most likely haven't sold over 1k armbraces which is really hard..I assume. Then once all this is over only say a minority of the game will have gotten these and will most likely go straight for the weapons asap. So give or take a few weeks and the price will likely go up.
I really hope the reconnect feature comes back btw =P got several disconnects while we were doing some GvG battles and want it more so in explorable i.e. vanquishing. ^^ I really commend arena net for taking swift action though.
I really hope the reconnect feature comes back btw =P got several disconnects while we were doing some GvG battles and want it more so in explorable i.e. vanquishing. ^^ I really commend arena net for taking swift action though.
NJudson
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Originally Posted by AngeloM3
Ok seeing that the exploit has been fixed.....
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So what exactly was the exploit that has caused such a fuss?
arcanemacabre
Just want to show my support for Enko and Fenix. Hope you guys (if Fenix got banned, not clear) get your accounts back shortly. Vigilantism must be rewarded, not punished! So, yeah, give these guys their accounts back and a free, rare minipet as a thank you!
...and enter the rain of "I've been wrongfully banned!" posts...
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Originally Posted by thechunkymonkey
i couldnt say his name i know who started all the duplicating just dont know how but because of him i lost my account well i really aint gonna sit around and lose 2,000 hours of playtime im gonna try to get my items reactivated.
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The Herbalizer
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Originally Posted by Ri3tN
not pointing any fingers.. but i seem to recall you buying high end minis at ridiculous (sp?) prices. i.e mini kanaxai 500 armbraces, panda 250 armbraces
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Cant wait for more guilty people to come on here pretending they are innocent.
The "Ive Been Banned" threads / posts should prove an interesting read over the next few days.
Holz
I still don't understand why 90% of you people get soooo emotional about this, ranting to Arenanet, ranting towards other players.. what is your problem? Do you post here to be cool, to join the club? It's not like exploits like this pop up every week, I played Guild Wars for 12 months with a large, 7 month break and I have never heard of such an exploit or bug. Please get some reference. e.g. Do you think all the cheats/hacks are detectable and banned in the biggest FPS's in the world (First Person Shooters)? There are still people using aimbots in high end leagues (in Counter-Strike: Source for example), if you ask me, that is way worse than some PvE exploit that doesn't affect the casual player at all 
... Also WoW suffers way more servercrashes, and other stuff that shouldn't happen. OMG, one exploit on a yearly basis, pretty good if you ask me 
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... Also WoW suffers way more servercrashes, and other stuff that shouldn't happen. OMG, one exploit on a yearly basis, pretty good if you ask me .
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i couldnt say his name i know who started all the duplicating just dont know how but because of him i lost my account well i really aint gonna sit around and lose 2,000 hours of playtime im gonna try to get my items reactivated.
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Good luck in your appeal.
GloryFox
@thechunkymonkey
I'm sorry to say this but thats like a friend saying here have an Austin Martin, I know I can't conceivably buy an Austin Martin but have one anyways, and no questions asked.
Right...
I can see helping a friend out with buying 15k armor as a gift or even giving a friend 100k but PLEASE! Think about it how many Armbraces did you have?, how many did your "friend" give you? and you had not idea as to how he got it?
Spare Us!
Now go rethink your life.
I'm sorry to say this but thats like a friend saying here have an Austin Martin, I know I can't conceivably buy an Austin Martin but have one anyways, and no questions asked.
Right...
I can see helping a friend out with buying 15k armor as a gift or even giving a friend 100k but PLEASE! Think about it how many Armbraces did you have?, how many did your "friend" give you? and you had not idea as to how he got it?
Spare Us!
Now go rethink your life.
majoho
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Originally Posted by Saldeas
i just really hope when gw2 comes out and they start to introduce new features and what not, that they actually make sure they aren't bugged. i recently got legendary survivor and the whole time i played i was really excited, but not that i have it... i dont really care about gw anymore. i found that if you want to feel really good about yourself in gw you have to spend way more time than im willing to spend. me, and many people i know who play the game are looking for a fresh start so until than, this game seems pointless.
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there are some ways how they do it I think they did it like this:
Buying cash on goldsites or either bots. Then buy gemsets and on a special moment of the day the chance is increased getting a armbrace. Or they use a reconnect error that let them get multiplie gems from chests. Like when they open the chest they catch them in air or something and then relog and go back in to chest. But I personnally think they made a trick with logging out of the account. Cause it hasnt began before that update did not came.
Greets, The Eternal King
Buying cash on goldsites or either bots. Then buy gemsets and on a special moment of the day the chance is increased getting a armbrace. Or they use a reconnect error that let them get multiplie gems from chests. Like when they open the chest they catch them in air or something and then relog and go back in to chest. But I personnally think they made a trick with logging out of the account. Cause it hasnt began before that update did not came.
Greets, The Eternal King
Bubba
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Originally Posted by mr_groovy
isn't it ignorant is bless?
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Or I've been watching too many movies in which they used it that way
jrk247
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Just want to show my support for Enko and Fenix. Hope you guys (if Fenix got banned, not clear) get your accounts back shortly. Vigilantism must be rewarded, not punished! So, yeah, give these guys their accounts back and a free, rare minipet as a thank you!
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Inner Salbat
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Just FYI: We will not be doing a rollback. There is no need to do so. We banned a significant number of players involved in the exploit, and we're continuing to research to ascertain whether other bans will be necessary. But according to Mike O'Brien -- who oughta know
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Fates
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there are some ways how they do it I think they did it like this:
Buying cash on goldsites or either bots. Then buy gemsets and on a special moment of the day the chance is increased getting a armbrace. Or they use a reconnect error that let them get multiplie gems from chests. Like when they open the chest they catch them in air or something and then relog and go back in to chest. But I personnally think they made a trick with logging out of the account. Cause it hasnt began before that update did not came. Greets, The Eternal King |
Lothlorian Sassun
Let the Buyer Beware. If something is to good to be true then it probably is. Who is more at fault? The Hit Man or the Person who hires the hit man? If you took several Stacks of Armbrace's and seriously thought something fishy was not going on then you deserve to be banned. Don't tell me that you thought a guild member was just passing out that many Armbraces cause he got them fair and square. Once an Exploit is found out I'm almost positive the guild member would be to full of himself not to tell how he got them. It is very hard for people to keep a secret. I think that many in once persons inventory is pretty rare.
Stoneys Rock
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Lulz.
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@thechunkymonkey
I'm sorry to say this but thats like a friend saying here have an Austin Martin, I know I can't conceivably buy an Austin Martin but have one anyways, and no questions asked. Right... I can see helping a friend out with buying 15k armor as a gift or even giving a friend 100k but PLEASE! Think about it how many Armbraces did you have?, how many did your "friend" give you? and you had not idea as to how he got it? Spare Us! Now go rethink your life. |
I think this is all clearing up now. Hopefully arm braces will go back to near they're normal selves soon.
arcanemacabre
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They still exploited the game even if it was just to get proof of this exploit it broke the rules. They don't deserve any special treatment.
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Your logic astounds me.
Lynx Of Ithorian
What makes me laugh the most about this is the people claiming they were given the items and didnt know they were gained through an exploit. HELLO ?people dont just give away items worth 100k+50ecto , your not fooling anyone and you deserve a ban just as much as the people using the exploit.
pvxbuilds
Issue just looks to be fixed, but its not.
1. Banning a few users who was so stupid and made 1000 copies of AoT.
What does it solve? Okey it filters out really stupid players. Does it effect people who have been doing it for a long time? no.
2. GW based on database. Sure you can run a script that will list how many people had zerp AoT yesterday and how many have more then 100 today. Okey - ban those - problem fixed? no.
People who started this has been doing it for quite some time as I understand. Smart people maybe made 10-20 AoT and stored across a several accounts. Average player with 20 AoT (thats 1200 ecto) will be suited for life. And all what is needed - a bit of a brain, 3-4 accounts and 5 AoT on each.
What banning solve. Well its a PR trick to scare away people who give impression that we have this under controll. What is actually does is covering up the real truth behind and delaying the problem. Its a nice way to make another PR we-do-care banning session just to make sure people buy GW:EN. Kinda bad timing ?
Some accounts was banned yes, but was they all banned? Simply not possible. So what looks now as a solution is actually no solution at all. Some people made a real good buck on this exploit and many will walk away. Hey maybe some smart guys gave away this "secret" exploit to cover up their dirty work?
In long therm we will see more and more arm brace to enter the marked - it just this time people behind it will be making real cash out of it and not the 1-10k.
The only solution at this point as I see it, is to make AoT useless (not possible to trade for anything) and introduce AoT2 or something. After all how many people have 10 Armbrace's in they storage as "money storage"?.. Some guys like ecto plasm with nice auction a few days before with 250 AoT... they wont loose much anyway.
1. Banning a few users who was so stupid and made 1000 copies of AoT.
What does it solve? Okey it filters out really stupid players. Does it effect people who have been doing it for a long time? no.
2. GW based on database. Sure you can run a script that will list how many people had zerp AoT yesterday and how many have more then 100 today. Okey - ban those - problem fixed? no.
People who started this has been doing it for quite some time as I understand. Smart people maybe made 10-20 AoT and stored across a several accounts. Average player with 20 AoT (thats 1200 ecto) will be suited for life. And all what is needed - a bit of a brain, 3-4 accounts and 5 AoT on each.
What banning solve. Well its a PR trick to scare away people who give impression that we have this under controll. What is actually does is covering up the real truth behind and delaying the problem. Its a nice way to make another PR we-do-care banning session just to make sure people buy GW:EN. Kinda bad timing ?
Some accounts was banned yes, but was they all banned? Simply not possible. So what looks now as a solution is actually no solution at all. Some people made a real good buck on this exploit and many will walk away. Hey maybe some smart guys gave away this "secret" exploit to cover up their dirty work?
In long therm we will see more and more arm brace to enter the marked - it just this time people behind it will be making real cash out of it and not the 1-10k.
The only solution at this point as I see it, is to make AoT useless (not possible to trade for anything) and introduce AoT2 or something. After all how many people have 10 Armbrace's in they storage as "money storage"?.. Some guys like ecto plasm with nice auction a few days before with 250 AoT... they wont loose much anyway.
majoho
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I believe it's ignorance is bliss
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Ignorance (of the law) is no excuse (for not abiding by it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoran...is_non_excusat
Loviatar
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Stoneys Rock
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What makes me laugh the most about this is the people claiming they were given the items and didnt know they were gained through an exploit. HELLO ?people dont just give away items worth 100k+50ecto , your not fooling anyone and you deserve a ban just as much as the people using the exploit.
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thechunkymonkey
ok u want to know how he did it he just told me... listen carefully now...
You need two computers and a person online to help u trade stuff...
1st take someone in any mission with u for trading u need two computers for this part...
K now u disconect ur internet on the first computer and u sign in on ur second computer on the same charactar since the first one has no internet u will go in to the town of the mission but not the mission itself on the second computer but the town on the exact same char this will take a few tries to get right... u will have to exit out of teh second computer and reload back in a few times till u get it right then... once u load in to town on second pc recont internet on first pc then reconect back into mission and walla ur on two times at once... u get on ur first computer and trade ur items u want to dupe to the person u braught in the mission with u then the person u traded with goes back in town and gives the items to the second version of u in town and u exit out of first computer and bam u have double items that is what my friend said idk i never did it i just want my account back..
You need two computers and a person online to help u trade stuff...
1st take someone in any mission with u for trading u need two computers for this part...
K now u disconect ur internet on the first computer and u sign in on ur second computer on the same charactar since the first one has no internet u will go in to the town of the mission but not the mission itself on the second computer but the town on the exact same char this will take a few tries to get right... u will have to exit out of teh second computer and reload back in a few times till u get it right then... once u load in to town on second pc recont internet on first pc then reconect back into mission and walla ur on two times at once... u get on ur first computer and trade ur items u want to dupe to the person u braught in the mission with u then the person u traded with goes back in town and gives the items to the second version of u in town and u exit out of first computer and bam u have double items that is what my friend said idk i never did it i just want my account back..
jrk247
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Oh, well I guess you would've shown the exploit a different way that didn't "break the rules", huh? I suppose that means anyone who turns in a bug report is really using exploits themselves to show the bug in the first place, thus breaking the rules, right?
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Bubba
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I guess I have to spell it out then
Ignorance (of the law) is no excuse (for not abiding by it) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoran...is_non_excusat |
TheLordOfBlah
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ok u want to know how he did it he just told me... listen carefully now...
You need two computers and a person online to help u trade stuff... 1st take someone in any mission with u for trading u need two computers for this part... K now u disconect ur internet on the first computer and u sign in on ur second computer on the same charactar since the first one has no internet u will go in to the town of the mission but not the mission itself on the second computer but the town on the exact same char this will take a few tries to get right... u will have to exit out of teh second computer and reload back in a few times till u get it right then... once u load in to town on second pc recont internet on first pc then reconect back into mission and walla ur on two times at once... u get on ur first computer and trade ur items u want to dupe to the person u braught in the mission with u then the person u traded with goes back in town and gives the items to the second version of u in town and u exit out of first computer and bam u have double items that is what my friend said idk i never did it i just want my account back.. |
jrk247
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sorry to spoil your day ah but they already have them back with Anets thanks
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thechunkymonkey
it wasnt me who did it u honkey my friend he just now told me after all this i just want my account back i did not do it..he gave me free items i did not know they where duped
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Joseph Rejekt
Whatever happens in the armbrace issue happens.. the one issue i'm SICK OF READING AND HEARING ABOUT IS ECTOS!!
Guys... let's set the record straight. Over the winter we had winterfest.. everyone was on break.. people were beating Nightfall with their paragons and dervies and ectos became a commodity because well.. FoW armor on their new characters. Makes sense right? Now.. between that time and when Hard Mode came around... ectos dropped to 9k each at the mat trader. Seeing as the market is something I actively watch, this is something i paid attention to. Now... with that said, when Hard Mode was unleashed and suddenly scrolls came about for access to UW during times we didn't have favor, it exposed the ability to play in UW even more. Hard Mode introduced increased drops, UW scrolls introduced more chances for that to happen. Now... there was something that for a couple weeks i'd noticed that a lot of the long time players actually sold all their ectos, equip... everything and hoarded their gold and quit GW. I noticed this because a few friends of mine did it... several posts were here on guru of people actually selling their ectos and not in OVER abundance. I have 294 ectos myself. I want you guys to think about all these factors for a moment. One more thing to mention and i'm sure someone is going to want to say something... LOOT SCALING! For those who know it know that rare mats are unaffected by Loot Scaling, meaning that a person can still solo UW and farm ectos on his or her own. So you wanna know what happened to ectos? Look no further than what i just read. Are ectos duped? If they were duped... you honestly think they'd be 5.5k? No! Ectos would be about the same price as your ambers, jades, and steel ingots... NOT around the price of a ruby or diamond. So lets get our heads outta our backsides and wake up. One more thing... Ectos did spike briefly this past Thursday/Friday to 7k and then dropped suddenly (as expected) when the festival started. For those who have paid attention over the years... when a festival comes to town, ectos drop. Feel free to speculate, criticize... whatever all you want. You take 5 - 10 min to really think about it... look into it... see how ectos didn't just suddenly DROP overnight but rather trickled down over what was actually months... you'll see that I'm right.
Guys... let's set the record straight. Over the winter we had winterfest.. everyone was on break.. people were beating Nightfall with their paragons and dervies and ectos became a commodity because well.. FoW armor on their new characters. Makes sense right? Now.. between that time and when Hard Mode came around... ectos dropped to 9k each at the mat trader. Seeing as the market is something I actively watch, this is something i paid attention to. Now... with that said, when Hard Mode was unleashed and suddenly scrolls came about for access to UW during times we didn't have favor, it exposed the ability to play in UW even more. Hard Mode introduced increased drops, UW scrolls introduced more chances for that to happen. Now... there was something that for a couple weeks i'd noticed that a lot of the long time players actually sold all their ectos, equip... everything and hoarded their gold and quit GW. I noticed this because a few friends of mine did it... several posts were here on guru of people actually selling their ectos and not in OVER abundance. I have 294 ectos myself. I want you guys to think about all these factors for a moment. One more thing to mention and i'm sure someone is going to want to say something... LOOT SCALING! For those who know it know that rare mats are unaffected by Loot Scaling, meaning that a person can still solo UW and farm ectos on his or her own. So you wanna know what happened to ectos? Look no further than what i just read. Are ectos duped? If they were duped... you honestly think they'd be 5.5k? No! Ectos would be about the same price as your ambers, jades, and steel ingots... NOT around the price of a ruby or diamond. So lets get our heads outta our backsides and wake up. One more thing... Ectos did spike briefly this past Thursday/Friday to 7k and then dropped suddenly (as expected) when the festival started. For those who have paid attention over the years... when a festival comes to town, ectos drop. Feel free to speculate, criticize... whatever all you want. You take 5 - 10 min to really think about it... look into it... see how ectos didn't just suddenly DROP overnight but rather trickled down over what was actually months... you'll see that I'm right.
Zorgy
"...Uhhh.... what? ? ? What does Herb, or any other collectors, have to do with this? The least you could do is make your flames coherent..." said Oofus
Why are you so naive?
Maybe you are doing it on purpose?
You dont see the link between Herb & his mates (famous rare items collectors) & the armbrace trick ???
Come on you jokin
Herb hasnt been playin GW for months, he said he prefered to stay in LA (no Los Angeles but Lion's Arch) chating through vent/ts with friends, showing each others items, surfing the net....to check prices maybe
He is one of the best informed "bizeness player" in GW
Come on folks open your eyes............
Why are you so naive?
Maybe you are doing it on purpose?
You dont see the link between Herb & his mates (famous rare items collectors) & the armbrace trick ???
Come on you jokin
Herb hasnt been playin GW for months, he said he prefered to stay in LA (no Los Angeles but Lion's Arch) chating through vent/ts with friends, showing each others items, surfing the net....to check prices maybe
He is one of the best informed "bizeness player" in GW
Come on folks open your eyes............
t_the_nihilst
<--- perma-banned and wasn't even logged on for the whole fiasco.
They must be banning for other reasons as well?
My guild members eluded to the fact that I might have gotten banned for recently having opened trade with them. They had some of those "no-no" items through what they thought was one of their friends who was “quitting that game” and pretending like he was "giving them" all of his stuff.
Too good to be true. Either way, none of that had anything to do with me and I lost my account.
GG, Anet.
Banning all of the people who would have bought GWEN for reasons hardly anyone is aware of is definitely a GG.
They must be banning for other reasons as well?
My guild members eluded to the fact that I might have gotten banned for recently having opened trade with them. They had some of those "no-no" items through what they thought was one of their friends who was “quitting that game” and pretending like he was "giving them" all of his stuff.
Too good to be true. Either way, none of that had anything to do with me and I lost my account.
GG, Anet.
Banning all of the people who would have bought GWEN for reasons hardly anyone is aware of is definitely a GG.
flipfly2004
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They still exploited the game even if it was just to get proof of this exploit it broke the rules. They don't deserve any special treatment.
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max gladius
http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x...rent=gw666.jpg
nope chunky butt, u had nothing at all to do with it....
nope chunky butt, u had nothing at all to do with it....
undeadgun
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Originally Posted by Zorgy
"...Uhhh.... what? ? ? What does Herb, or any other collectors, have to do with this? The least you could do is make your flames coherent..." said Oofus
Why are you so naive? Maybe you are doing it on purpose? You dont see the link between Herb & his mates (famous rare items collectors) & the armbrace trick ??? Come on you jokin Herb hasnt been playin GW for months, he said he prefered to stay in LA (no Los Angeles but Lion's Arch) chating through vent/ts with friends, showing each others items, surfing the net....to check prices maybe He is one of the best informed "bizeness player" in GW Come on folks open your eyes............ |
yes QQ more, what moron
dsnesnintendo
not allowed to post names
lol some1`s been title farming
lol some1`s been title farming