Now that BMP is out, why are so many people regretting not getting it?

Halc yon

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

This is just a small rant that I just wanted to let out.

Ok, the exact same thing happened with the GW:EN Preview Event. ANet gave everyone a few months notice and advertised everywhere. A lot of us got it, but a few of us didn't.

AFTER the event started, everyone started complaining and petitioning that they didn't have the money or had technical problems and couldn't get it. Why then, if you knew you wanted it, did you not start a petition sooner?

There is a reason why it is called a *BONUS*. You have to meet a requirement to get it, and everyone knew what the requirements were.

Some of us who actually earned the freaking bonus might feel cheated if they bought 3 unnecessary character slots to meet the requirements just to find out that ANet was going to release it for sales. I bought GW:EN online and qualified.

For those of you who are younger and couldn't get it, or your parents wouldn't get it for you, I understand. Sorry.

I guess ANet could extend the requirement period for those of you who "didn't have money for it or had technical problems" but didn't say anything until after the release.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

People have been petitioning to buy the BMP in the store before it even came out.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

I dunno, i kinda liked the fact that i bought 3 extra char slots and got bmp, so yeah GO BMP!

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

People are pissed because
A: Not every country it's needed to have a credit card. ( we for instance use the pin system in the Netherlands).
B: They had a paypal pol or to pay by sms. Where's that now? (No you don't need a credit card to use paypal, you can make a bankdeposit to it!!!!)
C: People like me expected perhaps some green items from the missions, Not 4 collections of Great Skins for every character class to attain :X

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

I bet most of the people who could have gotten it didn't because they think it wasn't worth it (because a box of a video game is worth so much more than more game content). They didn't wanted it.
Now that it's out and it OWNS, they are like "o snap liek PETITION I REGRET IT NOW BUT IM NOT GOING TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE MY E-PEEN SMALLER THAN IT ALREADY IS!!1"

Necromas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't regret not getting the BMP.

I regret not being able to get the BMP.

Big difference.

Halc yon

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AuraofMana
I bet most of the people who could have gotten it didn't because they think it wasn't worth it (because a box of a video game is worth so much more than more game content). They didn't wanted it.
Now that it's out and it OWNS, they are like "o snap liek PETITION I REGRET IT NOW BUT IM NOT GOING TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE MY E-PEEN SMALLER THAN IT ALREADY IS!!1"
Exactly. Mr. Groovey proved your point with his comment C.

According to so many GW players, ANet makes crap content and it's not worth buying. So they don't get it, only to regret it later. I don't feel sorry those people.

A lot of people are just making lame excuses for why they didn't or "couldn't" get it.

For those of you who genuinely had trouble getting it, ignore my rant.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

I regret not buying it because they made the weapons(which are all badass looking) customised .not that I could get it anyway,i have the wrong bankcard.

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by AuraofMana
I bet most of the people who could have gotten it didn't because they think it wasn't worth it (because a box of a video game is worth so much more than more game content). They didn't wanted it.
Now that it's out and it OWNS, they are like "o snap liek PETITION I REGRET IT NOW BUT IM NOT GOING TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE MY E-PEEN SMALLER THAN IT ALREADY IS!!1"
... I'd say something nifty so we could all laugh at you, but I'm laughing too much already. You're funny.

I don't have the BMP enabled, simply because I'm paranoid and don't want to put up my bank account info on the internet. Heck, some people even got charged 50 dollars (clicked 5 times in the online store) but didn't get any char slots at first, which was another reason for me to distrust the system.

Furthermore, loads of people are underage and their parents are the ones who decide what gets to be done with money; even though I was 18 back when it was promoted and stuff, I already know my parents wouldn't do it for me, and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one with that kind of parents.

ANet will be implementing an SMS payment option in the 'near future'. A bit too late, else I would've gotten it.

I'm not ranting about not having the BMP, simply because it's just more dumb PvE that could've cost me more than the game (as in, EotN, loads of people bought EotN in the online store after the BMP info was out) costed me in real life (I had 2 price reduction coupons anyway). But fact is that not everybody was able to get it. I just hope ANet will give everybody a proper chance to obtain bonus content.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
People are pissed because
A: Not every country it's needed to have a credit card. ( we for instance use the pin system in the Netherlands).
B: They had a paypal pol or to pay by sms. Where's that now? (No you don't need a credit card to use paypal, you can make a bankdeposit to it!!!!)
C: People like me expected perhaps some green items from the missions, Not 4 collections of Great Skins for every character class to attain :X
Where's the PayPal Poll? You mean the poll where about half of people said they would not use PayPal?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10174846

The BMP was the only reason I would buy GW:EN from the online store. The $39.99 you pay in store includes the box, manual, and CD (not to forget the packing and shipping costs). The online store charges you the same amount while forgoing those things above. I'm sure A-Net knows this and knows that people would rather have the box physically. To me, the BMP was like getting the box. You can argue that there are other things in the store one could purchase (like character slots) and that's true, but it seems it was mainly set up for GW:EN. It was a promotion, a bonus, and it was known for months.

Chrysalis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

I regret not having BMP because :

- I was an early GW fan since World Preview event
- I was looking to enjoy playing all the classes so :
- I bought 2 prophecies accounts from the start, including 1 collector
- I later bought a third prophecies account
- I then bought 2 Factions when it came out, moved chars from 3rd to second account.
- Then i bought Nightfall on main, bought char slots and moved chars from 2nd to main
- I later bought more character slots for mules and pvp

So i regret not having BMP because :
I bought 6 games
I bought 7 caracter slots

And somehow it feels as if Arena net doesnt judge me as a good customer.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

There are some of us whose parents are afraid of us contacting the outside world. Don't hate on us just because you can spend money whenever you want.

Chrysalis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Oh and I forgot Eye of the North so its 7 games and 7 char slots ...

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by booooYA
Where's the PayPal Poll? You mean the poll where about half of people said they would not use PayPal?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10174846

The BMP was the only reason I would buy GW:EN from the online store. The $39.99 you pay in store includes the box, manual, and CD (not to forget the packing and shipping costs). The online store charges you the same amount while forgoing those things above. I'm sure A-Net knows this and knows that people would rather have the box physically. To me, the BMP was like getting the box. You can argue that there are other things in the store one could purchase (like character slots) and that's true, but it seems it was mainly set up for GW:EN. It was a promotion, a bonus, and it was known for months.
And you know why half of all the people said no? Because the poll wasn't set up properly. Because they all commented: I already have a credit card, why would i want to use Paypal?

Check my posts in that thread, I made some effort to make it to people clear:

You can use PAYPAL without having a CC. You can make a BANKDEPOSIT to it.
So people without a cc, can still can make internetz purchases. It's not a preffered way of paying in my Country. (The netherlands).

I still don't own gwen, and want to buy 2 char slots to have all the profs in game. But i'm not going to pay a lot of money to get a credit card, so I can only make 1 purchase through the ingame store. LAME!

Halc yon

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
There are some of us whose parents are afraid of us contacting the outside world. Don't hate on us just because you can spend money whenever you want.
You clearly did not read my post thoroughly. I specifically said that I understand if you are younger and your parents wouldn't get it for you. I wasn't hating on players like you at all.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by booooYA
Where's the PayPal Poll? You mean the poll where about half of people said they would not use PayPal?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10174846
That was an idiotic as hell question to have in the poll. Does that mean that because there are a lot of people that don't use PayPal that they *shouldn't* have PayPal be available in the store?

Quote:
Originally Posted by booooYA
The BMP was the only reason I would buy GW:EN from the online store. The $39.99 you pay in store includes the box, manual, and CD (not to forget the packing and shipping costs). The online store charges you the same amount while forgoing those things above. I'm sure A-Net knows this and knows that people would rather have the box physically. To me, the BMP was like getting the box. You can argue that there are other things in the store one could purchase (like character slots) and that's true, but it seems it was mainly set up for GW:EN. It was a promotion, a bonus, and it was known for months.
I actually haven't seen GW:EN going for 40 bucks in any store so far.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Well, perhaps their guilds/alliances are talking about the new items and discussing the new missions and then they're getting left out and ignored. Naturally they'd either get mad and rage, or they'd be jealous and regretful.

Believe me, I know how they feel.

Halc yon

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I regret not having BMP because :

- I was an early GW fan since World Preview event
- I was looking to enjoy playing all the classes so :
- I bought 2 prophecies accounts from the start, including 1 collector
- I later bought a third prophecies account
- I then bought 2 Factions when it came out, moved chars from 3rd to second account.
- Then i bought Nightfall on main, bought char slots and moved chars from 2nd to main
- I later bought more character slots for mules and pvp

So i regret not having BMP because :
I bought 6 games
I bought 7 caracter slots

And somehow it feels as if Arena net doesnt judge me as a good customer.
And you don't have the BMP because? Remember there was a requirement.

I shop at Wal-Mart, Best-Buy and Food Lion all the time and they never give me anything, sometimes I feel like they don't judge me as a good customer. *sigh*

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
And you know why half of all the people said no? Because the poll wasn't set up properly. Because they all commented: I already have a credit card, why would i want to use Paypal?

Check my posts in that thread, I made some effort to make it to people clear:

You can use PAYPAL without having a CC. You can make a BANKDEPOSIT to it.
So people without a cc, can still can make internetz purchases. It's not a preffered way of paying in my Country. (The netherlands).

I still don't own gwen, and want to buy 2 char slots to have all the profs in game. But i'm not going to pay a lot of money to get a credit card, so I can only make 1 purchase through the ingame store. LAME!
Yeah I know you can use PayPal to make a bank deposit, I have done it in the past. Pay a lot of money to get a credit card? That's interesting.

Maximumraver

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
A: Not every country it's needed to have a credit card. ( we for instance use the pin system in the Netherlands).
/confirm

I live in The Netherlands too, and of all the people i know (enough) none of them have a credit card.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
People have been petitioning to buy the BMP in the store before it even came out.
the going offer at the time was *I MIGHT PAY 5 DOLLARS*

most had access to a CC but *I LIVE IN EU AND MY BANK CHARGES XXX DOLLARS AND I REFUSE TO PAY THE BANK*

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
That was an idiotic as hell question to have in the poll. Does that mean that because there are a lot of people that don't use PayPal that they *shouldn't* have PayPal be available in the store?



I actually haven't seen GW:EN going for 40 bucks in any store so far.
Why was it a stupid question to have in a poll? It basically touched upon what everyone has been saying, "I don't have a credit card, but I would use PayPal" or "I've heard bad things about using a credit card through PlayNC, so I'd prefer using PayPal." If PayPal were available in the store, then great. Unfortunately, prices would go up because it costs money to receive payments.

So, you haven't seen GW:EN going for $40 anywhere, that just makes it more valid to me that it the BMP should not be available now.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

I could care less Im just happy all the items are custom so people can't try to sell them for 100K+.
It was just a ripoff of movies and stories.
300 anyone?
stap/smack with shield and fall off the cliff or in this case the bridge.

Saphrium

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

N/Me

the topic is not making much sense.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Halc yon
According to so many GW players, ANet makes crap content and it's not worth buying. So they don't get it, only to regret it later. I don't feel sorry those people.
Yup, yet they spend all day playing and posting on a forum about a game they supposedly hate made by a company that they claim is incapable of making a fun game. What sad little lives they must lead.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
B: They had a paypal pol or to pay by sms. Where's that now? (No you don't need a credit card to use paypal, you can make a bankdeposit to it!!!!)
after that Poll, PaySafe was announced as an alternative

08/05 Gaile Gray: New payment options added to plaync
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10185281

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninna
after that Poll, PaySafe was announced as an alternative

08/05 Gaile Gray: New payment options added to plaync
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10185281
Is that added to the ingame store already? Don't think so. I can't confirm as guildwars in currently not installed on my pc.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
So people without a cc, can still can make internetz purchases. It's not a preffered way of paying in my Country. (The netherlands).

I still don't own gwen, and want to buy 2 char slots to have all the profs in game. But i'm not going to pay a lot of money to get a credit card, so I can only make 1 purchase through the ingame store. LAME!
blame your benighted EU banking laws that allow your greedy banks to charge outrageous charges for a card.

NCsoft does not regulate your quaint banking laws your government does.

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
the going offer at the time was *I MIGHT PAY 5 DOLLARS*

most had access to a CC but *I LIVE IN EU AND MY BANK CHARGES XXX DOLLARS AND I REFUSE TO PAY THE BANK*
Hell I don't mind to pay an additional few dollars to get something from the internetz.

But I refuse to pay 50 Euro's a year only to make a one time payment at the ingame store. As all other internet purchases I make are either by paypal or bankdeposit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
NCsoft does not regulate your quaint banking laws your government does.
No but it does regulate how we can make purchases

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Nobody is missing the 4 missions, they have no replay-value.

Everyone is keen to get the great weapon skins.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Is that added to the ingame store already? Don't think so. I can't confirm as guildwars in currently not installed on my pc.
I assume so - the info was picked up by Gamenews sites
http://www.developmag.com/press-rele...ng-paysafecard

this is an option for PlayNC purchases (not GW store)
- PlayNC purchases were valid for BMP

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

i am somewhat displeased because anet somehow failed to communicate that they are releasing these badass weapons with the BMP. their initial advertisement said very little about possible rewards, and given their track record, everyone probably expected some marginally effective greens.

had anet simply released a picture of the undead sword, even if it's just a tiny blurry picture, everyone will flock to qualify for the BMP. their failure to communicate is probably the main reason of all the complaints.

personally i'm not really worried. given anet's track record, you'll soon see these weapon skins dropping from HoH chests, or elite area chest, or maybe that zaishen chest in the temple of balthazar, or maybe even pvp reward points.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

2 words - weapon skins

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
double post :/
edit
tick delete post
confirm delete
save mods tidy uo

50 E is truly obscene

Chrysalis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Exactly, there was no way to guess best skins ever would be released in that pack.

If i had the patience, I'd go back to Anet's statements after release of Sorrow's Furnace cause i read some stuff back then that contradicts what s going on here.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

I have to say it is true people were petitioning long before it came out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
B: They had a paypal pol or to pay by sms. Where's that now? (No you don't need a credit card to use paypal, you can make a bankdeposit to it!!!!)
Gaile gave a reason why paypal is a bad idea for Arena Net. It was either on the poll thread or on her wiki talk page.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
People are pissed because
A: Not every country it's needed to have a credit card. ( we for instance use the pin system in the Netherlands).
This is the only legitimate reason I can see that people could be bummed about it. But the issue is much more complicated than "anet just needs to accommodate all countries" Making things work between countries & ensuring that it's still good for the co. can get mucky.

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninna
after that Poll, PaySafe was announced as an alternative

08/05 Gaile Gray: New payment options added to plaync
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10185281
I have the luck to have one of those paysafecard vending machines near my place. Unfortunately the availability of that card isn't very wide spread. The countriy list on paysafecard.com seems to be from the time before that company filed for bankruptcy and some other company bought them.

I got lucky, but NCSoft failed to provide reasonable alternative payment methods since the introduction of the only store!
Maestro Card (available in many European countries) -> UK only
SMS (2months overdue now) -> UK only
IRV (2months overdue too) -> UK+Germany only
Paypal -> the poll on guru was derailed by ignorant credit card owners

The other problem: what to buy? (except for EotN)
PvP packs -> were discontinued during the BMP promotion phase
Character slots -> not available on PlayNC.com
GW merchandise -> not eligible to get the BMP

During the summer both German Elite Fansites joined forces to call for a protest in GtoB international. During that protest we learned two things:
1) GtoB id districts are limited to 50
2) Anet/NCSoft's claim to "listen to the players" is just advertising

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Necromas
I don't regret not getting the BMP.

I regret not being able to get the BMP.

Big difference.
why could you not get it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
Paypal -> the poll on guru was derailed by ignorant credit card owners
There are very good reasons that people choose credit cards over paypal. The only thing ignorant is your assumption. Also, the reason Paypal was shot down had nothing to do with what the people wanted but with what ANET realized was a horrible business choice for them. Gaile pointed it out in her talk page I believe.

Dev121

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
blame your benighted EU banking laws that allow your greedy banks to charge outrageous charges for a card.

NCsoft does not regulate your quaint banking laws your government does.
I'm sorry but you must have something wrong with your or be serioursly thick. The principle is that not everyone has access to a credit card, fair enough. Why is this a problem? It was the only way to obtain the pack, thats the point most people are making but your not intelligent enough to see that.

Amadei

Amadei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Blinkie Ponie Armie

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximumraver
/confirm

I live in The Netherlands too, and of all the people i know (enough) none of them have a credit card.
I live in the Netherlands and I have a credit card. I got one mainly to pay for stuff online, and I've never used it in stores or whatever. They're just not that common over here.

And people are regretting not getting the BMP because the weapon skins are among the best Anet's ever given us.