Somebody throw me a clue here...
Why would anyone ever need you to drop something for them to see it? That's what most of these scams seem to be about.
If you wanna see my loot, watch me wearing and holding it.
What is the most pathetic scamming attempt that you encountered?
arcady
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by SuperDave
Me: "WTB bolts of Damask"
Scammer: "I have some for u" Me: "cool, how much u want for it?" Scammer "<insert current going rate here>" Me: "ill buy it" *trade commences* Me: "This isn't Damask it's bolts of Linen" Scammer: "I fail" Me: "So...do you have Damask then?" Scammer: *silence* |
Yeah, a couple of the scams about "dropping stuff on the ground" is caused by people claiming they can "dupe" things. Whats great is, if you fall for that scam, you can't report the guy because you'll also get banned for trying to dupe (even though it doesn't work).
Nian
It's hilarious how poeple come up with new ways to scam scammers and make them look stupid. :P I haven't really ever been scammed directly. Just had arguments with other sellers over price and people offering me items instead of cash while selling and stuff like that.
Once there was a guy who was selling a green for 40k and when I asked it for 30k they started flaming me on local and trade chat non stop for it and went on about how the item would not leave their storage for that price even though I told them fine but 30k is my price. During all that another player saw my WTB and offered me the green for that price.(Maybe they felt sorry for me...) The last thing the flaming salesman said to me was "It's gonna be a long night for you" while I was already omw out of the outpost with the bought item in my hands... and they were still spamming trade chat to sell theirs.
I'm also guilty of the 100g=1g thing but seriously it was my first time trading ever. The seller got agitated even though I fixed the price and said I was sorry and just a harmless nubcake. They still sold me the stuff but I felt pretty stupid... :S
Once there was a guy who was selling a green for 40k and when I asked it for 30k they started flaming me on local and trade chat non stop for it and went on about how the item would not leave their storage for that price even though I told them fine but 30k is my price. During all that another player saw my WTB and offered me the green for that price.(Maybe they felt sorry for me...) The last thing the flaming salesman said to me was "It's gonna be a long night for you" while I was already omw out of the outpost with the bought item in my hands... and they were still spamming trade chat to sell theirs.
I'm also guilty of the 100g=1g thing but seriously it was my first time trading ever. The seller got agitated even though I fixed the price and said I was sorry and just a harmless nubcake. They still sold me the stuff but I felt pretty stupid... :S
Blackhawk
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Originally Posted by DFrost
Already been posted but here goes:
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Forgot to put the "Bullsh" in front of it
Shakkara
Me: Selling Oni!
Scammer: Okay I buy!
Scammer: Hey, I cannot see anything in the trade window!
Scammer: Come out of town with me so I can see it on the ground!
Scammer: Okay I buy!
Scammer: Hey, I cannot see anything in the trade window!
Scammer: Come out of town with me so I can see it on the ground!
AlienFromBeyond
I am so going to use Doublicating now.
Pyro maniac
Next time some Unyielding Aura scammer will party me, Ill take a shadow step and steal his gold while he drops it as example 
or maybe not, got better things to do ..
or maybe not, got better things to do ..
onerabbit
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
Me: Selling Oni!
Scammer: Okay I buy! Scammer: Hey, I cannot see anything in the trade window! Scammer: Come out of town with me so I can see it on the ground! |
same goes for upgrades..
selling 30hp sword pommel.
can i see it?..
whats the point lol
Darkhell153
Me: Selling Minipig
Scammer: Sell it to me!!! 30k (obviously a scammer to buy a minipig for 30k...or a loony xD)
He does the whole let me see it on the ground trick.
Outside*
Scammer: *uses recall* ok please drop it so I can see it.
Me: *activates the minipig* ok done
Scammer: Haha now it's mine... 5seconds later... hey you didn't drop it!
Me: Wow now I can report you for trying to scam me.
I so wish I kept that screenshot, some people are total idiots!!
Scammer: Sell it to me!!! 30k (obviously a scammer to buy a minipig for 30k...or a loony xD)
He does the whole let me see it on the ground trick.
Outside*
Scammer: *uses recall* ok please drop it so I can see it.
Me: *activates the minipig* ok done
Scammer: Haha now it's mine... 5seconds later... hey you didn't drop it!
Me: Wow now I can report you for trying to scam me.
I so wish I kept that screenshot, some people are total idiots!!
Killy D
I had someone want me to drop my tormented sword on the floor so he could screen shot it...silly nub, \(^-^)/ Yay for scammers who make me laugh. \(^-^)/
ProgTes
Dunno if it's already been posted, but there's this Thirsty River dupe trick that no-one ever uses but someone used it on me. Pity I emptied my screenie folder really.
So there's this guy, going I cna duup ur stufff. Lvl 17 warrior in pink armor, with 137 ectos.
So he goes you can trust me, this works, how else would I have 137 ecto's.
So we go to thirsty river, enter the mission and he tells me to stand in a rock. I stand in the rock. He walks like a mile away, then tells me to drop my stuff, count to 3, pick it up. He also tells me it has to be something really valuable, because it can only be done once per account, bla bla bla. This guy wants 50% profit though O.o
So I go, well, okay, I know whats coming. I drop a white staff, and he rages, fool, you ruined it.
Turns out he was going to talk to the Ghostly Hero in that mission and simply outrace me for my stuff. Yaright. It's even on wiki.
He worked it out pretty good though, typed in correct english, whole sentences, dots, comma's, capitals and everything. I rate this scam 7/10, as it's pretty hard to see what's coming, even though the whole drop-ur-shizl is as suspicious as a freaked out banana asking you to eat your shoes.
So there's this guy, going I cna duup ur stufff. Lvl 17 warrior in pink armor, with 137 ectos.
So he goes you can trust me, this works, how else would I have 137 ecto's.
So we go to thirsty river, enter the mission and he tells me to stand in a rock. I stand in the rock. He walks like a mile away, then tells me to drop my stuff, count to 3, pick it up. He also tells me it has to be something really valuable, because it can only be done once per account, bla bla bla. This guy wants 50% profit though O.o
So I go, well, okay, I know whats coming. I drop a white staff, and he rages, fool, you ruined it.
Turns out he was going to talk to the Ghostly Hero in that mission and simply outrace me for my stuff. Yaright. It's even on wiki.
He worked it out pretty good though, typed in correct english, whole sentences, dots, comma's, capitals and everything. I rate this scam 7/10, as it's pretty hard to see what's coming, even though the whole drop-ur-shizl is as suspicious as a freaked out banana asking you to eat your shoes.
nbajammer
Didn't see this one mentioned, although I've only seen it once and didn't fall for it...
I can't remember the exact green but I was in one of the trading hubs looking to buy some green and this guy pms me and says he's got it. We agree on the price, and he opens trade and puts it in. Except, it's customized. I think to myself "this guy must think I'm a real idiot if he thinks I'm going to buy a customized green.". So I cancel trade and he pms me "?" and I said "That item is customized, I cannot buy that." and he disappears, never heard from him since.
I can't remember the exact green but I was in one of the trading hubs looking to buy some green and this guy pms me and says he's got it. We agree on the price, and he opens trade and puts it in. Except, it's customized. I think to myself "this guy must think I'm a real idiot if he thinks I'm going to buy a customized green.". So I cancel trade and he pms me "?" and I said "That item is customized, I cannot buy that." and he disappears, never heard from him since.
WinterSnowblind
I once saw a guy in Ascalon City, asking for a runner to Ascalon for 2k.
Not sure if it was a scam, or if he was just very confused, but it was pretty funny.
Unfortunately, I never got a screenshot.
Not sure if it was a scam, or if he was just very confused, but it was pretty funny.
Unfortunately, I never got a screenshot.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
I once saw a guy in Ascalon City, asking for a runner to Ascalon for 2k.
Not sure if it was a scam, or if he was just very confused, but it was pretty funny. Unfortunately, I never got a screenshot. |
arcady
Well if I read you right, that was someone asking to be run from Ascalon to Ascalon and willing to pay 2k. That's not a scam, it's probably some buffoon making what they think is a joke. If on the other hand you meant to type that they were selling a run from A to A for 2k, then yeah, it would be a scam. Although a pretty dense one.
super strokey
i kinda scammed a guy last night despite my best effort, I was clearing out some inventory in storage for next to nothing (equip reqs and stuff), 50gold each. I just wanted to get rid of them. So a guy comes up and offers to buy my monastery credits. I tell him 100 gold for 2, he goes an puts up 2 gold... i tell him no its 100 gold. He then puts of 200 gold... i tell him thats too much. So he puts 2 gold back in... THis went on and on for about 5 minutes and eventually i just took teh damn 200 gold. I felt bad but after the amount of time wasted i should have just given them away lol
Fluffiliscious
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Originally Posted by ProgTes
I rate this scam 7/10, as it's pretty hard to see what's coming, even though the whole drop-ur-shizl is as suspicious as a freaked out banana asking you to eat your shoes.
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super strokey
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I loled
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Fluffiliscious
I don't sell things to them, we trade stuff. If someone needs something I have, I give it to them but like with the guild "vault" (mule char) we put something in to take something out.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Nian
It's hilarious how poeple come up with new ways to scam scammers and make them look stupid. :P I haven't really ever been scammed directly. Just had arguments with other sellers over price and people offering me items instead of cash while selling and stuff like that.
Once there was a guy who was selling a green for 40k and when I asked it for 30k they started flaming me on local and trade chat non stop for it and went on about how the item would not leave their storage for that price even though I told them fine but 30k is my price. During all that another player saw my WTB and offered me the green for that price.(Maybe they felt sorry for me...) The last thing the flaming salesman said to me was "It's gonna be a long night for you" while I was already omw out of the outpost with the bought item in my hands... and they were still spamming trade chat to sell theirs. I'm also guilty of the 100g=1g thing but seriously it was my first time trading ever. The seller got agitated even though I fixed the price and said I was sorry and just a harmless nubcake. They still sold me the stuff but I felt pretty stupid... :S |
Some people are just morons/youngens.
Chthon
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Originally Posted by arcady
Somebody throw me a clue here...
Why would anyone ever need you to drop something for them to see it? That's what most of these scams seem to be about. If you wanna see my loot, watch me wearing and holding it. |
Accurate descriptions of these exploits and clear-headed reasoning about how to prove one wasn't using them were pretty rare, and silly superstitions abounded. Still, people came to understand that dropping items was a way of proving something, even though they were never really quite clear on what exactly it proved. It became part of the "culture," you might say, and people would drop or ask others to drop items to "prove" this, that, or the other thing on the basis of whatever "explanation"/rumor they had heard and believed.
Of course, since people were willing to drop items to "prove" X, scammers popped up using every conceivable means of tricking people into dropping items under circumstances that allowed the scammer to get there first.
GW inherited this "cultural" myth that "dropping an item on the ground proves something that you can't prove using the trade window" from D2, even though it largely did not inherit D2's legacy of technical problems with the trade window. And, unfortunately, GW inherited the scammers to go with it too.
onerabbit
i dont know if this counts as a scam, but...
Guildchat: hey, does anyone have a wand, doesnt have to be max or anything, i need it to test an UW build.
Me: yeh sure, i got a Zarnas Wrath you can have, i dont need it.
30mins later
Guildchat: Selling Zarnas Wrath 5k
me: dude...
Guildchat: ?
i didnt say anything after.. just kicked the lil shit.
Guildchat: hey, does anyone have a wand, doesnt have to be max or anything, i need it to test an UW build.
Me: yeh sure, i got a Zarnas Wrath you can have, i dont need it.
30mins later
Guildchat: Selling Zarnas Wrath 5k
me: dude...
Guildchat: ?
i didnt say anything after.. just kicked the lil shit.
Squishy ftw
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Originally Posted by onerabbit
i dont know if this counts as a scam, but...
Guildchat: hey, does anyone have a wand, doesnt have to be max or anything, i need it to test an UW build. Me: yeh sure, i got a Zarnas Wrath you can have, i dont need it. 30mins later Guildchat: Selling Zarnas Wrath 5k me: dude... Guildchat: ? i didnt say anything after.. just kicked the lil shit. |
Dweasel
A guy in Lion's Arch was looking for a run to Ascalon. I offered to do it for 2.5k, and he laughed at my price. I asked for a counter offer, and he offered ... a monastery credit.
After a few minutes he agreed to 2.5k, but only if he paid on arrival.
After a few minutes he agreed to 2.5k, but only if he paid on arrival.
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by Dweasel
A guy in Lion's Arch was looking for a run to Ascalon. I offered to do it for 2.5k, and he laughed at my price. I asked for a counter offer, and he offered ... a monastery credit.
After a few minutes he agreed to 2.5k, but only if he paid on arrival. |
I stopped doing runs because of morons who don't pay up.
Fury Incarnate
I've seen a lot of different scams since GW came out - it's actually interesting to watch them evolve with the game. But when it comes to the most pathetic scam, it's either the "Running to uber farming spot 5k" scam or the "Selling uber-rare [insert crappy item name here] 100k+xx ectos!!!11!" scam.
Woop Shotty
There are some pretty big accounts of scamming here. Mine's not as big of a deal, but it has aggrevated me and many others. There are people in pre-searing that say they'll basically make a pre for post gold trade. I think the amount I lost to this guy was 25k. And this guy continues to do it all the time, and he's not alone to do the scam.
boxterduke
I had people putting gold amount instead of plats in the trade window, this was before the way gold is displayed now in the trade window.
I had someone put in mursaat tokens instead of ectos, I wasl "lol nice try"
I had someone put in mursaat tokens instead of ectos, I wasl "lol nice try"
Kusandaa
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And did he pay?
I stopped doing runs because of morons who don't pay up. |
To make sure I'd get some cash, I tried to ask for half at the start, half at the end, but scammers do that so I didn't get a lot of business (but still got some... who actually paid the rest at the end). I tried asking for full payment at the last boss, which never worked because there was always an AFKer or a survivor who didn't want to follow. Payment at the end of the mission never worked, I didn't get paid half the time since people would escape right away, even when they showed me the cash before.
I think I've made one successful run where everyone paid without whining. I stopped running for cash shortly afterwards, but sometimes I still take PUGs when I run the mission for guildies. And I'm amazed that people tipped me for it O_o.
Sypherious
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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
I once saw a guy in Ascalon City, asking for a runner to Ascalon for 2k.
Not sure if it was a scam, or if he was just very confused, but it was pretty funny. Unfortunately, I never got a screenshot. |
OMG, I did that!! about 1 or 2 months ago, i was just being stupid and i started saying that, not sure if it was me you saw. but i DO remember doing that lol
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Chthon
It dates back to D2. There were so many vulnerabilities in the code for D2's trade system that, even quite late in the game's lifecycle, there were still exploits that would allow someone to totally fake what showed up in your trade window. Thin air could be made to look like any item in the game. But the on-the-ground display was, ttbomk, always accurate. Since D2 didn't allow skills or speed boosts in town, "stand all the way over there and drop the item so I can see that you really have it" was not a tremendously unreasonable request.
Accurate descriptions of these exploits and clear-headed reasoning about how to prove one wasn't using them were pretty rare, and silly superstitions abounded. Still, people came to understand that dropping items was a way of proving something, even though they were never really quite clear on what exactly it proved. It became part of the "culture," you might say, and people would drop or ask others to drop items to "prove" this, that, or the other thing on the basis of whatever "explanation"/rumor they had heard and believed. Of course, since people were willing to drop items to "prove" X, scammers popped up using every conceivable means of tricking people into dropping items under circumstances that allowed the scammer to get there first. GW inherited this "cultural" myth that "dropping an item on the ground proves something that you can't prove using the trade window" from D2, even though it largely did not inherit D2's legacy of technical problems with the trade window. And, unfortunately, GW inherited the scammers to go with it too. |
Nemo the Capitalist
lotta scammers out there most of them have been based upon chase me in town etc
warcrap
well a guy was selling some kinda of weapon that was 8-11 it was a sword with an upgrade when he put it on the trade screen he took it away really quick when i put my gold on it but good for me he was to slow and i took it away and reported him.
Str0b0
I can't believe the shadow stepping scams...reminds me of Diablo 2. The old" You go in town and drop so I can see it I'll stand outside of town and look." scam and then poof teleport and snatch.
RPGmaniac
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Originally Posted by Šiljo
dupe under the tree near droknar...lame...
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And thanks to whoever brought up Ebon Escape for shadow stepping.
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz
EAT SHIT AND DIE KURZDICK
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Just throwing that out there.
Lady Raenef
I've never actually encountered one. Ever. Which makes me sad. I have no story to tell.
AuraofMana
I wish there is a way to INVITE in scammers so I can make fun of them, screenshot, and report.
Oh the feeding to my sadistic nature.
Oh the feeding to my sadistic nature.
TheRaven
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Originally Posted by Nemo the Capitalist
lotta scammers out there most of them have been based upon chase me in town etc
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The old...."First person to find me and open trade gets 10k!!!!!!!" spam. It wouldn't be so annoying if the kiddie wouldn't spam it every 2 seconds.
These people spamming it are almost always in Kaineng Center (the section reachable only thru the Divine Path) or Lion's Arch at the Lighthouse.
I was bored one evening so I actually tracked down one of them. He was in LA spamming the message every second. I checked the Lighthouse hill. Of course that's where he was. As soon as I came within his radar he left town. At least I stopped the spam.
So has anyone ever been paid by one of these kiddies?
Omniclasm
I sold my armor for 15k
A piece
A piece