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BlackSephir

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:02 - 602

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

No, you may have 3 heroes, yourself, and 4 henchmen, for a total of 8 players. You may not now, nor ever have 7 heroes, so stop asking. It went from a single thread into a collection of bitchfests. .

Yep, we can't have 7 heroes now but guess what? Unless you're some kind of oracle and you can predict the future, you have no idea if there will be more heroes or not.

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Riverside doesn't like you, it wants to let you know, you make its tummy hurt.

Does it also make your brain hurt?
I bet it doesn't

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Why buy an MMO to play alone?

Yes, this has been discussed many times but apparently you don't get it, do you?
YOU won't be telling ME how I AM supposed to play this game. I'm not playing with you. I'm not telling you how to play. So stay the hell out of the way I play GW since I don't give a shit about how you play it.
And one last thing- why buy a game which was supposed to be solo-able if I want to play alone? Srsly?

bhavv

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Join Date: Sep 2006

01 Dec 2007 at 16:03 - 603

I wasnt seeking attention, I was replying to the following comment:

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

I don't recall playing with you ever. Nor do I recall seeing you post very often here. Thus, you are now being /shovedtotheside. Enjoy your corner.

Oooh, and I have the same title under my name as you do, but I'm expected to know that your some kind of big shot when you dont know who I am. LoL, get back on your brain meds plz.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:04 - 604

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Why buy an MMO to play alone? And we already discussed how much of the game is soloable. Everywhere except elite areas, and that's it, unless you suck.

Flame less please.

Correct. You buy an MMOrpg to play with others, at least a buddy. Guild Wars allows for buddy play perfect (2 humans + 6 heroes)

To think you want to login, never speak to anyone, and play alone is first and foremost, saddening, and secondly against the basis the game genre was founded on. Go play oblivion or Zelda, or Final Fantasy (especially Final Fantasy)

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Oooh, and I have the same title under my name as you do, but I'm expected to know that your some kind of big shot when you dont know who I am. LoL, get back on your brain meds plz.

So, which is it? Am I a big shot or an idiot; both? You know, maybe if you realized that I am not out for publicity or recognition, but rather the betterment of the community of GWG and Guild Wars in general, you wouldn't be so foul with me. Way to smack a gift horse in face, eh? Here, have some candy; candy makes people happy. God knows, you need happiness with that attitude.

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:05 - 605

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

To think you want to login, never speak to anyone, and play alone is first and foremost, saddening, and secondly against the basis the game genre was founded on. Go play oblivion or Zelda, or Final Fantasy (especially Final Fantasy)

We never said we dont want to speak to anyone. I love speaking to my guild and alliance, but I prefer to play on my own, you know, cos thats the way I prefer to play and find it more enjoyable?

Its a personal preferance. Haviong 7 heroes again isnt about making the game soloable, its about making the solo part of it much more fun. Of course, if your not a solo player, you will never understand that argument, why bother trying to feed us your 'OMG BUT LYK DIS GAME IZ MULTIPLAYA OMG OMG' again and again? We dont care, we still want 7 heroes.

BlackSephir

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:09 - 606

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Correct. You buy an MMOrpg to play with others, at least a buddy. Guild Wars allows for buddy play perfect (2 humans + 6 heroes)

Your reading skills are abysmal.
Gw was advertised as a game which you can play solo. So I bought GW, not WoW, not L2, because it is solo-able. I didn't buy it to play with my buddy.
So, actually, it's the opposite. I bought GW because it doesn't require me to team up with other people. Go figure.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:10 - 607

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Originally Posted by bhavv

We never said we dont want to speak to anyone. I love speaking to my guild and alliance, but I prefer to play on my own, you know, cos thats the way I prefer to play and find it more enjoyable?

Its a personal preferance. Haviong 7 heroes again isnt about making the game soloable, its about making the solo part of it much more fun. Of course, if your not a solo player, you will never understand that argument, why bother trying to feed us your 'OMG BUT LYK DIS GAME IZ MULTIPLAYA OMG OMG' again and again? We dont care, we still want 7 heroes.

But the fact is, this game is marketed as an MMO (or CRPG), so the ability to play solo shouldn't exist. And you know, people don't always get what they want. Crying in multiple threads which seem to crop up every single month (if not week) without fail on this same, relentless, dull, dead topic isn't going to get you 7 heroes. So just stop, Gaile said no, ANET said no. Why can't you just grow up and accept the answer?

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Your reading skills are abysmall.
Gw was advertised as a game which you can play solo. So I bought GW, not WoW, not L2, because it is solo-able. I didn't buy it to play with my buddy.

Your telling me you cannot do that right now? Oh, I do believe you can. So no, my reading skills are not abysmal, but your spelling skills apparently are. Please stop this mindless debate. They said NO. N...O....

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:14 - 608

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

But the fact is, this game is marketed as an MMO (or CRPG), so the ability to play solo shouldn't exist.

???

It exists in Maple Story ><

Look at DDO, very little of the game is solo, when I last logged on there were only a couple of hundred people playing across the whole server. And thats all there ever is. You know why? Because its Multiplayer ONLY.

The only reason so many people are still playing GW is because it can at least be played solo. But the henchmen just arent up to scratch for HM, and A-net still refuse to do anything about it (Henchies with healing breeze, or with no elite, and just about every freaking warrior has charge).

We are mainly complaining because the solo experience with henchmen well and trully sucks.

Zeek Aran

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Earth, sadly

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:14 - 609

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Originally Posted by bhavv

We never said we dont want to speak to anyone. I love speaking to my guild and alliance, but I prefer to play on my own, you know, cos thats the way I prefer to play and find it more enjoyable?

Its a personal preferance. Haviong 7 heroes again isnt about making the game soloable, its about making the solo part of it much more fun. Of course, if your not a solo player, you will never understand that argument, why bother trying to feed us your 'OMG BUT LYK DIS GAME IZ MULTIPLAYA OMG OMG' again and again? We dont care, we still want 7 heroes.

I'm sorry, but why bother trying to feed us your 'OMG IM A BRAGGART TROLL ON GURU OMG OMG' again and again? We don'r care, and you still aren't getting 7 heroes as Gaile has come onto Guru and posted this in the FIRST suggestion thread of this topic.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:16 - 610

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

I'm sorry, but why bother trying to feed us your 'OMG IM A BRAGGART TROLL ON GURU OMG OMG' again and again? We don'r care, and you still aren't getting 7 heroes as Gaile has come onto Guru and posted this in the FIRST suggestion thread of this topic.

As I recall, the answer was....

NO.

In the words of Kevin Spacey...

"WROOOOOOONNNNNNG!"

BlackSephir

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:16 - 611

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

But the fact is, this game is marketed as an MMO (or CRPG), so the ability to play solo shouldn't exist.

And wrong once again.
GW is marketed as an CORPG and that you can play it with people or AI. So the ability to play solo was one of the first unique things in GW

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Your telling me you cannot do that right now?

I can have max 3 heroes with my while the usual party size is 8. That means 4 henchies, while we have many other heroes.

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Please stop this mindless debate. They said NO. N...O....

And brain-dead people or AN fanboys don't see the problem? They said 'no' and that's it, right?
Well, no. I know they said no but they didn't give good reasons why they won't give us 7 heroes.
Or maybe you can play devil's advocate and do it for them? Go go go!

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:17 - 612

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

'OMG IM A BRAGGART TROLL ON GURU OMG OMG' again and again?

I dont think I alone turned this topic into 30+ pages, nor into over 100 pages on GWO. The fact of the matter is over 75% of players want some improvement in solo play and were not getting it.

Zeek Aran

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:18 - 613

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Originally Posted by bhavv

We are mainly complaining because the solo experience with henchmen well and trully sucks.

Explain this. And how do you know it's over 75% of the players?

o.O Rahja, did you just misread and counter what I said?

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:19 - 614

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Explain this.

Already did:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Odurra

'Nuff said. Its over 75% of the players because GWO has a nice poll.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:20 - 615

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

And wrong once again.
GW is marketed as an CORPG and that you can play it with people or AI. So the ability to play solo was one of the first unique things in GW

I can have max 3 heroes with my while the usual party size is 8. That means 4 henchies, while we have many other heroes.

And brain-dead people or AN fanboys don't see the problem? They said 'no' and that's it, right?
Well, no. I know they said no but they didn't give good reasons why they won't give us 7 heroes.
Or maybe you can play devil's advocate and do it for them? Go go go!

A company that makes the game you play said NO. You want to argue with them, they are not going to argue with you. If you do not like the situation, either take a break from the game and comeback when you feel refreshed, or leave entirely and find a newer, better game.

The fact is, if your wanting to play completely solo, you have lost all community spirit and you shouldn't be playing an MMO anyways. All your doing is sucking what little life our community has left, out. Take a break from Guild Wars, play some old games you haven't fiddled with. I took a break, and then I cameback about 1 month later, refreshed and ready to work on some titles here and there. Try it, you might find it works.

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

o.O Rahja, did you just misread and counter what I said?

Nope, I agreed. It was another view of what you said.

would I ever disagree with you Zeek? I think not.

Zeek Aran

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:22 - 616

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Already did:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Odurra

'Nuff said. Its over 75% of the players because GWO has a nice poll.

And there aren't nine other henchman to choose from? If you want a mesmer, bring a hero instead.

Neriandal Freit

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:23 - 617

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

A company that makes the game you play said NO. You want to argue with them, they are not going to argue with you. If you do not like the situation, either take a break from the game and comeback when you feel refreshed, or leave entirely and find a newer, better game.

The fact is, if your wanting to play completely solo, you have lost all community spirit and you shouldn't be playing an MMO anyways. All your doing is sucking what little life our community has left, out. Take a break from Guild Wars, play some old games you haven't fiddled with. I took a break, and then I cameback about 1 month later, refreshed and ready to work on some titles here and there. Try it, you might find it works.

Nope, I agreed. It was another view of what you said.

would I ever disagree with you Zeek? I think not.

Here here here to the bold statment!!

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:25 - 618

Case in point. Zho in GW:EN.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zho

Bring her. GG

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:26 - 619

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

And there aren't nine other henchman to choose from? If you want a mesmer, bring a hero instead.

Thats not the point. All the henchmen are terribad compared to what I could do with 7 heroes instead. And with only 3 hero slots, I dont actually have space for a mesmer since I need 3 necros pretty much anywhere in HM.

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:26 - 620

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Case in point. Zho in GW:EN.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zho

Bring her. GG

Im not QQ'ing about gwen im QQ'ing about the 3 main campains. Odurra is in NF, shows how little you read or understand anything. Oh, in Factions and GW:EN I normally always use the Mesmer hench. The gwen one isnt great, but fun nonetheless.

As a mesmer yourself, you really shouldnt be arguing in defense of henchmen in anyway after looking at Odurra's skill bar.

Zeek Aran

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:28 - 621

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Originally Posted by bhavv

since I need 3 necros pretty much anywhere in HM.

HA. AHAHAHA. Ha. You just failed, sir.

BlackSephir

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:30 - 622

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Explain this.

Take Alesia into hard mode. Cool, isn't it?
Or maybe you need another SS necro? Just take Eve... Oh wait, that won't
work D:

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And how do you know it's over 75% of the players?

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...ghlight=heroes
79% out of 1048 people want to have full hero parties. I think it's a safe bet to say that it'd around 75% or more if there was some kind of in-game poll

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A company that makes the game you play said NO

And they didn't say why they said no. You don't see the problem? Wow, shocker

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You want to argue with them, they are not going to argue with you.

You mean a company doesn't want to talk with its client? Yeah, you fail at business.

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If you do not like the situation, either take a break from the game and comeback when you feel refreshed, or leave entirely and find a newer, better game.

Or I can stay here and talk about it. Pissing off people like you is just a bonus.

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The fact is, if your wanting to play completely solo, you have lost all community spirit and you shouldn't be playing an MMO anyways.

Spare me your bullcrap/preaching. I didn't have any community spirit even before buying GW and that's one of the reasons why I bought GW- because I didn't need crappy community spirit to play pve.

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I took a break, and then I cameback

What a shame

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:31 - 623

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

HA. AHAHAHA. Ha. You just failed, sir.

You fail. Pretty much everyone I know that is IVI or above and chasing the vanquisher title uses necro way and wouldnt touch anything else, so you can STFU noob. I've tried everything else. Relying on henchmen to keep a party alive NEVER works in HM outside of GWEN.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:32 - 624

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Im not QQ'ing about gwen im QQ'ing about the 3 main campains.

Ok, while I can sympathize with you on some of the heroes from the other campaigns, I will not say all of them are bad.

Take for example because of recent skill changes...
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Alesia

Because of the major overhaul to WoH and the nice buff to Healbreeze, she actually is useful now. Great for 3rd monk support in HM.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Seaguard_Eli
He spams DS, which has nice DPS. He isn't the best, but he isn't terrible (except for hamstring, but meh....)

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Daeman
Victory is yours.

Best Henchman ever?
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Erys_Vasburg
Answer, Yes

Just a few examples.

BTW, you need to use the EDIT feature please, your double/triple posting...

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Originally Posted by bhavv

You fail. Pretty much everyone I know that is IVI or above and chasing the vanquisher title uses necro way and wouldnt touch anything else, so you can STFU noob.

and your just plain wrong. That is untrue. You need 1, maybe 2 necros at most. One is SS, obviously. The second is a jagged bones minion bomber. That one is optional. Earth eles are great actually, and a good warrior helps more.

3 monks
2 earth eles
1 warrior
1 ranger
1 SS necro

Typical 8 man setup that mows down HM. Variations accepted.

Zeek Aran

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:34 - 625

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Originally Posted by bhavv

You fail. Pretty much everyone I know that is IVI or above and chasing the vanquisher title uses necro way and wouldnt touch anything else, so you can STFU noob. I've tried everything else. Relying on henchmen to keep a party alive NEVER works.

13 maxed titles so far and I'm pretty lazy... haven't done much at all this month...
And I only use one necro at time. When you say you can't do anything without the three necros, you admit your own fallacy of the game.

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:34 - 626

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

13 maxed titles so far and I'm pretty lazy... haven't done much at all this month...
And I only use one necro at time. When you say you can't do anything without the three necros, you admit your own fallacy of the game.

Start vanquishing then come back noob. Necroway makes it fast, and keeps the party alive amazingly better then anything else.

Zeek Aran

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:37 - 627

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Start vanquishing then come back noob.

Someone who throws the word noob around so carelessly... really shows your intelligence/personality.

Never used three necros. Current:24/33, 27/54, 16/34

Seems I can manage without thee necros or Ursans, unlike SOME people.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:38 - 628

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Start vanquishing then come back noob.

I think he probably has. Vanquishing really depends on the area, monster type, terrain (due to pathing issues), and skills the monsters use.

For heavy hex areas, run an empathetic removal monk with a woh monk and HB monk (the woh and HB have cure hex) for condition heavy areas, run an RC, WoH, and HB. Melee heavy = more prot, wards galore, blind.

For dmg, that is so Dependant on the area.
Southern Shiverpeaks, Fire eles rip it apart. However, those same fire eles /fail on perdition rock, so you change to earth, or sub in an MM etc.

Vanquishing isn't one build, it is build synergy and knowing your foes and how to counter and kill efficiently. Considering PvP experience actually helps in this matter, I would advise you get some.

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:39 - 629

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Never used three necros. Current:24/33, 27/54, 16/34

And using 3 necros you would have been able to complete it in the time it took you to do that.

OFC you dont use them everywhere, but in general you use it in 90% of the time to make vanquishing a breeze.

Im Rank 7, rank 4 glad, and was in a top 200 GVG guild that split up during Prophecies tyvm. I quit PVP since all the mess around with party sizes, kill count, heroway etc etc.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:39 - 630

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Originally Posted by bhavv

And using 3 necros you would have been able to complete it in the time it took you to do that.

WRONG. JUST WRONG> Stop now, before you look worse please.

Zeek Aran

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:41 - 631

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Originally Posted by bhavv

And using 3 necros you would have been able to complete it in the time it took you to do that.

OFC you dont use them everywhere, but in general you use it in 90% of the time to make vanquishing a breeze.

Im Rank 7, rank 4 glad, and was in a top 200 GVG guild that split up during Prophecies tyvm.

Stop bragging, mister attention lover.

I'm done [again] with argueing in this thread. It's pointless. Bai.

Lord Sojar

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:44 - 632

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Stop bragging, mister attention lover.

I'm done [again] with argueing in this thread. It's pointless. Bai.

/agree

PS: I am r10, but who really cares? Toodles. Have a blast begging fruitlessly for your precious AI induced coma.

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:47 - 633

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

WRONG. JUST WRONG> Stop now, before you look worse please.

How about you stop? This is the whole point with this thread. I can play the game however the hell I choose. For you to tell me 3 necros suck when its pretty much clear sailing for me anywhere in HM with corpses (I.E 90%+ of the game) only tells me that you know pretty much nothing about the way I play and just think that your way is better (Believe me its not, I try every possible build there is).

Quit telling me how to play the game and saying my way sucks when its a complete breeze for me. And before you ask why I want 7 heroes when I find it easy, Its because the freaking henchmen are still retards.

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 16:50 - 634

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

and your just plain wrong. That is untrue. You need 1, maybe 2 necros at most. One is SS, obviously. The second is a jagged bones minion bomber. That one is optional. Earth eles are great actually, and a good warrior helps more.

Its Jagged MM bomber, SS, and N/Rt healer. Works like a charm. I dont need earth elly heroes because I'm the only one I need lol. The N/Rt heals better then any Monk can fueled by the minions.

Daeman and Erys Vasburg are found in like 3 or 4 outposts each idiot. Its not like we can take them into prophecies or use them everywhere in factions, wheras we are stuck with Odurra throughout NF, and healing breeze monks and charge warriors throughout all three campains.

Simple enough, you dont know, understand or consider anything regarding this topic, so why keep posting?

Mineria

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01 Dec 2007 at 17:54 - 635

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

Yes, they did, and they aren't thanked often enough for it by folks like me. I really appreciate that they did that in GWEN. In general I'm quite happy with Anet's design decisions, and in threads like this one I (and I suspect most of those like me) don't really want to come off as hostile to Anet. This is a really great game, I wouldn't care enough to participate in 20-something page threads about what could be done to make it that little bit better for me if it weren't.

Elite missions and HM are after-the-fact bonus content. I acknowledge that. I don't think I have a "right" to that content, necessarily. It would, however, be awfully nice to have the option to take a run at it with a full hero party. To be honest, I'd be happy with it if elite areas and HM were the only places you could get a full hero party. We aren't asking them to make it easy for us, it'd just be nice if solo players had a shot at these areas.

Elite Missions and HM wont be easy with 1 player controlling 7-11 heroes.
You wonder why I wrote 7-11?
Urgoz and the Deep.
Somehow I think that opening for full hero party won't solve the reasons, some asking for it are frustrated about.

I know you like to play alone, but I must say that I still find it sad, since I from that assume, that you got no good guild/alliance in game.
With good I mean working together and don't dis each other.
I was playing solo until spring this year, and can only say getting into a good guild/alliance really changes things to the better.
A good thumb of rule is to look for guilds where swearing, trading and offending in the guild/alliance channels is prohibited.

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...ghlight=heroes
79% out of 1048 people want to have full hero parties. I think it's a safe bet to say that it'd around 75% or more if there was some kind of in-game poll

Out of 1048 people, not 1,5 million or how many GW players there are in total.

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Its Jagged MM bomber, SS, and N/Rt healer. Works like a charm.

Yes.
But a full player party works even better.

Bryant Again

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01 Dec 2007 at 18:08 - 636

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

79% out of 1048 people want to have full hero parties. I think it's a safe bet to say that it'd around 75% or more if there was some kind of in-game poll

Actually not at all!! To think that is absurd.

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Originally Posted by Isileth

*snipping out main point* But due to that I miss out on parts of the game. Having 7 heroes would change that.

This is something that can't really be helped. Like I've said, you could try managing what you need to do, what has to be helped, etc. But that's your personal live and none of my damn business so I'll have to leave that to myself.

If you really want to be able to completely solo these areas, my only recommendation is to get a friend or a random person, ask for him to enter an area with heroes set up to your specification, then he can just leave the game. If you're that serious about seeing the areas, that's my only suggestion. Sure it's a 7 person party, but it's better than nothing.

(I don't know if they nerfed this or not, did they?)

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

HA. AHAHAHA. Ha. You just failed, sir.

Could be profession specific. My warrior doesn't have much of a hard time doing HM with h/h.

That aside, I wouldn't consider GW an MMO. Not only that, but ANet has never specifically called GW an MMO, either (save for the only major resemblence stated above.)

bhavv

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01 Dec 2007 at 18:18 - 637

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Originally Posted by Mineria

But a full player party works even better.

Its very easy to create a full player party to vanquish every area in the game. /Sarcasm.

BlackSephir

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01 Dec 2007 at 18:36 - 638

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Originally Posted by Mineria

Out of 1048 people, not 1,5 million or how many GW players there are in total.

Interesting. So, in your country, when you want to know what people think about something, you ask EVERY citizen?

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Actually not at all!! To think that is absurd.

Actually, it's not. It would be if there was another poll with the same questions and 1000 people against 7 heroes.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

01 Dec 2007 at 18:41 - 639

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Interesting. So, in your country, when you want to know what people think about something, you ask EVERY citizen?

It's comparative to having the Presidential Election in the United States and only allowing 5 people to vote from each state.

Basing a conclusion off of an *EXTREMELY* small minority is incredibly flawed.

Not to mention forums are a hive for QQrs, so it's very risky to actually listen to their suggestions.

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

01 Dec 2007 at 19:07 - 640

Whether you like it or not, these QQers here and on GWOnline are vocal. And so it happens that the vocal majority wants 7 heroes.

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only allowing 5 people to vote from each state.

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What?
Everyone can vote on GWO. Failed comparison.

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Basing a conclusion off of an *EXTREMELY* small minority is incredibly flawed

You say conclusion, I say http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...ted_guess.html

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

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01 Dec 2007 at 20:38 - 641

I quitted this game abot 3 months ago beacuse anet hating farmers(which is a forgotten word now I suppose if not tell me) But I was faction farmin. I started to lose internet connection very often and it got boring and that was the last bad thing I got from the game. Anyway I looked after months what changed. But that really something that I was annoyed from those heroes being only 3. THere cant be alogical explanation. If some people want pugs they can go pugs. If not there should be chance for 7 heroes. I hero henched EVERY SINGLE MISSION IN THE GAME except those mission that I were busy and payed a mission runner(I dont run mission but on my other chars I use runners cause I dont like missions)