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Azael Durge

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27 Nov 2007 at 16:16 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pocky Alchemist

You're all wrong.

Ever wonder why the Scepter of Orr disappeared at the end of the first campaign?
Ever wonder why the Lich just sorta shrugged off the fact that he would die according to his own beloved Flameseeker Prophecies?
Ever wonder why that whole story didn't make quite as much sense as it should have?

Glint... was setting us up.

Just you watch. It's all gonna be her doing. She sent us back to the too-much-snow place, and had us get rid of some particularly annoying bosses, and made us give her the Scepter so she could plant it in Livia's path. She made Aldebern and Rurik thick-headed enough to let Ascalon fall while the Heroes Of Awesomeness are all still alive. She ruptured the barrier between worlds and led Lord Odran to break into the Mists, to destabilize the defenses between her reality and that of her arch-nemeses, the Gods of Tyria.

It's Glint. She's holed up in a single grain of sand and she's made of fail. She'll kill us all. Just you wait and see.

Hmm very interesting, you may be joking but it sounds possible, Glint is after all a dragon, what possible reason would she have for turning on her own kind? Lets go back and kill her, but this time make sure she has copped it

OR enslave her.

super strokey

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27 Nov 2007 at 18:46 - 162

I think we are gonna see the lich again in GW2 in the first or second expansion as the story comes clearer whats really going on.

The Pocky Alchemist

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27 Nov 2007 at 18:55 - 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azael Durge

Glint is after all a dragon, what possible reason would she have for turning on her own kind?

Exactly! You see, to this weary Ascalonian traveler it is evident, now that we know the truth about those scaly blasphemers, that Glint has been working against us since we first laid eyes on this place called Tyria.

The truth is coming. Mark my words! /shakestick

EDIT: (...If I'm right, and Glint turns out to be evil, I am going to laugh for DAYS.)

Free Runner

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28 Nov 2007 at 00:26 - 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by super strokey

I think we are gonna see the lich again in GW2 in the first or second expansion as the story comes clearer whats really going on.

I doubt we will see the Lich/Vizier. We killed him in the mortal realm and then destroyed his spirit in the Realm of Torment. He should pretty much be dead ....dead..

Guildmaster Cain

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28 Nov 2007 at 10:22 - 165

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pocky Alchemist

Exactly! You see, to this weary Ascalonian traveler it is evident, now that we know the truth about those scaly blasphemers, that Glint has been working against us since we first laid eyes on this place called Tyria.

The truth is coming. Mark my words! /shakestick

EDIT: (...If I'm right, and Glint turns out to be evil, I am going to laugh for DAYS.)

I've warned that Glint is evil about since the beginning of GW-history. Yes, I'm gonna be partying when she finally exposes herself and wipes us all out in her big scheme.

Btw, there is also a dragon in the UW, in the Obsidian Behemoth area. I wonder if its a statue or also a primordal dragon... Oo... since its kinda biiiiiig.

Neriandal Freit

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28 Nov 2007 at 13:04 - 166

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

I've warned that Glint is evil about since the beginning of GW-history. Yes, I'm gonna be partying when she finally exposes herself and wipes us all out in her big scheme.

Btw, there is also a dragon in the UW, in the Obsidian Behemoth area. I wonder if its a statue or also a primordal dragon... Oo... since its kinda biiiiiig.

You aren't thinking of the Serpent Brothers (I believe that is the title) are you?

Free Runner

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28 Nov 2007 at 16:26 - 167

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Btw, there is also a dragon in the UW, in the Obsidian Behemoth area. I wonder if its a statue or also a primordal dragon... Oo... since its kinda biiiiiig.

The Serpents are actually two brothers who challenged Grenth to a dual and lost. He then changed them into serpents for punishment.

super strokey

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28 Nov 2007 at 16:57 - 168

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

I doubt we will see the Lich/Vizier. We killed him in the mortal realm and then destroyed his spirit in the Realm of Torment. He should pretty much be dead ....dead..

Yeah maybe, he just seems so sneaky and devious that i bet he could survive some how

Aubis

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29 Nov 2007 at 01:45 - 169

What if Glint is like the avatar of anicent dragons like how abaddon was using demons to setup for his return the dragon may of made the Flameseeker plot to keep us busy and weaking the races that could stand up to them when they return

NelZelpheer

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29 Nov 2007 at 10:49 - 170

I know Cantha has dragon statues, but this looks like the Kaineng Dragon

P.S This may have been mentioned earlier, haven't read whole thread.

Suspected Dragons

Anyho. Looks just like the other 2 Canthan Dragon's we've seen so far.

Just some food for thought I guess.

draxynnic

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30 Nov 2007 at 00:10 - 171

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

I've warned that Glint is evil about since the beginning of GW-history. Yes, I'm gonna be partying when she finally exposes herself and wipes us all out in her big scheme.

Up until the time you get wiped out yourself. Since you know too much, you'll be among the first to learn what it is to meddle in the affairs of dragons.

stefke86

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01 Dec 2007 at 10:55 - 172

how about the dragon in Saltspray Beach. It seems that during his sleep a dune formed over his body, maybe this is the 3rd kaineng dragon? Or the Deep sea dragon for thatmatter, since 'the deep' is also located somewhere in that area

ensoriki

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Canada bro.

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01 Dec 2007 at 19:22 - 173

It won't be possible for us to see most of these dragons.

For them to be hibernating, they would be Buried or hiding in a place we couldn't reach as of yet.

Drakker is likely because hes buried in a frozen Lake.

Primordius, underground.

Undead dragon, under orr.

Azael Durge

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01 Dec 2007 at 22:43 - 174

So we are assuming Glint has plotted our down fall, What about Kuuvang (or how ever you spell it) she helped us defeat shiro, perhaps the Canthan dragons will help us? Perhaps the tyrian dragons see them as less due to there wyrm like bodies? Im not sure just speculation.

Sister Rosette

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02 Dec 2007 at 02:49 - 175

Age is meaningless, as history and time have proven again and again.
Strength is fleeting, as those with the most are still bound by the shackles of fragility.
Resolve is eternal, as those who learn from history are doomed to create it.

Believe the impossible, and kick reason to the curb.

kuhu

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02 Dec 2007 at 05:36 - 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azael Durge

So we are assuming Glint has plotted our down fall, What about Kuuvang (or how ever you spell it) she helped us defeat shiro, perhaps the Canthan dragons will help us? Perhaps the tyrian dragons see them as less due to there wyrm like bodies? Im not sure just speculation.

What Im saying is complete speculation, but it makes sense to me.

Both Glint and Kuunavung helped us yes, but think about it really. The Lich unleashed the titans, which could have easily wtfpwned the destroyers, so Glint had us take care of that challenge. Shiro proved to be another challenge to us, since he was an envoy and could have also owned the destroyers.

Also when people say Abaddon was trying to free himself, he wasn't trying to escape the realm of torment, he was trying to pull the world INTO the realm of torment. Once again Evil God + Demonic Servants + 2 powerful generals + generals servants (titans, shiro'ken, etc.) > Dragons and destroyers.

The Dragons can't do much if they're stuck in the realm of torment anyways, which is what the Lich, Shiro and Abaddon was trying to do. Imagine if Abaddon was freed from his shackles too. He was stronger than 2 gods combined. With that said he could have easily taken on each dragon himself. The Dragons (including Glint and Kuunavung) have enough of a challenge as it is already with the 5 main gods, they don't need Abaddon, Dhuum and Menzies challenging them for superiority as well. If you think about it, the Dragons might not even fight the 5 gods, but they would have definitely fought Abaddon, Menzies and Dhuum, since Abaddon was trying to essentially take over the world with Dhuum and Menzies tagging along.

I can speculate more about this tomorrow if you really want haha.

John Panda

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02 Dec 2007 at 06:15 - 177

according to the guild wars gw2 sneak peak dragons will be a major threat or were once a major threat.. causing havoc through out gw 0:

John Panda

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02 Dec 2007 at 06:16 - 178

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aubis

What if Glint is like the avatar of anicent dragons like how abaddon was using demons to setup for his return the dragon may of made the Flameseeker plot to keep us busy and weaking the races that could stand up to them when they return

no glint is just a baby compared to the other dragons, the other dragons are suppose to be older than history 0:

TechnoSword

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02 Dec 2007 at 07:01 - 179

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azael Durge

So we are assuming Glint has plotted our down fall, What about Kuuvang (or how ever you spell it) she helped us defeat shiro, perhaps the Canthan dragons will help us? Perhaps the tyrian dragons see them as less due to there wyrm like bodies? Im not sure just speculation.

A few things came into my mind when I thought about that. First GW 2 expansion = Cantha become some sort of superpower in hiding after all the time inbetween. Saving tyria with some sort of super zodiac force =P, Second Tyrannical rule = Somewhat propaganda poster. Either way i was bored and i felt like making something

Enjoi.

ensoriki

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Canada bro.

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02 Dec 2007 at 22:19 - 180

Thats a pretty nice poster....but umm.

I think all Juggernaut were wiped out.

It says all non human races were removed.
Juggernauts are no longer humans, and kurzicks are removed from their forest and can't make more.

Mark Nevermiss

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03 Dec 2007 at 06:28 - 181

I think that was a reference to the like of the Dredge, the Wardens, the Mantids and so forth.

The emperor would be a fool to discontinue the Juggernauts rather than have them at his service along with the giant turtles, being powerful tools that he otherwise lacks and would tip the balance in his favor in international conflicts.

Drage

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03 Dec 2007 at 17:34 - 182

Last night i did the Sunjiang Mission, and i think i saw a Dragon Head there. Its coming out of the ground, just when you pass Shiro. That room with obstacles. Ever saw that head there?

mazey vorstagg

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03 Dec 2007 at 17:47 - 183

Yes, it's supposed to be a stone statue fallen from above in the Shiroquakes

KalleDamos

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08 Dec 2007 at 19:01 - 184

I read an interesting theory on a talk page on guildwiki. It basically guessed that the two dragon lighthouses on Shinge Jea and Cantha act both as light houses and as becons, basically pointing in the direction of the deep dragon.

Neriandal Freit

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08 Dec 2007 at 22:49 - 185

Quote:

Originally Posted by KalleDamos

I read an interesting theory on a talk page on guildwiki. It basically guessed that the two dragon lighthouses on Shinge Jea and Cantha act both as light houses and as becons, basically pointing in the direction of the deep dragon.

That is an interesting theory and sounds like something ANet would do

ensoriki

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Canada bro.

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08 Dec 2007 at 23:44 - 186

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss

I think that was a reference to the like of the Dredge, the Wardens, the Mantids and so forth.

The emperor would be a fool to discontinue the Juggernauts rather than have them at his service along with the giant turtles, being powerful tools that he otherwise lacks and would tip the balance in his favor in international conflicts.

He killed the alliances he's already a fool. because now he has to fight us.

And we have fought hundreds of enemies in a 8-12 man cell.

His stupid Army is nothing.

Guildmaster Cain

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08 Dec 2007 at 23:57 - 187

Well if you are looking for dragon statues, you can find a lot of those in Cantha.
-outside of Keineng city, on the small islands in the water
-sunjiang district
-AB map Saltspray, at the shrine where the Saltspray Dragon spawns.

Also UW has a VERY big dragon, all over the mountains of the area in which there are Obsidian Behemoths.

Aubis

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10 Dec 2007 at 14:05 - 188

The monutains in UW are 2 giant Snakes who were two people who tried to fight Grenth and failed

Milea

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10 Dec 2007 at 16:49 - 189

This Dragon that is awakened at the end of EoTN is called Primordus. He is said to be the main antagonist in GW2, and the the Great Destroyer was one of his Generals. Yes, he does look like Glint, there is possibly even a connection between them. The Ancient Dragons are also spoken about as the main antagonists of GW2, with Primordus.

Operative 14

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10 Dec 2007 at 19:29 - 190

^^ well thank you for telling us that

KalleDamos

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11 Dec 2007 at 04:29 - 191

I have spent about an hour a night for a couple weeks scouring the Crystal Desert, looking for any trace of a 'desert dragon' outside of glint. I was going on a few tips, but people seem to think those giant bones in the desert ARE the dragons. People are stupid, but I do have some interesting pictures that remind me of dragons.

Also I would like to bring something else up. There is a page on guild wiki called the "Air Dragon" people guessing that the tower of ice in Ice Cliff Chasam with that thing twisting around it is another dragon. There is no way that this thing is a dragon, no way at all. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Air_Dragon

KalleDamos

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12 Dec 2007 at 01:24 - 192

Goron's Dragon! During Goron's Stuff part 2 Goron has a baby dragon hatch from an egg! And it lives in the Hidden City! Come on people speculate!

Shadowmere

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12 Dec 2007 at 06:11 - 193

Shiny FTW!!

I wish we saw him more than at the end of that quest, such a cute lil guy!

Watch, it turns out in GW2 Shiny is the good dragon that saves all our arses. Goren's a good mommy!

KalleDamos

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12 Dec 2007 at 12:43 - 194

Either that or is eventually swayed by the Anicent dragon to be a general or some such nonsense, unless Goren lived to be 300 years old....which would be cool, lack of brains they gotta compinsate somehow(and alwasy seem to live longer than Koss.)

I just find it strange that there are now two baby dragons in two countries(Elona and Tyria) and both these baby dragons seem to be kinda close to each other geographically. Seems, interesting. anet has been planing this since day 1 if you ask me...cause there are so many dragon things that I have found in Tyria that seem a little out of place...I'll post some shortly.

As a lil note, since it has been announced about this, I've been scouring Tyira looking for connections to the Dragon, and I have found quite a few, but surpisingly most in the Maguma and Ascalon...

Images to follow.

English Warrior

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17 Dec 2007 at 22:17 - 195

Ok must of us now know that theres Primordus and Drakkar has any1 else got any screenshots of new found dragons, theres 7 dragons we know of 2 and one cant be found because it was on the orr islands which were sunk by the lich lord.

Guildmaster Cain

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18 Dec 2007 at 10:48 - 196

The dragon in the charr lands is a confirmed one. He is just southwest of Doomlore shrine, on the border of the map crossover.

Rest of the dragons is just speculation.

-The tower in Ice Cliff Chasms
-Dragon isle outside Shing Jae
-Dragon Isle outisde Keineng City
-Dragon Shrine in middle of Saltspray Lake (AB map)
-Twin Serpent mountains in UW (if you believe the Reaper is lying)

Then again... there are about 10 more threads bout the same thing, i suggest looking through those for more answers.

Free Runner

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18 Dec 2007 at 12:27 - 197

How exactly does the Saltspray Dragon Shrine on Saltspray Beach translate to Ancient Dragon? or are we speculating anything with the word Dragon in it now?

I do find the thing about the Twin Serpents being a lie interesting though (I wondered how Twin Serpents Lake was named unless it was the place Grenth defeated and turned them)...but its probably true as the Reapers are not exactly the secret keepers of the Mists.

Also i count 5 known dragons 3 of which can be seen in game.

- Dragon in Drakkar Lake (Dragon of Ice and Snow)
- Primordus
- Dragon in Charr Homelands (Only reffered to as "Waterdragon" so far)
- Deep Sea Dragon (That made the sea partially "come alive" with its corruption)
- Dragon under Orr (Commander of the Undead that appear)

The article told about a 6th Dragon appearing in the Crystal Desert but since it also says the Dragon from the Charr Homelands flew south its yet unknown as to if its the same Dragon or a new one woken in the desert.

Also people have speculated as to if the Deep Sea Dragon is the Orr Dragon (Probably unlikely) meaning there are only 4 actual Dragons we know exist.

So just wondering....who is Dragon number 7?

KalleDamos

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18 Dec 2007 at 15:56 - 198

For some reason, people think that dragon 7 is that snake statue in Ice Cliffs. I think its just foolish. If we say that is a dragon, its like saying every single dragon statue in the game could be an anciet dragon. It may play some roll in GW2, it may just be a general of Drakkar or something like the 'Great' Destroyer was a general of Primordous, but it is not an Anciet dragon. I offer a lot of evidence to this, but people are stupid sometimes and refuse to remove the page from guildwiki.

Chilos

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27 Dec 2007 at 20:52 - 199

DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNN
So those are UW 'gons, if yer wondering.

Dervish Kid

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28 Dec 2007 at 02:47 - 200

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Originally Posted by -Old 3FL-

I was very dissapointed @ the shown "Destroyer" at end of eotn. I expected it to be the Dragon. but sadly no.
I think we just got shown the nemesis in GW2, as i love evil dragons, I'll get Gw2 if it is xD

As far as power i think (highest to lowest) -
Abaddon.
Destroyer.
Lich.
Shiro.

the baddie that goes on top of abbodon should be the dragonshown in eotn unless theresbigger ones..:O