I realise this is a bit late to talk about, since people have spent the money now. But was £17.99-£29.99 too expensive for an expansion that was ultimately 1/4 the size of a full campaign?
Paying full campaign price seems daft when you look back on what you have bought. We all had expectations of there being alot more area to explore atleast, and we basically got a very small number of new instances.
So what did we get for that price?
18 dungeons,
40 new armors (which are questionably rubbish),
A very small number of PvE+PvP skills for each profession,
New PvE only skills,
New greens and skinned weapons,
Very few new quests,
3 new titles (one of which is not a dedicated exploration title).
a very small number of very easily explored instances,
A small selection of new creatures to fight including the destroyers,
Some new pets,
and the chances to meet 2 new races and learn more about the drawfs!
Also a storyline that is completeable in just a few days (which isnt anything new). Was that worth the price of a new campaign?
Dont miss-understand me! I love 95% of GWEN (the 5% being the armors) and Im glad they released it, but the price now seems too high for what you get!
Had it been half the price atleast, I wouldnt have minded the re-skinning of armors and the small amount of new content. I think Anet needs to take a look at this and realise to price things more carefully!
Putting a price tag of £29.99 RRP on it, suggested it was going to have alot to it, and it didnt!
Maybe Anet plans to add more content over the next 2 years with updates, but if so, why not add them now or have waited?
It seems hard to believe GWEN is as small as it is for that price!
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I should have mentioned I got mine from play.com for £17.99, but I still believe that a bit too much for a game of this size.
Was GWEN too expensive for what we got?
freekedoutfish
Diablo???
It's a matter of opinion... if the buyer liked it or not.
I liked it, therefore, it was worth it.... to me.
I liked it, therefore, it was worth it.... to me.
RTSFirebat
It does some overpriced in terms of £ Pounds, but I only paid £25 via the ingame store. I would have guess £20 would be more reasonable, but oh well 
lord dragon
For what we got, this was worth about $10 at the most. I hope, since I bought it online, that the 4 missions we get in November are better then this. It may be the only saving grace for this whole mess they call an expansion.
Ghost Recon
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Putting a price tag of £29.99 RRP on it, suggested it was going to have alot to it, and it didnt!
Where did you get it from basicly everyone I know got it for around £17.
Day and Night
Was GWEN too expensive for what we got?
I think...
No, it wasn't
GWEN is high-quality product (but actually minus armours that i don't like...) and worth the price ArenaNet charges for it.
I think...
No, it wasn't
GWEN is high-quality product (but actually minus armours that i don't like...) and worth the price ArenaNet charges for it.
TheodanUK
I guess if you add up the cost of all your guild wars purchases and divide it by the number of months you have played the game, it still works out a hell of a lot cheaper than rival MMORPGs.. that charge a monthly fee.. so it is good value for money in the long run.
Etta
GW:EN RRP is £24.99, fish. Most places sell it for £19.99, I paid £17.99 for mine. Money well spend, I say.
lord dragon
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Originally Posted by TheodanUK
I guess if you add up the cost of all your guild wars purchases and divide it by the number of months you have played the game, it still works out a hell of a lot cheaper than rival MMORPGs.. that charge a monthly fee.. so it is good value for money in the long run.
Would agree for the other 3 completely. Would have paid more for the other 3. EON was a waste of money.
Jongo River
I guess there are 2 problems in the UK. (a) We're used to pretty large discounts from certain online retailers. (b) £17.99 is pretty much as low as those said retailers go for a new release. That means that GW:EN ends up costing the same as the standalones, whether it's an expansion or not. Add in the apparent inability for the online store to offer a discount and yeah, it seems pricey, but I wouldn't go as far as criticising the amount of content.
There's certainly stuff I don't like at all about GW:EN (debated endlessly elsewhere), but size isn't one of them. With previous chapters I was reading about people completing them almost straight away and I was generally still pottering around noob territory. That's pretty much the same with GW:EN - I've only just dragged my ass out of Norn territory (with very few sidequests completed). I probably won't finish the game this month, as I'm in no hurry.
Heck, I think it's you people rushing through and then complaining that it's over too quickly, that have gotten us saddled with all the grind-based tasks!
There's certainly stuff I don't like at all about GW:EN (debated endlessly elsewhere), but size isn't one of them. With previous chapters I was reading about people completing them almost straight away and I was generally still pottering around noob territory. That's pretty much the same with GW:EN - I've only just dragged my ass out of Norn territory (with very few sidequests completed). I probably won't finish the game this month, as I'm in no hurry.
Heck, I think it's you people rushing through and then complaining that it's over too quickly, that have gotten us saddled with all the grind-based tasks!
malko050987
Money well spent, imo.
EDIT: I spent 30 EURO on it, 35 if the preview counts.
EDIT: I spent 30 EURO on it, 35 if the preview counts.
Malice Black
No.
Rejuvenated my interest in GW. All I use to do before was sit in the GH abusing guildies. Now I'm actually playing, and enjoying myself.
Riding on the devourer was hilarious. Tanking Molotov with the devourer NEVER fails to amuse.
GG Anet IMO
Rejuvenated my interest in GW. All I use to do before was sit in the GH abusing guildies. Now I'm actually playing, and enjoying myself.
Riding on the devourer was hilarious. Tanking Molotov with the devourer NEVER fails to amuse.
GG Anet IMO
lyra_song
i would say just a little, but then again...im wasteful with my money.
DergeDraconis
They put enough time and work into it to justify the price. I love it, it is short, the armors arn't great (at all), but it is enjoyable enough for me to spend the $40, knowing I'll get alot of added playtime out of it in the future.
cellardweller
The quests were a blast, the dungeons are awesome. Well worth the admission price.
Malice Black
How can you say it's short? I doubt anyone has truly completed it yet.
Maxed titles
All armors
All side quest
All dungeons
All greens
100% explored
etc
You might have pwnd the weak ass boss at the end but that doesn't mean you have finished.
Maxed titles
All armors
All side quest
All dungeons
All greens
100% explored
etc
You might have pwnd the weak ass boss at the end but that doesn't mean you have finished.
IslandHermet
I do not Believe Anet has justification to charge 40 dollers thats 10 less than a full campaign the more resonable price would have been less than the price of the original campaign which i see for 30 dollers at best buy 20-25 dollers would have been best to charge since its only a expanshion and not a full campaign but again Companies love money more than customer care and service
Im still confused how A American Made and Based Game can charge less in the uk you saiy 17.99 what ever that symbol is im not sure what the conversion rate is but how and the heck can Anet hate its own country this much to give all the mini pet promotions and cheap discounts to non US members no offence to anyone but i think you would agree that if a Company released a game in your country that was made their as well but charged less to people in a different country and realesed more content to them how would you feel.
Does anyone feel as if ANET Dislikes americans even tho they are in fact american
Im still confused how A American Made and Based Game can charge less in the uk you saiy 17.99 what ever that symbol is im not sure what the conversion rate is but how and the heck can Anet hate its own country this much to give all the mini pet promotions and cheap discounts to non US members no offence to anyone but i think you would agree that if a Company released a game in your country that was made their as well but charged less to people in a different country and realesed more content to them how would you feel.
Does anyone feel as if ANET Dislikes americans even tho they are in fact american
Uber Mass
its worth it tho im wondering if its going to last for me till 2009-2010 i hope they will add some nice stuff later on who knows.....
boxterduke
GWEN is way better that some other games that are out there.
For the $40-50 we payed we got a lot considering all the work that we have to do to get crafters to talk to us.
Thats playing time that we payed for. Much better than bioshock with its $50 tag and 9 hours of play and 5 times limit for install.
So all in all, yeah gwen is worth the price.
For the $40-50 we payed we got a lot considering all the work that we have to do to get crafters to talk to us.
Thats playing time that we payed for. Much better than bioshock with its $50 tag and 9 hours of play and 5 times limit for install.
So all in all, yeah gwen is worth the price.
Necromonger
No its not too expensive, a lot of work was done for GW:EN, and I'm sure they will continue to update it over the next few months.
The whole Anet model comes across to me as quite a good value, I've been playing GW for two years, and will probably play for a good while still.
Compared to the traditional stand alone game or monthly fee online games, it still works out to be a good buy.
The whole Anet model comes across to me as quite a good value, I've been playing GW for two years, and will probably play for a good while still.
Compared to the traditional stand alone game or monthly fee online games, it still works out to be a good buy.
ChaoticCoyote
Excellent storyline, fun quests, great dungeons, pretty loot, Jora's and Livia's boobs...
...yup, I'm happy. GW:EN is worth it at twice the price.
I've put in about 20 hours over the last four days, and while I finished the "campaign", I still have 14 dungeons, 30-40 quests, and a lot of exploring to do.
Good stuff.
...yup, I'm happy. GW:EN is worth it at twice the price.
I've put in about 20 hours over the last four days, and while I finished the "campaign", I still have 14 dungeons, 30-40 quests, and a lot of exploring to do.
Good stuff.
aismailuk
Nah, I'd say it was definitely worth the money.
Let's think....monthly subscription? No
Extra play until Guild Wars 2 comes out? Yes
There's so much to thank Anet for in terms of their focus towards gamers having fun and not having to pay a subscription for it.
I would say, if you enjoy the game, then it's worth the money. If you hate the game, obviously it's not worth the money.
Let's think....monthly subscription? No
Extra play until Guild Wars 2 comes out? Yes
There's so much to thank Anet for in terms of their focus towards gamers having fun and not having to pay a subscription for it.
I would say, if you enjoy the game, then it's worth the money. If you hate the game, obviously it's not worth the money.
Squalus the Ipno
not worth it IMHO 29€
think Anet have spent maximun 2 mounths to realize EN, very small expansion. 1 Mounth and people will be bored again rolf
think Anet have spent maximun 2 mounths to realize EN, very small expansion. 1 Mounth and people will be bored again rolf
Davros Uitar
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Originally Posted by Necromonger
No its not too expensive, a lot of work was done for GW:EN, and I'm sure they will continue to update it over the next few months.
The whole Anet model comes across to me as quite a good value, I've been playing GW for two years, and will probably play for a good while still.
Compared to the traditional stand alone game or monthly fee online games, it still works out to be a good buy. I was going to write a reply, but I read this one and think it fits the bill perfectly.
The game has been great value to me over 2 years, and for those worried about the odd dollar or quid - it's only numbers.
The whole Anet model comes across to me as quite a good value, I've been playing GW for two years, and will probably play for a good while still.
Compared to the traditional stand alone game or monthly fee online games, it still works out to be a good buy. I was going to write a reply, but I read this one and think it fits the bill perfectly.
The game has been great value to me over 2 years, and for those worried about the odd dollar or quid - it's only numbers.
Prince Rakarth
dude, if you want GWEN to give you the full service you need to pay alot more than £17.99 ( 
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Tyras
Well we all know GW:EN aint gna end there, like DoA n SF add ons, there will most likely be 1 for GW:EN might take a couple of months maaybe even 6, but they wont stop now in 1 of there interviews on GW2 they wont stop adding content to GW, so bare with em you'll see its worth the cost
Zorgy
"Was GWEN too expensive for what we got?"
No!!!!!!!
Imho I find GWEN TOO cheap in regards of what I get....LOL
1/- I just dropped yesterday (in Asura Land) my FIRST perfect GOLD req9 insc. Elemental Sword.I never intended to farm one
2/- Already said hundred of times.....Since GW release in 2005 I only bought 1 (one) game Obli....that I uninstalled very quickly.
3/- What I love in GW, my first online game, is that you need to deserve IT....Do you follow me?
4/-The more positive you are, the more you increase your chances to reach your goals.
5/- GW is an awesome game.
6/- Congrats Anet....GJ
7/- Keep on truckin & have fun.....its only a GAME
No!!!!!!!
Imho I find GWEN TOO cheap in regards of what I get....LOL
1/- I just dropped yesterday (in Asura Land
) my FIRST perfect GOLD req9 insc. Elemental Sword.I never intended to farm one 2/- Already said hundred of times.....Since GW release in 2005 I only bought 1 (one) game Obli....that I uninstalled very quickly.
3/- What I love in GW, my first online game, is that you need to deserve IT....Do you follow me?
4/-The more positive you are, the more you increase your chances to reach your goals.
5/- GW is an awesome game.
6/- Congrats Anet....GJ
7/- Keep on truckin & have fun.....its only a GAME
The Great Al
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Originally Posted by boxterduke
GWEN is way better that some other games that are out there.
For the $40-50 we payed we got a lot considering all the work that we have to do to get crafters to talk to us.
Thats playing time that we payed for. Much better than bioshock with its $50 tag and 9 hours of play and 5 times limit for install.
So all in all, yeah gwen is worth the price. St. Anger was good compared to most of the music released in 2003, but it was still a bad album. (this coming from a huge metallica fan).
We're not talking about whether or not this is 'relatively' expensive. Most FPSs are overpriced IMO, but an RPG such has this has limitless possibilities, and for some reason they didn't tap into that potential.
For the $40-50 we payed we got a lot considering all the work that we have to do to get crafters to talk to us.
Thats playing time that we payed for. Much better than bioshock with its $50 tag and 9 hours of play and 5 times limit for install.
So all in all, yeah gwen is worth the price. St. Anger was good compared to most of the music released in 2003, but it was still a bad album. (this coming from a huge metallica fan).
We're not talking about whether or not this is 'relatively' expensive. Most FPSs are overpriced IMO, but an RPG such has this has limitless possibilities, and for some reason they didn't tap into that potential.
tyche7
I'm on the fence.
On one hand - comparable to their stand-alone campaigns, it's very expensive for the amount of content. It's only $10 less than an entire campaign but has 1/5th the content.
On the other hand - comparable to other games out there and how much I'll probably play it, it's a deal.
On one hand - comparable to their stand-alone campaigns, it's very expensive for the amount of content. It's only $10 less than an entire campaign but has 1/5th the content.
On the other hand - comparable to other games out there and how much I'll probably play it, it's a deal.
Burst Cancel
EoTN is actually a significant amount of content, it's just that the vast majority of it is optional. For the most part, the 18 dungeons are not trivial areas (at least, not any more trivial than missions in previous campaigns), so if you haven't completed all of them then you really have no grounds for claiming lack of content. It would be similar to claiming lack of content in Prophecies after getting run to Thunderhead Keep and beating the game from there.
There are also three minigames that are simply more fun and addictive than nearly anything else GW has to offer.
I do not claim that EoTN has content equal to the three full campaigns, but I think it has a level of content appropriate to an expansion. Perhaps the price could have been lowered slightly, but I consider it worth the asking price as-is.
Re: Additional content, I don't think there's going to be a DoA-like add-on to EoTN, since there is already an elite dungeon that takes several hours to complete. While it's supposedly not as hard or as long as DoA, it does serve the same role, so I can't see Anet adding something on top of that.
There are also three minigames that are simply more fun and addictive than nearly anything else GW has to offer.
I do not claim that EoTN has content equal to the three full campaigns, but I think it has a level of content appropriate to an expansion. Perhaps the price could have been lowered slightly, but I consider it worth the asking price as-is.
Re: Additional content, I don't think there's going to be a DoA-like add-on to EoTN, since there is already an elite dungeon that takes several hours to complete. While it's supposedly not as hard or as long as DoA, it does serve the same role, so I can't see Anet adding something on top of that.
Croco Clouds
Hope they gonna add a new realm of god or new explorable area to 'balance' the expensive price for the expansion. Has anyone notice the volcano island on your top left tyrian map?
MSecorsky
Easily worth the cost of admission. I'm still in the slack-jawed what-do-I-do-now phase... haven't even started in on the Asuran side of things.
Slow ride. Take it easy.
Most excellent.
Slow ride. Take it easy.
Most excellent.
EternalTempest
To answer the OP question, no.
I knew before purchasing Eotn it was an expansion, not a complete game and as such did not expect the amount of content as a standard game.
I've been happy with the amount of content / price paid, even though it's is short in comparison.
I knew before purchasing Eotn it was an expansion, not a complete game and as such did not expect the amount of content as a standard game.
I've been happy with the amount of content / price paid, even though it's is short in comparison.
Series
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Originally Posted by The Great Al
St. Anger was good compared to most of the music released in 2003, but it was still a bad album. (this coming from a huge metallica fan).
We're not talking about whether or not this is 'relatively' expensive. Most FPSs are overpriced IMO, but an RPG such has this has limitless possibilities, and for some reason they didn't tap into that potential. Actually, I have to disagree with that analogy. Saint Anger wasn't good compared to ANYTHING
On topic,
Think about this. Buying Nightfall gives you a campaign and 2 character slots. Subtract the character slots from the equation and nightfall costs 30 bucks. With that point of view, eye of the north costed MORE money, and provided LESS content.
However, it still owns. I am more than satisfied. A few more dungeons wouldn't have hurt though, or some NICE armor (non-reskin)... or even better, a realm for Lyssa or Melandru (In realm of Dwayna, 55 monks solo YOU!)
We're not talking about whether or not this is 'relatively' expensive. Most FPSs are overpriced IMO, but an RPG such has this has limitless possibilities, and for some reason they didn't tap into that potential. Actually, I have to disagree with that analogy. Saint Anger wasn't good compared to ANYTHING
On topic,
Think about this. Buying Nightfall gives you a campaign and 2 character slots. Subtract the character slots from the equation and nightfall costs 30 bucks. With that point of view, eye of the north costed MORE money, and provided LESS content.
However, it still owns. I am more than satisfied. A few more dungeons wouldn't have hurt though, or some NICE armor (non-reskin)... or even better, a realm for Lyssa or Melandru (In realm of Dwayna, 55 monks solo YOU!)
Gigashadow
Games like these are VERY good value for how much entertainment you get out of them. Even if you only play 2 hours a day for just one month and then then never play it ever again, that is 66 cents per hour -- extremely cheap entertainment. I don't really see how people can spend hours and hours and hours playing a game, and consider that $40 is "too expensive" -- even if you work minimum wage, your time is still far more valuable than the cost of the game.
Ravi
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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
EoTN is actually a significant amount of content, it's just that the vast majority of it is optional. For the most part, the 18 dungeons are not trivial areas (at least, not any more trivial than missions in previous campaigns), so if you haven't completed all of them then you really have no grounds for claiming lack of content. It would be similar to claiming lack of content in Prophecies after getting run to Thunderhead Keep and beating the game from there.
There are also three minigames that are simply more fun and addictive than nearly anything else GW has to offer.
I do not claim that EoTN has content equal to the three full campaigns, but I think it has a level of content appropriate to an expansion. Perhaps the price could have been lowered slightly, but I consider it worth the asking price as-is.
Re: Additional content, I don't think there's going to be a DoA-like add-on to EoTN, since there is already an elite dungeon that takes several hours to complete. While it's supposedly not as hard or as long as DoA, it does serve the same role, so I can't see Anet adding something on top of that. while i agree, here's the thing. there's a lot of content, true, but for what? we didnt get anything REALLY new (except for the dungeons), i mean the best sword in the game is STILL the 15^50 20/20 hp +30, they just gave the same items different skin rewards wich honestly does not justify doin any of the new dungeons.
dont get me wrong the dungeons are awesome, but there wont be much replay value, since i already have the important items, even if anet wouldve gave us stats like these i wouldve been grateful : sword: 15-22 , 15^50 20/20 hp +40 that's all...
what im trying to say is, items had no progression in this expansion, anet shouldve taken that into consideration.
There are also three minigames that are simply more fun and addictive than nearly anything else GW has to offer.
I do not claim that EoTN has content equal to the three full campaigns, but I think it has a level of content appropriate to an expansion. Perhaps the price could have been lowered slightly, but I consider it worth the asking price as-is.
Re: Additional content, I don't think there's going to be a DoA-like add-on to EoTN, since there is already an elite dungeon that takes several hours to complete. While it's supposedly not as hard or as long as DoA, it does serve the same role, so I can't see Anet adding something on top of that. while i agree, here's the thing. there's a lot of content, true, but for what? we didnt get anything REALLY new (except for the dungeons), i mean the best sword in the game is STILL the 15^50 20/20 hp +30, they just gave the same items different skin rewards wich honestly does not justify doin any of the new dungeons.
dont get me wrong the dungeons are awesome, but there wont be much replay value, since i already have the important items, even if anet wouldve gave us stats like these i wouldve been grateful : sword: 15-22 , 15^50 20/20 hp +40 that's all...
what im trying to say is, items had no progression in this expansion, anet shouldve taken that into consideration.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Ghost Recon
Where did you get it from basicly everyone I know got it for around £17.
Sorry I should have said, i boguht mine from play.com for £17.99 as I do everything. But IMO i felt that was still a bit expensive. But Anet were selling it full RRP and saying you had to buy it from them to get the mission pack, so some will have used their online store.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Ravi
dont get me wrong the dungeons are awesome, but there wont be much replay value, since i already have the important items, even if anet wouldve gave us stats like these i wouldve been grateful : sword: 15-22 , 15^50 20/20 hp +40 that's all...
what im trying to say is, items had no progression in this expansion, anet shouldve taken that into consideration. The absolute last thing this game needs is "leet gear". Why would anyone want a WoW style gear-grind to get the best stuff? No, having all gear created equal is ideal. Don't fix what isn't broken.
what im trying to say is, items had no progression in this expansion, anet shouldve taken that into consideration. The absolute last thing this game needs is "leet gear". Why would anyone want a WoW style gear-grind to get the best stuff? No, having all gear created equal is ideal. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Darksun
At first I would have said no. But after seeing the reskins & finding out that many of the dungeons are cut&paste sections, I'm thinking it was a little too much. And that's weird cuz I rave about Anet and the quality of GW to everyone.
Burst Cancel
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Originally Posted by Ravi
dont get me wrong the dungeons are awesome, but there wont be much replay value, since i already have the important items, even if anet wouldve gave us stats like these i wouldve been grateful : sword: 15-22 , 15^50 20/20 hp +40 that's all...
Your mentality is widespread among the GW playerbase, and I've always considered it to be puzzling and misguided. I would say that most people buy games to play them - not to take on a second job so they can get l33t itamz. Sure, I like having cool gear in any game I'm playing, but that's a secondary consideration for me after I've had real fun. I enjoy the (generally) well-designed areas in EoTN, and I love the work they put into the environments. That's why I paid to play it - with or without improved items.
Different strokes and all that, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Ravi
what im trying to say is, items had no progression in this expansion, anet shouldve taken that into consideration.
GW has never had serious item progression. For the most part, things have just been getting easier and easier to get (see: inscriptions). Frankly, I think that anyone playing this game for items is playing the wrong game; you should consider playing WoW or, better yet, Diablo 2.
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