Now that BMP is out, why are so many people regretting not getting it?
t h i n e eyes b l e e d
A friend of mine had the maximum limit of the character slots on his account and he had unlocked all the skills and runes and had everything that the GW online store could possibly offer.... so he had nothing to buy so he didn't get his BMP cause of that I personally couldn't get it cause my parents don't have a CC
Abnaxus
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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
If it was free why is my wallet 30 bucks light and I'm staring at 3 unneeded empty character slots? If it was freakin free everyone would have it and we wouldn't be having this discussion. I'm no elitist , but I spent 30 bucks I wouldn't have just to get the BMP.
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30 bucks are 30 bucks, with that money a children in an African country could have medicines, food, chances to survive.
What has A.net done to you and many others? Cheated.
They got easy money, selling something they would never have sold in other ways because it was unneeded, something that the buyers themselves consider useless, using the lure of a not well specified "surprise".
In my opinion they made a marketing experiment - everything that's going to happen from now to GW2 will be a market experiment, GW1 itself was - and the result was to irritate a good part of their customer base.
This failure was predicted since the announcement.
iriyabran
when was it not an experiment
just think of game balance
it's where every1 is playing a gunea pig if u ask me
just think of game balance
it's where every1 is playing a gunea pig if u ask me
Clone
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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
If it was free why is my wallet 30 bucks light and I'm staring at 3 unneeded empty character slots? If it was freakin free everyone would have it and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Person B buys the same model HD DVD player from an online store for the same price. The online store is also offering a free copy of Heroes Season 1 with purchase.
By your logic, everyone in the world would have a copy of Heroes Season 1. Think about it, it doesn't work like that. However, the person buying from store A has a wallet just as light as the person buying from store B. The store B buyer is just getting extras. If you want to argue about semantics, you could say free with purchase... which is exactly what the BMP was.
Abnaxus
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Originally Posted by Clone
Person A buys an HD DVD player from local electronics store.
Person B buys the same model HD DVD player from an online store for the same price. The online store is also offering a free copy of Heroes Season 1 with purchase. |
Will not come for free, will spend more money, but if he wants, he has and will have the possibility to buy.
That's how things normally work.
mr_groovy
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Originally Posted by Ninna
mr_groovy you are ignoring that you had 3 months to use Paysafe thru the PlayNC store
NO CREDIT CARD NEEDED |
http://www.paysafecard.com/nl/privat...verkooppunten/
Seems to me that there are no sale points in the Netherlands. GG
Melei Hawke
I completely understand that the people that did not get the BMP are unhappy that they missed out. Unfortunately I think it will be the same as all of us who missed purchasing a collector's edition because they were not available when we got guild wars. They will not allow us to upgrade to a collector's edition (I have asked) and I expect that they will stand firm on the BMP in the same way.
Because of this I will not miss out on any release or bonus that is available to us...I learned my lesson with prophecies and factions...
Sucks? Yeah... Not fair? Maybe not... but that is life....
Because of this I will not miss out on any release or bonus that is available to us...I learned my lesson with prophecies and factions...
Sucks? Yeah... Not fair? Maybe not... but that is life....
iriyabran
the problem is this is playable content
not a stupid collectors dance + 2-3 special items of which all knew before release and didn't have such a restricted way to obtain
and please don't talk about life
if you have enough money to donate to a site you most likely don't know how hard some people live
not a stupid collectors dance + 2-3 special items of which all knew before release and didn't have such a restricted way to obtain
and please don't talk about life
if you have enough money to donate to a site you most likely don't know how hard some people live
Ninna
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Originally Posted by mr_groovy
And where would I pick one of those cards up?
http://www.paysafecard.com/nl/privat...verkooppunten/ Seems to me that there are no sale points in the Netherlands. GG |
buy paysafecard
https://www.wertkartenverkauf.com/
personally,
I doubt you have interest in ever getting one - but the option is there
Shadowspawn X
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Originally Posted by Clone
By your logic, everyone in the world would have a copy of Heroes Season 1. Think about it, it doesn't work like that. However, the person buying from store A has a wallet just as light as the person buying from store B. The store B buyer is just getting extras. If you want to argue about semantics, you could say free with purchase... which is exactly what the BMP was.
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John Ebridge
I regret not having a compatible payment option.
Very early on in the BMP campaign Europeans pointed out to Anet/NCSoft that the payment options in the online shop were insufficient/incompatible and because of that the terms to qualify for the BMP could not be fulfilled.
By means of Gaile, Anet said they would look into that and see if other payment options could be added.
Nothing changed in the payment options.
The results you see in two polls on two different websites.
According to the one on Incgamers 64% has the BMP.
According to the one on Wartower.de, less than 20% has the BMP.
BTW: I recommend everyone the read the post by a moderator on Wartower.de about this topic.
Very early on in the BMP campaign Europeans pointed out to Anet/NCSoft that the payment options in the online shop were insufficient/incompatible and because of that the terms to qualify for the BMP could not be fulfilled.
By means of Gaile, Anet said they would look into that and see if other payment options could be added.
Nothing changed in the payment options.
The results you see in two polls on two different websites.
According to the one on Incgamers 64% has the BMP.
According to the one on Wartower.de, less than 20% has the BMP.
BTW: I recommend everyone the read the post by a moderator on Wartower.de about this topic.
Dante the Warlord
Well, they were really fair about it TBH. If any of you wanted it bad enough, you could have found a way. Im a kid and i did odd jobs (mowin the lawn, taking out the trash, takin care of the family pets) around the house to get my dad to buy GW:EN online, which i wanted to get anyways.
Allowing us to buy GW:EN at the same time as fufillin the BMP req was totally fair.
Allowing us to buy GW:EN at the same time as fufillin the BMP req was totally fair.
Ninna
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Originally Posted by John Ebridge
Anet said they would look into that and see if other payment options could be added.
Nothing changed in the payment options. |
as Ive stated 3 times in this thread
since 08/02/2007
Plaync.com accepted Paysafe as payment option
anyone who bought GWEN through PlayNC store got the BMP
heres a reminder in contrast to your "nothing changed for payment options"
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...=459394&page=4
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* Included PlayNC in the Bonus Mission Pack promotion, because PlayNC has more payment options than the in-game store * Investigated and added new methods of payment, such as the very-accessible (for many) PaySafe method |
Melei Hawke
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Originally Posted by iriyabran
the problem is this is playable content
not a stupid collectors dance + 2-3 special items of which all knew before release and didn't have such a restricted way to obtain and please don't talk about life if you have enough money to donate to a site you most likely don't know how hard some people live |
I am one of the few people here that did not gloat or say that people should not be allowed to obtain the BMP in other ways! I simply pointed out Anet's stance in the past and that it probably will not change in the future.
Solas
NOt wanting to buy it is one thing Unable to buy it is another
read about it aimed at people who had the chance and didn't take it, ofcoarse thats there fault, but being unable to benifit from the online store(While still waiting for the online store SMS......) while also buying the same items as others just feels wrong
read about it aimed at people who had the chance and didn't take it, ofcoarse thats there fault, but being unable to benifit from the online store(While still waiting for the online store SMS......) while also buying the same items as others just feels wrong
Str0b0
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
NOt wanting to buy it is one thing Unable to buy it is another
read about it aimed at people who had the chance and didn't take it, ofcoarse thats there fault, but being unable to benifit from the online store(While still waiting for the online store SMS......) while also buying the same items as others just feels wrong |
mr_groovy
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Originally Posted by Ninna
help yourself to a Paysafe card
buy paysafecard https://www.wertkartenverkauf.com/ personally, I doubt you have interest in ever getting one - but the option is there |
Hollow Gein
I got the BMP because thankfully I needed extra character slots for mules, however, I do feel some empathy for those who didn't get it. I mean who amongst us had any idea just how cool the missions would be not to mention the stunning weapon designs. I'm sure it's been pointed out before, but EoTN felt rushed and honestly, half-assed with terrible reskinned/re-textured armor, unimpressive weapons, and a HoH that doesn't really work. The BMP to me is a more fitting end to GW1 than EoTN will ever be. It'd be nice if somewhere down the road, everybody might be able to enjoy it.
Bowstring Badass
Can we close these make the BMP crap and /cry threads about MAKE IT BUYABLE even though it is supposed to be limited.
Wish Swiftdeath
i dont mean to whine on and on about this but all these people saying "we would have found a way", suggest a way i could have got it (i live in Hong Kong) without a credit card.
Nemo the Capitalist
i am so glad i didnt waste my money for the BMP...sounds ok biuut who cares about customized weapons in all seriouslness...stories well yeah mabye but so not worth it
Darksun
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Originally Posted by Nemo the Capitalist
i am so glad i didnt waste my money for the BMP...sounds ok biuut who cares about customized weapons in all seriouslness...stories well yeah mabye but so not worth it
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gone
just for the record LoL, the fingers are still doing the talking.
Str0b0
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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
i dont mean to whine on and on about this but all these people saying "we would have found a way", suggest a way i could have got it (i live in Hong Kong) without a credit card.
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Peter Panic
i personally didnt mean to get it, i bought eotn and a char slot before i knew about the BMP, but my reason for not intentionally getting it is bc i didnt know how good it was. i was expecting an extra mission or two to explain the loose ends anet didnt tie up with the campaigns, definitely not 4 easy, repeatable quests for awesome skins.
vdz
I'm lucky i didnt get it. Just another marketing trick from Anet.
And the skins arent that great tbh, the ease to get the weapons is funny. Cant wait till i see everyone running around with the same stuff, what a joy !
Not me.....
And the skins arent that great tbh, the ease to get the weapons is funny. Cant wait till i see everyone running around with the same stuff, what a joy !
Not me.....
cyx7
I'd pay for these bonus missions if they were made available in the Guild Wars Store. 
Vl Vl D
Im just glad I got the bmp instead of the box....after all im sure Gail did say the bmp was a thank you to the people that brought Gwen in the GW online store or NC store instead via a retail outlet.I do remember people saying they would rather the box.
Mineria
First I got to say that I have the BMP, and I enjoy its content.
But here is what I don't understand:
Why is Anet so fixated on the online shop, and is not selling gamecards or some other way that gives a key that unlocks stuff?
There are lots of people that don't own a credit card, that would buy game content if it was released in a way so you could purchase it at their local game shop.
I know several players that got every campaign, eotn and even additional accounts, but they can/will not buy online, but if they got it offered in their local game shop, they would buy it at once.
That is something Anet should think a bit about.
But here is what I don't understand:
Why is Anet so fixated on the online shop, and is not selling gamecards or some other way that gives a key that unlocks stuff?
There are lots of people that don't own a credit card, that would buy game content if it was released in a way so you could purchase it at their local game shop.
I know several players that got every campaign, eotn and even additional accounts, but they can/will not buy online, but if they got it offered in their local game shop, they would buy it at once.
That is something Anet should think a bit about.
Mineria
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Originally Posted by Vl Vl D
Im just glad I got the bmp instead of the box....after all im sure Gail did say the bmp was a thank you to the people that brought Gwen in the GW online store or NC store instead via a retail outlet.I do remember people saying they would rather the box.
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Vinraith
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Originally Posted by Mineria
First I got to say that I have the BMP, and I enjoy its content.
But here is what I don't understand: Why is Anet so fixated on the online shop, and is not selling gamecards or some other way that gives a key that unlocks stuff? There are lots of people that don't own a credit card, that would buy game content if it was released in a way so you could purchase it at their local game shop. I know several players that got every campaign, eotn and even additional accounts, but they can/will not buy online, but if they got it offered in their local game shop, they would buy it at once. That is something Anet should think a bit about. |
Mineria
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
It's pretty simple: When you buy a game direct from Anet through the online store, they see considerably more money from that sale than they do from sales through brick and mortar stores (because in those instances they're paying for shelf space, distribution etc etc). Consequently, it's in their financial interest to incentivize online store purchasing. In short, we give them something extra, they give us something extra.
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So you see, it is not that simple at all.
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Mineria
Then why do the campaigns cost more in the online store then the boxed version at a game shop?
So you see, it is not that simple at all. |
And by that, retailers can price it higher or lower. The actual cost to the retailer is much lower, and they mark it up to make a profit.
Anet is selling at the full retail in the online store to maximize their profits.
Vl Vl D
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Originally Posted by Mineria
First I got to say that I have the BMP, and I enjoy its content.
But here is what I don't understand: Why is Anet so fixated on the online shop, and is not selling gamecards or some other way that gives a key that unlocks stuff? There are lots of people that don't own a credit card, that would buy game content if it was released in a way so you could purchase it at their local game shop. I know several players that got every campaign, eotn and even additional accounts, but they can/will not buy online, but if they got it offered in their local game shop, they would buy it at once. That is something Anet should think a bit about. |
http://vnboards.ign.com/Message.aspx...rt=10513 8518
The above link answers some of what you were thinking, but like you said they can/will not buy online. With this decision they made their mind up and in doing so did not qualify for a promo that ran as well as advertised for months be for Eotn was released.
As for wanting to know why Anet sells things online, just think of your local game store as the middle man and they need to put bread on the table too.
So Anet sells direct then they have more profit and therefore if you purchased Gwen via the online store you showed your surpport for Anet, thus recieving a thank you gift in the form of bmp.
Wish Swiftdeath
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
I've had people from Hong Kong buy stuff from me on ebay and pay with paypal. Pay pal offers a pre paid mastercard.
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I guess thats the reason why i didnt buy it anyway. Not like i can do anything about it now.
Mineria
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Originally Posted by Vl Vl D
As for wanting to know why Anet sells things online, just think of your local game store as the middle man and they need to put bread on the table too.
So Anet sells direct then they have more profit and therefore if you purchased Gwen via the online store you showed your surpport for Anet, thus recieving a thank you gift in the form of bmp. |
I took some character slots instead, since I prefer to have boxed version of the campaigns. CE if possible.
So please stop saying that it is a thank you for buying GW:EN from the online shop.
Thank you for posting the link to a post where Gaile made a reply pinning it out in details.
Edge Martinez
Well, I'm all for just offering the BMP in the online store, and being done with it. No more gab about it. Everyone can play.
Yes, I know there was literally MONTHS of forewarning, but some people are just special. As a society, we do pretty well in instituting our special needs people. Otherwise they'd be bouncing into walls, and walking in traffic and what have you. Same thing here... we need to help these people. Get them the BMP ASAP!
Yes, I know there was literally MONTHS of forewarning, but some people are just special. As a society, we do pretty well in instituting our special needs people. Otherwise they'd be bouncing into walls, and walking in traffic and what have you. Same thing here... we need to help these people. Get them the BMP ASAP!
Shadow Kurd
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Originally Posted by Maximumraver
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I live in The Netherlands too, and of all the people i know (enough) none of them have a credit card. |
Never heard/seen anyone pay with a Credit Card here
Sha Noran
Pop quiz!
1. People are whining about not having the BMP because:
A) People always whine about everything.
B) ANet didn't offer enough reasonable methods of acquisition.
C) The skins are awesome, easy to get, and free.
D) All of the above.
PROTIP: The answer is bold.
You should all be thanking ANet for customizing everything. Imagine the uproar if the new skins were able to be traded.
1. People are whining about not having the BMP because:
A) People always whine about everything.
B) ANet didn't offer enough reasonable methods of acquisition.
C) The skins are awesome, easy to get, and free.
D) All of the above.
PROTIP: The answer is bold.
You should all be thanking ANet for customizing everything. Imagine the uproar if the new skins were able to be traded.
Vl Vl D
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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
/confirmed
Never heard/seen anyone pay with a Credit Card here |
I remeber my Dutch mate in a panic about how he was going to get the bmp because the lack of a credit card.But I do rember another Dutch guildie saying you can buy $10-$100 cards from yamas(smoke) shops that act like credit cards.In the end I think he gave his account to this nice guildie who used her credit card to purchase it.