HM Spectral Vaettir (Glacial Stones mainly)
Miss Filth
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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
The foes have a apx AP of 160 vs elemental dmg...
Yes... and whats the original source of dmg in the build in this thread??? >.>
tekDragon
Not sure you can make that shadow form build work unless you can find a way to keep shadow form build up continually. Granted that sliver armor is the original source of damage for the Ele build, but it only hits for 7s, so it takes either a huge number of vaettir rounded up to kill one reasonably quick. Crystal wave and Tenai's are not elemental damage and help quite a bit brining down the vaettir's hp.
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by tekDragon
Not sure you can make that shadow form build work unless you can find a way to keep shadow form build up continually. Granted that sliver armor is the original source of damage for the Ele build, but it only hits for 7s, so it takes either a huge number of vaettir rounded up to kill one reasonably quick. Crystal wave and Tenai's are not elemental damage and help quite a bit brining down the vaettir's hp.
Nah, i think you'r wrong or i didnt explain that too well.
Sliver armor was choosed by mistake, as i didnt know anything about the farm and also the 160 armor vs elem damage. Now in my new tests i dont use it... but they are only tests right now. Main source of damage is Crystal wave + Tenai + Archane Echo (duplicating one of those). Sliver armor was just... for doing something in the 20 sec recharge time hehehe.
And your'r right in the last affirmation, both skills arent elemental damage, they just "damage". The only skill that also meets this requirement is obsidian flame but... i think it wonk work here (or could?).
To be continued....
Sliver armor was choosed by mistake, as i didnt know anything about the farm and also the 160 armor vs elem damage. Now in my new tests i dont use it... but they are only tests right now. Main source of damage is Crystal wave + Tenai + Archane Echo (duplicating one of those). Sliver armor was just... for doing something in the 20 sec recharge time hehehe.
And your'r right in the last affirmation, both skills arent elemental damage, they just "damage". The only skill that also meets this requirement is obsidian flame but... i think it wonk work here (or could?).
To be continued....
tekDragon
I personally still use sliver armor to do the farm. I use Crystal and tenai's to get the vaettir low on hp and then trigger armor to kill as many of them as possible one at a time. From what I can tell you get better drops that way, though I guess it's a bit slower.
majiger
Anyone try bunny area with this?
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by majiger
Anyone try bunny area with this?
Yeah i did. You cant hehehehehe. It isnt a fast way to get caster tomes (yeeeeah, i thought that too :P).
Problem is that the other vaettir got Illusionary weapon, that traspases Obsidian flesh as it not an spell and... you die in... just seconds ^^.
I hope it worked... but not...
Edit: minor typo's hehe
Problem is that the other vaettir got Illusionary weapon, that traspases Obsidian flesh as it not an spell and... you die in... just seconds ^^.
I hope it worked... but not...
Edit: minor typo's hehe
ThisIsNi
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
I cannot try as I got my laptop frozen whenever i use Sympa or Ancestor Visage.Too much -3 on screen for a integrated graphic card :P.
Maybe you could use the Famine skill to kill'em all without taking care of damage dealt.
I cannot try cause of my hardware capabilities rofl *plans HA strategy*
Maybe you could use the Famine skill to kill'em all without taking care of damage dealt.
I cannot try cause of my hardware capabilities rofl *plans HA strategy*
geminisaga
why so many vaitir
geminisaga
also how u got blessing w/o fighting
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by ThisIsNi
Quote: Originally Posted by geminisaga why so many vaitir? Errr mmm macro farming? Vaettir-chicken farming? Dont you think that they look like & act like mad chickens when you gonna feed 'em? I dunno, if you are lazy you could do that in groups of 1-3 vaettir but... ¿it is still so fun? Really answer is that they are a large mob, they dont flee from you when you use skills like sliver armor and they have very low AI in HM (yes, worse AI than other foes)
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Originally Posted by geminisaga
also how u got blessing w/o fighting?
I that was.... kinda obvious but.... i just went there with hench and kick his a$$ in another and previous run. No matter if you do that in NM and after that you farm in HM, blessing will be given without any problem hehe.
If you do a dual with 2 ele/me, the norn can be taken down with (a big) effort from your side, cause the healing signet it has (even with the aura + mantra + damage reduction the norn punched my head like a pumpkin hehehe)
Miss Filth
Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Miss Filth
Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?
Doubt it, although there are alot more vaettirs in HM than in NM.
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by Miss Filth
Something i would like answering: Do more glacial stones drop in HM than in NM?
As Arkantos said... drop % may be the same but, you got a lot more vaettir in HM. I think that there are near 20 vaettir in NM and i have a HM counter of 60 killed vaettir, so ... its a maths question
 . More Vaettir, more probably drop (well maybe Arenanet drop scalling, or drop rules skip statistics laws hehehe)I farmed here with a Melandru Resilence Ranger in the past (NM) and i didnt get golden items, just white crap and glacial stones.
the Puppeteer
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Originally Posted by Miss Filth
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Like the both types of highlander blades, platinum broadswords, serpent axes...
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
Nah, i think you'r wrong or i didnt explain that too well.
Sliver armor was choosed by mistake, as i didnt know anything about the farm and also the 160 armor vs elem damage. Now in my new tests i dont use it... but they are only tests right now. Main source of damage is Crystal wave + Tenai + Archane Echo (duplicating one of those). Sliver armor was just... for doing something in the 20 sec recharge time hehehe. And your'r right in the last affirmation, both skills arent elemental damage, they just "damage". The only skill that also meets this requirement is obsidian flame but... i think it wonk work here (or could?). To be continued.... If foes are dropping dead one by one = more drops? then when all drop together. and just use the waves to lower their hp enaugh. on the last 3-4 vaettir standing just use a wave on em - can't be bothered to take em 1 by 1 
ragnagard
Yup!, and lockpicks, black dyes (me not, but guildies, get em), mesmer tomes, ....
sometimes i forget that I am collecting glacial stones too! Yeah, i got platinum broadsword too, as seen in the video hehehe, but i got my r9 just farming the wolfs that protect johon with my monk not here tekDragon
there are always 60 vaettir in hard mode and 15 in normal mode. Three pairs of gauntlets and a couple stones sold off later, I would have to say that HM is far far more worth it even if I did get some gold drops in NM.
Mr.Kotte
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Originally Posted by Miss Filth
Yes... and whats the original source of dmg in the build in this thread??? >.>
Look at the quote that I was talking about.
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...l_Sword_Farmer
MercenaryKnight
What town is it that you leave out of to do the farm? Longeyes? I can't seem to figure out where exactly it starts out at/ what zones you go through.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
What town is it that you leave out of to do the farm? Longeyes? I can't seem to figure out where exactly it starts out at/ what zones you go through.
Yeah you start at Longeye's. If you leave from Sifhalla you'll run into at least 2 groups and I'm not sure you'd be able to kill them.
MercenaryKnight
Also, instead of arcane echo wouldn't it be better to use air of superiority? Since you could get random benefits whenever you kill them? Or even the vanguard ward where it halves recharge sometimes?
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
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I started from Longeye's Edge, then I run through Bjora's Mark (Bjora is the same in both languages!!!
), and enter Jaga Morraine to farm. Quote: Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
Also, instead of arcane echo wouldn't it be better to use air of superiority? Since you could get random benefits whenever you kill them? Or even the vanguard ward where it halves recharge sometimes?
Of course!, and even any other skill I should have if I had done gwen story almost full .... man.... this char is only for farming, i just run there with skills from the 3 campaign and only 8 hours of gameplay with "her". I think i posted that before haha. Maybe a more "gwen-xperienced" elementalist could answer ya!
Cobalt
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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
Also, instead of arcane echo wouldn't it be better to use air of superiority? Since you could get random benefits whenever you kill them? Or even the vanguard ward where it halves recharge sometimes?
You can try either or take Shatter Hex instead of arcane echo just incase they get one in on you.
ragnagard
Nah, I think that there is no need for a remove hex skill, cause you can survive if they put 2 on you (well, with 40-14 hp but survive hehe).
I think that archane echo is better cause you can also replicate obsidian flesh, stoneflesh aura or any spell you want in the run, making you defensive, offensive or both without changing any attrib. or skill.
I am thinking now in a SB+ archane echo 55 monk, cause if you got 16 divine favor you could have it permanently up (i think).... Problem is that you are only a tank and made no damage... or i haven't see how (yet)
I think that archane echo is better cause you can also replicate obsidian flesh, stoneflesh aura or any spell you want in the run, making you defensive, offensive or both without changing any attrib. or skill.
I am thinking now in a SB+ archane echo 55 monk, cause if you got 16 divine favor you could have it permanently up (i think).... Problem is that you are only a tank and made no damage... or i haven't see how (yet)
malko050987
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
Nah, I think that there is no need for a remove hex skill, cause you can survive if they put 2 on you (well, with 40-14 hp but survive hehe).
I think that archane echo is better cause you can also replicate obsidian flesh, stoneflesh aura or any spell you want in the run, making you defensive, offensive or both without changing any attrib. or skill.
I am thinking now in a SB+ archane echo 55 monk, cause if you got 16 divine favor you could have it permanently up (i think).... Problem is that you are only a tank and made no damage... or i haven't see how (yet) Hmm... 18 seconds + 3.6 from 20% enchants mod = 21 ish. They'll get a spell or two, unless you also take Blessed Aura. With it, it will work.
Max out smiting as well and and use Retribution and a few signets? you could go for symbol of Wrath, but they'll scatter. And it would mean you have to get by on very little healing/protection.
I think that archane echo is better cause you can also replicate obsidian flesh, stoneflesh aura or any spell you want in the run, making you defensive, offensive or both without changing any attrib. or skill.
I am thinking now in a SB+ archane echo 55 monk, cause if you got 16 divine favor you could have it permanently up (i think).... Problem is that you are only a tank and made no damage... or i haven't see how (yet) Hmm... 18 seconds + 3.6 from 20% enchants mod = 21 ish. They'll get a spell or two, unless you also take Blessed Aura. With it, it will work.
Max out smiting as well and and use Retribution and a few signets? you could go for symbol of Wrath, but they'll scatter. And it would mean you have to get by on very little healing/protection.
B B
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OgVEMJWJzIJ9pN8VlNsERKqVZAA ^ much faster for just getting golds, which is all I pick up on this farm anyway. 3 minute clear if they spawn right.
(I have max deldrimor title)
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by malko050987
Hmm... 18 seconds + 3.6 from 20% enchants mod = 21 ish. They'll get a spell or two, unless you also take Blessed Aura. With it, it will work.
Max out smiting as well and and use Retribution and a few signets? you could go for symbol of Wrath, but they'll scatter. And it would mean you have to get by on very little healing/protection. Yeah, sorry, i was on the university and have so much time to write haha.
I wanna say with blessed aura too ^^. if you use with the +20%, you should get around 57% of longer enchants.
Mmm about healing... i dont care... just use Shield of absortion and shielding hands, as the +57% will trigger too, so u will have no problem about being hit by them, you will get 0 damage (whell if you dont have problems with shielding hands, that has some bugs, imo). Same "trick" I used with Tahyakun and even with Jade kirin from Pongmei.
Smiting with Retribution doesnt work on vaettir, as you will get 0 damage and 33% of 0... is... Zero too!.I tried it with it as E/M with no cool results
If i was a calmed person with years to do it, i will take Judge Intervention as it does 180 damage in return :P.
Max out smiting as well and and use Retribution and a few signets? you could go for symbol of Wrath, but they'll scatter. And it would mean you have to get by on very little healing/protection. Yeah, sorry, i was on the university and have so much time to write haha.
I wanna say with blessed aura too ^^. if you use with the +20%, you should get around 57% of longer enchants.
Mmm about healing... i dont care... just use Shield of absortion and shielding hands, as the +57% will trigger too, so u will have no problem about being hit by them, you will get 0 damage (whell if you dont have problems with shielding hands, that has some bugs, imo). Same "trick" I used with Tahyakun and even with Jade kirin from Pongmei.
Smiting with Retribution doesnt work on vaettir, as you will get 0 damage and 33% of 0... is... Zero too!.I tried it with it as E/M with no cool results
If i was a calmed person with years to do it, i will take Judge Intervention as it does 180 damage in return :P.
jon0592
Are you sure it's 4 air magic?
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by jon0592
Are you sure it's 4 air magic?
Yeah, i am pretty sure about my words hehehe.
4 air magic is the first air magic level that let's you recharge 25% faster the next 2 spells.
If you cant put 4 at air magic, you'r lacking some rune for sure!
4 air magic is the first air magic level that let's you recharge 25% faster the next 2 spells.
If you cant put 4 at air magic, you'r lacking some rune for sure!
jon0592
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
Yeah, i am pretty sure about my words hehehe.
4 air magic is the first air magic level that let's you recharge 25% faster the next 2 spells.
If you cant put 4 at air magic, you'r lacking some rune for sure! No, I was just wondering
thanks for the response
i got 2 stones and 2 golds while waiting for your response
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4 air magic is the first air magic level that let's you recharge 25% faster the next 2 spells.
If you cant put 4 at air magic, you'r lacking some rune for sure! No, I was just wondering
thanks for the response
i got 2 stones and 2 golds while waiting for your response
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Lyonette
i'd jus like to post my thanks to Ragnagard for this awesome and fun farm build lol.
who knew farming lvl 26 mesmers in hard mode could be enjoyable :P hehe
thanks again!!
who knew farming lvl 26 mesmers in hard mode could be enjoyable :P hehe
thanks again!!
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by jon0592
thanks for the response
i got 2 stones and 2 golds while waiting for your response
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Originally Posted by Lyonette
i'd jus like to post my thanks to Ragnagard for this awesome and fun farm build lol.
who knew farming lvl 26 mesmers in hard mode could be enjoyable :P hehe thanks again!! Np!! Enjoy it more when ya got glacial gloves and still get "rich" while doing this ^^ Let's use this till Arenanet cut our fun-garden .... or just put there another trial to my "build-creation" imagination lol
absolutcrobi
First off AWESOME BUILD!!!!!
Secondly my two cents, I did not need the higher level of air magic, i was just using the glyph to recharge obsidian flash faster, at the max level earth magic stoneflesh recharged before it ran out. I am also not using the totem axe offhand combo, I am using an adept earth staff of enchanting, Energy+10 Halves recharge of spells 20% Halves casting time of earth magic spells 20% Halves casting time of earth magic spells 20% Enchantments last 20% longer That seems to do the trick, I was able to kill 32 of them in under 3 mins.
absolutcrobi Yeah this build is the sh!t. 60 seconds later all 36 of them were dead.
absolutcrobi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=574-bVQbHB4
I have to make a better one, guess i shouldn't have recorded the video in 1600x1200
artay
Thanks to this build I got my glacial gauntlets in less than a day. very nice job on it and thank you.
Just for the record I seemed to get more drops when using silver armour to kill the vaettir, usually got about 2 a run if I crystal waved them and 5 if I used silver armour.
rubina1
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Originally Posted by ragnagard
Build code: OgVEMKGJz4I91GfVe4SwAkNWiA [] So what exactly is the build? Is there a place where I can plug in that build code to retrieve it?
absolutcrobi
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Originally Posted by rubina1
So what exactly is the build? Is there a place where I can plug in that build code to retrieve it?
if you open up your attributes window, pressk, there is a little icon that looks likea floppy disk, click that then press template code. You can paste that code in there and save it as what ever template you want. then you can load it to what ever character you want(that is a e/me)
Adam144
Fantastic build, works well (only had 15 earth magic at first, taking -1 to -3 from all of them, now I have 16 it's all good), pretty quick killing, nice drops.
From 2 runs I got 7 glacial stones, 1 gold drop and about 5 purples. Nice. I only stopped because I wanted to go to UW :P
absolutcrobi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpqO7WrpOrk#GU5U2spHI_4
better quality video of this build in action. I spent a good 16 hours this weekend just running this build over and over. My best performance killed 36 of them in 61 seconds. I have gotten well over 30 golds from here(getting me to rank 2 in wisdom) atleast 20 skill points and 4 and a half ranks in norn title.
absolutcrobi
This build is also easily modified for killing the Ice imps at the cave in the mineral springs for IDS, not that they are as profitable as the used to be. I had you used a full h/h group to get there, but after than i flagged them way far away and was abel to score one on the first run. You would just need to swap out one of the two 15e spells for stone striker.
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