All item duplication exploit (do not name players please)

The screenies that the original discussion stems from were posted by multiple players with good reps on this site. Unquestionably, something is up.

Precisely what is up is debatable, but there's way way way way too many armbraces on the market right now. That's not a good thing. If the proposed dupe method is accurate (and the posited method does sound like it would work), there's cause for concern.

so what. max they can dupe is 7 pieces per trade. they wont be able to buy anything rare like that

QFT kinda.

hardcore doa farmers and the super high-end traders would only be the ones effected to any significant extent.

as it is, doa is already on life support, if this glitch is in fact true, it would be a dead zone.

the people that farm gems or armbraces that did it legitimately might be turned off enough to actually quit the game.

for Gaile, i have send u guys 2 names that i know of bought or want to buy the rare pets with rideculas amount of armbraces, i hope i get reply soon, and i am here ty for looking after us.

Interesting.. I wonder how wide-spread it is? And if these people that do dupe will be banned and if not what kind of action will be taken against them..=s

just some maths:

1750 ambraces of truth = 26.250 titans gems
for example: u make a 3-mens run (HM) with 5 leechers(can be 5 accounts of only own person), at end u have 2 gems per character:

8 characters*2 =16 gems + around 4-5gems drooped during mission = 20 gems

so 26250 /20 = 1312 runs in foundry with success.

a run take about 50 minutes for best players, 1h30 about normal time:

it result a total of 1312 hours minimum on foundry ( with 8 mens run who give all gems to only one guys ) , it will take a total of 54 complete days (minimum), for having enough "titans" gems. Now u must have others three types of gems.

Realistic for u ? for me absolutly not . Or there is a guild who farm again and again for buying only one pet for only one members, Impossible.

Ps: sorry for people who hate maths

Assuming it is an exploit, no matter how it's carried out, when ANet figures out how it's working I'm pretty sure they'll be able to track down who did what when and where. Remember guys, GW runs off multiple rather large and very complex databases, changes to the data stored within are most definitely logged. So, that means that deleting 1750 AoTs, etc is going to show up in a log someplace. As will the sudden appearance of 1750 AoTs. Whomever decided to exploit a bug of what could potentially be HUGE magnitude, will find themselves with a permaban. This is no different than the exploit that appeared on June 15, 2005 which allowed players to farm XP from the doppleganger, several people lost their accounts over that one, I would expect to see no different a punishment here should there actually be an exploit being used.

As for Hlaford, if you're not just yanking our chain about how this works, you really should be reporting it directly to ANet, infact you should have done so the moment you learned of the process, you stated that you would do such when you agreed to the Rules of Conduct

I'd like to believe that none of this is true, but it's already been confirmed by trustworthy board members that yes, people are selling numerous stacks of armbraces.

What I pray is true is that it's only an exploit in DoA - not some duping exploit. If it's the latter, then ANet's going to feel incredibly, dreadfully shitty...All those efforts and hours into banning bots and THIS gets under their noses. All that hard work, all for naught.

this works, confirmed.

These things have polluted the economy and been laundered so much in the last couple weeks that it is impossible to correct without the innocent being hit as well. Plus the guilty have multiple accounts and spread the winnings around. The pet market is ruined for anyone that did not partake in this glitch because there is a new super class of wealthy that are sitting on hundreds of stacks of ectos and millions in gold not to mention the rarest pets and weapons in the game. If you did not rake it in over the past 2 weeks you are forever shut out of getting these items down the road.

So the only thing they can do is roll back 1 month to be fair, then look and see who has stacks of armbraces. Those are the guilty ones. A roll back only costs the honest people some time. That is a small price to pay than to have the economy ruined by literally billions of gold and items having been acquired this way. If they don't roll back, the people who made out like bandits keep everything and average players can forget about ever owning some of these items. A new super class of rich has been created.

And this does affect even the little player because so many braces have been created and laundered into gold and ectos through trades that there is now the multiplier affect that will drive inflation. In addition, there are some seriously valuable accounts that can wholesale gold and ectos to the gold merchants for real world money. I am talking about accounts worth many 10's of thousands of dollars. This in turn floods the market for everyone through the gold sellers and we get even more inflation. This hurts everyone. The gold sellers are going benefit here, so if anet leaves the new money in place, it only helps the gold sellers. Players will find gold cheaper and have more need for it since prices will be going up for everything. Increased demand, increased supply, means very happy gold resellers.

A rollback hurts no one. Everyone is no better or no worse than they were before. All we lose is some playing time. My finances would be a lot worse off with a 30 day rollback, but in my opinion, it is the only option to get rid of this disasterous inflation and wealth creation that just smacked us in the face. Without a rollback, the economy is completely ruined, the average player is hosed, the new super wealthy keep everything, and the bot farmers/gold sellers ultimately benefit. Therefore, I will go out on a limb and say Anet bans a couple of storage accounts as a meanlingless gesture, "fixes" the glitch, and this was the beginning of end of GW being a game with items as goals to achieve because you will never ever be able to afford them again. The end.

/sigh

Here's hoping they can close it down quickly tonight.

Isn't? You'd want them to feel dreadfully shitty?;-;

Well... damn...

*embarrassedly goes back to lurking threads and not posting*

well said there

It's natural to be suspicious of outrageous claims, fret not. *pat pat*

a month rollback is completely not deserving even a thought.

accepting the fact that armbraces are the only things to be duped, the easy solution would be: customize armbrace, give more rare minipets with new competitions.

this would affect the dupers an the legit owners of rare minipets (tho new ways to get asian minis are coming soonish in europe)

Unfortunately...it IS a duping exploit. I found out how it's done, and it's not cool. This is why there are so many Armbraces, it's fast, easy, and VERY easily accessible for people...(ie new characters)

Yeah, well, now that it's confirmed.... now I'm really concerned.

Just gonna sit back and see how Anet plans to fix this mess.

Sort of depends on what you did in the last 30 days. It wouldn't bother me much. I'd have to retrade for an item over there in the avatar; that's about it. Been out of town, haven't been able to play this month.

Someone that ground out all 3 Vanquisher titles, by contrast, might be a bit upset if you roll them back.

I don't see a rollback as a viable option. The cost is just too high for most players to swallow.

I'll surrender my tormented bow but I want my 160ectos back.

I also want my 2.5mil Kurzick faction doubled, since it's been devalued by a factor of 2 with a recent update.

That's about 50-70 hours of farming wasted, down the drain.
And A LOT MORE ab time, just like that, out of the window.

Seriously. This is unacceptable.

Chillin' with some Gurus in INT D1 AC : ). We are checking out these whammos...

Yea I saw that too. Fix'd!

Ya - I've done tons of ToPK runs and not as many UW runs and have never netted many ectos [I have literally only had at most approximately 10 ectos in all the time I've played -- & that was saving up for a long time.] Maybe that's normal and maybe not; maybe I should have the Master Unlucky Title of All Time.

But to buy 1,750 ectos for +/- 5K ea. is a lot. There have been thousands of ectos floating around -- even when they were 9k or higher in price. 1,750ectos*9,000gold=15,750,000gold. Are there people who are legitimately that rich in the game??? [That's not sour grapes; I applaud anyone who is rich if they came by it honestly.]

I don't mean to make a bad problem [the Arm Braces] worse by implicating ectos, but I've always wondered where all the ectos came from. And I'm not pointing any fingers... it's obvious someone could have a lot of ectos by selling rares for them. But where did all the ectos come from in the first place?

If they are going to do a rollback they shouldn't be torturing people by letting them keep playing for now. Actually the game shouldn't be running right now, it should be down till the issue is fixed (or temporarily remove the reconnects) - While we are talking about it, some people will be making moar ambraces.

It's been possible to do for a while, and likely has been happening for a very long time. A Rollback simply isn't viable.

is this the beginning of the end?

Confirmed by multiple people. You can dupe every item using this exploit. They better fix the thing FAST.

I think if they rolled back a month, my entire guild would try to kill anet employees. We were founded, bought a cape, hall, npcs, got some rank, and recruited a loyal base all in the past month. I personally have refitted 2 chars, sold over 300k worth of items, and finished a campaign with a new character. One guy in my guild became high ranked in hero battles, and another r6. One got vanquisher, another legendary survivor. Anet cannot destroy all this with one rollback of a month. As stated earlier, that large a rollback with this month being so big event wise would destroy them.

If this was a legitimate update by Arenanet, that would be comparable. As a bug, it's got no relevance to Faction titles. Arenanet intended to change Faction titles, I sincerely doubt they intended to have a dupe bug in their game.

I think, especially with the Dragon Festival just out of the way, that a rollback is out of the question.

not sure if i can ask this or not but is the dupe an armbraces only thing or doable with all items?

You realise a rollback would remove what happened during the dragon festival and people would have to do it all over again, right?

what can they do about it?

yea they wouldnt do that. it'd piss off so many people especially my buddy, hes got his GF's char sittin in SJ farmin tickets so she gets her title while she is visiting family.

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All items and all stacks of items. Confirmed by multiple sources. Some duped f.ex red dye.

Oh. Oops.>_>

I thought you had some anger towards Anet. >=O

Well I'd find it pretty painful... >.<

In the last 30 days I've played my assassin all the way through Factions and got her Protector.. and finished mapping all three continents for Legendary Cartographer on my ele.

Right that's why I uh, said that it's out of the question.

A month rollback would undo stuff far more important than the dragon festival...

ATs
Double Fame weekend.

That would be /fail by anet

this is pathtic, im at the richest of my gw life, now look!
my ambraces are worth jack shit

by gw

~Out Loud

I've actually never had this much sympathy for them. This just sucks.

This, for lack of any better words, sucks.

They really should take out reconnects for the time being. That's the first and most important thing that should be done.