New Update!

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Will this save PvP? And what's your opinion about this update, overall?

Edit: lol, I was too excited so I mistyped a title of thread >.< /fail
Can moderators fix this?

Lets Get to Healing

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Update - Thursday, September 27, 2007
Imperial Herald

* An Imperial Herald may now be found in the Great Temple of Balthazar. Players may consult the herald for details about the Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack Promotion, which is active through Noon PST (-8 GMT) on October 31, 2007.
* The Imperial Herald will periodically have new topics and announcements to share.

Ebon Vanguard Special Ops

Several new encounters are available from Captain Langmar.

* Players who have rescued Captain Langmar from the Charr Flame Legion can find her in Grothmar Wardowns, just outside of Longeye’s Ledge.
* Captain Langmar can provide a Charr Battle Plan Decoder for use with encrypted Charr battle plans.
* Successfully decrypted plans can then be brought back to Captain Langmar in order to launch a Special Ops encounter.

Anti-Griefing Measures

To help counteract undesirable PvP behavior, a Dishonorable Combatant system has been added to the game and a series of Arena time limit changes have been put into effect. In addition to these measures, we will be evaluating a new Report Command feature from September 28th to the 30th, after which it will be disabled pending further testing.
Report Command

Players can now use the /report command to report other players for inappropriate or anti-social behavior.

* Targeting a player and typing /report or /report followed by a player's name will open a new report dialog panel. From this panel, you can report a chosen player for leeching, botting, spamming, using abusive language, or having an inappropriate character name. Reports will then be relayed and reviewed by the Guild Wars Support team.
* You can report a player for leeching if you’re in the same Random Arena, Alliance Battle, or Competitive Mission as that player. If at least half your team reports the same player for leeching, that player will be stripped of XP and faction rewards for the battle. See the "Dishonorable Combatant System" section below for more details. Note that you can only report members of your own party or team for leeching.
* Reports of botting, spamming, abusive language, and inappropriate character names will be relayed to and reviewed by the Guild Wars Support team. Note that reporting a single player multiple times for the same offense will not expedite or influence support team attention.
* A single account cannot use the /report command more than 50 times in a 24-hour period.

Dishonorable Combatant System

To discourage experience and faction leeching, intentional stalling of of arena matches, and leaving matches in Random Arena, Alliance Battles, the Jade Quarry, and Fort Aspenwood before they are complete, a Dishonorable Combatant penalty system has been put into effect.

Dishonor

Dishonor points affect game types that have randomly formed teams such as Random Arenas, Alliance Battles, and Competitive Missions.

* An account may be given dishonor points for leaving a PvP match prematurely, for leeching experience or faction, or for falsely reporting teammates for leeching.
* Players who leave a PvP match prematurely will receive 5 dishonor points.
* If a player is reported for leeching, that player will receive 2 dishonor points for each report against him. Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points.
* Any account that has accumulated 10 or more dishonor points is given the Dishonorable status, which is displayed as a buff icon on screen. While affected by this status, no characters present on that account may enter any PvP missions.
* The Dishonorable status remains in effect for 1 minute for each accumulated dishonor point. This status cannot be removed by logging out or changing characters.
* When the duration of the Dishonorable status has expired, characters on that account may once again join PvP missions.
* Dishonor points will remain on the player's account for a total of 60 minutes. If further dishonor points are acquired during this period, that account is once again given the Dishonorable status, though for a longer period of time.
* To clear dishonor points from an account, a player must go 60 minutes without accumulating any new dishonor points.

Arena Time Limit Changes

To discourage players from deliberately trying to prolong Team Arena and Random Arena matches unnecessarily, the following changes are now in effect:

* Standard Annihilation matches now have a time limit of 8 minutes.
* Priest Annihilation matches now have a time limit of 12 minutes.
* When a match’s designated time limit expires, the team with the highest total morale will be declared the winner. In Priest Annihilation maps, if both teams have equal morale but only one team has a live Priest, the team with the Priest will be declared the winner. If neither of these tie-breakers applies, both teams will lose the match.

Revised Gladiator Title

With the introduction of the Dishonorable Combatant system, we’ve made some changes to the Gladiator title track that will make it more reasonable for average players to attain the track's titles. In the new system, we have multiplied the number of Gladiator points required for each title rank by four, and Gladiator points will now be earned in the following increments:

* Players will now receive 1 Gladiator point for every 5 wins in an arena.
* Each additional 5 wins after the initial point is earned will give players an added bonus Gladiator point. Thus, players also earn 2 Gladiator points for their 10th consecutive win, 3 Gladiator points for their 15th consecutive win, and 4 Gladiator points for their 20th consecutive win.

* The Gladiator point bonus is capped at a maximum of 4 bonus points. This means that players who continue to be victorious after 20 consecutive wins will continue to earn 4 Gladiator points each time they win 5 additional matches.

To compensate for the adjusted difficulty of the Gladiator title, players' current Gladiator points and Gladiator title ranks will be adjusted.

* All current Gladiator point totals will be multiplied by 6. Thus, if a player had rank 5 of the Gladiator title with 350 Gladiator points, that player will now be rank 6 with 2,100 Gladiator points.

The adjusted Gladiator title ranks are as follows:
Title rank Points needed Title name
1 100 Gladiator
2 200 Fierce Gladiator
3 400 Mighty Gladiator
4 672 Deadly Gladiator
5 1120 Terrifying Gladiator
6 1864 Conquering Gladiator
7 3100 Subjugating Gladiator
8 5184 Vanquishing Gladiator
9 8640 King's Gladiator
10 14400 Emperor's Gladiator
11 24000 Balthazar's Gladiator
12 40000 Legendary Gladiator

Bug Fixes

* Fixed a bug that caused the griffon in the Eye of the North quest "Cold as Ice" to become unresponsive at times.
* Fixed a bug in the Eye of the North quest "Plan A" that prevented anyone but the player who turned in the plans from completing the quest.
* Fixed a bug that occasionally caused wurms to lurk and not resurface.
* Fixed a bug that prevented rainbow phoenix pets from evolving into dire pets.
* Fixed a bug in the Eye of the North quest "Crystal Method" that prevented players from obtaining additional Eldritch Crystals from the Eldritch Ettin once they had defeated him the first time.
* Fixed a bug that caused some players to enter a district with the wrong language when entering an outpost from an explorable area.
* Fixed a bug in the Eye of the North primary quest "The Elusive Golemancer" that occasionally caused the first worker golem to stop following the players.
* Fixed a bug in the Eye of the North primary quest "Blood Washes Blood" that occasionally caused Egil Fireteller to stop following the players.
* Fixed a bug that removed the first PvE-only skill from a player's Skill Bar when any other PvE-only skills on the bar were rearranged.
* Fixed bugs in the Alliance Battle maps "The Ancestral Lands" and "Kaanai Canyon" that allowed defenders to close broken gates.
* Fixed a bug in Guild Wars Nightfall that allowed party members who did not meet the requirements to be turned into wurms.
* Fixed a bug that prevented new Eye of the North players from reaching Boreal Station if they logged out during the introduction cinematic.
* Fixed a bug in the Eye of the North primary quest "A Gate Too Far" that prevented Norn guards from resurrecting.
* Fixed a bug in the Underworld that incorrectly awarded completion for the quest "The Terrorweb Queen" if the player had previously completed the quest "The Demon Assassin." This error prevented players from being awarded the Underworld Hall of Monuments trophy.

Miscellaneous

* High Priest Alkar will now offer and reward the Eye of the North quests "Destructive Research" and "The Destroyer Challenge" in both the Battledepths and the Central Transfer Chamber.
* Fixed the bow type of the Stygian Recurve Bow so that it matches its name.
* Starting on Tuesday, October 7, players in the UK and Germany will be able to purchase character slots and the Guild Wars: 1 Million Edition Upgrade from the Guild Wars In-Game Store using telephony interactive voice response (IVR) billing. Players in the UK will be able to purchase the Guild Wars: 1 Million Edition Upgrade from the Guild Wars In-Game Store using premium-rate short messages (SMS).
* Elixir of Valor now grants a 10% morale boost to the entire party.
* Players who attain rank 8 in the Eye of the North Allegiance title tracks may now receive a veteran buff when they speak to a bounty NPC. These buffs do not give reputation points, but instead award an allegiance bonus every 25 kills.
* Players will now receive notification when they have successfully completed the requirements for the "time attack" or "boss bounty" hunt challenges.
* Updated the scaling of the User Interface so that it more appropriately fits resolutions below 800x600.
* Two new masters have been added to the Isle of the Nameless: the Master of Damage and the Master of Interrupts.
* The green exclamation point over Olaf Olafson has been changed to a repeatable primary quest icon for the "A Gate Too Far" quest.
* Players are now rewarded with Dwarven reputation points for completing the repeatable Eye of the North quest "Kilroy's Punchout Tournament" from Gunnar's Hold.
* Adjusted gates on the first and second levels of the Heart of the Shiverpeaks dungeon to prevent an exploit.
* Made changes to the Fissure of Woe quests "Defend the Temple of War," "The Wailing Lord," "The Eternal Forgemaster," and "The Hunt" to prevent errors from occurring when the party completes the quests prior to accepting them.

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

EDIT: The HoS chest run still works. All you have to do is kill the guards at the door on the level 2, and level 3 dungeon. With the explosives guy still following you around, it's easy to spam the explosives. So, don't gte your panties all tied up in a knot. :P

/report you 100 times just because I think your face is ugly.

/report you because I don't liek your bar.

/report you just because i'm a tosser, and like being an imature 12 year old.


It's a good thing I don't pvp. I'd get reported now just because I experiment builds. *rolls eyes*

Oh wait, I must have skipped over the line about I can only report 50 times in a 24 hour period. Whoops.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

Omfg YES YES. FINALLY AB is viable.

foo

foo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

N/

lots of wanted things, in both pve and pvp. nothing alarming, and a good laugh out of the hos-cr nerf. (anyone knows what's exactly different?)

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

they fixed the runs

The other updates are nice though

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

I remember at PAX some members of the dev team talking about the charr decoder and being able to interscept charr attacks.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Nice update. This should help AB leeching, RA leavers and TA 4-monk griefers.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Yeah, but also one thing is for sure:
/report those bloody shadow form sins who run around all the time

leprekan

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

LMAO get ready for the I was banned for botting threads to start. Guess I better emote before going out doors now.

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

the /report emote seems pretty interesting , now we can report the bots

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

Oh man, they fixed HoS chest runs. :-(

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

this /report command looks to have enormous abuse potential as well. guess i'll be even less likely to pug now.

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

They called the HoS CR an "exploit" when it was just bad planning/lazyness on anet's part...

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

The /report system appears flawed. (OMG, he said something bad about Guild Wars, ban the WoW-fanboy!)

Punishing people who falsely report get these Dishonor points? And you need 1/3 of group to achieve it? (Note to ArenaNet; You can't take 1/3 of 4 or 8 evenly)

So that's 2 players in a RA match and 3 players in a FA match. If that many people on your team is spending that much time reporting, your team has bigger problems than leechers. And, of course, when someone gets punished for correctly reporting a leecher, but since no one else reports the leecher, there will be mass whining.

Also, I can't wait to see the 4 man AB guild group who reports everyone.

I'd offer a comparison to WoW's reporting system...but I'd be flamed mercilessly for even suggesting it.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by plasmasword
They called the HoS CR an "exploit" when it was just bad planning/lazyness on anet's part...
Yes but by abusing that it is called an exploit..

And yes i have been guilty of doing that so i know it was wrong.. but still ya know it remains an exploit

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

I love the comment at the bottom:

"A single account cannot use the /report command more than 50 times in a 24-hour period."

Anet, this shoudl tell you something. If you have to put a limit on how many times someone can use it and even set that limit that high, you must already know its going to be abused...

edit: and no just because we have a faster reporting system, thats not whats wrong with the majority of PvP, so no as the OP asked, it will not fix PvP, just merely put a band-aid on it to help stop the bleeding.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

What are the allegiance bonuses for those who are rank 8? Just the updates to like armor, health or energy but without the reputation bonuses?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

GG ArenaNet you killed HoS Chest Runs.

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]

Me/

Izzy raged my RA team

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhu
this /report command looks to have enormous abuse potential as well. guess i'll be even less likely to pug now.
I agree. This /report command has abuse potential written all over it. In my opinion, they should expand this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Update
* An account may be given dishonor points for leaving a PvP match prematurely, for leeching experience or faction, or for falsely reporting teammates for leeching.
to include falsely reporting an account for any reason. I would also like to see selective removal of the /report feature from accounts that abuse it, but that may be too complex to implement.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Can someone explain the HoS run to me? I saw people spamming for runners but I never enquired further.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by HayesA
/report you 100 times just because I think your face is ugly.

/report you because I don't liek your bar.

/report you just because i'm a tosser, and like being an imature 12 year old.


It's a good thing I don't pvp. I'd get reported now just because I experiment builds. *rolls eyes*

Oh wait, I must have skipped over the line about I can only report 50 times in a 24 hour period. Whoops.
I'm fairly certain that the /report command will include a chat log excerp or screenshot to verify all claims (which is why following the offending target is required). This is a good way to pile up personal dishonor points submitting false /reports lol. It would be funny if the /report command were disabled while dishonor points are present. It also wouldn't surprise me if you can only queue 1 report at a time.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

Basically people would set up as a running build and run trough all the levels.. then when at the boss spam him with the kegs that budger carries and that kills him in no time..

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Yay the 12yr old kids have a new toy to play with ingame you call them noob and: /report You called me noob I'll tell my internet mommy. As already been said it will be abused especially in PvE.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

I don't like /report functions since immature punks will use that with glee. We'll see how it goes though. The rest is awesome.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

Wow! Second update in 2 1/2 years that I actually agree with totally.

KANE

undeadgun

undeadgun

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Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

this is spartan!!!!!!!!

Lets Get to Healing

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkGanni
Yay the 12yr old kids have a new toy to play with ingame you call them noob and: /report You called me noob I'll tell my internet mommy. As already been said it will be abused especially in PvE.
I think its PvP only.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

The fears over /report being abused are overblown, I think. Like in real life, it is the threat of punishment that is the deterrent. I am sure if it actually gets abused it will be fixed.

Personally, I would have preferred dishonor to disallow entering all non-outpost instances period. Also would have been nice to make the characters wear clown shoes a shirt with the words "I R STUPID" in bright red, and a dunce cap that cannot be hidden while in their dishonored "disguise".

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

I like the fact that we can finally report those goddamn leechers in aspenwood which i do for leasure. It sucks though how I have a few innappropriate names such as: The Mtha Fkin Cripz, A Jew Took My Money, and finally- The Japslapper.

Mirikashitakuari

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I haz no logikz

Join Date: Jun 2007

Indiana

BaBy

R/

too bad you STILL can HoS CR...

Barrel spam the doors is what a guildie told me to do...

iunno yet, I havent gotten the new updayte..

PRE NERF FTW!

Kryth

Kryth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ascalon

Venatori Solaris

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
The fears over /report being abused are overblown, I think. Like in real life, it is the threat of punishment that is the deterrent. I am sure if it actually gets abused it will be fixed.

Personally, I would have preferred dishonor to disallow entering all non-outpost instances period. Also would have been nice to make the characters wear clown shoes a shirt with the words "I R STUPID" in bright red, and a dunce cap that cannot be hidden while in their dishonored "disguise".
Seconded, way more constructive.

Acehigh

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

The Charr battle plan update sucks. I just did a mini-mission to defend a bunch of Ascalon soldiers, and all i got was 70 rep points for it.

EDIT: I do believe the Charr battle plan mini-missions count towards ''The Eye of the North'' title track as i am now at 315 points and i haven't edged everything properly and still have 1 dungeon left to beat.

2nd Edit: I was wrong about it adding points, I just noticed the ''Joke'' dungeons like the Snowman Give points now.

Quantum Duck

Quantum Duck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Err7

Me/

Looks like the report feature is only going in for a few days. I hope it works out and they end up keeping it, but we'll see. There could certainly be issues with it if it isn't handled right, which is probably why they're only doing a trial run for now.

The rest looks like a great set of fixes.

Darkhorse

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/A

There's a lot to this reporting stuff, read it carefully before deciding it's the end of the game.

Quote:
* You can report a player for leeching if you’re in the same Random Arena, Alliance Battle, or Competitive Mission as that player.
So not in PvE.

Quote:
* An account may be given dishonor points for leaving a PvP match prematurely, for leeching experience or faction, or for falsely reporting teammates for leeching.
Quote:
* If a player is reported for leeching, that player will receive 2 dishonor points for each report against him. Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points.
And that's to prevent abuse in PvP. If my guess is right this means that even in Random Arenas you'll need at least two people to report a leech, and in AB you need four.

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

So there will be a new title track for leechers then? xD

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Don't forget that large number of bugs are fixed and that there is many good things included, so even if this /report thing turns out to be bad, this after all is, one great update, imho.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildwars.com Update Notes
Reports of botting, spamming, abusive language, and inappropriate character names will be relayed to and reviewed by the Guild Wars Support team. Note that reporting a single player multiple times for the same offense will not expedite or influence support team attention.
so um, pve reporting also.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkhorse
(about reporting)
So not in PvE.


And that's to prevent abuse in PvP. If my guess is right this means that even in Random Arenas you'll need at least two people to report a leech, and in AB you need four.
2 and 2 actually since 4/3=1.33
(as you're actual group is 4 per) but yup, that's my unerstanding as well.


I'll withold judgement (sounds like Anet is also) on the /reporting, but everything else looks solid

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

Pleas enote: The HoS STILL STILL STILL WORKS!

All you have to do is kill the guards at the doors. THAT'S IT. And with the barroll guy following you around, all you have to do is spam drop the explosives. It slowed the run down a little bit, but it's still VERY possible.