All item duplication exploit (do not name players please)

Hlaford

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Me

As I said, I do not have the necessary components in order to perform the dublication, probably for the better. And, I believe, as of right now, I have the best possible reason for the duped items. Believe me or not, I am telling the truth.

Hlaford

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Me

Also, remember, FoW and UW have become available to anyone at pretty much any time, due to scrolls now! Thus, the price of ectos and shards will drop.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by against
I've actually been thinking about sinking any of my money exceeding 1,000 Plat into Lockpicks. Their price won't fluctuate at all. I'll also probably be buying more over time anyway.
I use alt accounts. Best way to go if you already have them.

Former guild leader of mine made a killing on Diamonds. I wouldn't buy them now; you'd have had to have done so a couple of months ago.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Yeah, ok, now I'm beginning to get concerned.

I wonder how many items have been "created" this way, and sold directly to the merchant for generated income (lockpicks, etc). No one would notice a thing if that happened... Yeah, the economy is f***ed if that's the case.
well I doubt they would bother making lockpicks, as its prolly a hard process. The only item worthy things to copy are mostly armbraces, highest priced stackable item in gw.
doubt they would copy one crystalline that nets you like 100k+500e
when 250 armbraces sold for 90 ectos gets you 22,500 ectos.
22,500 at 4,500 per ecto is 101,250,000
while the crystalline is 100k + 4,500 x 500 = 2,350,000
both items take up only one slot... which would you rather have?

Nurse With Wound

Nurse With Wound

None More Negative

Join Date: May 2006

Steel Phoenix [StP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by spyke136
i agree forget armbraces, ectos? is this why they randomly went from 10k to 4.5k? did some people just sit around and make an insane amount of ecto and then sold them to trader? what security is there in the economy if there's some people out there minting rare stacks, for that matter what happens when anet delets everything that was illegally generated, how do we know how pervasive this problem has become. for all we know this has been going on since the reconnect feature was added in and now thousands of players may have in their possession some item that was wrongly created, whether it be ectos, shards, rubies, diamonds, sapphires, armbraces (and the weapons they turn into), keys....the list is endless. hell i bet someone is duplicating stacks of creme brulee...
Thats the issue. Using this exploit you can duplicate everything, every stack of items, every rare crystalline etc.... If thats really true ( and many sources are confirming it, then its gg.

The Girly Monk

The Girly Monk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Mo/Me

My friend thinks it was an exploit with the Snake that gives the Armbraces, that he gave an unlimited amount until they fixed it or something, but not to sure.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Mini Kanaxai's for all?

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by spyke136
i agree forget armbraces, ectos? is this why they randomly went from 10k to 4.5k? did some people just sit around and make an insane amount of ecto and then sold them to trader?
Improbable; that price crash happened right after hard mode (when bots had to switch from cranking out cash to cranking out ectos). The reconnect update is December 20, 2006 (looked it up); the Hard Mode update is April 19.

I don't think that the problem is YET as widespread as one might fear; whatever damage was done to most commodities is already priced in. However, unless the loophole is closed very, very soon we could be facing much broader problems.

Also, the weapon market should hold its integrity; as 'against' noted, you could easily trace a duped weapon by the merch value indicator.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

W/

so has anyone tried the duping? I bet some of you have. Does it actually works?

Chop it Off

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Saviors of [EviL]

A/

if they could dupe any item, then why are they buying MULTIPLES of rare mini pets?

Hlaford

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Me

There is nothing wrong with GW's Programming, the Snake has nothing to do with it. I already said how they did it. Try it for yourself if you don't believe me =.=

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

id doubt they will give out more rare pets, but o hwell, u never know... and i heard the thing is already fixed?O_x?

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
so has anyone tried the duping? I bet some of you have. Does it actually works?
I would, but I fear swift ban hammering.>_>;

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

if this duping glitch is in fact true, just imagine how hectic things are at anet. with the release of gwen just around the corner, i doubt anyone at anet could have anticipated this type of a disaster.

with the limited amount of time they have, they probably cant do much to fix the problem.

if you think about it, it only really effects a very small percentage of the player population. guess my hope of someday owning that mini panda is now just a pipe dream. oh wellz...

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chop it Off
if they could dupe any item, then why are they buying MULTIPLES of rare mini pets?
To.. control the minipet market of said rare mini as best they can?

against

against

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edible Granite Pencil [yumy]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
I use alt accounts. Best way to go if you already have them.

Former guild leader of mine made a killing on Diamonds. I wouldn't buy them now; you'd have had to have done so a couple of months ago.
If Diamonds are currently 6K, I bet they will more than double in price during the first few weeks of GW:EN, just like Rubies and Saphs did in NF. Rubies were as high as 14K at one point IIRC.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

i really wanted one of those torment shields... but now im kinda afraid.

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoldyRiceFrenzy
i really wanted one of those torment shields... but now im kinda afraid.
Gasp! They're not just glitch exploiters, they're TERRORISTS!

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by against
If Diamonds are currently 6K, I bet they will more than double in price during the first few weeks of GW:EN, just like Rubies and Saphs did in NF. Rubies were as high as 14K at one point IIRC.
Depends on what they're used for; it's a large gamble as it stands. If they're needed for all/most of the prestige armor, you can expect that sort of price spike. However, it's also possible that additional rare mats will be introduced.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

To be fair... the development of Guild Wars 2 comes a distant second behind sorting out a major exploit with the potential to lose them alot of players like this if its true.

against

against

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edible Granite Pencil [yumy]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
Gasp! They're not just glitch exploiters, they're TERRORISTS!
They hate us for our freedom (or Torment Shields)!

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by korcan
with the limited amount of time they have, they probably cant do much to fix the problem.
This is the sort of disaster where as a developer you suck it up and pay the O/T or bonuses necessary to get the problem solved. From the description of the problem, there exist several temporary solutions that will at least buy them enough time to get the next game out, and that won't be terribly difficult to code.

Akuma

Akuma

IRC W H O R E

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

W/

guild warz mafia haz alredy stated launderin tha armbraces, thers nofin u can do anet deyll be out to tha publik in 2 dayz!

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If they've been laundered properly/well, they're probably everywhere, and ArenaNet can't do a thing about them, actually.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Not sure they will rollback, it's been going on too long and only really affects DoA items. Quickest fix would be to make armbraces non tradable to players..
Yeah, but then they'd trade their armbraces for tormented weapons and sell them off.

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akuma
guild warz mafia haz alredy stated launderin tha armbraces, thers nofin u can do anet deyll be out to tha publik in 2 dayz!

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If they have been 'laundered' and are going around GW, where are they?
In your and my inventory, I'm afraid. The problem is that bad. Even our own bags may be harboring these weapons of mass economic destruction.

against

against

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edible Granite Pencil [yumy]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akuma
If they have been 'laundered' and are going around GW, where are they?
One person sells their rare Mini for (A). They trade a some (A) for some (B). Maybe some (C) or (D) here and there. Laundered.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akuma
If they've been laundered properly/well, they're probably everywhere, and ArenaNet can't do a thing about them, actually.
Wait. If we get caught laundering money, we're not going to white collar resort prison.

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
Wait. If we get caught laundering money, we're not going to white collar resort prison.
That's right. You're going to straight to federal pound me in the ass prison.


Well anyway. My hats off to Anet for this one, just when I thought it couldn't get any worse after the favor change. I certainly hope they learn from their mistakes in GW.

Chop it Off

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Saviors of [EviL]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
Wait. If we get caught laundering money, we're not going to white collar resort prison.
nope your goin' to some pound you in the (_*_) prison =-P


-edit-

shadow beat me to it >.>

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

This is amazing, I would cut off my right nut just to get one armbrace or a tormented weapon, and there are people that have hundreds. Some of us will probably never hold an armbrace or a tormented weapon. I suppose its like comparing Bill Gates to Joe Schmoe who works at McDonalds.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Well I have to give it to them though. If you're gonna get greedy and do it out in the open, at least do it during an event so you know they won't roll things back. They may be asshats but they're smart asshats. They may not have made enough in the weeks leading up to this. Right now is the perfect time to just go all out.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

After reading about the way that items are duped, about how it involves the reconnect feature, and that this could've been going on for months, that gold sellers could've duped an infinite number of any item they want, I believe I can sum of the thought that is in everyone's mind in three words:

Holy.
RED ENGINEing.
Shit.

>Gold sellers crit 9 million billion on Guild Wars.
>Guild Wars dies.


...At least the most vital things in Guild Wars are the cheapest. For that I am thankful...But still-


DAYAM!

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
Well I have to give it to them though. If you're gonna get greedy and do it out in the open, at least do it during an event so you know they won't roll things back. They may be asshats but they're smart asshats. They may not have made enough in the weeks leading up to this. Right now is the perfect time to just go all out.
It was probably sheer coincidence that it happened to coincide with an event.

Kyp Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA

Lack of Talent [Luck]

P/

to be fair, the worst that will happen is torment weapons will become worthless...

(shiny, but worthless)

and life will go on otherwise

(and hopefully I can get some shinies myself)

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

There's a good chance none of this [at all] is real. I find it amusing how much you people are flipping.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

1 month ago a topic came up about how a few players were seen advertising that they wanted to sell something like 50-60 armbraces. I pointed out at the time that it just so happened right after someone posted a topic about item duping that quickly got deleted.
I'm not surprised there are several people who have 1000 armbraces now, if that dupe topic had any ounce of truth to it.

spyke136

spyke136

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
Well I have to give it to them though. If you're gonna get greedy and do it out in the open, at least do it during an event so you know they won't roll things back. They may be asshats but they're smart asshats. They may not have made enough in the weeks leading up to this. Right now is the perfect time to just go all out.
don't give them too much credit lol someone offered over 1000 armbraces for an item and didn't think that would get too much attention. if whoever these people were "smart," we would never know an exploit even existed.

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
There's a good chance none of this [at all] is real. I find it amusing how much you people are flipping.
That would be even funnier than if it was real and ruined the market.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Thanks to all of you who have helped us with information about the matter. Don't worry -- there are a lot of threads and you may not see me in any particular one but we are and have been keenly aware of the concerns here, and the designers are looking into this matter right now.

If you have specific information you want to share about this matter, you can send me a PM or email [email protected].

Thanks.

gasmaskman

gasmaskman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

None, I don't play anymore.

Mo/W

Anyone remember the D2 trading community? Yeah, the armbraces might just replace gold as the currency.